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This cat is one of the up-and-comers of the modern Republican Party

Stolen Valor - lied about getting into the Naval Academy. Admitted to lying under oath during a lawsuit he was implicated in. link - link 2

Sexual Assault - Spent one semester in college at one of the most right-wing colleges in America. Dropped out to having straight D's (his words).
Accused of sexual assaulting at least a dozen women. Half the student body (over 150 people) signed a letter and corroborated the victims' accounts. RAs and staff would warn women not to be alone with him. link

Guy's into White Supremacy, lied about getting into Harvard and Princeton, lied about Paralympics training, lied about his career, lied about his "heroic" car crash rescue, illegally brought a weapon to a school board meeting, Federal Ethics complaint after harassing a fellow Republican (his apology letter has to be seen to be believed ), recently caught driving with a revoked license for the 2nd time, his own story on how he met his wife via Russia is super weird and shady. And oh yeah, that wife divorced him only 8 months later, when he constantly decries how the left and LGBT the community is destroying the nuclear family. The National Review called him a disappointment

Oh yeah, check him out fighting a dead tree, it's amazing:




I wonder if he gets his outfits from a 80 year old Hugo Boss line...

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Inspiring, right?

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1501945269256011795

What's more relevant than a bunch of folks driving their big trucks around complaining about the price of gas. The GOP's commitment to policy is just "breathtaking."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGQVYW9cMNE
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seacoaster wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:30 am Inspiring, right?

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1501945269256011795

What's more relevant than a bunch of folks driving their big trucks around complaining about the price of gas. The GOP's commitment to policy is just "breathtaking."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGQVYW9cMNE


You want policy? I don’t really think you do, but let’s do it.

Here are the 11 Points you should familiarize yourself with:

https://rescueamerica.com/11-point-plan/
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Turkey Waddle dumped on Scott's plan the minute it appeared.

But by all means...let's take a closer look at Scott's screed...

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From an Orlando Weekly article after Scott proposed this insane plan:
Rick Scott’s ‘11 Point Plan to Rescue America’ is so insane it’s basically a gift to the Democrats
By Jeffrey C. Billman @jeffreybillman

Mitch McConnell knows how to win the midterm: Oppose everything Joe Biden does, blame him for anything that goes wrong, but never lay out an agenda that turns the election into a choice rather than a referendum.

Last week, however, Sen. Rick Scott — a billionaire Medicare scammer who scammed Floridians into narrowly electing him governor twice and senator once, and who is in charge of electing Republicans to the Senate — threw a wrench into the machine with his “11 Point Plan to Rescue America,” a manifesto that mixes Newt Gingrich’s kick-the-poor ’90s with Trumpian authoritarianism, white Christian nationalism, overt attacks on voting rights, economic and constitutional illiteracy, and a Mack truck full of gaslighting.

The 11 points speak for themselves:
  • Turn schools into patriotism factories where kids are forced to say the Pledge of Allegiance (unconstitutional) and teachers can get fired for making white children uncomfortable (i.e., “critical race theory”). Then again, none of that will matter after they close the Department of Education and implement a voucher program that ghettoizes public schools and routes billions of tax dollars to unregulated religious institutions.
End diversity training “or any woke ideological indoctrination” in the military — “woke” is Scott’s new favorite word — cut off funding for universities that try to diversify their student bodies, and proclaim as a point of fact that the nation is colorblind (the last 400 years never happened).
  • Impose more draconian sentences for violent and nonviolent crime, and expand qualified immunity so that cops can even more easily abuse their authority with impunity. Blue lives matter, etc.
  • “We will secure our border, finish building the wall, and name it after President Donald Trump.”
  • Give the president a line-item veto (not only unconstitutional, but it would render Congress irrelevant), prohibit debt ceiling increases (calamitous), tax poor and retired people (everyone should have “skin in the game”) and whatever “Socialism will be treated as a foreign combatant” means.
  • Enact term limits for members of Congress and civil servants (unconstitutional and will empower lobbyists), move government agencies out of Washington and “into the real world” (expensive), and cut IRS funding in half (presumably so Scott’s pals can get away with tax fraud).
  • Ban same-day and automatic voter registration (because fraud, or whatever), unmanned collection boxes and public campaign financing (“No serious person would ever favor this,” says the billionaire), and don’t count absentee ballots that arrive after Election Day. But voter ID will be mandatory, of course.
  • Ban abortion, ban porn, give tax breaks to “nuclear families” and allow faith-based groups to discriminate against whomever they like.
  • God says trans people aren’t real, so doctors should be banned from treating trans children and trans men should be banned from women’s sports — which the party that just a few years ago ridiculed Title IX now finds sacred. (Strange, that.) Also, “no government forms will include questions about ‘gender identity’ or ‘sexual preference.’”
  • Ban Facebook and Twitter from banning users for hate speech or spreading misinformation (unconstitutional), “reject both the roots and the adherents of cancel culture in America,” and “stop investing federal retirement dollars with ‘woke’ fund managers and companies that put left-wing politics ahead of profits” (“woke” means clean energy, I presume).
  • Stop participating in peacekeeping missions, end imports from China (only $435 billion a year), “take climate change seriously but not hysterically” (i.e., do nothing) and “treat our enemies like enemies.”
There is the Republican plan to “rescue” the country, which was humming along fine until Jan. 20, 2021.

