Orange Duce

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RedFromMI wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:24 am
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:07 am
RedFromMI wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:58 am
seacoaster wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:02 am More information about the GOP party leader and frontrunner for the 2024 nomination:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... hite-house
The report – “No 32-04 \ vd” – is classified as secret. It says Trump is the “most promising candidate” from the Kremlin’s point of view. The word in Russian is perspektivny.

There is a brief psychological assessment of Trump, who is described as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex”.

There is also apparent confirmation that the Kremlin possesses kompromat, or potentially compromising material, on the future president, collected – the document says – from Trump’s earlier “non-official visits to Russian Federation territory”.

The paper refers to “certain events” that happened during Trump’s trips to Moscow. Security council members are invited to find details in appendix five, at paragraph five, the document states. It is unclear what the appendix contains.

“It is acutely necessary to use all possible force to facilitate his [Trump’s] election to the post of US president,” the paper says.
Says a lot about the Putin/Trump relationship...



Given that Putin invaded Crimea under the Obama administration and Ukraine under the Biden administration, but not much during Trump, this report isn’t selling what you ant it to sell.
What Putin is doing now is not exactly relevant to the fact that the Kremlin apparently views Trump as an useful idiot. The invasion now is due to Putin's miscalculation that NATO and Western Europe would allow Ukraine to fold, and that Ukraine would actually do so. That is on Putin.

I am not sure you actually understood that the point I was making was that Trump's election was a horrible mistake, because of his obvious faults, and a compromised relationship to Putin/Russia.

Putin did not invade during the Trump presidency precisely because he had the hope for a second Trump term where NATO would be fatally weakened or fell apart completely. Why invade if Trump might give you a bigger present for free...
The troll failed both Reading Comprehension 101 and Introduction to Logic at UF. These things happen when you know you’re just going take over Daddy’s business.
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RedFromMI wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:24 am
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:07 am
RedFromMI wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:58 am
seacoaster wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:02 am More information about the GOP party leader and frontrunner for the 2024 nomination:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... hite-house
The report – “No 32-04 \ vd” – is classified as secret. It says Trump is the “most promising candidate” from the Kremlin’s point of view. The word in Russian is perspektivny.

There is a brief psychological assessment of Trump, who is described as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex”.

There is also apparent confirmation that the Kremlin possesses kompromat, or potentially compromising material, on the future president, collected – the document says – from Trump’s earlier “non-official visits to Russian Federation territory”.

The paper refers to “certain events” that happened during Trump’s trips to Moscow. Security council members are invited to find details in appendix five, at paragraph five, the document states. It is unclear what the appendix contains.

“It is acutely necessary to use all possible force to facilitate his [Trump’s] election to the post of US president,” the paper says.
Says a lot about the Putin/Trump relationship...



Given that Putin invaded Crimea under the Obama administration and Ukraine under the Biden administration, but not much during Trump, this report isn’t selling what you want it to sell.
What Putin is doing now is not exactly relevant to the fact that the Kremlin apparently views Trump as an useful idiot. The invasion now is due to Putin's miscalculation that NATO and Western Europe would allow Ukraine to fold, and that Ukraine would actually do so. That is on Putin.

I am not sure you actually understood that the point I was making was that Trump's election was a horrible mistake, because of his obvious faults, and a compromised relationship to Putin/Russia.

Putin did not invade during the Trump presidency precisely because he had the hope for a second Trump term where NATO would be fatally weakened or fell apart completely. Why invade if Trump might give you a bigger present for free...



Trump was a certifiable incompetent on the world stage. We agree.

But you can’t deny that Putin only pushed his weapons on Crimea and Ukraine under Democratic administration’s. He did.

Honestly, I think Trump seems like such a loose cannon, adversaries hesitate before doing anything. I’m not saying this is good, it simply is what it is.

I don’t think Putin waited to invade Ukraine because he thought Trump would wreck NATO. I don’t think Putin calculates beyond the week.

Anyway, I’m hoping that the Ukrainians waste Putin’s armed forces. It’s going to destroy Ukraine for decades unfortunately.
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Yes, awful for Ukraine. But if they prevail, expect a mini-Marshall plan and acceptance into the EU.

While it's possible that Putin has gone round the bend, don't confuse Trump's incapacity to think coherently beyond the length of his appendages with Putin's calculations over decades.

Putin is light years brighter and more calculating than Trump, suffers none of the same weaknesses of mind and impulse.

So, it's a mistake to confuse them.

That said, it appears that Putin has made a major miscalculation on both Ukraine's resistance and his forces' capabilities. So, he's bleeding badly. It's entirely possible that his isolation and total dominance led him to trust the happy talk from his generals and intelligence orgs eager to tell him what he wanted to hear.

