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Can't be many years where we've beaten loyola and syracuse at home in the same year in regulation. Also it was nice to see none of the orange took the buddy boeheim boxing class.

First mention of the fan who shall remain nameless so far. His tv time has been tko'd-an espn production decision straight to 51's heart.

PM said earlier this year he doesn't support mid week games because it takes away from kids class time. Coaches are just trained differently in the ivies.

51 if you'd recall I gave marr and williams a lot of heat for their penalties and it's one of those things that if you're winning you can live with.

Lyne looked like he played yesterday but blake rodgers/jennings were 1/2 at lsm I think and they repeatedly said mcnanus is now the top defender. Not sure what the story is there. For Rodgers and McManus especially that's a lot of growth.
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jhu06 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:55 pm First mention of the fan who shall remain nameless so far. His tv time has been tko'd-an espn production decision straight to 51's heart.
I can't imagine he took the McManus push and the Epstein conduct call with good grace but maybe he's mellowed.
jhu06 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:55 pm 51 if you'd recall I gave marr and williams a lot of heat for their penalties and it's one of those things that if you're winning you can live with.
Disagree - that call could have turned the game around - it gave Curry a successful shot when he had not seen anything go right (would not have been that open either in a 6v5 situation) and we went back to the face-off dot still facing a man down when Syracuse - the worst in the ACC - had already scored on 2 EMOs in under 30 seconds. And what a crap show that face-off was - if Cuse had tied it at 7 - we might be discussing that call in a much different light. All for fiery leadership and caring and hating to lose but you can't do that. If he wants to fire the team up - get a ground ball and take somebody to the rack and score.
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HopFan16 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:31 pm Here you go 06, here is your Super Bowl: https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/ ... o-homewood
Was that Joey Epstein throwing some shade?

I don't remember Cuse's colors being burnt orange. Spicy.
“I don’t think he looks too good in burnt orange.”
— Joey Epstein
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Gatsby wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:44 pm
HopFan16 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:31 pm Here you go 06, here is your Super Bowl: https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/ ... o-homewood
Was that Joey Epstein throwing some shade?

I don't remember Cuse's colors being burnt orange. Spicy.
“I don’t think he looks too good in burnt orange.”
— Joey Epstein
Happy to hear Petro took his team to the new Sammy’s. At least some things don’t change.

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51percentcorn wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:42 pm
jhu06 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:55 pm First mention of the fan who shall remain nameless so far. His tv time has been tko'd-an espn production decision straight to 51's heart.
I can't imagine he took the McManus push and the Epstein conduct call with good grace but maybe he's mellowed.
jhu06 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:55 pm 51 if you'd recall I gave marr and williams a lot of heat for their penalties and it's one of those things that if you're winning you can live with.
Disagree - that call could have turned the game around - it gave Curry a successful shot when he had not seen anything go right (would not have been that open either in a 6v5 situation) and we went back to the face-off dot still facing a man down when Syracuse - the worst in the ACC - had already scored on 2 EMOs in under 30 seconds. And what a crap show that face-off was - if Cuse had tied it at 7 - we might be discussing that call in a much different light. All for fiery leadership and caring and hating to lose but you can't do that. If he wants to fire the team up - get a ground ball and take somebody to the rack and score.

Epstein's not the reason we're "searching for an offensive identity" with 2/3 of an attack and a first midfield that have played together for 2+years, can't clear, lack fogo depth, struggle against aggressive rides, didn't have a 3rd attack option ready to replace a player in williams who initially signaled 2 years ago he was gone and were beaten into submission twice on the road against a conference our b1g rivals have otherwise handled.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... kend/59126
It amounted to a Blue Jay defense that got stops on 29 of 36 possessions; extended over the season, that’d be the fourth-most efficient defense (unadjusted for SOS) in college lacrosse. The Blue Jays came in 60th in unadjusted defensive efficiency, giving up goals on 32.3% of possessions. It was aided by some stagnant Syracuse O, but I saw some plays from Owen McManus, Beaudan Szuluk, Jake Lilly, Scott Smith, Blake Rodgers and Brett Martin that showcased the manic fervency necessary to effectively play defense at this level.
That kind of stuff will drive syracuse nuts all offseason.
https://laxallstars.com/quint-kessenich ... h-14-2022/
Quint says narewski is practicing and close to return.
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jhu06 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:12 pm
51percentcorn wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:42 pm
jhu06 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:55 pm First mention of the fan who shall remain nameless so far. His tv time has been tko'd-an espn production decision straight to 51's heart.
I can't imagine he took the McManus push and the Epstein conduct call with good grace but maybe he's mellowed.
jhu06 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:55 pm 51 if you'd recall I gave marr and williams a lot of heat for their penalties and it's one of those things that if you're winning you can live with.
Disagree - that call could have turned the game around - it gave Curry a successful shot when he had not seen anything go right (would not have been that open either in a 6v5 situation) and we went back to the face-off dot still facing a man down when Syracuse - the worst in the ACC - had already scored on 2 EMOs in under 30 seconds. And what a crap show that face-off was - if Cuse had tied it at 7 - we might be discussing that call in a much different light. All for fiery leadership and caring and hating to lose but you can't do that. If he wants to fire the team up - get a ground ball and take somebody to the rack and score.

