Progressive Ideology

[cradleandshoot]

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/retiri ... ical-turn/

Funny how the FLP chuckleheads on this forum bemoan the fact that the extremists hijacking the party is confined to FRC extremists. This retiring Democrat just burst that little bubble. Imagine that, the FLP democrats have hijacked the party!!

Kinda sounds like she is sick of being a legislator -- the basic job of which is cutting deals in the name of consensus, after having heard the various positions taken by elements of one's constituency and party, left, right, center, bizarro, etc. But suggesting that the Democratic Party is a captive of its extreme left wing is, respectfully, just laughable. Again, no comparison to the Nutcake Crew running the performance artists known as the GOP.

I disagree 100%. Both parties have been hijacked by the extremists on the R and L.

[seacoaster]

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/retiri ... ical-turn/

Funny how the FLP chuckleheads on this forum bemoan the fact that the extremists hijacking the party is confined to FRC extremists. This retiring Democrat just burst that little bubble. Imagine that, the FLP democrats have hijacked the party!!

Kinda sounds like she is sick of being a legislator -- the basic job of which is cutting deals in the name of consensus, after having heard the various positions taken by elements of one's constituency and party, left, right, center, bizarro, etc. But suggesting that the Democratic Party is a captive of its extreme left wing is, respectfully, just laughable. Again, no comparison to the Nutcake Crew running the performance artists known as the GOP.

I disagree 100%. Both parties have been hijacked by the extremists on the R and L.

Good; that means all things are normal and expected, within usual parameters. Almost spring here today; epic walk for the beagle and yard work for this old man.

[dislaxxic]

I disagree 100%. Both parties have been hijacked by the extremists on the R and L.

...and THAT belief, dear reader, encapsulates everything that is absolutely and totally WRONG with our body politic in 2022. It's 110% delusional.

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[cradleandshoot]

I disagree 100%. Both parties have been hijacked by the extremists on the R and L.

...and THAT belief, dear reader, encapsulates everything that is absolutely and totally WRONG with our body politic in 2022. It's 110% delusional.

..

It's 100% true. You just don't want to admit it.

[dislaxxic]

Stick to slingin' baloney, admit it, it's what yer best at.

..

[Peter Brown]

I disagree 100%. Both parties have been hijacked by the extremists on the R and L.

...and THAT belief, dear reader, encapsulates everything that is absolutely and totally WRONG with our body politic in 2022. It's 110% delusional.

..

It's 100% true. You just don't want to admit it.

There is no cultural issue today where Democrats haven’t landed firmly on the furthest left fringes of America.

[seacoaster]

Gosh, if only everyone could just be the same.

[cradleandshoot]

Gosh, if only everyone could just be the same.

My sister and I have fought, argued, yelled and screamed at each other over the course of 50 years. My sister was, is and always will be an extreme socialist. My sister has been my biggest advocate for many years. When I joined the army in 1979 she was furious with me. She wanted me to go to college. Despite how upset she was she drove down to Ft Benning when I graduated in August of 79 just before I went to jump school. She hated my decision but she was proud of her baby brother. From a political perspective we have been many miles apart for decades. The two of us invented political bickering long before there was a Fox news. My sister is the only close family member I have left. I love her with all my heart. It is fine for those of us to disagree. There has never been a time where our differences came between us being brother and sister. My sister is not a Democrat and I am not, nor will I ever be a Republican. If my sister and I can agree who is running both parties, that is good enough for me.

[seacoaster]

Gosh, if only everyone could just be the same.

My sister and I have fought, argued, yelled and screamed at each other over the course of 50 years. My sister was, is and always will be an extreme socialist. My sister has been my biggest advocate for many years. When I joined the army in 1979 she was furious with me. She wanted me to go to college. Despite how upset she was she drove down to Ft Benning when I graduated in August of 79 just before I went to jump school. She hated my decision but she was proud of her baby brother. From a political perspective we have been many miles apart for decades. The two of us invented political bickering long before there was a Fox news. My sister is the only close family member I have left. I love her with all my heart. It is fine for those of us to disagree. There has never been a time where our differences came between us being brother and sister. My sister is not a Democrat and I am not, nor will I ever be a Republican. If my sister and I can agree who is running both parties, that is good enough for me.

+1. Great post. Thanks.