Most of it isn’t new, per se. What’s new is Scott’s attempt to marry the party’s anti-tax, pro-austerity wing with Trump’s populist, authoritarian wing. On the surface, that seems dubious. To the degree Trump had a policy outlook more sophisticated than “Build the Wall,” it was that he promised everything to everyone — cut taxes and increase spending and cut the deficit — and pretended he never made those promises when they became inconvenient.

Scott, however, wants to reframe the oligarchical (read: deeply unpopular) aspects of the GOP agenda as an extension of the culture wars: The “woke” left is sending your money to “undeserving” others; you don’t have to squint to see the racial subtext. From start to finish, this is an authoritarian document dressed up in the language of freedom. Like all variants of right-wing populism, it focuses the grievances of its target demo (a loss of cultural primacy) at scapegoats (the wokes).
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RedFromMI wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:45 pm From an Orlando Weekly article after Scott proposed this insane plan:
Rick Scott’s ‘11 Point Plan to Rescue America’ is so insane it’s basically a gift to the Democrats
By Jeffrey C. Billman @jeffreybillman

Mitch McConnell knows how to win the midterm: Oppose everything Joe Biden does, blame him for anything that goes wrong, but never lay out an agenda that turns the election into a choice rather than a referendum.

Last week, however, Sen. Rick Scott — a billionaire Medicare scammer who scammed Floridians into narrowly electing him governor twice and senator once, and who is in charge of electing Republicans to the Senate — threw a wrench into the machine with his “11 Point Plan to Rescue America,” a manifesto that mixes Newt Gingrich’s kick-the-poor ’90s with Trumpian authoritarianism, white Christian nationalism, overt attacks on voting rights, economic and constitutional illiteracy, and a Mack truck full of gaslighting.

The 11 points speak for themselves:
  • Turn schools into patriotism factories where kids are forced to say the Pledge of Allegiance (unconstitutional) and teachers can get fired for making white children uncomfortable (i.e., “critical race theory”). Then again, none of that will matter after they close the Department of Education and implement a voucher program that ghettoizes public schools and routes billions of tax dollars to unregulated religious institutions.
End diversity training “or any woke ideological indoctrination” in the military — “woke” is Scott’s new favorite word — cut off funding for universities that try to diversify their student bodies, and proclaim as a point of fact that the nation is colorblind (the last 400 years never happened).
  • Impose more draconian sentences for violent and nonviolent crime, and expand qualified immunity so that cops can even more easily abuse their authority with impunity. Blue lives matter, etc.
  • “We will secure our border, finish building the wall, and name it after President Donald Trump.”
  • Give the president a line-item veto (not only unconstitutional, but it would render Congress irrelevant), prohibit debt ceiling increases (calamitous), tax poor and retired people (everyone should have “skin in the game”) and whatever “Socialism will be treated as a foreign combatant” means.
  • Enact term limits for members of Congress and civil servants (unconstitutional and will empower lobbyists), move government agencies out of Washington and “into the real world” (expensive), and cut IRS funding in half (presumably so Scott’s pals can get away with tax fraud).
  • Ban same-day and automatic voter registration (because fraud, or whatever), unmanned collection boxes and public campaign financing (“No serious person would ever favor this,” says the billionaire), and don’t count absentee ballots that arrive after Election Day. But voter ID will be mandatory, of course.
  • Ban abortion, ban porn, give tax breaks to “nuclear families” and allow faith-based groups to discriminate against whomever they like.
  • God says trans people aren’t real, so doctors should be banned from treating trans children and trans men should be banned from women’s sports — which the party that just a few years ago ridiculed Title IX now finds sacred. (Strange, that.) Also, “no government forms will include questions about ‘gender identity’ or ‘sexual preference.’”
  • Ban Facebook and Twitter from banning users for hate speech or spreading misinformation (unconstitutional), “reject both the roots and the adherents of cancel culture in America,” and “stop investing federal retirement dollars with ‘woke’ fund managers and companies that put left-wing politics ahead of profits” (“woke” means clean energy, I presume).
  • Stop participating in peacekeeping missions, end imports from China (only $435 billion a year), “take climate change seriously but not hysterically” (i.e., do nothing) and “treat our enemies like enemies.”
There is the Republican plan to “rescue” the country, which was humming along fine until Jan. 20, 2021.

