joewillie78 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:15 pmCornellfaircornell wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:11 pm With Harvard's win over BU (assuming that they make it past Dartmouth) we could have four Ivies in the top 12-15 teams.
Princeton
Penn
Harvard
Yale
Isn't that 5? Or does one not make the top 15?
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
yes... you got me on that one... Yale needs to show some grit against Princeton to stay in the top 15.Oh I think Yale will show grit, but whether that translates into success is another thing. They certainly showed grit against our Big Red, and after such a tough loss, Shay will have them ready. Will be another great weekend of IVY lax. Can't wait.faircornell wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:17 pmjoewillie78 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:15 pmCornellfaircornell wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:11 pm With Harvard's win over BU (assuming that they make it past Dartmouth) we could have four Ivies in the top 12-15 teams.
Princeton
Penn
Harvard
Yale
Isn't that 5? Or does one not make the top 15?
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
There is: viewtopic.php?f=290&t=2328. Just doesn't get a lot of traction.
Hmmm, okay, yes, the Yale chemistry hasn't quite been there, but a one-goal loss to Cornell in Ithaca... well, anyway, write off the Elis if you wish, but I think that Penn and Yale will come out strong against very good opponents and register home wins in Philly and New Haven, respectively. Penn v Cornell and Yale v Princeton should be two tremendous games; the four teams are all very good, and I think Shay will make some adjustments in his Yale team while Princeton may be carrying an injury or two. Cornell is (again) very good, but I don't think that any Ivy will make it through League play undefeated; just too difficult a gauntlet with so many good teams. Of course, I could be wrong, but I'm predicting another home sweep, including Harvard over Dartmouth and Brown over UMass. UMass has reeled off three straight wins since losing in OT to Yale, so that will be a good test for Bruno. I hope that Dartmouth gets an IL win this season, and knocking off Harvard would be a good way of doing so, but my head says Harvard will prevail.Can Opener wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:24 pm Another big weekend ahead for the best conference in college lacrosse. The teams have combined for a 28-7 (.800) record against non-conference opponents and 3 teams are ranked in the top 6 of the media poll. I have included the Massey predictions below, but if you want the details, you can dig deeper here: https://masseyratings.com/clax/ncaa-d1/games Massey has become increasingly accurate this season with his computer forecasts, including a 4-0 record last week against my 1-3 record that was tainted by some homerism.
#4 Cornell (6-0) at #6 Penn (3-2) – Massey predicts a 12-11 Quaker victory in the Ivy Game of the Week. Fun fact: Penn has scored 60 goals this year and their opponents have also scored 60 goals. Massey is right about the one-goal margin, but I have this going the other way, with a 13-12 Big Red win. I had doubts about Cornell this year with all of the coaching changes and time away from the game, but they have built a remarkable culture that doesn’t depend on a Teat or Pannell. Could be some playoff implications with this game for Penn, a team with only one signature win which is against a Duke squad that currently lacks a signature win.
#2 Princeton (5-1) at #14 Yale (3-2) – Massey says Tigers win 14-13. Has the Tsai Center of Opulence sanded off some of the rough edges and watered down the pi$$ and vinegar attitude of Yale? Shay has remarked multiple times that when they were making their Memorial Day weekend runs, it was largely thanks to guys who weren’t ranked in the IL top 100 coming out of HS. Solid goaltending, FO play and (wow) Matt Brandau are pluses, but the chemistry seems a little off. I had my doubts about Princeton early on, but they have proven that a dad living in the suburbs is a poor judge of lacrosse heart. The Tigers are 3-1 so far within their gauntlet of six straight top 20 battles. I’m going Princeton 16-13.
RV Dartmouth (4-2) at #15 Harvard (5-1) – Massey forecasts a 13-9 Crimson home win. Sorry kid, no pressure, but this game hinges 90% on Hincks seeing beach balls from the Dartmouth cage. He is capable of 20-save days and the Big Green may need that from him against a Harvard team whose confidence is sky high after two top 20 wins last week against Brown and an undefeated BU. Freshman Martin Nelson had a huge day on the FO wing for the Crimson Tuesday, coming up with 7 GBs. Harvard’s FO specialists rarely win a clean clamp, but do an above average job fighting for the scraps. If Nelson shows up with a sticky pocket again, he can be a game changer. I’ve been banging the drum for Hincks for four years, so I have to stay true. Big Green stuns the Crimson 12-11 thanks to 21 saves from their (future) All American.
UMass (4-3) at #17 Brown (5-2) Massey forecasts a 13-10 win for Brown State, but man, this is a spooky one for the home team. UMass lost to Yale in OT on the road in a game that the MM led after three quarters. They lost to Army on the road by a goal in another game that was tied after three quarters. The MM bring solid goalie play and an above average FO game to Providence. If they were based in the 410 instead of the 413, UMass would be ranked in the polls. Brown State has a better stable of horses, but goofy TOs and bad bounces have plagued them this year. How the heck do you win 22 of 26 FOs against Harvard and lose the game??? Nonetheless, the home team prevails in this battle of state schools with a 15-11 win.
These games are all close like last week, where to me, the deciding factor was the home field advantage as all the home teams won. Much to my dismay, I feel like this weekend will produce similar results, but to my delight, they all should be a joy to watch.Can Opener wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:30 pm If I were betting $, I would go with your picks, Fann. Just really hard to handicap these games which a great and fun thing.
We could get there. So far, no Ivy team has lost at home. I'm trying to determine who needs to beat whom away for this to happen. For example, if Cornell beats Dartmouth away, and Harvard and Brown at home, and loses to Princeton away, it ends the season at 4-2.
FC,faircornell wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:23 pmWe could get there. So far, no Ivy team has lost at home. I'm trying to determine who needs to beat whom away for this to happen. For example, if Cornell beats Dartmouth away, and Harvard and Brown at home, and loses to Princeton away, it ends the season at 4-2.
Yes indeed, Harvard is 2-0 in conference play; its remaining league schedule (after its bye-week game vs Colgate next Saturday) consists of Cornell in Ithaca, Penn in Philly, a home game against Princeton and then Yale in New Haven. But today Harvard won its second consecutive home game, 19-10 over Dartmouth. Penn and Yale also won their home games, so suddenly the sky looks brighter for them, all clumped together with Cornell and Princeton with 1-1 records. Brown lost at home today to UMass. Methinks the home-team Ivy winning streak ends next Saturday, as Cornell at Dartmouth combined with Princeton at Brown would seem to augur an away win. Penn at Yale too? Perhaps this is the marquee Ivy match-up next weekend, and whoever wins will be feeling good about their chances to make the ILT. Will this be another overtime game like so many between these two in recent years?bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:11 pm Aaaaaannnnd the IL leader is everybody's favorite institution with an endowment bigger than most Western European economies!
Yes, Penn will move ahead of Cornell even though Cornell beat the team that beat the team that was previous #2, and beat Penn.