Epstein's not the reason we're "searching for an offensive identity" with 2/3 of an attack and a first midfield that have played together for 2+years, can't clear, lack fogo depth, struggle against aggressive rides, didn't have a 3rd attack option ready to replace a player in williams who initially signaled 2 years ago he was gone and were beaten into submission twice on the road against a conference our b1g rivals have otherwise handled.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... kend/59126
It amounted to a Blue Jay defense that got stops on 29 of 36 possessions; extended over the season, that’d be the fourth-most efficient defense (unadjusted for SOS) in college lacrosse. The Blue Jays came in 60th in unadjusted defensive efficiency, giving up goals on 32.3% of possessions. It was aided by some stagnant Syracuse O, but I saw some plays from Owen McManus, Beaudan Szuluk, Jake Lilly, Scott Smith, Blake Rodgers and Brett Martin that showcased the manic fervency necessary to effectively play defense at this level.
That kind of stuff will drive syracuse nuts all offseason.
https://laxallstars.com/quint-kessenich ... h-14-2022/
Quint says narewski is practicing and close to return.
Got to hand it to Quint … he properly ranked Johns Hopkins ahead of Duke.

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I like Milliman's press conference.
He's a straight shooter. Doesn't make excuses.
Hope we see Narewski soon.
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jhu06 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:12 pm Epstein's not the reason we're "searching for an offensive identity" with 2/3 of an attack and a first midfield that have played together for 2+years, can't clear, lack fogo depth, struggle against aggressive rides, didn't have a 3rd attack option ready to replace a player in williams who initially signaled 2 years ago he was gone and were beaten into submission twice on the road against a conference our b1g rivals have otherwise handled.
Well -he's half of the 2/3rds of this attack your referencing but he's not a reason? That's ridiculous. His shot percentage is slightly down from last year (down 7 or so points from freshman year) - turnovers are up - he has 5 more turnovers than the X attackman - the only stat that's on the uptick is ground balls. Look, I am a fan of his - I know how much he cares and hates to lose - but a) either the knee injury or the switch to a wing type shooter or both have affected his play and b) because he cares so much sometimes he tries to do too much. BTW - all I was pointing out was that an unsportsmanlike that could have altered the trejectory of the game is not forgiveable or ignored because you won the game. He's a captain and he needs to do what's best for the team - calling a ref a name does nothing for the team.

Clearing - I'm certainly not blaming Epstein for clears but he is on the field during clears isn't he? I understand that a strategy for the attack during a clear is to take the close defense down toward the goal so as to not clutter the middle of the field and put more 6 ft poles in the way but I have seen other attacks play roles in clears

FOGO depth - You lost your #1 guy - do you think if UVA lost Lasalla - game in and game out they would be at 63% - guess what the answer is NO - Dunn has done an admirable job - the team actually kept Prouty - at one time 18th in the nation in winning percentage but I guess cannot deal with the new rules as he has only taken 12 face-offs and won 5. Do you recall that in '18 he was the #77 ranked player by IL???

Struggle against aggressive rides - last time I checked that was clearing

Don't have a third attack option to replace Williams - well Petro thought he did have one - a Top 5 left handed recruit in Grimes - is it Milliman's fault he's missed more than half the games? - he's still #6 in the score sheet BTW - What is supposed to happen? Milliman dug up a recruit at the last minute - Charboneau - is it unreasonable to think he needs time?

