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jhu72 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:50 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:56 pm :lol: ...how many Migs, tanks & S-300's did that NATO support resolution guarantee ?

Let's re-invent NATO during the opening phase of the biggest war in Europe since WW II

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... o-support/
It calls on President Biden to:

“Adopt a new Strategic Concept for NATO that is clear about its support for shared democratic values and committed to enhancing NATO’s capacity to strengthen democratic institutions within NATO member, partner, and aspirant countries.”
“Use the voice and vote of the United States to establish a Center for Democratic Resilience within NATO headquarters.”
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...how about seeing if NATO can help Ukraine survive.
... how many excuses have you got for white nationalist Putin fanboys? --- I know, you have a thousand of them. :lol:
It's a gratuitous poison pill to inject our stupid partisan political debates into NATO, which already has enough challenges to maintaining unity.

Poland's doing more for Ukraine than any other EU member, so lets stick a finger in their leaders eye.
Hungary is a vital air & ground link to Ukraine, so let's throw shade on their leader.
It's a cheap partisan trick that does nothing to help NATO or Ukraine.
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old salt wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:01 am
jhu72 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:50 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:56 pm :lol: ...how many Migs, tanks & S-300's did that NATO support resolution guarantee ?

Let's re-invent NATO during the opening phase of the biggest war in Europe since WW II

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... o-support/
It calls on President Biden to:

“Adopt a new Strategic Concept for NATO that is clear about its support for shared democratic values and committed to enhancing NATO’s capacity to strengthen democratic institutions within NATO member, partner, and aspirant countries.”
“Use the voice and vote of the United States to establish a Center for Democratic Resilience within NATO headquarters.”
:roll:

...how about seeing if NATO can help Ukraine survive.
... how many excuses have you got for white nationalist Putin fanboys? --- I know, you have a thousand of them. :lol:
It's a gratuitous poison pill to inject our stupid partisan political debates into NATO, which already has enough challenges to maintaining unity.

Poland's doing more for Ukraine than any other EU member, so lets stick a finger in their leaders eye.
Hungary is a vital air & ground link to Ukraine, so let's throw shade on their leader.
It's a cheap partisan trick that does nothing to help NATO or Ukraine.
... like that is a first. I have no sympathy for Putin fanboys who are squeezed by a "cheap partisan trick". The vote cast no shade on either Poland or Hungary. The fanboys could have easily gone along with the vote, most Americans would have.
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:15 am
old salt wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:01 am
jhu72 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:50 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:56 pm :lol: ...how many Migs, tanks & S-300's did that NATO support resolution guarantee ?

Let's re-invent NATO during the opening phase of the biggest war in Europe since WW II

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... o-support/
It calls on President Biden to:

“Adopt a new Strategic Concept for NATO that is clear about its support for shared democratic values and committed to enhancing NATO’s capacity to strengthen democratic institutions within NATO member, partner, and aspirant countries.”
“Use the voice and vote of the United States to establish a Center for Democratic Resilience within NATO headquarters.”
:roll:

...how about seeing if NATO can help Ukraine survive.
... how many excuses have you got for white nationalist Putin fanboys? --- I know, you have a thousand of them. :lol:
It's a gratuitous poison pill to inject our stupid partisan political debates into NATO, which already has enough challenges to maintaining unity.

Poland's doing more for Ukraine than any other EU member, so lets stick a finger in their leaders eye.
Hungary is a vital air & ground link to Ukraine, so let's throw shade on their leader.
It's a cheap partisan trick that does nothing to help NATO or Ukraine.
... like that is a first. I have no sympathy for Putin fanboys who are squeezed by a "cheap partisan trick". The vote cast no shade on either Poland or Hungary. The fanboys could have easily gone along with the vote, most Americans would have.
Yeah, let's lecture NATO on Democratic Resilience. :lol: ...important stuff.

They always heed our advice.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/06/trump-n ... aders.html

Way to stay focused on the important stuff.
The news coming out of Ukraine is not good,
gotta generate a way to deflect it away from Biden.
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old salt wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:45 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:15 am
old salt wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:01 am
jhu72 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:50 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:56 pm :lol: ...how many Migs, tanks & S-300's did that NATO support resolution guarantee ?