Most of it isn’t new, per se. What’s new is Scott’s attempt to marry the party’s anti-tax, pro-austerity wing with Trump’s populist, authoritarian wing. On the surface, that seems dubious. To the degree Trump had a policy outlook more sophisticated than “Build the Wall,” it was that he promised everything to everyone — cut taxes and increase spending and cut the deficit — and pretended he never made those promises when they became inconvenient.

Scott, however, wants to reframe the oligarchical (read: deeply unpopular) aspects of the GOP agenda as an extension of the culture wars: The “woke” left is sending your money to “undeserving” others; you don’t have to squint to see the racial subtext. From start to finish, this is an authoritarian document dressed up in the language of freedom. Like all variants of right-wing populism, it focuses the grievances of its target demo (a loss of cultural primacy) at scapegoats (the wokes).
... this "plan" isn't new. Dumbass Scott released these talking points a month ago and has been taking heat from McConnell since.
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dislaxxic wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:29 pm Turkey Waddle dumped on Scott's plan the minute it appeared.

But by all means...let's take a closer look at Scott's screed...

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It’s very popular with the conservative base.
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RedFromMI wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:45 pm From an Orlando Weekly article after Scott proposed this insane plan:
Rick Scott’s ‘11 Point Plan to Rescue America’ is so insane it’s basically a gift to the Democrats
By Jeffrey C. Billman @jeffreybillman

Mitch McConnell knows how to win the midterm: Oppose everything Joe Biden does, blame him for anything that goes wrong, but never lay out an agenda that turns the election into a choice rather than a referendum.

Last week, however, Sen. Rick Scott — a billionaire Medicare scammer who scammed Floridians into narrowly electing him governor twice and senator once, and who is in charge of electing Republicans to the Senate — threw a wrench into the machine with his “11 Point Plan to Rescue America,” a manifesto that mixes Newt Gingrich’s kick-the-poor ’90s with Trumpian authoritarianism, white Christian nationalism, overt attacks on voting rights, economic and constitutional illiteracy, and a Mack truck full of gaslighting.

The 11 points speak for themselves:
  • Turn schools into patriotism factories where kids are forced to say the Pledge of Allegiance (unconstitutional) and teachers can get fired for making white children uncomfortable (i.e., “critical race theory”). Then again, none of that will matter after they close the Department of Education and implement a voucher program that ghettoizes public schools and routes billions of tax dollars to unregulated religious institutions.
End diversity training “or any woke ideological indoctrination” in the military — “woke” is Scott’s new favorite word — cut off funding for universities that try to diversify their student bodies, and proclaim as a point of fact that the nation is colorblind (the last 400 years never happened).
  • Impose more draconian sentences for violent and nonviolent crime, and expand qualified immunity so that cops can even more easily abuse their authority with impunity. Blue lives matter, etc.
  • “We will secure our border, finish building the wall, and name it after President Donald Trump.”
  • Give the president a line-item veto (not only unconstitutional, but it would render Congress irrelevant), prohibit debt ceiling increases (calamitous), tax poor and retired people (everyone should have “skin in the game”) and whatever “Socialism will be treated as a foreign combatant” means.
  • Enact term limits for members of Congress and civil servants (unconstitutional and will empower lobbyists), move government agencies out of Washington and “into the real world” (expensive), and cut IRS funding in half (presumably so Scott’s pals can get away with tax fraud).
  • Ban same-day and automatic voter registration (because fraud, or whatever), unmanned collection boxes and public campaign financing (“No serious person would ever favor this,” says the billionaire), and don’t count absentee ballots that arrive after Election Day. But voter ID will be mandatory, of course.
  • Ban abortion, ban porn, give tax breaks to “nuclear families” and allow faith-based groups to discriminate against whomever they like.
  • God says trans people aren’t real, so doctors should be banned from treating trans children and trans men should be banned from women’s sports — which the party that just a few years ago ridiculed Title IX now finds sacred. (Strange, that.) Also, “no government forms will include questions about ‘gender identity’ or ‘sexual preference.’”
  • Ban Facebook and Twitter from banning users for hate speech or spreading misinformation (unconstitutional), “reject both the roots and the adherents of cancel culture in America,” and “stop investing federal retirement dollars with ‘woke’ fund managers and companies that put left-wing politics ahead of profits” (“woke” means clean energy, I presume).
  • Stop participating in peacekeeping missions, end imports from China (only $435 billion a year), “take climate change seriously but not hysterically” (i.e., do nothing) and “treat our enemies like enemies.”
There is the Republican plan to “rescue” the country, which was humming along fine until Jan. 20, 2021.