Against a conference our rivals have handled? That's two teams - Ohio State and Maryland - and of the 5 BIG wins over the ACC - 4 of them have come against Notre Dame (struggling) and Syracuse (struggling) - only the OSU rout of UNC stands out. Maryland may very well beat Virginia this weekend but who cares - it only matters winning 4 games in a row in May.
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HopFan16 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:42 pm
Catbird wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:55 am Seems like as smart people we should be able to hold two thoughts in our head at the same time. I'm both thankful for Petro's time leading the program, and also thankful we have some new blood. Very confident in Coach M. Yesterday was bittersweet. I want to see the guy succeed, but not wearing Orange. :lol:

Atleast they have one guy out there coaching on gameday. Gait looked like he was thinking about whether he should re-wear his suit out to Getrude's later.
Gait's coaching style (or lack thereof?) is super interesting to me. I get that his reputation is to "roll the ball out and go play" and not to over-coach, which is great and can work very well, but I think he's really testing the limits of that strategy. If you were unfamiliar with that team and just watched the Cuse sideline, there is no way you'd know Gait was the head coach. He looks more like the trainer or an overdressed DOLO. Cuse fans are probably unbothered by it but if that were my coach, and we were losing games, it'd probably rub me the wrong way. You can be a "hands off" coach but still look like you're emotionally invested.

Agree 100% about Petro. I won't root for the Orange ever but I will be rooting for him personally, no matter what colors he wears, for as long as he's coaching.
Re: Gait, his coaching "approach" during games is unlike anything I've seen. I'm surprised it is not getting more attention. He just wanders around in his nice clothes, that's it. Petro runs the huddles (including the post-game huddle; not sure I've ever seen a HC not even in the post-game huddle). Who knows what happens in practice but during games it is unclear exactly what Gait is doing. I got heat about Cuse going with the wrong alumnus (Galloway being a better choice, IMO), but I'm not sure I've seen anything to change that opinion. Cuse has to hope this doesn't turn out like Ewing's return to Georgetown basketball.
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Sagittarius A* wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:30 am I like Milliman's press conference.
He's a straight shooter. Doesn't make excuses.
You didn't like him much when he shot about Epstein last year if I recall. I think we were supposed to go picket Jens office?

I don't know if there is a more complete clip than the 2 minutes on jhusports.com but he said 2 things there:
- Shortsticks played well
- Doesn't mind getting outshot if the offense is efficient

Not exactly mind blowing - I have no problem with either observation

So I am not sure what the straight shooting was. Straight shooting IMO would have been more recognition that clearing looked like a junior varsity practicing against a varsity and Syracuse didn't shoot particularly well and that if you continue to have the same number of turnovers as shots on goal you will not be successful.

A few posts have been made about Junior as the OC. I think the jury is still out but one observation - Hopkins is averaging almost exactly 11 gpg (76 goals in 7 games). In shortened 2020 Hopkins was averaging 10.5 and in '19 they were almost exactly 12. Obviously team compositions are different from year to year but several of the same players. Throw in the inability to clear and turnovers and decreased face-off production and I think you have fairly similar performance. In addition, Benson goes to maryland and they put video game numbers. Seems to me right now at least the conclusion is this has more to do with the braves than the chiefs. The chiefs should not be absolved of the clearing and turnover issues - but play design and offensive concepts are way down the list of problems.

Re: Gait - he certainly takes laissez faire and hands off to a high level. His post game presser - where it is arguable that his team vastly outplayed the opponent and yet lost by 3 - was as calm as a coach can be. DP @ Hopkins would have been beside himself. Hindsight plays a role here - though - if they were winning - everybody would be pointing to the benefits of "rolling out the ball" and "letting the boys play". Now... different story so far. Spallina and others are showing up - so he'll have more braves in the future.
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51percentcorn wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:41 am
Sagittarius A* wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:30 am I like Milliman's press conference.
He's a straight shooter. Doesn't make excuses.
You didn't like him much when he shot about Epstein last year if I recall. I think we were supposed to go picket Jens office?
I had an issue with him calling a player out by name in the press. So did just about everyone else as I recall.
While the venerable Chic might yell at players in practice, he was complimentary in the press about individual players.
In this post I was contrasting him with the previous coaches double-speak-say-nothing style.
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Junior has done fine with what he's got to work with. The offense has barely had the ball the last few weeks, and on top of that has now lost a starting attackman in the midst of a breakout season. Getting Peshko going could go a long way — that's another big body who can shoot. McDermott starting to chip in like he did at the end of last season would help a lot but he too is not 100%. DeSo has had some brutal matchups as of late against Bowen, Kastner, and Kennedy — sledding shouldn't be quite as tough for him in theory.

Again, it needs to be pointed out, we have faced the toughest schedule in the nation so far. We haven't gotten to pad stats against Bellarmine, Canisius, Detroit Mercy, and St. John's like some of our Big Ten pals have.