Let's re-invent NATO during the opening phase of the biggest war in Europe since WW II

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... o-support/
It calls on President Biden to:

“Adopt a new Strategic Concept for NATO that is clear about its support for shared democratic values and committed to enhancing NATO’s capacity to strengthen democratic institutions within NATO member, partner, and aspirant countries.”
“Use the voice and vote of the United States to establish a Center for Democratic Resilience within NATO headquarters.”
:roll:

...how about seeing if NATO can help Ukraine survive.
... how many excuses have you got for white nationalist Putin fanboys? --- I know, you have a thousand of them. :lol:
It's a gratuitous poison pill to inject our stupid partisan political debates into NATO, which already has enough challenges to maintaining unity.

Poland's doing more for Ukraine than any other EU member, so lets stick a finger in their leaders eye.
Hungary is a vital air & ground link to Ukraine, so let's throw shade on their leader.
It's a cheap partisan trick that does nothing to help NATO or Ukraine.
... like that is a first. I have no sympathy for Putin fanboys who are squeezed by a "cheap partisan trick". The vote cast no shade on either Poland or Hungary. The fanboys could have easily gone along with the vote, most Americans would have.
Yeah, let's lecture NATO on Democratic Resilience. :lol: ...important stuff.

They always heed our advice.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/06/trump-n ... aders.html

Way to stay focused on the important stuff.
The news coming out of Ukraine is not good,
gotta generate a way to deflect it away from Biden.

It's a cheap partisan trick that does nothing to help or hurt NATO or Ukraine or Poland or Hungary.

It is purely for domestic consumption
... it sure has your partisanship spun up though :lol: :lol:
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6 Putin fanboys strike again, not supporting the concept of War Crime accountability in Ukraine.
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Helpful tactical summary @ 3/16, still playing out as predicted.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/n ... n-the-war/
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old salt wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:20 pm
CU88 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:46 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:51 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:43 pm
https://www.wsj.com/articles/putins-ukr ... _lead_pos8

Putin’s Ukraine Invasion Is About Energy and Natural Resources
The West can deny Russia access to markets while building up the trans-Atlantic oil and gas trade.

Much of the current analysis of Russia’s war on Ukraine accepts at face value Moscow’s stated premises for the invasion. Vladimir Putin claimed from the beginning that his special military action was a determined attempt to reunite the old Russo-Ukrainian territorial and ethnic communities under his rule. Some in the West have even bought into his gripe that years of North American Treaty Organization expansion threatened Russian territorial integrity.

The prevailing narrative now is that Mr. Putin has foolishly overreached: The Ukrainians fought harder than he expected and his forces have bogged down due to poor command structures and lack of basic operational controls. He has had to learn the hard way about information asymmetries because no one tells a dictator the whole truth. The West, according to the narrative, needs to provide him with a peace process: Ukraine guarantees it won’t try to join NATO and Moscow absorbs Donetsk and Luhansk—as well as what’s left of Mariupol—into Mother Russia.

This is dangerous thinking. Mr. Putin’s purposes are multifaceted, and he is adaptive. There is more than one way to dominate Ukraine. Under cover of the wider conflict, Mr. Putin is taking full control of Ukraine’s vast, extremely valuable energy assets and intends to integrate them into the Russian supply chain on which Europe now depends. China and India will eventually depend upon it too.

There are four reasons to think this war is, or will default to, an energy heist. The first is Russian national interest. Taking Ukraine’s energy would give Mr. Putin the second-largest natural-gas reserves in Europe, worth more than $1 trillion at today’s prices. It would give him oil and condensate worth as much as $400 billion, and most of Ukraine’s coal—the sixth-largest reserve base in the world. Additionally, he would consolidate an extraordinary strategic geopolitical advantage with ports on the Black Sea and Sea of Azov, putting Russia at the center of global energy supply to the vast European and Asian markets for the foreseeable future.

The second reason to think this war is a resource grab is Mr. Putin’s tactical focus. Russian troops are now concentrated in the parts of Ukraine that hold 90% of its energy resources. They have seized the Donbas and control Luhansk and Donetsk. They are embedded along the Black Sea coast and focusing extreme pressure on Mariupol. If the fighting stopped now, Mr. Putin would control all of Ukraine’s offshore oil, its critical ports on the Azov Sea, the Kerch Strait, 80% of the Black Sea coastline, and all critical energy-processing and shipping infrastructure.

The third reason is the treatment of Mariupol. If Mr. Putin’s core objective were the reunification of ethnic Russians, then pounding into dust the country’s largest urban center of pro-Russian Ukrainians would be an odd way to manage that reunification. If this is about control of Ukraine’s energy, however, that city is the essential land bridge to his Crimean assets and the critical port from which to ship resources from Donetsk and Luhansk.