But it's also entirely reasonable to see that he felt that the Biden Admin would be successful in re-bolstering NATO and in further encouraging the Ukrainian move westward. He also knew that Ukraine was growing militarily stronger, and more anti-Russia, due to the struggle in Donbas. So, moving now, if ever, might well have been the calculation. And he may well yet succeed in pounding Ukraine into submission and cowing NATO with nuclear saber rattling.

By contrast, under Trump, NATO was disunited, and slowly coming apart, with even Article 5 being questioned. Had Trump won again, that trend would have been expected to have continued, with lots of Russian cyber trolling helping that along. And had Putin decided that he needed to take Donbas and the land bridge from there to Crimea, he'd have been met with a disunited, distrustful of one another, NATO, far less likely to react with such vehemence, much less coordination. And no one in Europe would have trusted Trump to act with any kind of concern for their interests. A later taking of western Ukraine would then be in the offing, having not had to expend so much in the initial aggression.
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I know the Fanlax FLP hate the Donald, so they might be a little angrier today seeing as how Stormy Daniels was just ordered to pay him $300,000 for her frivolous lawsuit. :o

:lol: :lol:

Former porn star Stormy Daniels was ordered by a federal court to pay Donald Trump $300,000 in attorney fees after it rejected her appeal to another's court ruling in her defamation case against the former president.

In a statement issued on Monday, Trump celebrated the news and said that 'all I have to do is wait for all of the money she owes me.'

'The lawsuit was a purely political stunt that never should have started, or allowed to happen, and I am pleased that my lawyers were able to bring it to a successful conclusion after the court fully rejected her appeal,' Trump said, according to CNBC.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -fees.html
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Old news.
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Stormy also states that "i'd rather go to jail than pay that money"

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jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:02 pmOld news.



Not the appellate court, which ruled yesterday.

Maybe the FLP could contribute to a GoFundMe and pay Stormy’s fine?
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dislaxxic wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:07 pm Stormy also states that "i'd rather go to jail than pay that money"

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Yeah, it doesn’t quite work that way.

Trump will simply go to court and get an order to seize her assets. Kind of like Trudeau, except here Trump has to actually present evidence (real evidence) that he’s owed the $$$ and then gets an independent judge’s order.

You know, law and things.
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Michael Cohen served prison time for admitting he made hush money payments to Stormy. Anyone that thinks THAT story is over isn't paying attention. A judge said that Stormy didn't "defame" Trumple4skin, so she owes him the legal fees he spent defending his sleezeball activities while his wife was home with his newborn son. Does ANYONE believe the tryst never happened?

No one i know does...

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dislaxxic wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:09 pm Michael Cohen served prison time for admitting he made hush money payments to Stormy. Anyone that thinks THAT story is over isn't paying attention. A judge said that Stormy didn't "defame" Trumple4skin, so she owes him the legal fees he spent defending his sleezeball activities while his wife was home with his newborn son. Does ANYONE believe the tryst never happened?

No one i know does...


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Does Stormy Daniels count?

Porn star: I didn't have sex with Trump

An adult film star who previously alleged an extramarital affair with Donald Trump now says in a statement the affair never happened.

A lawyer for porn actress Stormy Daniels confirmed his client’s statement Tuesday. Daniels’ real name is Stephanie Clifford.

Clifford has been on a publicity tour in recent weeks amid news of the alleged 2006 tryst with the president. She is scheduled to appear Tuesday on ABC’s “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” Her publicist hasn’t answered questions about the statement


https://nypost.com/2018/01/30/stormy-da ... ith-trump/
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... on-guilty/

"A veteran prosecutor who resigned from a special appointment to the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into Donald Trump’s finances and business practices said the former president personally committed felonies and should be charged promptly.

The comments were made in Mark Pomerantz’s Feb. 23 resignation letter as he and Carey Dunne, another top investigator on the team probing Trump and the family-run Trump Organization, abruptly left the office after people familiar with the matter said District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) appeared uninterested in pursuing a case.

“The team that has been investigating Mr. Trump harbors no doubt about whether he committed crimes — he did,” Pomerantz’s letter said, according to a copy obtained by The Washington Post. The New York Times first reported on the contents of Pomerantz’s letter.

Prosecutors in Trump probe quit after new DA seems to abandon plan to seek indictment of former president

Pomerantz added that Trump lied to banks and other relevant parties committing “numerous felony violations” through his practice of filing bogus Statements of Financial Condition. Investigators under the district attorney and the New York attorney general spent years working to determine if Trump and the Trump Organization tried to decrease tax liability by falsely minimizing asset values while trying to obtain favorable loan rates using other fake estimates.