Navy has struggled somewhat this year but we know they play tough D and the 2022 stats support that. The next two games hopefully(?) we should be a bit more competitive at the faceoff dot which could help the offense find its rhythm. They *looked* pretty good moving the ball and finishing to my eye against Cuse, just didn't have the ball much.
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Sounded to me like he's learning the double speak - some gobble de gook about buying into an identity that he didn't bother to elaborate as to what that was - saying he didn't need the team to be a volume shooting team - what's so revelatory about that?

I noticed he's also stopped his mailing list updates - last one I got was 12/30

BTW - I don't have an issue with any of it - just can't find the straight shooting you are
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https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/ ... o-homewood

“We haven’t had the most success so far on the offensive end this season, but we’re building an identity that guys are committing to,” Johns Hopkins second-year coach Peter Milliman said. “I don’t have that much of an issue if we get outshot by 25, as long as we’re doing our job as a group.”

Sounds like straight shooting to me.
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Scott Smith wins B1G Defensive Player of the Week for his 2 CTS and 2 GBs and holding Brendan Curry pointless in 6v6 (he had 1 EMO goal)

Kirson wins B1G Specialist of the Week — our first since 2019. Lol

https://bigten.org/news/2022/3/15/johns ... onors.aspx
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51percentcorn wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:19 pm Sounded to me like he's learning the double speak - some gobble de gook about buying into an identity that he didn't bother to elaborate as to what that was - saying he didn't need the team to be a volume shooting team - what's so revelatory about that?

I noticed he's also stopped his mailing list updates - last one I got was 12/30

BTW - I don't have an issue with any of it - just can't find the straight shooting you are
Let’s hope Navy and Delaware hit the cage 8 times this weekend as Syracuse did, otherwise we might be 0-2 for this coming weekend.
Side note: Did Petro rub you wrong somehow on a personal level??
Really have an axe to grind with the guy.
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Mightyjoe wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:41 pm Let’s hope Navy and Delaware hit the cage 8 times this weekend as Syracuse did, otherwise we might be 0-2 for this coming weekend.
Side note: Did Petro rub you wrong somehow on a personal level??
Really have an axe to grind with the guy.
I think you must be referring to the wrong guy - I criticized Petro for one main thing and I think it helped lead to his downfall - early recruiting. Otherwise in the tank for the guy. Can't imagine what you are referring to
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Sagittarius A* wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:56 pm We haven’t had the most success so far on the offensive end this season, but we’re building an identity that guys are committing to,” Johns Hopkins second-year coach Peter Milliman said. “I don’t have that much of an issue if we get outshot by 25, as long as we’re doing our job as a group.”
OK - that's exactly the quote from the press conference I was referring to. What does the first sentence even mean and what is that identity? The second quote - pretty easy to say after you won getting outshot by 25 but how is that straight shooting? Straight shooting is making uncomfortable but true observations that people need to hear. Straight shooting to me would be the following:
"From an overall perspective we did not play well. We lost too many face-offs, too many contested ground balls and we had the same number of turnovers as shots on goal. We had 8 failed clears - that is unacceptable and we cannot expect our close defense and goalie to bail us out every time. We had decent offensive efficency but 21 turnovers denied us the opportunity to exploit that efficency - that is my responsibility to get these players ready to hande those issues."

That would be straight shooting.
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51%

Again you talk about things you are uninformed about and try and present them as fact. Very nice.

I believe i am the one who introduced and explained the conditional acceptances on early admissions. Seems to me you ranted about it and not being able to predict so far ahead. I also spent time describing academic exceptions and how they worked.

In the event if you really knew anything first hand you would not have been do wrong so often

Normally i don’t bring personal matters into this kind if steaming pile you have created but just this once. I served on the Board of Blue Jays Unlimited, I was one of the firsf five or so to join Hopkins Hundreds when it begsn amd from the mid 1990s i was in the Athletic Center frequently. I was in the building the day after it was “reported”. I was there.

Pull up a chair snd listen instead of trying to feed your inductively reasoned agenda
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The day after "What" was reported? I WAS THERE. Who are you? Walter Cronkite? You continue to speak in riddles wrapped in enigmas complicated further by poor spelling.
You contribute ZERO to the discussion of the team - your sole purpose these days is to remind people who you know and to blame everything
on the current administration (+ Shanahan).
You asked a question - does Hopkins still have reduced athletic standards for the D1 players? It was answered by many - some thought you were being sarcastic by asking because the answer is so obvious - I tried to offer an example of recent fairly factual outcomes (you can argue absolute numbers but you can't argue that most of the named Petro early recruits who were in 9th and 10th grade showed up)

So you STFU

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