Conservative Ideology 2024: NOTHING BUT LIES AND FEARMONGERING

[Peter Brown]

Desantis inherited special tax and oversight breaks given to Disney. Disney enjoys a unique preferential status, no thanks to Ron.

All Ron is doing is taking them back and putting Disney on the same field we all must play. If you want to thumb your nose at the fair minded citizens of Florida, well, thems the breaks, Walt!! Time to fight fair!

I thought you embraced fair play? What happened to you?

Right. And not a single other corporation in the entire State gets a special tax break just for moving into the State.

Here ya go, Pete. Maybe spend more time researching what your Governor does.....

https://www.flgov.com/financial-incenti ... 20benefits.

You're full of it, as usual.


You're pretending to be too stupid to understand that you don't get to punish businesses simply because they don't agree with your policies. If they did that? You still not so stupid that you don't understand that every Dem-run State could simply go after businesses that support Republicans.

Then what? What's your plan when our country's businesses are being torn apart over little D's and R's?

As usual, you don't think about your fake values. You just spew them out, no matter how many times you contradict yourself.

Are you against a massive company like Disney having to pay its fair share? Intriguing.

Not really the issue tbh…all of us are offended that Disney apparently wants sex to be a subject taught in kindergarten. Wow.

Also, all we’re asking, a fan, is for teachers to *not* discuss sex with kids between the ages of 3 and 8….is this simply too much to ask of your team? I find this positively bizarre, putting it as charitably as I’m able to muster.

I’ve never felt the impulse to discuss sex with really anyone outside my wife…if I demand to talk sex with kids that age, I’m hoping the police lock me up. Democrats, so far as I can tell, not only want teachers to discuss sex with 3-8 year old KIDS, they practically demand it.

Good luck on November 8!!!

[a fan]

Are you against a massive company like Disney having to pay its fair share? Intriguing.

When did you stop beating your wife, Pete? It's not my fault that you never bothered with a logic class at socialist Florida, Pete. It's hard for you to keep up at the grown up table, we understand.

Also, all we’re asking, a fan, is for teachers to *not* discuss sex with kids between the ages of 3 and 8….is this simply too much to ask of your team? I find this positively bizarre, putting it as charitably as I’m able to muster.

Yeah, Pete...you should probably read the bill. You can't teach them about gender identity, my man.

And what you and your fellow nutjobs don't seem to get is....the door swings both ways.

To wit: “classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur.”

How the F do you think teachers are going to make it all the way to 6th grade without mentioning family? Or without telling them which bathroom to use? Picture trying to find a K-6 book that makes no mention of the words "boy" or "girl". Have fun with that, Pete.

Pete, you think that the lawsuits will fly when a teacher mentions gay people. You don't seem to get that the same applies to mentioning a heterosexual family. A good LGBTQ lawyer is going to keep every district in FLA in court. The law is impractical, and ridiculous.

All because grown adults like you (well, you're not an adult yet, but....) can't handle the idea that not all families are the same.

Oh no! My kid has to think, and learn that not everyone is the same!! Someone call the government and FORCE everyone to be the same, Pete!

[Peter Brown]

Are you against a massive company like Disney having to pay its fair share? Intriguing.

When did you stop beating your wife, Pete? It's not my fault that you never bothered with a logic class at socialist Florida, Pete. It's hard for you to keep up at the grown up table, we understand.

Also, all we’re asking, a fan, is for teachers to *not* discuss sex with kids between the ages of 3 and 8….is this simply too much to ask of your team? I find this positively bizarre, putting it as charitably as I’m able to muster.

Yeah, Pete...you should probably read the bill. You can't teach them about gender identity, my man.

And what you and your fellow nutjobs don't seem to get is....the door swings both ways.

To wit: “classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur.”

How the F do you think teachers are going to make it all the way to 6th grade without mentioning family? Or without telling them which bathroom to use? Picture trying to find a K-6 book that makes no mention of the words "boy" or "girl". Have fun with that, Pete.

Pete, you think that the lawsuits will fly when a teacher mentions gay people. You don't seem to get that the same applies to mentioning a heterosexual family. A good LGBTQ lawyer is going to keep every district in FLA in court. The law is impractical, and ridiculous.

All because grown adults like you (well, you're not an adult yet, but....) can't handle the idea that not all families are the same.

Oh no! My kid has to think, and learn that not everyone is the same!! Someone call the government and FORCE everyone to be the same, Pete!