Finally, he’s done this before. Mr. Putin’s annexation of Crimea in 2014 gave him Sevastopol and Ukraine’s exceptionally rich Black Sea assets—a windfall worth hundreds of billions of dollars. He passed these assets to Gazprom and declared an exclusive economic zone in the Black Sea, defended by the Russian navy.

Sadly, Mr. Putin learned from Crimea that the West protests, then forgets. Despite the imposition of sanctions, European Union imports of Russian energy, enhanced by the annexed assets, continued unabated. Europe is now paying Russia more than $100 billion a year, and is on track to import 90% of the energy it consumes by 2030.

Europe is so dependent on Russian gas partly because of climate considerations. Any serious commitment to reducing global emissions from coal requires natural gas. The U.S. has led the world in this regard, reducing emissions by more than 800 million tons while promoting economic growth by displacing thermal coal with gas to power the electrical grid. Coal burns at almost twice the carbon intensity of gas per unit of energy, so retrofitting European grids for gas significantly reduces emissions and provides baseload power that renewables can’t. But while the U.S. produced gas domestically, Europe off-shored its gas supply to Russia and banned domestic fracking and other energy production. The result was dependency.

Despotic regimes control most of the world’s energy via state companies. The democratic West relies on private companies operating in free markets, which have driven most of the innovation in cleaner fuels, carbon capture, nuclear and hydrogen. As NATO reorients itself, member states should pursue trade deals connecting the vast supply and technological innovations of the U.S. and Canada to Europe. The best way to beat this particular thief is to steal back his market.
So it’s not because The Ukraine is Russian?
Wait, I too thought that any Old Soviet could tell us that it was part of Russia for all of modern history & that ethnic Ukrainians were Russian during that time. They did not stand up for themselves before, so they get what is coming to them now.
Apparently the Russians believe that history, ...at least 83% of them do.
It only took 3 decades for the Ukrainians to discover their nationalism, defend themselves & not sell out to their corrupt oligarchs.
Now they are telling us that their deaths are our fault for not giving them more & better weapons sooner.
The EUros offered them a path to peace via Minsk but they refused to negotiate. War is the failure of diplomacy.
Where was their courage & nationalism in 2014 when the Russians rolled into Crimea & Donbas unopposed ?
They had 3 decades to qualify for EU & NATO membetrship, they blew it. The Baltics did it in 13 years.
Still think NATO expansion has nothing to do with this ? Putin warned us.
Old Soviet, was that 83% from Putin, seems low? Might you have the results for a reputable polling source like Quinnipiac?
Did not know that you were speaking with Ukrainian citizens and hearing who they blame for the current deaths and war. You are really impressive…
You probably don’t care but here is a clip of such a citizen has a buried son in her own backyard: https://twitter.com/JCTheResistance/sta ... 2617948161
Not a military source, but I trust what they, Chef José Andrés World Food Kitchen, are hearing and reporting (boots on the ground), from Ukrainian citizens who are showing up for food; not guns. https://twitter.com/chefjoseandres/stat ... 8255603716
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CU88 wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:36 pm Old Soviet, was that 83% from Putin, seems low? Might you have the results for a reputable polling source like Quinnipiac?
Did not know that you were speaking with Ukrainian citizens and hearing who they blame for the current deaths and war. You are really impressive…
You probably don’t care but here is a clip of such a citizen has a buried son in her own backyard: https://twitter.com/JCTheResistance/sta ... 2617948161
Not a military source, but I trust what they, Chef José Andrés World Food Kitchen, are hearing and reporting (boots on the ground), from Ukrainian citizens who are showing up for food; not guns. https://twitter.com/chefjoseandres/stat ... 8255603716
Levada Center -- credible enough to be cited by the WSJ, Wash Post & the major news networks. Even with disclaimers, it indicates solid, increased domestic support for Putin. Correlates with previous polls. Disregard if you can only handle happy news.
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia ... fTxORQOE0v
Putin’s Approval Rating Jumps After Invasion, Poll Shows

President Vladimir Putin’s approval rating in Russia has soared since he launched his invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24—to 83% from 71% last month—according to independent Russian pollster Levada Center.

Surveys by Levada Center and state-backed pollsters indicate that around two-thirds of Russians back Mr. Putin’s war, which the Kremlin refers to as a special military operation. Experts have cautioned against taking current Russian polls on face value, given that Russian authorities have pursued a crackdown against dissent, including a media blackout of any reports contrary to the Kremlin’s narrative about Russia’s actions in Ukraine.