Pomerantz said he and his counterparts in the probe determined Trump broke New York law and that a criminal case against him was viable.

“In my view, the public interest warrants the criminal prosecution of Mr. Trump, and such a prosecution should be brought without any further delay,” the letter said, noting that the case has dragged on for so long because of obstruction by Trump and the Trump Organization.

Pomerantz said in the letter that despite what the investigative team had unearthed, Bragg’s office had “suspended indefinitely” the Trump investigation, prompting his decision to resign.

“I believe that your decision not to prosecute Donald Trump now, and on the existing record, is misguided and completely contrary to the public interest,” Pomerantz said, suggesting that a further delay would jeopardize their ability to bring a case at all.

Trump has not announced he will seek reelection in 2024, but he is widely believed to be raising funds for a future presidential run.

Delays have prohibited the advancement of the state prosecutor’s case since it began in 2019 under District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. (D). Bragg inherited the case when he won election to the office last year.

Trump waged a protracted legal battle to try to stop Vance from obtaining his tax returns and related records. A year ago, the Supreme Court ruled that Trump could not prevent his accounting firm Mazars USA from complying with the district attorney’s subpoena for his documents.

There have also been looming statutes-of-limitations deadlines that could keep prosecutors from utilizing certain laws if a future case were to be considered.

A spokeswoman for Bragg said his office’s probe into Trump and the company is still underway but declined to discuss it further, citing “an ongoing investigation.” Bragg appointed one of his own executives, Susan Hoffinger, to lead the case after Pomerantz and Dunne left.

“A team of experienced prosecutors is working every day to follow the facts and the law,” Bragg spokeswoman Danielle Filson said in a statement.

Vance had decided to proceed with a case against Trump, convening a six-month grand jury last fall to hear evidence against the polarizing former president but ultimately left the final say on whether to go forward to Bragg, who was weeks away from assuming office. That grand jury stopped hearing evidence when progress stalled under Bragg.

Trump’s attorney Ron Fischetti said he believed Pomerantz, his former law partner, left the case because he was “angry” over Bragg’s reluctance to go forward after Pomerantz spent more than a year trying to put together a case.

“We should applaud District Attorney Alvin Bragg for adhering to the rule of law and sticking to the evidence while making an apolitical charging decision based solely on the lack of evidence and nothing else,” Fischetti said.

Trump Organization spokeswoman Kimberly Benza called Pomerantz “a never-Trumper” with “zero credibility.” Benza said Pomerantz “came out of retirement to take a non-paying job in the District Attorney’s Office for the sole purpose of getting Donald Trump.”

Pomerantz, a former federal prosecutor who headed the criminal division of the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan and later spent years in private practice, joined the case more than a year ago as an unpaid “special assistant district attorney” adding extensive experience in building complex cases to an already expansive team.

On his way out, he told Bragg that any further delay in bringing a case “will doom any future prospects that Mr. Trump will be prosecuted for the criminal conduct we have been investigating.”

“I have worked too hard as a lawyer, and for too long, now to become a passive participant in what I believe to be a grave failure of justice,” Pomerantz said in his departure missive.

Last year, Trump’s longtime chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, was indicted along with the Trump Organization for allegedly engaging in a 15-year tax cheating scheme involving compensation for Weisselberg and other Trump Organization executives.

While close observers of the case raised doubts that any further charges would stem from the Trump probe, Pomerantz and his team quietly worked to solidify a case they expected Bragg would authorize once he took office on Jan. 1.

Pomerantz said Bragg was seeking additional evidence but that investigators had already done all there was to do during an inquiry spanning more than two years."

“No events are likely to occur that will alter the nature of the case or dramatically change the quality or quantity of the evidence available to the prosecution,” his letter said.
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seacoaster wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:33 pm https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... on-guilty/

"A veteran prosecutor who resigned from a special appointment to the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into Donald Trump’s finances and business practices said the former president personally committed felonies and should be charged promptly.

The comments were made in Mark Pomerantz’s Feb. 23 resignation letter as he and Carey Dunne, another top investigator on the team probing Trump and the family-run Trump Organization, abruptly left the office after people familiar with the matter said District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) appeared uninterested in pursuing a case.

“The team that has been investigating Mr. Trump harbors no doubt about whether he committed crimes — he did,” Pomerantz’s letter said, according to a copy obtained by The Washington Post. The New York Times first reported on the contents of Pomerantz’s letter.