[tech37]

seacoaster, I'm sure you're busy but when convenient (and if you care to) I'd be interested to get your opinion of this piece. As usual, I was skeptical this was just another biased article except for the number of personal account quotes from people within legal circles, who despite their political leanings, seem to substantiate.

The Takeover of America's Legal System

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-ta ... system?s=r

"Not so much anymore. Now, the politicization and tribalism of campus life have crowded out old-fashioned expectations about justice and neutrality. The imperatives of race, gender and identity are more important to more and more law students than due process, the presumption of innocence, and all the norms and values at the foundation of what we think of as the rule of law."

[Peter Brown]

seacoaster, I'm sure you're busy but when convenient (and if you care to) I'd be interested to get your opinion of this piece. As usual, I was skeptical this was just another biased article except for the number of personal account quotes from people within legal circles, who despite their political leanings, seem to substantiate.

The Takeover of America's Legal System

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-ta ... system?s=r

"Not so much anymore. Now, the politicization and tribalism of campus life have crowded out old-fashioned expectations about justice and neutrality. The imperatives of race, gender and identity are more important to more and more law students than due process, the presumption of innocence, and all the norms and values at the foundation of what we think of as the rule of law."

That’s a scary article. Of course the usual suspects here won’t read it, and if they do, they’ll minimize the woke cancer infecting wide swaths of America.

Any company prioritizing their DEI or ESG departments, or even if they have a DEI and ESG department, should be shunned. Patronize companies like Home Depot, Sheetz, Cracker Barrel, Chick Fil-a, Sturm Ruger, Cintas, Coinbase, Thomas Duff, Scottrade, Bass Pro Shops, Dicks, Caterpillar, Black Rifle Coffee, Uline, Nathan’s Famous, New Balance, Goya, New Balance, and of course, MyPillow!

[dislaxxic]

It's a dense read and i will attempt to get thru it again at some point.

First impression: yes, we can all pretty much agree that there has been a history of racism and discrimination in this country (and of course, in most others). This ironclad fact, and the follow-on fact that the phenomenon that it is being discussed academically and legally (CRT) should surprise no one, otherwise what would tend to STOP or at least, diminish its existence? Is that just too preposterous a notion to hold? ...that racism and discrimination (many times actually "baked in" to laws, regulations and day-to-day life) is just a "thing" that will always be with us?

That the response to it (any attempt to "solve" it) can get twisted and mangled and mis-represented and overly zealous and outrageous sounding in its details...should probably ALSO not come as any surprise.

Maybe we should start by asking ourselves the simple question: Is racism and institutionalized discrimination actually a THING? Sounds silly to ask it, right? Here's the thing...those that participate in racism and that support institutionalized discrimination get all huffy and indignant when their complicity is pointed out. "Prove it" they'll cry...or use the standard deflection "you always play the race card" to distract from the fact that there actually IS some racism and/or discrimination at play.

None of that is to say that those that feel that institutionalizing a response aimed at forcing racism out of our lives with "ideological manipulation of the rule of law" don't get it wrong sometimes. This author does a whole lot of liberal/progressive bashing...maybe because that side of the aisle is taking up the "how" to banish racism/discrimination from our systems. Is the Federalist Society and conservatives writ large blameless here? If there WAS systemic racism and discrimination before, is it just "too bad", nothing to be done about it?? They don't actually DENY its existence, right?

That idea sounds just as crazy to me as all the examples this author wants to use to bash liberal/progressive ideology.

..

[tech37]

It's a dense read and i will attempt to get thru it again at some point.

First impression: yes, we can all pretty much agree that there has been a history of racism and discrimination in this country (and of course, in most others). This ironclad fact, and the follow-on fact that the phenomenon that it is being discussed academically and legally (CRT) should surprise no one, otherwise what would tend to STOP or at least, diminish its existence? Is that just too preposterous a notion to hold? ...that racism and discrimination (many times actually "baked in" to laws, regulations and day-to-day life) is just a "thing" that will always be with us?

That the response to it (any attempt to "solve" it) can get twisted and mangled and mis-represented and overly zealous and outrageous sounding in its details...should probably ALSO not come as any surprise.