Mr. Putin’s approval rating had for the past few years hovered in the 60s, according to Levada, which has tracked the longtime Russian leader’s rating since he became prime minister in 1999.

His approval rating last jumped so sharply after Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine and fomented a rebellion in the country’s industrial east in 2014. At the time, Mr. Putin's approval rating rose to 83% from 69%.

Levada, which was designated a foreign agent by Russian authorities, also found that the percentage of Russians who believe the country is moving in the right direction increased since the war began: 69% of Russians now believe Russia is headed in the right direction, compared with 52% in February and 50% in January, the poll showed.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... -invasion/
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old salt wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:12 pm
CU88 wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:36 pm Old Soviet, was that 83% from Putin, seems low? Might you have the results for a reputable polling source like Quinnipiac?
Did not know that you were speaking with Ukrainian citizens and hearing who they blame for the current deaths and war. You are really impressive…
You probably don’t care but here is a clip of such a citizen has a buried son in her own backyard: https://twitter.com/JCTheResistance/sta ... 2617948161
Not a military source, but I trust what they, Chef José Andrés World Food Kitchen, are hearing and reporting (boots on the ground), from Ukrainian citizens who are showing up for food; not guns. https://twitter.com/chefjoseandres/stat ... 8255603716
Levada Center -- credible enough to be cited by the WSJ, Wash Post & the major news networks. Even with disclaimers, it indicates solid, increased domestic support for Putin. Correlates with previous polls. Disregard if you can only handle happy news.
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia ... fTxORQOE0v
Putin’s Approval Rating Jumps After Invasion, Poll Shows

President Vladimir Putin’s approval rating in Russia has soared since he launched his invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24—to 83% from 71% last month—according to independent Russian pollster Levada Center.

Surveys by Levada Center and state-backed pollsters indicate that around two-thirds of Russians back Mr. Putin’s war, which the Kremlin refers to as a special military operation. Experts have cautioned against taking current Russian polls on face value, given that Russian authorities have pursued a crackdown against dissent, including a media blackout of any reports contrary to the Kremlin’s narrative about Russia’s actions in Ukraine.

Mr. Putin’s approval rating had for the past few years hovered in the 60s, according to Levada, which has tracked the longtime Russian leader’s rating since he became prime minister in 1999.

His approval rating last jumped so sharply after Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine and fomented a rebellion in the country’s industrial east in 2014. At the time, Mr. Putin's approval rating rose to 83% from 69%.

Levada, which was designated a foreign agent by Russian authorities, also found that the percentage of Russians who believe the country is moving in the right direction increased since the war began: 69% of Russians now believe Russia is headed in the right direction, compared with 52% in February and 50% in January, the poll showed.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... -invasion/
Old Soviet, you said that 83% of Russian believed that Ukraine was Russian, but you are now quoting a poll that is showing Putins approval ratings at 83%.
"Apparently the Russians believe that history, ...at least 83% of them do."
is NOT the same as
"Putin’s approval rating in Russia has soared since he launched his invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24—to 83%"
Disregard if you can only handle Putin news
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CU88 wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:41 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:12 pm
CU88 wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:36 pm Old Soviet, was that 83% from Putin, seems low? Might you have the results for a reputable polling source like Quinnipiac?
Did not know that you were speaking with Ukrainian citizens and hearing who they blame for the current deaths and war. You are really impressive…
You probably don’t care but here is a clip of such a citizen has a buried son in her own backyard: https://twitter.com/JCTheResistance/sta ... 2617948161
Not a military source, but I trust what they, Chef José Andrés World Food Kitchen, are hearing and reporting (boots on the ground), from Ukrainian citizens who are showing up for food; not guns. https://twitter.com/chefjoseandres/stat ... 8255603716
Levada Center -- credible enough to be cited by the WSJ, Wash Post & the major news networks. Even with disclaimers, it indicates solid, increased domestic support for Putin. Correlates with previous polls. Disregard if you can only handle happy news.
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia ... fTxORQOE0v
Putin’s Approval Rating Jumps After Invasion, Poll Shows

President Vladimir Putin’s approval rating in Russia has soared since he launched his invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24—to 83% from 71% last month—according to independent Russian pollster Levada Center.