Prosecutors in Trump probe quit after new DA seems to abandon plan to seek indictment of former president

Pomerantz added that Trump lied to banks and other relevant parties committing “numerous felony violations” through his practice of filing bogus Statements of Financial Condition. Investigators under the district attorney and the New York attorney general spent years working to determine if Trump and the Trump Organization tried to decrease tax liability by falsely minimizing asset values while trying to obtain favorable loan rates using other fake estimates.

Pomerantz said he and his counterparts in the probe determined Trump broke New York law and that a criminal case against him was viable.

“In my view, the public interest warrants the criminal prosecution of Mr. Trump, and such a prosecution should be brought without any further delay,” the letter said, noting that the case has dragged on for so long because of obstruction by Trump and the Trump Organization.

Pomerantz said in the letter that despite what the investigative team had unearthed, Bragg’s office had “suspended indefinitely” the Trump investigation, prompting his decision to resign.

“I believe that your decision not to prosecute Donald Trump now, and on the existing record, is misguided and completely contrary to the public interest,” Pomerantz said, suggesting that a further delay would jeopardize their ability to bring a case at all.

Trump has not announced he will seek reelection in 2024, but he is widely believed to be raising funds for a future presidential run.

Delays have prohibited the advancement of the state prosecutor’s case since it began in 2019 under District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. (D). Bragg inherited the case when he won election to the office last year.

Trump waged a protracted legal battle to try to stop Vance from obtaining his tax returns and related records. A year ago, the Supreme Court ruled that Trump could not prevent his accounting firm Mazars USA from complying with the district attorney’s subpoena for his documents.

There have also been looming statutes-of-limitations deadlines that could keep prosecutors from utilizing certain laws if a future case were to be considered.

A spokeswoman for Bragg said his office’s probe into Trump and the company is still underway but declined to discuss it further, citing “an ongoing investigation.” Bragg appointed one of his own executives, Susan Hoffinger, to lead the case after Pomerantz and Dunne left.

“A team of experienced prosecutors is working every day to follow the facts and the law,” Bragg spokeswoman Danielle Filson said in a statement.

Vance had decided to proceed with a case against Trump, convening a six-month grand jury last fall to hear evidence against the polarizing former president but ultimately left the final say on whether to go forward to Bragg, who was weeks away from assuming office. That grand jury stopped hearing evidence when progress stalled under Bragg.

Trump’s attorney Ron Fischetti said he believed Pomerantz, his former law partner, left the case because he was “angry” over Bragg’s reluctance to go forward after Pomerantz spent more than a year trying to put together a case.

“We should applaud District Attorney Alvin Bragg for adhering to the rule of law and sticking to the evidence while making an apolitical charging decision based solely on the lack of evidence and nothing else,” Fischetti said.

Trump Organization spokeswoman Kimberly Benza called Pomerantz “a never-Trumper” with “zero credibility.” Benza said Pomerantz “came out of retirement to take a non-paying job in the District Attorney’s Office for the sole purpose of getting Donald Trump.”

Pomerantz, a former federal prosecutor who headed the criminal division of the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan and later spent years in private practice, joined the case more than a year ago as an unpaid “special assistant district attorney” adding extensive experience in building complex cases to an already expansive team.

On his way out, he told Bragg that any further delay in bringing a case “will doom any future prospects that Mr. Trump will be prosecuted for the criminal conduct we have been investigating.”

“I have worked too hard as a lawyer, and for too long, now to become a passive participant in what I believe to be a grave failure of justice,” Pomerantz said in his departure missive.

Last year, Trump’s longtime chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, was indicted along with the Trump Organization for allegedly engaging in a 15-year tax cheating scheme involving compensation for Weisselberg and other Trump Organization executives.

While close observers of the case raised doubts that any further charges would stem from the Trump probe, Pomerantz and his team quietly worked to solidify a case they expected Bragg would authorize once he took office on Jan. 1.

Pomerantz said Bragg was seeking additional evidence but that investigators had already done all there was to do during an inquiry spanning more than two years."

“No events are likely to occur that will alter the nature of the case or dramatically change the quality or quantity of the evidence available to the prosecution,” his letter said.
... Bragg owes the people of New York State and the United States an explanation, and it better be a damn good one! Seems Pomerantz is forcing Bragg's hand. Calling him out. Pomerantz doesn't leave any wiggle room -- “The team that has been investigating Mr. Trump harbors no doubt about whether he committed crimes — he did.”
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:07 pm
seacoaster wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:33 pm https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... on-guilty/

"A veteran prosecutor who resigned from a special appointment to the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into Donald Trump’s finances and business practices said the former president personally committed felonies and should be charged promptly.

The comments were made in Mark Pomerantz’s Feb. 23 resignation letter as he and Carey Dunne, another top investigator on the team probing Trump and the family-run Trump Organization, abruptly left the office after people familiar with the matter said District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) appeared uninterested in pursuing a case.

