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What was that?

Did you hear that?

Was that dislaxxic's sphincter snapping shut? Trinitys'? Typical Lax Dads'? Maybe all squeaking closed at the same time?
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get it to x wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:33 pm Well, at least some lawyers got fat off this whole shebang. Other than that we have some troll farmers, a guy scammed by the FBI to try and set the narrative (Papadopolous), General Flynn (Ambush Victim), the slime ball attorney Cohen, the bigger slime ball Manafort (how does Tony Podesta skate?) and Roger Stone. How do you polish that turd?
So, don't investigate our Federal leaders when they lie to the people. Got it.

So a sitting President's attorney is in jail, and so is his Campaign Chair, and you guys conclude: "well, we should trust our Federal leaders implicitly. Even when we prove in court that they lie to us".

Up is down. Down is up.
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a fan wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:21 pm
get it to x wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:33 pm Well, at least some lawyers got fat off this whole shebang. Other than that we have some troll farmers, a guy scammed by the FBI to try and set the narrative (Papadopolous), General Flynn (Ambush Victim), the slime ball attorney Cohen, the bigger slime ball Manafort (how does Tony Podesta skate?) and Roger Stone. How do you polish that turd?
So, don't investigate our Federal leaders when they lie to the people. Got it.

So a sitting President's attorney is in jail, and so is his Campaign Chair, and you guys conclude: "well, we should trust our Federal leaders implicitly. Even when we prove in court that they lie to us".

Up is down. Down is up.
You have known for a while that this was the likely outcome and that's the best you can come up with? Weak sauce, as none of it was connected to "Orange Man Bad" and any election shenanigans. Please don't bring Stephanie Clifford into this.
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6ftstick wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:41 pm
get it to x wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:33 pm Well, at least some lawyers got fat off this whole shebang. Other than that we have some troll farmers, a guy scammed by the FBI to try and set the narrative (Papadopolous), General Flynn (Ambush Victim), the slime ball attorney Cohen, the bigger slime ball Manafort (how does Tony Podesta skate?) and Roger Stone. How do you polish that turd?
And the question no one asks. "Where was the Obama administration while ALL THIS HORRIBLE RUSSIAN STUFF was goin on?"
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get it to x wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:31 pm You have known for a while that this was the likely outcome and that's the best you can come up with? Weak sauce, as none of it was connected to "Orange Man Bad" and any election shenanigans.
Right.

Trump fired Comey, the man investigating him. That's why Mueller arrived. A five year old understands this.

All Trump had to do was leave Comey alone to finish his investigation, and this would have been over more than a year ago.
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a fan wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:57 pm
get it to x wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:31 pm You have known for a while that this was the likely outcome and that's the best you can come up with? Weak sauce, as none of it was connected to "Orange Man Bad" and any election shenanigans.
Right.

Trump fired Comey, the man investigating him. That's why Mueller arrived. A five year old understands this.

All Trump had to do was leave Comey alone to finish his investigation, and this would have been over more than a year ago.
Comey is the sole player in this drama who pissed off everybody. Comey should never have made the initial Clinton email announcement. He admitted to leaking, admitted to triggering the Special Counsel. Other Obama officials had their hand in the Clinton "matter" but in the spirit of not acting like socialists there will be no reprisals.

I think in a way Mueller was thinking like a patriot, in that if he hired liberal guns and they couldn't find anything then the American people would be at peace with the result.
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I think that both Trump and Hillary put the nation, Comey, and Mueller between a rock and a hard place. And that both Comey and Mueller would have rather been doing a whole mess of things other than wasting their time with those two lying slimeballs.

We should be ashamed as a nation that we let either of them anywhere near the damn steering wheel.

THAT is the lesson here.
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Trinity wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:59 pm How do you not question Jared and Dondi? I guess those 17 Democrats aren’t so angry.
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a fan wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:12 pm I think that both Trump and Hillary put the nation, Comey, and Mueller between a rock and a hard place. And that both Comey and Mueller would have rather been doing a whole mess of things other than wasting their time with those two lying slimeballs.

We should be ashamed as a nation that we let either of them anywhere near the damn steering wheel.

THAT is the lesson here.

Easy to throw ol' Hil under the bus when it's already backed over her.

If Trump could stop punching down he would be unstoppable.
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I threw Hillary under the bus, as you put it, as it was happening, on Laxpower. Her use of a private server was insane.