Surveys by Levada Center and state-backed pollsters indicate that around two-thirds of Russians back Mr. Putin’s war, which the Kremlin refers to as a special military operation. Experts have cautioned against taking current Russian polls on face value, given that Russian authorities have pursued a crackdown against dissent, including a media blackout of any reports contrary to the Kremlin’s narrative about Russia’s actions in Ukraine.

Mr. Putin’s approval rating had for the past few years hovered in the 60s, according to Levada, which has tracked the longtime Russian leader’s rating since he became prime minister in 1999.

His approval rating last jumped so sharply after Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine and fomented a rebellion in the country’s industrial east in 2014. At the time, Mr. Putin's approval rating rose to 83% from 69%.

Levada, which was designated a foreign agent by Russian authorities, also found that the percentage of Russians who believe the country is moving in the right direction increased since the war began: 69% of Russians now believe Russia is headed in the right direction, compared with 52% in February and 50% in January, the poll showed.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... -invasion/
Old Soviet, you said that 83% of Russian believed that Ukraine was Russian, but you are now quoting a poll that is showing Putins approval ratings at 83%.
"Apparently the Russians believe that history, ...at least 83% of them do."
is NOT the same as
"Putin’s approval rating in Russia has soared since he launched his invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24—to 83%"
Disregard if you can only handle Putin news
Putin's version of history is what he is using to justify the war to the Russian people.
The Russian Orthodox Church is aiding & supporting him in that effort.
Most Russian people believe the govt propaganda. Many have access to nothing else.

https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/0 ... a-holy-war
Russia’s Orthodox Church paints the conflict in Ukraine as a holy war
In an unholy alliance, it is helping Vladimir Putin to justify his war at home

In Russia, church and military go hand in hand. Patriarch Kirill, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, implicitly supports Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. He spouts Kremlin propaganda, claiming that Russia is not the aggressor and that genocide is being perpetrated by Ukrainians against Russian speakers in the Donbas. Nor is his endorsement of this war unique. During his tenure, Russian priests have blessed bombs destined for Syria and Crimea.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 022-03-14/
Ukraine is of visceral significance to the Russian Orthodox Church because it is seen as the cradle of the Rus' civilisation, a medieval entity where in the 10th century Byzantine Orthodox missionaries converted the pagan Prince Volodymyr.

After the 1917 Russian revolution, Soviet leaders began liquidating the Russian Orthodox Church. Stalin revived it after Hitler's invasion of Russia in World War Two to rally society.

"This same idea is being revived now by Putin," said Olenka Pevny, professor of Slavonic and Ukrainian Studies at the University of Cambridge in the UK and an American of Ukrainian origin.

"As the Russian position in the world and Russian identity began faltering, Putin once again enlisted the Church to help him gather the Russian people under his control and attempted to tie the peoples of independent nations such as Ukraine to Russia by pushing the notion of a unified Russia Orthodox Church so as to deny any religious diversity," she told Reuters in a telephone interview.
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https://www.economist.com/the-economist ... in-ukraine

Why are so many Russian generals dying in Ukraine?
The reported toll is akin to the toughest days of the second world war

THE WAR was nearly over, Yakov Rezantsev assured his troops on day four of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. That was a month ago. On March 25th the lieutenant-general, commander of Russia’s 49th Combined Arms Army, was reportedly dead, killed in a strike near the city of Kherson. Ukrainian officials say he was the seventh Russian general to die in action in Ukraine; Western ones agree. Russia has not confirmed this, and the tally has not been independently verified. But it is clear that the country’s top brass are suffering unusual attrition. Why?

General officers—in most armies, those who rank higher than colonel or brigadier—typically command big formations, like divisions and corps. Those formations need to be run from large headquarters, which tend to remain out of artillery and rocket range and thus a greater distance from the frontlines. That usually puts generals in a safer position.

America lost nine generals in combat in Vietnam, though that was over 20 years rather than a few weeks, and most died when their helicopters were shot down. In the past two decades of war in Afghanistan and Iraq, just one American general died—and he was shot by an Afghan soldier. Even during its bloody occupation of Afghanistan in 1979-89, the Soviet Union is thought to have lost no more than six generals in the first six months of war.

You have to go back 80 years to find a remotely comparable attrition of senior officers. During the second world war around 235 Soviet generals were killed in combat, according to “Fallen Soviet Generals”, a book by Aleksander Maslov (over 200 more died in other ways). Even then, during the worst period—from June 1941, when Germany invaded the Soviet Union, to November 1942, when the Red Army encircled the Wehrmacht at Stalingrad—an average of just under six generals were killed per month, about the same as the current toll.