Most of it isn’t new, per se. What’s new is Scott’s attempt to marry the party’s anti-tax, pro-austerity wing with Trump’s populist, authoritarian wing. On the surface, that seems dubious. To the degree Trump had a policy outlook more sophisticated than “Build the Wall,” it was that he promised everything to everyone — cut taxes and increase spending and cut the deficit — and pretended he never made those promises when they became inconvenient.

Scott, however, wants to reframe the oligarchical (read: deeply unpopular) aspects of the GOP agenda as an extension of the culture wars: The “woke” left is sending your money to “undeserving” others; you don’t have to squint to see the racial subtext. From start to finish, this is an authoritarian document dressed up in the language of freedom. Like all variants of right-wing populism, it focuses the grievances of its target demo (a loss of cultural primacy) at scapegoats (the wokes).




Most of this plan I love. So does the base. People like plans, it gives folks clarity and accountability. Americans especially love plans that are pro-America and pro-family.

Let’s do this 🇺🇸!!!!!

(as always and as a matter of personal privilege, I ignore the lunatic liberal writer whose Twitter feed one can accurately predict within an inch of its life, zero independent thoughts).
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So you are calling me a lunatic, eh?
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RedFromMI wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:19 pm So you are calling me a lunatic, eh?



Are you Jeffrey Billiman?
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Peter Brown wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:44 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:19 pm So you are calling me a lunatic, eh?



Are you Jeffrey Billiman?
Your reference is completely unclear.
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OK, you got elected; now can we stop the performative bullsh*t?

https://twitter.com/MelLeonor_/status/1 ... 7199461383
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seacoaster wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:11 pm OK, you got elected; now can we stop the performative bullsh*t?

https://twitter.com/MelLeonor_/status/1 ... 7199461383
nope, we warned that this guy's 'performing' was really the act he put on as a moderate in order to be palatable outside of the base while wink and a nod to the base along the way...his true stripes are showing through.
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RedFromMI wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:50 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:44 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:19 pm So you are calling me a lunatic, eh?
Are you Jeffrey Billiman?
Your reference is completely unclear.




The original post by you is an article by Jeffrey Billman, who proceeds to write like a lunatic (‘Scott scammed etc,,,,). Jeffrey is a lunatic.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:16 pm
seacoaster wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:11 pm OK, you got elected; now can we stop the performative bullsh*t?

https://twitter.com/MelLeonor_/status/1 ... 7199461383
nope, we warned that this guy's 'performing' was really the act he put on as a moderate in order to be palatable outside of the base while wink and a nod to the base along the way...his true stripes are showing through.



:roll: :roll:
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:roll: :roll:

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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:38 am
This cat is one of the up-and-comers of the modern Republican Party

Stolen Valor - lied about getting into the Naval Academy. Admitted to lying under oath during a lawsuit he was implicated in. link - link 2

Sexual Assault - Spent one semester in college at one of the most right-wing colleges in America. Dropped out to having straight D's (his words).
Accused of sexual assaulting at least a dozen women. Half the student body (over 150 people) signed a letter and corroborated the victims' accounts. RAs and staff would warn women not to be alone with him. link

Guy's into White Supremacy, lied about getting into Harvard and Princeton, lied about Paralympics training, lied about his career, lied about his "heroic" car crash rescue, illegally brought a weapon to a school board meeting, Federal Ethics complaint after harassing a fellow Republican (his apology letter has to be seen to be believed ), recently caught driving with a revoked license for the 2nd time, his own story on how he met his wife via Russia is super weird and shady. And oh yeah, that wife divorced him only 8 months later, when he constantly decries how the left and LGBT the community is destroying the nuclear family. The National Review called him a disappointment

Oh yeah, check him out fighting a dead tree, it's amazing:




I wonder if he gets his outfits from a 80 year old Hugo Boss line...

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Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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