“The team that has been investigating Mr. Trump harbors no doubt about whether he committed crimes — he did,” Pomerantz’s letter said, according to a copy obtained by The Washington Post. The New York Times first reported on the contents of Pomerantz’s letter.

Prosecutors in Trump probe quit after new DA seems to abandon plan to seek indictment of former president

Pomerantz added that Trump lied to banks and other relevant parties committing “numerous felony violations” through his practice of filing bogus Statements of Financial Condition. Investigators under the district attorney and the New York attorney general spent years working to determine if Trump and the Trump Organization tried to decrease tax liability by falsely minimizing asset values while trying to obtain favorable loan rates using other fake estimates.

Pomerantz said he and his counterparts in the probe determined Trump broke New York law and that a criminal case against him was viable.

“In my view, the public interest warrants the criminal prosecution of Mr. Trump, and such a prosecution should be brought without any further delay,” the letter said, noting that the case has dragged on for so long because of obstruction by Trump and the Trump Organization.

Pomerantz said in the letter that despite what the investigative team had unearthed, Bragg’s office had “suspended indefinitely” the Trump investigation, prompting his decision to resign.

“I believe that your decision not to prosecute Donald Trump now, and on the existing record, is misguided and completely contrary to the public interest,” Pomerantz said, suggesting that a further delay would jeopardize their ability to bring a case at all.

Trump has not announced he will seek reelection in 2024, but he is widely believed to be raising funds for a future presidential run.

Delays have prohibited the advancement of the state prosecutor’s case since it began in 2019 under District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. (D). Bragg inherited the case when he won election to the office last year.

Trump waged a protracted legal battle to try to stop Vance from obtaining his tax returns and related records. A year ago, the Supreme Court ruled that Trump could not prevent his accounting firm Mazars USA from complying with the district attorney’s subpoena for his documents.

There have also been looming statutes-of-limitations deadlines that could keep prosecutors from utilizing certain laws if a future case were to be considered.

A spokeswoman for Bragg said his office’s probe into Trump and the company is still underway but declined to discuss it further, citing “an ongoing investigation.” Bragg appointed one of his own executives, Susan Hoffinger, to lead the case after Pomerantz and Dunne left.

“A team of experienced prosecutors is working every day to follow the facts and the law,” Bragg spokeswoman Danielle Filson said in a statement.

Vance had decided to proceed with a case against Trump, convening a six-month grand jury last fall to hear evidence against the polarizing former president but ultimately left the final say on whether to go forward to Bragg, who was weeks away from assuming office. That grand jury stopped hearing evidence when progress stalled under Bragg.

Trump’s attorney Ron Fischetti said he believed Pomerantz, his former law partner, left the case because he was “angry” over Bragg’s reluctance to go forward after Pomerantz spent more than a year trying to put together a case.

“We should applaud District Attorney Alvin Bragg for adhering to the rule of law and sticking to the evidence while making an apolitical charging decision based solely on the lack of evidence and nothing else,” Fischetti said.

Trump Organization spokeswoman Kimberly Benza called Pomerantz “a never-Trumper” with “zero credibility.” Benza said Pomerantz “came out of retirement to take a non-paying job in the District Attorney’s Office for the sole purpose of getting Donald Trump.”

Pomerantz, a former federal prosecutor who headed the criminal division of the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan and later spent years in private practice, joined the case more than a year ago as an unpaid “special assistant district attorney” adding extensive experience in building complex cases to an already expansive team.

On his way out, he told Bragg that any further delay in bringing a case “will doom any future prospects that Mr. Trump will be prosecuted for the criminal conduct we have been investigating.”

“I have worked too hard as a lawyer, and for too long, now to become a passive participant in what I believe to be a grave failure of justice,” Pomerantz said in his departure missive.

Last year, Trump’s longtime chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, was indicted along with the Trump Organization for allegedly engaging in a 15-year tax cheating scheme involving compensation for Weisselberg and other Trump Organization executives.

While close observers of the case raised doubts that any further charges would stem from the Trump probe, Pomerantz and his team quietly worked to solidify a case they expected Bragg would authorize once he took office on Jan. 1.

Pomerantz said Bragg was seeking additional evidence but that investigators had already done all there was to do during an inquiry spanning more than two years."

“No events are likely to occur that will alter the nature of the case or dramatically change the quality or quantity of the evidence available to the prosecution,” his letter said.
... Bragg owes the people of New York State and the United States an explanation, and it better be a damn good one! Seems Pomerantz is forcing Bragg's hand. Calling him out. Pomerantz doesn't leave any wiggle room -- “The team that has been investigating Mr. Trump harbors no doubt about whether he committed crimes — he did.”