One reason for the high death rate today is that Russia has botched many of its advances, particularly in northern Ukraine. Many Russian units have shown themselves incapable of modern combined-arms warfare, as tanks have ventured forward without artillery support. Morale has been low, logistics poor and casualties high. And that seems to have forced the generals to get their boots muddy. In most professional armies, a cadre of long-serving, senior enlisted personnel known as non-commissioned officers (NCOs) supervise troops and often take over leadership of smaller units in wartime. NCOs are the “backbone of NATO”, says one of the alliance’s officers. Russia’s army lacks a comparable layer of leadership. That may have forced more senior officers to go forward, to see the situation for themselves and stamp their authority on their subordinate commanders.

That is not inherently bad—a good commander needs to get a feel for the front. The bigger problem may be that these adventurous generals have sloppy security. Russian forces have modern Azart encrypted radios, but these seem to be too few in number—possibly because of corruption—according to a report by the Royal United Services Institute, a British think-tank. So Russian soldiers have been resorting to unencrypted radio and ordinary mobile phones.

Not only can these communications be intercepted, but their source can also be located by electronic-warfare or cyber means. Russia used that technique to good effect against Ukrainian forces in Donbas after 2014; now Ukraine is turning it on Russians, using snipers to pick off senior officers or artillery to bombard their position.

Some insiders suggest that Western intelligence agencies and armed forces may be helping Ukraine to locate Russian troops (although Western officials refuse to be drawn on the subject). Former American intelligence officials told the Yahoo News website that the CIA had spent years training Ukrainian paramilitaries, including snipers: “I think we’re seeing a big impact from snipers…the training really paid off.”

The loss of so many generals in this way is embarrassing to the Russian army, epitomising its tactical failures in the first month of war. Several commanders have been dismissed. Yet the deaths of heavily bemedalled officers may not be the worst of it.

On March 29th Ukraine claimed to have killed Colonel Denis Kurilo, the commander of the 200th Separate Motorised Rifle Brigade, outside the eastern city of Kharkiv. Such officers are even more important cogs in Russia’s military machine, because they know the details of their combat units. “I think the heavy losses among Russian battalion, regiment and brigade commanders might be an even bigger issue than the losses of generals,” notes Rob Lee of King’s College London. “It is really difficult to replace these losses.”
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Interesting that Russia was ousted from UN Council on Human Rights for its alleged war violations. But you wonder ~ where the f___k was the UN when the USA committed its atrocities and imposed such inhuman depredations on Afghanistan and Iraq? Double standards, much???
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I've heard of many ex-special warfare personal from all many countries, heading there to support UK.
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youthathletics wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:10 am
I've heard of many ex-special warfare personal from all many countries, heading there to support UK.
You would think if the Russians looked back into their own history the siege of Stalingrad would have taught them something. Those Soviet snipers decimated the Nazi attackers by hiding in the rubble of the destroyed city. The understood the importance of picking off Nazi officers. Oddly enough one of the most deadly Soviet snipers was a woman.

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Rooskie a-holes targeted a train station platform in Eastern Ukraine filled with evacuees killing 50 and wounding over 100 including many children.

The United States on Friday sent a U.S. Patriot missile system to Slovakia to make way for that government to deliver an older, S-300 air defense system to Ukraine to defend against attacks by Russian missiles and aircraft.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:30 am
I am surprised Ukraine hasn’t surrendered.
Not enough death & destruction yet.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 022-04-07/

This will take decades to repair, if ever.

https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2022/0 ... ia/364130/
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Re: All Things Russia & Ukraine

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old salt wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:30 am
I am surprised Ukraine hasn’t surrendered.
Not enough death & destruction yet.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 022-04-07/

This will take decades to repair, if ever.

https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2022/0 ... ia/364130/
Freedom isn’t free.
“I wish you would!”
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Re: All Things Russia & Ukraine

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:36 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:30 am
I am surprised Ukraine hasn’t surrendered.
Not enough death & destruction yet.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 022-04-07/

This will take decades to repair, if ever.

https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2022/0 ... ia/364130/
Freedom isn’t free.
Neither is this latest, inevitable Slavic tribal war in eastern Europe.
While US taxpayers are sending billion$ in aid for Ukraine to fight this war & continue the carnage,
EU natural gas receipts are funding the Russian war crimes machine. A triumph of diplomatic foresight.
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