From your post above, it appears as if you would have no objection to a teacher discussing really anything with kids 3-8. That to me is disqualifying if you want to be treated seriously in this discussion.

[a fan]

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From your post above, it appears as if you would have no objection to a teacher discussing really anything with kids 3-8. That to me is disqualifying if you want to be treated seriously in this discussion.

Yep. That's me. The crazy guy who has no problem whatsoever if my daughter's teacher uses the words "boy", "girl" and "family" in front of her.

I LOVE that you haven't bothered to read the bill. Classic Pete.

[Farfromgeneva]

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From your post above, it appears as if you would have no objection to a teacher discussing really anything with kids 3-8. That to me is disqualifying if you want to be treated seriously in this discussion.

Yep. That's me. The crazy guy who has no problem whatsoever if my daughter's teacher uses the words "boy", "girl" and "family" in front of her.

I LOVE that you haven't bothered to read the bill. Classic Pete.

Id say the guy without kids is disqualified from being part of this discussion.

[a fan]

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From your post above, it appears as if you would have no objection to a teacher discussing really anything with kids 3-8. That to me is disqualifying if you want to be treated seriously in this discussion.

Yep. That's me. The crazy guy who has no problem whatsoever if my daughter's teacher uses the words "boy", "girl" and "family" in front of her.

I LOVE that you haven't bothered to read the bill. Classic Pete.

Id say the guy without kids is disqualified from being part of this discussion.

I find it hilarious that we have American parents in 2022 that are so stupid that they think everyone outside their home is going to have the EXACT same rules, morals, and ethics that their household does. Oh no! A teacher that thinks differently about the world than the parent does?! Clutch your pearls! We can't have THAT!!

The sad part is that if you ask a real conservative, they BRAG about how their parents pushed them out into the world to learn and fend for themselves when they were kids. "Go outside and play, and come back when it's dark"....that was certainly MY childhood. Why the F do you think your parents did that? So you could learn, problem solve, and figure out conflicts for yourselves...without your parents there to solve any problems for you.

[Farfromgeneva]

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From your post above, it appears as if you would have no objection to a teacher discussing really anything with kids 3-8. That to me is disqualifying if you want to be treated seriously in this discussion.

Yep. That's me. The crazy guy who has no problem whatsoever if my daughter's teacher uses the words "boy", "girl" and "family" in front of her.

I LOVE that you haven't bothered to read the bill. Classic Pete.

Id say the guy without kids is disqualified from being part of this discussion.

I find it hilarious that we have American parents in 2022 that are so stupid that they think everyone outside their home is going to have the EXACT same rules, morals, and ethics that their household does. Oh no! A teacher that thinks differently about the world than the parent does?! Clutch your pearls! We can't have THAT!!

The sad part is that if you ask a real conservative, they BRAG about how their parents pushed them out into the world to learn and fend for themselves when they were kids. "Go outside and play, and come back when it's dark"....that was certainly MY childhood. Why the F do you think your parents did that? So you could learn, problem solve, and figure out conflicts for yourselves...without your parents there to solve any problems for you.

I basically assume everyone else’s kids are better mannered, disciplined and more assertive/inquisitive/experimental. Effectively that I’m failing them and we will see how the dice land when they’re adults. So I’m less concerned about school than where I’m vastly deficient from where I need to be as a parent and how to close that gap.

My parents wanted the break and presumably not wanting me around their terrifying non stop fighting (physical and verbal 24/7 to each other) as I know they love me unconditionally but we’re just deeply flawed human beings. I managed to skate by academically and athletically through HS and into college despite not having any discipline, being horrendously reckless and utilized up between 5-7 of a cats 9 lives before I was 21 so I certainly didn’t make their lives easier but that’s sorta on them too for the environment. At least until I was into my mid teens.

[Peter Brown]

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From your post above, it appears as if you would have no objection to a teacher discussing really anything with kids 3-8. That to me is disqualifying if you want to be treated seriously in this discussion.

Yep. That's me. The crazy guy who has no problem whatsoever if my daughter's teacher uses the words "boy", "girl" and "family" in front of her.

I LOVE that you haven't bothered to read the bill. Classic Pete.

I haven’t?

Are you aware that over 50% of DEMOCRATS support the bill WHEN THEY READ THE BILL?

a poll conducted by Public Opinion Strategies indicates that these woke institutions are wholly out of step with the concerns of normal Americans. When registered voters were shown the actual language of the bill, which prohibits age or developmentally inappropriate sexual education in pre-K through third grade, they supported it by more than a two-to-one margin.