Maybe we should start by asking ourselves the simple question: Is racism and institutionalized discrimination actually a THING? Sounds silly to ask it, right? Here's the thing...those that participate in racism and that support institutionalized discrimination get all huffy and indignant when their complicity is pointed out. "Prove it" they'll cry...or use the standard deflection "you always play the race card" to distract from the fact that there actually IS some racism and/or discrimination at play.

None of that is to say that those that feel that institutionalizing a response aimed at forcing racism out of our lives with "ideological manipulation of the rule of law" don't get it wrong sometimes. This author does a whole lot of liberal/progressive bashing...maybe because that side of the aisle is taking up the "how" to banish racism/discrimination from our systems. Is the Federalist Society and conservatives writ large blameless here? If there WAS systemic racism and discrimination before, is it just "too bad", nothing to be done about it?? They don't actually DENY its existence, right?

That idea sounds just as crazy to me as all the examples this author wants to use to bash liberal/progressive ideology.

..

Are u seacoaster?

[Peter Brown]

seacoaster, I'm sure you're busy but when convenient (and if you care to) I'd be interested to get your opinion of this piece. As usual, I was skeptical this was just another biased article except for the number of personal account quotes from people within legal circles, who despite their political leanings, seem to substantiate.

The Takeover of America's Legal System

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-ta ... system?s=r

"Not so much anymore. Now, the politicization and tribalism of campus life have crowded out old-fashioned expectations about justice and neutrality. The imperatives of race, gender and identity are more important to more and more law students than due process, the presumption of innocence, and all the norms and values at the foundation of what we think of as the rule of law."

That’s a scary article. Of course the usual suspects here won’t read it, and if they do, they’ll minimize the woke cancer infecting wide swaths of America.

Any company prioritizing their DEI or ESG departments, or even if they have a DEI and ESG department, should be shunned. Patronize companies like Home Depot, Sheetz, Cracker Barrel, Chick Fil-a, Sturm Ruger, Cintas, Coinbase, Thomas Duff, Scottrade, Bass Pro Shops, Dicks, Caterpillar, Black Rifle Coffee, Uline, Nathan’s Famous, New Balance, Goya, New Balance, and of course, MyPillow!

More on this. A Yale Law professor is now affirming that woke Democratic lunatics are now the biggest danger to America. And she’s no conservative, that’s for sure.

Yale Law School professor Kate Stith warned that the truth has become irrelevant to the rule of law after she was criticized for trying to calm a woke mob of students who tried to close down a free speech debate.

Kate Stith, who moderated a debate between progressive and conservative guest speakers on March 10 and yelled at students to 'grow up' when they protested the latter guest, said the students hurled abuse at her for trying to stop the chaos.

You know what’s equally depressing to the fact that our law schools have become communist breeding grounds? Men are now afraid to speak the truth, so it’s left to women like Professor Stith to call out the insanity. Amazing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... aw-US.html

[cradleandshoot]

It's a dense read and i will attempt to get thru it again at some point.

First impression: yes, we can all pretty much agree that there has been a history of racism and discrimination in this country (and of course, in most others). This ironclad fact, and the follow-on fact that the phenomenon that it is being discussed academically and legally (CRT) should surprise no one, otherwise what would tend to STOP or at least, diminish its existence? Is that just too preposterous a notion to hold? ...that racism and discrimination (many times actually "baked in" to laws, regulations and day-to-day life) is just a "thing" that will always be with us?

That the response to it (any attempt to "solve" it) can get twisted and mangled and mis-represented and overly zealous and outrageous sounding in its details...should probably ALSO not come as any surprise.

Maybe we should start by asking ourselves the simple question: Is racism and institutionalized discrimination actually a THING? Sounds silly to ask it, right? Here's the thing...those that participate in racism and that support institutionalized discrimination get all huffy and indignant when their complicity is pointed out. "Prove it" they'll cry...or use the standard deflection "you always play the race card" to distract from the fact that there actually IS some racism and/or discrimination at play.

None of that is to say that those that feel that institutionalizing a response aimed at forcing racism out of our lives with "ideological manipulation of the rule of law" don't get it wrong sometimes. This author does a whole lot of liberal/progressive bashing...maybe because that side of the aisle is taking up the "how" to banish racism/discrimination from our systems. Is the Federalist Society and conservatives writ large blameless here? If there WAS systemic racism and discrimination before, is it just "too bad", nothing to be done about it?? They don't actually DENY its existence, right?