:roll:

jhu72 missing the bigger story here.

“Leaking a letter about internal DA office deliberations in a case that has not led to indictment was wildly inappropriate. That it got out does not speak well of those who wanted to indict.”
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Peter Brown wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:34 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:07 pm
seacoaster wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:33 pm https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... on-guilty/

"A veteran prosecutor who resigned from a special appointment to the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into Donald Trump’s finances and business practices said the former president personally committed felonies and should be charged promptly.

The comments were made in Mark Pomerantz’s Feb. 23 resignation letter as he and Carey Dunne, another top investigator on the team probing Trump and the family-run Trump Organization, abruptly left the office after people familiar with the matter said District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) appeared uninterested in pursuing a case.

“The team that has been investigating Mr. Trump harbors no doubt about whether he committed crimes — he did,” Pomerantz’s letter said, according to a copy obtained by The Washington Post. The New York Times first reported on the contents of Pomerantz’s letter.

Prosecutors in Trump probe quit after new DA seems to abandon plan to seek indictment of former president

Pomerantz added that Trump lied to banks and other relevant parties committing “numerous felony violations” through his practice of filing bogus Statements of Financial Condition. Investigators under the district attorney and the New York attorney general spent years working to determine if Trump and the Trump Organization tried to decrease tax liability by falsely minimizing asset values while trying to obtain favorable loan rates using other fake estimates.

Pomerantz said he and his counterparts in the probe determined Trump broke New York law and that a criminal case against him was viable.

“In my view, the public interest warrants the criminal prosecution of Mr. Trump, and such a prosecution should be brought without any further delay,” the letter said, noting that the case has dragged on for so long because of obstruction by Trump and the Trump Organization.

Pomerantz said in the letter that despite what the investigative team had unearthed, Bragg’s office had “suspended indefinitely” the Trump investigation, prompting his decision to resign.

“I believe that your decision not to prosecute Donald Trump now, and on the existing record, is misguided and completely contrary to the public interest,” Pomerantz said, suggesting that a further delay would jeopardize their ability to bring a case at all.

Trump has not announced he will seek reelection in 2024, but he is widely believed to be raising funds for a future presidential run.

Delays have prohibited the advancement of the state prosecutor’s case since it began in 2019 under District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. (D). Bragg inherited the case when he won election to the office last year.

Trump waged a protracted legal battle to try to stop Vance from obtaining his tax returns and related records. A year ago, the Supreme Court ruled that Trump could not prevent his accounting firm Mazars USA from complying with the district attorney’s subpoena for his documents.

There have also been looming statutes-of-limitations deadlines that could keep prosecutors from utilizing certain laws if a future case were to be considered.

A spokeswoman for Bragg said his office’s probe into Trump and the company is still underway but declined to discuss it further, citing “an ongoing investigation.” Bragg appointed one of his own executives, Susan Hoffinger, to lead the case after Pomerantz and Dunne left.

“A team of experienced prosecutors is working every day to follow the facts and the law,” Bragg spokeswoman Danielle Filson said in a statement.

Vance had decided to proceed with a case against Trump, convening a six-month grand jury last fall to hear evidence against the polarizing former president but ultimately left the final say on whether to go forward to Bragg, who was weeks away from assuming office. That grand jury stopped hearing evidence when progress stalled under Bragg.

Trump’s attorney Ron Fischetti said he believed Pomerantz, his former law partner, left the case because he was “angry” over Bragg’s reluctance to go forward after Pomerantz spent more than a year trying to put together a case.

“We should applaud District Attorney Alvin Bragg for adhering to the rule of law and sticking to the evidence while making an apolitical charging decision based solely on the lack of evidence and nothing else,” Fischetti said.

Trump Organization spokeswoman Kimberly Benza called Pomerantz “a never-Trumper” with “zero credibility.” Benza said Pomerantz “came out of retirement to take a non-paying job in the District Attorney’s Office for the sole purpose of getting Donald Trump.”

Pomerantz, a former federal prosecutor who headed the criminal division of the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan and later spent years in private practice, joined the case more than a year ago as an unpaid “special assistant district attorney” adding extensive experience in building complex cases to an already expansive team.

On his way out, he told Bragg that any further delay in bringing a case “will doom any future prospects that Mr. Trump will be prosecuted for the criminal conduct we have been investigating.”

“I have worked too hard as a lawyer, and for too long, now to become a passive participant in what I believe to be a grave failure of justice,” Pomerantz said in his departure missive.