Overall, 61 percent of voters supported the text of the bill. Just 26 percent were opposed.

Among parents, support was even higher: 67 percent. Shockingly, support for the bill’s text even cut across party lines, with 55 percent of Democrats supporting it versus 29 percent opposing.

And 67 percent of voters also said that it is inappropriate to discuss the concept of “gender identity” with children in kindergarten through third grade, including a plurality of Democrats.

Among parents, support was even higher: 67 percent. Shockingly, support for the bill’s text even cut across party lines, with 55 percent of Democrats supporting it versus 29 percent opposing.

And 67 percent of voters also said that it is inappropriate to discuss the concept of “gender identity” with children in kindergarten through third grade, including a plurality of Democrats.

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/poll-a ... al-rights/

So Florida parents including a plurality of Democrats, when they read the bill, support the bill, but you’re here to tell them they’re wrong? Gotcha.

[Peter Brown]

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From your post above, it appears as if you would have no objection to a teacher discussing really anything with kids 3-8. That to me is disqualifying if you want to be treated seriously in this discussion.

Yep. That's me. The crazy guy who has no problem whatsoever if my daughter's teacher uses the words "boy", "girl" and "family" in front of her.

I LOVE that you haven't bothered to read the bill. Classic Pete.

Id say the guy without kids is disqualified from being part of this discussion.

My personal belief is any human with the most basic of values, with children or not, hopefully isn’t in favor of teachers discussing sex and gender theory to 3-8 year old children.

[Farfromgeneva]

Doesnt matter what a non parents belief is when it comes to elementary school education. Not one but unless that person is underwriting the entire experiment for every child impacted for their entire lives. Otherwise it’s of no value/

[CU88]

Madison Cawthorn: There are Republican cocaine orgies in Congress

Sarah Palin: I’d like to announce that I’m running for Congress

[CU88]

Republicans contend that a 12 year old is too young to talk about sexual orientation and gender identity, but not too young to be forced to give birth from a pregnancy as a result of rape.

Do I have that about right?

[Peter Brown]

Republicans contend that a 12 year old is too young to talk about sexual orientation and gender identity, but not too young to be forced to give birth from a pregnancy as a result of rape.

Do I have that about right?

No, you don’t. Actually you have many things incorrect.

First, the issue is Democrats demanding to bizarrely talk sex and gender identity with “3-8 year olds”, not 12 year olds, though I’d argue teachers should teach actual subjects and never discuss sex ever with students. Revolutionary, I know…thinking this is the role of parents.

Second, I’m a Republican and support a woman’s right to an abortion to 16 weeks, including your theoretical example of rape. Most Republicans are like me.

Any further questions?

[MDlaxfan76]

Which books are going to be banned now?

Any that mention boys, girls, moms, dads...or just those which mention two mommies or two daddies or...

And at what age can any mention of sexual attraction be mentioned...after high school perhaps?

[cradleandshoot]

Which books are going to be banned now?

Any that mention boys, girls, moms, dads...or just those which mention two mommies or two daddies or...

And at what age can any mention of sexual attraction be mentioned...after high school perhaps?

Which books are going to be banned now?

For starters... Dr Suess, anything by Mark Twain, especially Tom Sawyer, to kill a mockingbird for use of racist terminology common for that time.

[MDlaxfan76]

Which books are going to be banned now?

Any that mention boys, girls, moms, dads...or just those which mention two mommies or two daddies or...

And at what age can any mention of sexual attraction be mentioned...after high school perhaps?

Which books are going to be banned now?

For starters... Dr Suess, anything by Mark Twain, especially Tom Sawyer, to kill a mockingbird for use of racist terminology common for that time.

https://www.houstoniamag.com/arts-and-c ... books-week
https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/ ... ls/2022/03

but what this law requires is zero 'sexual instruction', meaning. apparently, gender instruction because 'sex ed' isn't taught at all pre 6th grade...so, any book that includes any mention of gender roles like mommies and daddies?

[MDlaxfan76]

Republicans contend that a 12 year old is too young to talk about sexual orientation and gender identity, but not too young to be forced to give birth from a pregnancy as a result of rape.

Do I have that about right?

No, you don’t. Actually you have many things incorrect.