That idea sounds just as crazy to me as all the examples this author wants to use to bash liberal/progressive ideology.

..

Are u seacoaster?

I don't think so.

[tech37]

It's a dense read and i will attempt to get thru it again at some point.

First impression: yes, we can all pretty much agree that there has been a history of racism and discrimination in this country (and of course, in most others). This ironclad fact, and the follow-on fact that the phenomenon that it is being discussed academically and legally (CRT) should surprise no one, otherwise what would tend to STOP or at least, diminish its existence? Is that just too preposterous a notion to hold? ...that racism and discrimination (many times actually "baked in" to laws, regulations and day-to-day life) is just a "thing" that will always be with us?

That the response to it (any attempt to "solve" it) can get twisted and mangled and mis-represented and overly zealous and outrageous sounding in its details...should probably ALSO not come as any surprise.

Maybe we should start by asking ourselves the simple question: Is racism and institutionalized discrimination actually a THING? Sounds silly to ask it, right? Here's the thing...those that participate in racism and that support institutionalized discrimination get all huffy and indignant when their complicity is pointed out. "Prove it" they'll cry...or use the standard deflection "you always play the race card" to distract from the fact that there actually IS some racism and/or discrimination at play.

None of that is to say that those that feel that institutionalizing a response aimed at forcing racism out of our lives with "ideological manipulation of the rule of law" don't get it wrong sometimes. This author does a whole lot of liberal/progressive bashing...maybe because that side of the aisle is taking up the "how" to banish racism/discrimination from our systems. Is the Federalist Society and conservatives writ large blameless here? If there WAS systemic racism and discrimination before, is it just "too bad", nothing to be done about it?? They don't actually DENY its existence, right?

That idea sounds just as crazy to me as all the examples this author wants to use to bash liberal/progressive ideology.

..

Are u seacoaster?

I don't think so.

I hope not.

[jhu72]

seacoaster, I'm sure you're busy but when convenient (and if you care to) I'd be interested to get your opinion of this piece. As usual, I was skeptical this was just another biased article except for the number of personal account quotes from people within legal circles, who despite their political leanings, seem to substantiate.

The Takeover of America's Legal System

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-ta ... system?s=r

"Not so much anymore. Now, the politicization and tribalism of campus life have crowded out old-fashioned expectations about justice and neutrality. The imperatives of race, gender and identity are more important to more and more law students than due process, the presumption of innocence, and all the norms and values at the foundation of what we think of as the rule of law."

That’s a scary article. Of course the usual suspects here won’t read it, and if they do, they’ll minimize the woke cancer infecting wide swaths of America.

Any company prioritizing their DEI or ESG departments, or even if they have a DEI and ESG department, should be shunned. Patronize companies like Home Depot, Sheetz, Cracker Barrel, Chick Fil-a, Sturm Ruger, Cintas, Coinbase, Thomas Duff, Scottrade, Bass Pro Shops, Dicks, Caterpillar, Black Rifle Coffee, Uline, Nathan’s Famous, New Balance, Goya, New Balance, and of course, MyPillow!

... more dumbassary! Home Depot has an ESG program, that they advertise to customers and investors. ESG's are not departments! They are company wide programs / processes implemented across departments. Just pulling it out of your ass as usual.

Home Depot ESG Report fpr 2021

[cradleandshoot]

It's a dense read and i will attempt to get thru it again at some point.

First impression: yes, we can all pretty much agree that there has been a history of racism and discrimination in this country (and of course, in most others). This ironclad fact, and the follow-on fact that the phenomenon that it is being discussed academically and legally (CRT) should surprise no one, otherwise what would tend to STOP or at least, diminish its existence? Is that just too preposterous a notion to hold? ...that racism and discrimination (many times actually "baked in" to laws, regulations and day-to-day life) is just a "thing" that will always be with us?

That the response to it (any attempt to "solve" it) can get twisted and mangled and mis-represented and overly zealous and outrageous sounding in its details...should probably ALSO not come as any surprise.

Maybe we should start by asking ourselves the simple question: Is racism and institutionalized discrimination actually a THING? Sounds silly to ask it, right? Here's the thing...those that participate in racism and that support institutionalized discrimination get all huffy and indignant when their complicity is pointed out. "Prove it" they'll cry...or use the standard deflection "you always play the race card" to distract from the fact that there actually IS some racism and/or discrimination at play.