Last year, Trump’s longtime chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, was indicted along with the Trump Organization for allegedly engaging in a 15-year tax cheating scheme involving compensation for Weisselberg and other Trump Organization executives.

While close observers of the case raised doubts that any further charges would stem from the Trump probe, Pomerantz and his team quietly worked to solidify a case they expected Bragg would authorize once he took office on Jan. 1.

Pomerantz said Bragg was seeking additional evidence but that investigators had already done all there was to do during an inquiry spanning more than two years."

“No events are likely to occur that will alter the nature of the case or dramatically change the quality or quantity of the evidence available to the prosecution,” his letter said.
... Bragg owes the people of New York State and the United States an explanation, and it better be a damn good one! Seems Pomerantz is forcing Bragg's hand. Calling him out. Pomerantz doesn't leave any wiggle room -- “The team that has been investigating Mr. Trump harbors no doubt about whether he committed crimes — he did.”


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jhu72 missing the bigger story here.

“Leaking a letter about internal DA office deliberations in a case that has not led to indictment was wildly inappropriate. That it got out does not speak well of those who wanted to indict.”
That won't save the DA Bragg from the political sh*t storm. :lol:
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seacoaster wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:33 pm https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... on-guilty/

"A veteran prosecutor who resigned from a special appointment to the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into Donald Trump’s finances and business practices said the former president personally committed felonies and should be charged promptly.

The comments were made in Mark Pomerantz’s Feb. 23 resignation letter as he and Carey Dunne, another top investigator on the team probing Trump and the family-run Trump Organization, abruptly left the office after people familiar with the matter said District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) appeared uninterested in pursuing a case.

“The team that has been investigating Mr. Trump harbors no doubt about whether he committed crimes — he did,” Pomerantz’s letter said, according to a copy obtained by The Washington Post. The New York Times first reported on the contents of Pomerantz’s letter.

Prosecutors in Trump probe quit after new DA seems to abandon plan to seek indictment of former president

Pomerantz added that Trump lied to banks and other relevant parties committing “numerous felony violations” through his practice of filing bogus Statements of Financial Condition. Investigators under the district attorney and the New York attorney general spent years working to determine if Trump and the Trump Organization tried to decrease tax liability by falsely minimizing asset values while trying to obtain favorable loan rates using other fake estimates.

Pomerantz said he and his counterparts in the probe determined Trump broke New York law and that a criminal case against him was viable.

“In my view, the public interest warrants the criminal prosecution of Mr. Trump, and such a prosecution should be brought without any further delay,” the letter said, noting that the case has dragged on for so long because of obstruction by Trump and the Trump Organization.

Pomerantz said in the letter that despite what the investigative team had unearthed, Bragg’s office had “suspended indefinitely” the Trump investigation, prompting his decision to resign.

“I believe that your decision not to prosecute Donald Trump now, and on the existing record, is misguided and completely contrary to the public interest,” Pomerantz said, suggesting that a further delay would jeopardize their ability to bring a case at all.

Trump has not announced he will seek reelection in 2024, but he is widely believed to be raising funds for a future presidential run.

Delays have prohibited the advancement of the state prosecutor’s case since it began in 2019 under District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. (D). Bragg inherited the case when he won election to the office last year.

Trump waged a protracted legal battle to try to stop Vance from obtaining his tax returns and related records. A year ago, the Supreme Court ruled that Trump could not prevent his accounting firm Mazars USA from complying with the district attorney’s subpoena for his documents.

There have also been looming statutes-of-limitations deadlines that could keep prosecutors from utilizing certain laws if a future case were to be considered.

A spokeswoman for Bragg said his office’s probe into Trump and the company is still underway but declined to discuss it further, citing “an ongoing investigation.” Bragg appointed one of his own executives, Susan Hoffinger, to lead the case after Pomerantz and Dunne left.

“A team of experienced prosecutors is working every day to follow the facts and the law,” Bragg spokeswoman Danielle Filson said in a statement.

Vance had decided to proceed with a case against Trump, convening a six-month grand jury last fall to hear evidence against the polarizing former president but ultimately left the final say on whether to go forward to Bragg, who was weeks away from assuming office. That grand jury stopped hearing evidence when progress stalled under Bragg.

Trump’s attorney Ron Fischetti said he believed Pomerantz, his former law partner, left the case because he was “angry” over Bragg’s reluctance to go forward after Pomerantz spent more than a year trying to put together a case.

“We should applaud District Attorney Alvin Bragg for adhering to the rule of law and sticking to the evidence while making an apolitical charging decision based solely on the lack of evidence and nothing else,” Fischetti said.