First, the issue is Democrats demanding to bizarrely talk sex and gender identity with “3-8 year olds”, not 12 year olds, though I’d argue teachers should teach actual subjects and never discuss sex ever with students. Revolutionary, I know…thinking this is the role of parents.

Second, I’m a Republican and support a woman’s right to an abortion to 16 weeks, including your theoretical example of rape. Most Republicans are like me.

Any further questions?

But not after 16 weeks if she's too afraid to tell anyone that daddy raped her until then.

[cradleandshoot]

Which books are going to be banned now?

Any that mention boys, girls, moms, dads...or just those which mention two mommies or two daddies or...

And at what age can any mention of sexual attraction be mentioned...after high school perhaps?

Which books are going to be banned now?

For starters... Dr Suess, anything by Mark Twain, especially Tom Sawyer, to kill a mockingbird for use of racist terminology common for that time.

https://www.houstoniamag.com/arts-and-c ... books-week
https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/ ... ls/2022/03

but what this law requires is zero 'sexual instruction', meaning. apparently, gender instruction because 'sex ed' isn't taught at all pre 6th grade...so, any book that includes any mention of gender roles like mommies and daddies?

I suppose concentrating on mundane things like reading, writing and math and maybe history and stuff like that. I don't know if it is the business of any school to enlighten children about gender roles. I'm not against it being discussed in a classroom if a student asks. I do think the teacher has to be careful about how they structure the discussion.

[Peter Brown]

Which books are going to be banned now?

Any that mention boys, girls, moms, dads...or just those which mention two mommies or two daddies or...

And at what age can any mention of sexual attraction be mentioned...after high school perhaps?

Which books are going to be banned now?

For starters... Dr Suess, anything by Mark Twain, especially Tom Sawyer, to kill a mockingbird for use of racist terminology common for that time.

https://www.houstoniamag.com/arts-and-c ... books-week
https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/ ... ls/2022/03

but what this law requires is zero 'sexual instruction', meaning. apparently, gender instruction because 'sex ed' isn't taught at all pre 6th grade...so, any book that includes any mention of gender roles like mommies and daddies?

I suppose concentrating on mundane things like reading, writing and math and maybe history and stuff like that. I don't know if it is the business of any school to enlighten children about gender roles. I'm not against it being discussed in a classroom if a student asks. I do think the teacher has to be careful about how they structure the discussion.

Sadly, the Marxist troops have infiltrated young kids teaching ranks. If you have Twitter, follow “Libs of Tik Tok”, an account run by a woman which details truly insane leftist lunatics teaching really young kids some scary indoctrination bs. Very few Fanlax FLP object to this leftist youth teaching lunacy if made aware of it (for the most part. The Fanlax FLP are completely unaware of just how insane their stormtroopers are) which should make any American even more concerned about how pervasive the frontline Marxists truly are.

[MDlaxfan76]

Which books are going to be banned now?

Any that mention boys, girls, moms, dads...or just those which mention two mommies or two daddies or...

And at what age can any mention of sexual attraction be mentioned...after high school perhaps?

Which books are going to be banned now?

For starters... Dr Suess, anything by Mark Twain, especially Tom Sawyer, to kill a mockingbird for use of racist terminology common for that time.

https://www.houstoniamag.com/arts-and-c ... books-week
https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/ ... ls/2022/03

but what this law requires is zero 'sexual instruction', meaning. apparently, gender instruction because 'sex ed' isn't taught at all pre 6th grade...so, any book that includes any mention of gender roles like mommies and daddies?

I suppose concentrating on mundane things like reading, writing and math and maybe history and stuff like that. I don't know if it is the business of any school to enlighten children about gender roles. I'm not against it being discussed in a classroom if a student asks. I do think the teacher has to be careful about how they structure the discussion.

ANY book that depicts a family does that.
Usually those "gender roles" are one male (daddy), one female(mommy), kids...that's how schools"enlighten children about gender roles"...and some folks want that to be the ONLY way.

I don't think anyone is asking teachers to not be careful...the question is whether they should be "careful" to be sure that those with families that are not as commonly represented are acknowledged as no big deal as well...or they should be "careful" to never do so...

To be clear, I'm not (nor do I think anyone else on here) are suggesting that these issues should receive heavy or detailed discussion of sexual intercourse or such at young ages...but the question is whether the STATE should be defining exactly what is said or not said in a classroom or, alternatively, that such should be handled by the educators.