None of that is to say that those that feel that institutionalizing a response aimed at forcing racism out of our lives with "ideological manipulation of the rule of law" don't get it wrong sometimes. This author does a whole lot of liberal/progressive bashing...maybe because that side of the aisle is taking up the "how" to banish racism/discrimination from our systems. Is the Federalist Society and conservatives writ large blameless here? If there WAS systemic racism and discrimination before, is it just "too bad", nothing to be done about it?? They don't actually DENY its existence, right?

That idea sounds just as crazy to me as all the examples this author wants to use to bash liberal/progressive ideology.

..

Are u seacoaster?

I don't think so.

I hope not.

[kramerica.inc]

seacoaster, I'm sure you're busy but when convenient (and if you care to) I'd be interested to get your opinion of this piece. As usual, I was skeptical this was just another biased article except for the number of personal account quotes from people within legal circles, who despite their political leanings, seem to substantiate.

The Takeover of America's Legal System

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-ta ... system?s=r

"Not so much anymore. Now, the politicization and tribalism of campus life have crowded out old-fashioned expectations about justice and neutrality. The imperatives of race, gender and identity are more important to more and more law students than due process, the presumption of innocence, and all the norms and values at the foundation of what we think of as the rule of law."

That’s a scary article. Of course the usual suspects here won’t read it, and if they do, they’ll minimize the woke cancer infecting wide swaths of America.

Any company prioritizing their DEI or ESG departments, or even if they have a DEI and ESG department, should be shunned. Patronize companies like Home Depot, Sheetz, Cracker Barrel, Chick Fil-a, Sturm Ruger, Cintas, Coinbase, Thomas Duff, Scottrade, Bass Pro Shops, Dicks, Caterpillar, Black Rifle Coffee, Uline, Nathan’s Famous, New Balance, Goya, New Balance, and of course, MyPillow!

... more dumbassary! Home Depot has an ESG program, that they advertise to customers and investors. ESG's are not departments! They are company wide programs / processes implemented across departments. Just pulling it out of your ass as usual.

Home Depot ESG Report fpr 2021

It's all marketing. If you think this is a priority for many of these companies I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. These companies have one guy who counts LED lightbulbs and writes a report each year. It's worth the price of his overhead salary to show "we're trying!" and stay off the woke mob's hit list.

[Peter Brown]

seacoaster, I'm sure you're busy but when convenient (and if you care to) I'd be interested to get your opinion of this piece. As usual, I was skeptical this was just another biased article except for the number of personal account quotes from people within legal circles, who despite their political leanings, seem to substantiate.

The Takeover of America's Legal System

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-ta ... system?s=r

"Not so much anymore. Now, the politicization and tribalism of campus life have crowded out old-fashioned expectations about justice and neutrality. The imperatives of race, gender and identity are more important to more and more law students than due process, the presumption of innocence, and all the norms and values at the foundation of what we think of as the rule of law."

That’s a scary article. Of course the usual suspects here won’t read it, and if they do, they’ll minimize the woke cancer infecting wide swaths of America.

Any company prioritizing their DEI or ESG departments, or even if they have a DEI and ESG department, should be shunned. Patronize companies like Home Depot, Sheetz, Cracker Barrel, Chick Fil-a, Sturm Ruger, Cintas, Coinbase, Thomas Duff, Scottrade, Bass Pro Shops, Dicks, Caterpillar, Black Rifle Coffee, Uline, Nathan’s Famous, New Balance, Goya, New Balance, and of course, MyPillow!

... more dumbassary! Home Depot has an ESG program, that they advertise to customers and investors. ESG's are not departments! They are company wide programs / processes implemented across departments. Just pulling it out of your ass as usual.

Home Depot ESG Report fpr 2021

It's all marketing. If you think this is a priority for many of these companies I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. These companies have one guy who counts LED lightbulbs and writes a report each year. It's worth the price of his overhead salary to show "we're trying!" and stay off the woke mob's hit list.

+1

Also, Home Depot goes on the ‘approved’ list strictly because both Bernie Marcus and Ken Langone (2 of the 3 founders) are very conservative patriotic Americans.