Loyolalaxgrad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:16 am
GreyingHound wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:03 pm
Laxmaninamillion wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:39 pm
GreyingHound wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:55 pm
Loyolalax wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:45 pm
GreyingHound wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:44 pm
Laxmaninamillion wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:56 am
Just shocked at this season. One turnover from a final four last year and bringing back 9 of 11 starters and a pre season #6 or 7 ranking to this??? Just boggles my mind. What is so depressing is the young guys (Higgins, James and Kamish) are producing like expected or better. These three will, along with Poitras, be the backbone of the team the next year or two. Just can’t figure out what has happened to our defense. Way too many easy step down shots. Way too many easy goals. The fact is that they all were better last year. Olmsted and Lindley were better last year also. Just not sure where they go from here. Every game except MD they were winning early and then give up a ton of goals in second half. Even in their wins they looked bad in second half. Does playing only 7 guys on offense the whole game cause them
To be tired? Something needs to be done to salvage season. Maybe it’s time for some of the young recruits to see some time to see if they’ve got what it takes
I think you need to take another look at last season. There is nothing mind boggling going on whatsoever. Last year, we lost to UVA, Lehigh, Towson Army, and Navy, with wins over Richmond, Utah, Lafayette, and Bucknell. How can you say this year is so much different? What happened last year after a rough start is that we found a way to win close games. It's not fair to remember that we were one possession away from the final four, but not remember that we started the season 5-5 against a weaker schedule than this year's.
No comparison when it comes to season. There were no Ivies last year. No patriot league championship. No play offs.
What we are seeing is no leadership by our 5 th yrs. And the same mistakes every game
The comparison was Loyola last season to Loyola this season. Ivies have nothing to do with it.
My point is what we're seeing from Loyola at this point in the season is very similar to what we saw from Loyola at this point last season, so I don't understand why people are surprised.
I’m surprised because last years team had young guys playing more minutes than this year. This year’s team is all veterans. ALL VETERANS. Last year Poitras and Higgins were freshmen. Kamish was hurt. James was hurt. Yet they were one GB from final four. Other than Wyers being a bit banged up we’ve had zero games lost to starters. Zero. Logically this team should be better than last years team. They are not.
I could not disagree more. Three points:
- This is not the same team as last year. Matt Higgins was by far our best SSDM and Peter Swindell was our best outside shooter. We lost both to graduation. They were difference makers.
- We are playing a more difficult schedule this year. We replaced UVA, Richmond, and Utah with UMD, Rutgers, and Hopkins, and also added Duke. Take a look at what UMD did to UVA last week, and today Rutgers destroyed #8 Ohio State 18-7.
- Even if we had the same roster and played the same schedule, there are so many elements that factor into wins/losses and the story line of a season that it's not reasonable to expect the same results. We like to talk about how we were one GB away from the final four last year, but what about the fact that we were 1 goal away from losing to Army in the PL semis, or one Shafer save away from losing to Denver in the NCAA first round? If a couple small things had played out slightly differently last year, we could have fallen far short of the NCAA quarterfinals. The same applies to this season. A few more saves here and there, or better shot placement in a few cases, and we could be sitting at 6-2. The fact is: this year's results just aren't that different from last year's.
Now that we're celebrating the 10-year anniversary of our 2012 National Championship, I look back at how many things had to go exactly right for that team to win it all. We played some close games, including OT. A few slightly different results - a save here or a GB there, and the outcome could have been different. The next year, in 2013, we had nearly the exact same team, minus Lusby, Layne, and Grimm, and the outcome was quite different. A lot of things have to conspire to enable success. The players aren't robots, so the results aren't the same every time they take the field.
I am recent Loyola grad that has played for Coach Toomey. I know some of the players and are still in contact with them. I have read these comments, while some are true, there are alot of misconceptions. And I can tell you there are some issues with the team and how the season is going. I know that some will say I am airing dirty laundry, but what is being said is mostly speculation with no fact basis,
Offense. We are a terrible shooting team. We have players that have played for 5 years and are not showing that experience and leadership. Olmstead leads the team with turnovers, Our team shooting percentage is 26%, 1-11 against Army for Olmstead. Lindley has struggled also. Others that are struggling, Poitras 26%, Lindsay 12%, Wigley 9%, these are our starters. Our offense needs initiators and creators from the Middies. I would say Kamish and Evans are the only ones that I have seen that can. I would add in Seay and Bateman, but for some reason, they have been benched. Lindsay and Binney seem to get all the talk, but they have not done much in 8 games. Binney has a great step down, but that is about it. We need to run a motion offense to get players open. Second half of Army, we dodged , while 5 guys watched, there were no off ball movement.
Defense. Agree, Wyers is hobbled. But he is still our best defender. It would be great to rest him, but who do you put in? James is injured, Is it VanderHueval, he has had very limited play time. Rezanka and Mcnulty are beasts and are playing extremely well. Sally, still making fundamental errors that are leading to goals, against Army was beat to the middle multiple times that led to goals. Need to play your best in big time games. Sherwood and Mcgillicuddy are a liability. The funniest line was the Mcgillicuddy is getting better, so what they are saying is that he is not giving up as many goals as he did in the beginning, and that is considered an improvement. SSDM is the toughest position on the field, but you cannot give up easy goals, dont let them get to the middle and that is what sherwood and Mcgillicuddy do routinely. In regards to Benus, his time has come and gone, his missing of fall ball hurt him and leaves him trying to get in shape to paly
Fogo and Goalie, Shafer and Savio keep doing what you do
Overall, There are problems in the locker room. Players do not trust each other or feel that are noting getting a fair chance. They see the same mistakes being made in practice and in games and there is no changes. It seems them that play time is based on last name and who you know. It may not be true, but perception is reality. Remember when we sat Shafer last year for a game? He came back and played like an all american, because he new he was on a short leash. Why not do that to an Olmstead, Sherwood, Lindsay etc. Maybe you will find someone that can do it better, kind of like when they sat Drew Bledsoe and started a young Tom Brady. From what I hear is that these players make the same mistakes in practice that they do in games. Time to see what others can do, there are younger and even older players that would love to have an opportunity to screw up in a game like the above players mentioned.
The excuses that we only lost by one goal or this is a tough ocs, yes it is. Prior to last year we played Duke, Rutgers, UVA, Hopkins Georgetown and towson. The only change this year is Maryland for UVA. Our loses to Hopkins, Townson, Rutgers and Army, if we increased our shooting percentage 5% to 27%, which is still incredibly low, we win those games, We should be 7-1
What happened to the team I saw scrimmage Villanova last fall? Crisp ball movement, great defense, where has that team gone.
It is time for Coach Toomey to right the ship, it is time to make some changes and with changes comes risk, but we cannot keep doing what we aer doing.
I think some of the Loyola faithful will have their eyes opened after the season, there is talk of players entering the portal and transfering. But that discussion is for another time