Trump Organization spokeswoman Kimberly Benza called Pomerantz “a never-Trumper” with “zero credibility.” Benza said Pomerantz “came out of retirement to take a non-paying job in the District Attorney’s Office for the sole purpose of getting Donald Trump.”

Pomerantz, a former federal prosecutor who headed the criminal division of the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan and later spent years in private practice, joined the case more than a year ago as an unpaid “special assistant district attorney” adding extensive experience in building complex cases to an already expansive team.

On his way out, he told Bragg that any further delay in bringing a case “will doom any future prospects that Mr. Trump will be prosecuted for the criminal conduct we have been investigating.”

“I have worked too hard as a lawyer, and for too long, now to become a passive participant in what I believe to be a grave failure of justice,” Pomerantz said in his departure missive.

Last year, Trump’s longtime chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, was indicted along with the Trump Organization for allegedly engaging in a 15-year tax cheating scheme involving compensation for Weisselberg and other Trump Organization executives.

While close observers of the case raised doubts that any further charges would stem from the Trump probe, Pomerantz and his team quietly worked to solidify a case they expected Bragg would authorize once he took office on Jan. 1.

Pomerantz said Bragg was seeking additional evidence but that investigators had already done all there was to do during an inquiry spanning more than two years."

“No events are likely to occur that will alter the nature of the case or dramatically change the quality or quantity of the evidence available to the prosecution,” his letter said.
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Trump Sues Everyone Who Ever Offended Him Over 2016 Election
The former president accused Hillary Clinton of masterminding a criminal conspiracy to defame him.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker ... 6-election

The lawsuit is included in the article - but seems to be a collage of conspiracy theories about the deep state.

Trump and his lawyers are claiming a giant conspiracy theory and using RICO, they are asking for judgment awarding them compensation for violations of statues involving defamation, etc.

I am not a lawyer, but this seems like an attempt to turn what normally would be a criminal prosecution into a civil action - maybe one of the real lawyers who comment here could shed some light on this case approach.
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RedFromMI wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:26 pm

Trump Sues Everyone Who Ever Offended Him Over 2016 Election
The former president accused Hillary Clinton of masterminding a criminal conspiracy to defame him.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker ... 6-election

The lawsuit is included in the article - but seems to be a collage of conspiracy theories about the deep state.

Trump and his lawyers are claiming a giant conspiracy theory and using RICO, they are asking for judgment awarding them compensation for violations of statues involving defamation, etc.

I am not a lawyer, but this seems like an attempt to turn what normally would be a criminal prosecution into a civil action - maybe one of the real lawyers who comment here could shed some light on this case approach.
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Probably sued because they saw this ruling coming as a distraction

Judge says Trump and ally Eastman launched Jan. 6 "coup in search of a legal theory"

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A federal judge on Monday ordered John Eastman, an attorney and staunch ally to former President Trump, to turn over a cache of documents to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection.

Why it matters: Judge David Carter wrote that Eastman and Trump "launched a campaign to overturn a democratic election, an action unprecedented in American history."

The select committee sought documents from Eastman that it believed would help show that Trump and his allies "engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States," according to previous court filings for this case.
Eastman, who helped Trump during the final weeks of his presidency to develop a strategy to pressure former Vice President Mike Pence into overturning the results of the 2020 election, refused to turn over documents to the select committee, claiming that they were protected by attorney-client privilege.
Judge Carter determined that ten documents were privileged but the rest must be turned over to investigators.
"Based on the evidence, the Court finds it more likely than not that President Trump corruptly attempted to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021," Carter wrote.
What they're saying: "Their campaign was not confined to the ivory tower — it was a coup in search of a legal theory," Carter wrote.

"The plan spurred violent attacks on the seat of our nation’s government, led to the deaths of several law enforcement officers, and deepened public distrust in our political process," he added.
"More than a year after the attack on our Capitol, the public is still searching for accountability. This case cannot provide it. The Court is tasked only with deciding a dispute over a handful of emails."
"This is not a criminal prosecution; this is not even a civil liability suit. At most, this case is a warning about the dangers of 'legal theories' gone wrong, the powerful abusing public platforms, and desperation to win at all costs."
The big picture: In previous filings for this case, the select committee outlined a potential criminal case against Trump and his allies.

It claimed to have evidence that could lead to Trump, Eastman and others facing criminal violations charges, such as "obstructing an official proceeding of Congress and conspiracy to defraud the American people."
Go deeper ... Report: Texts show Ginni Thomas pushed Meadows to help overturn 2020 election
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Leader of the GOP asks the world's principal enemy for help delivering dirt on the current President:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1508966584433397766

How proud folks must be.

Oh, a postscript, with love from Moscow:

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/stat ... 0483767302
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