I was even more livid when Bill pulled that tarmac meeting---you'd find that if we had Laxpower archives. I would've been thrilled if they arrested him for that. That was banana Republic horsesh*t that demeaned our entire nation, and made our Federal laws look like a joke, so long as you had power.

And I praised Comey because he didn't have a right move with Hillary's case. So he cut the baby in half.

And then Karma endorsed Comey's choice to not indict, and we voted Hill off the island. The Republic won.

And Hillary did it to herself.
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a fan wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:33 pm I threw Hillary under the bus, as you put it, as it was happening, on Laxpower. Her use of a private server was insane.

I was even more livid when Bill pulled that tarmac meeting---you'd find that if we had Laxpower archives. I would've been thrilled if they arrested him for that. That was banana Republic horsesh*t that demeaned our entire nation, and made our Federal laws look like a joke, so long as you had power.

And I praised Comey because he didn't have a right move with Hillary's case. So he cut the baby in half.

And then Karma endorsed Comey's choice to not indict, and we voted Hill off the island. The Republic won.

And Hillary did it to herself.
I don't think we're as far apart as you think. I think the most important line in Trump's victory speech was along the lines of "People want a government that will serve the people, and serve the people it will".

As far as Comey goes, I get your sentiment and your willingness to forgive, but what he did was unconstitutional. It was the Assistant AG's decision whether to prosecute HRC or not.
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Trump supporters right now:

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get it to x wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:56 pm As far as Comey goes, I get your sentiment and your willingness to forgive, but what he did was unconstitutional. It was the Assistant AG's decision whether to prosecute HRC or not.
Comey had no power to keep the AG from doing that. All the FBI ever does is recommend. And that's what Comey did.

My question with Comey choices back then, is the same as it is now: let's say they indict Hill. She gets killed in the election because she's under indictment.

And let's say that AG can't get a conviction because convicting a rich powerful person in America is really difficult.

Now what? You just had a politically appointed AG take out one of the people's choices for President over nothing. That's unacceptable.

So as I said, Comey was between a rock and a hard place. And in the end, Hill got her just desserts, and lost to Donald Freaking Trump. The Universe won.

If you hate Hillary, surely you understand that losing to Trump in the election was a fate far worse then probation or a few weeks in some glorified halfway home called prison. To my point, who's better off in life: Hillary, or Martha Stewart?

Easy, easy answer there, don't you think? :lol:
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holmes435 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:43 pm Trump supporters right now:

Sealed indictments.
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Just knowing that hours before Trump won she thought she had it in the bag is enough for my Teutonic Schadenfreude.
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:lol: See? It all worked out.
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"At this point, it is not possible to say what is in the report. But even at this early moment, it is possible to note some things did not happen during the Mueller investigation."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... estigation
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old salt wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:51 pm Sealed indictments.
Curious question because I honestly do not know. If a President can not be indicted (officially) can they be indicted (unofficially)....meaning, had they not been potus there would be an indictment, so the only legal recourse Mueller had was to make one sealed?

Hypothetical - the timeline proves Trump was guilty of something related to Russia "prior" to being elected POTUS, but now that he is POTUS he cannot officially be indicted, therefore it is a sealed indictment, that will not be revealed until he is no longer POTUS? or would they need to officially begin impeachment process?
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tech37 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:47 am "At this point, it is not possible to say what is in the report. But even at this early moment, it is possible to note some things did not happen during the Mueller investigation."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... estigation
Author Byron York correctly points out that Trump's son and son-in-law were not indicted by Mueller, as reports now say that there are not further Mueller indictments. Does _not_ mean that they are in the clear - investigations certainly could be ongoing by SDNY or other parts of Justice (perhaps a National Security investigation). Any further investigations would not necessarily be part of the report Mueller submitted that could be released.

His conclusion that the president did not interfere with the investigation is laughable - the president did fire Comey to get rid of the investigation. Barr noted that there were no overruling decisions from top Justice Department officials, which is not the same as saying the president did not interfere. It can only be concluded that the president's attempts at interference were not carried out.
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Let’s remember that the left assured us mueller was an honest man as well as a bulldog and would leave no stone unturned by the time he was done this investigation.

So now the left’s narrative will change.

Guessing Barr will be the bad guy now.

And we’ll see a strong push to remove the electoral college.

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