FanLax Forum Poll

[10stone5]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Richmond
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville

H377 of a layout.
Pretty obvious which have the better resumes.

[MDlaxfan76]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Richmond
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville

H377 of a layout.
Pretty obvious which have the better resumes.

I'd move Princeton ahead of Georgetown and everyone else down a notch. Things may very well shake out differently as the season progresses, but simply on what has been played, I don't see any reason to rank Georgetown ahead of the team they just lost to. And until someone else beats Princeton other than the #1, well...

Otherwise, that list makes sense...at this point.
That said, I think UVA is likely to end up higher than Cornell.

Time will tell.

[Wheels]

Wheels -
Georgetown beats Penn in Philly but loses at home to Princeton. Logically, it would seem to me that Princeton should be ahead of Georgetown and Georgetown ahead of Penn. Yet it's like the head-to-head FROM SATURDAY doesn't seem to matter, so Georgetown stays ahead of Princeton.


I am a Georgetown backer but in my poll i have Princeton ahead of Hoyas. They won head to head and they hung in well with my #1 Maryland. I am more of an eye test type voter but either way I think Princeton should be ahead Curreri IMO

That's where I am, too. I have Princeton>Georgetown>Penn in consecutive order.

[rolldodge]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Richmond
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville

H377 of a layout.
Pretty obvious which have the better resumes.

I'd move Princeton ahead of Georgetown and everyone else down a notch. Things may very well shake out differently as the season progresses, but simply on what has been played, I don't see any reason to rank Georgetown ahead of the team they just lost to. And until someone else beats Princeton other than the #1, well...

Otherwise, that list makes sense...at this point.
That said, I think UVA is likely to end up higher than Cornell.

Time will tell.

I can see that viewpoint. I'm sure my own bias plays into it, BUT ... even though Princeton beat Gtown, my ranking is based on overall resume. Gtowns wins are stronger overall at this point. Head to head only comes into account as a tie-breaker.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Richmond
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville

H377 of a layout.
Pretty obvious which have the better resumes.

I'd move Princeton ahead of Georgetown and everyone else down a notch. Things may very well shake out differently as the season progresses, but simply on what has been played, I don't see any reason to rank Georgetown ahead of the team they just lost to. And until someone else beats Princeton other than the #1, well...

Otherwise, that list makes sense...at this point.
That said, I think UVA is likely to end up higher than Cornell.

Time will tell.

I can see that viewpoint. I'm sure my own bias plays into it, BUT ... even though Princeton beat Gtown, my ranking is based on overall resume. Gtowns wins are stronger overall at this point. Head to head only comes into account as a tie-breaker.

I agree but this isn't always to case, unfortunately.

[blue angels]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Richmond
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville
Jacksonville. 5-2 Duke, Mercer, Marquette, Denver, Air Force. /// L to Hopkins, Utah
Utah 3-1 Vermont, Marquette, Jacksonville. /// L to Denver
Yale. 2-1 Villanova, UMass. L to Penn State
Michigan 6-0 Bellarmine, Detroit Mercy, Holy cross, Canisus, Cleveland State, Delaware
Brown 4-1 Quinn, Vermont, Villanova, Providence. /// L to UNC
Army. 5-1 UMASS, Sienna, NJIT, Syracuse, Holy Cross. /// L to Rutgers
Boston U. 4-0 Merrimack, Bryant, UMASS, Colgate
Stony brook. 4-1 Fairfield, Robert Morris, St Johns, LIU.  /// L to Rutgers
Notre Dame. 1-2 Detroit Mercy, L to Georgetown, Maryland
Delaware. 4-2 NJIT, MSM, St Josephs, Monmouth. /// L to Duke, Michigan
Bucknell. 5-0 Mercer, Robert Morris, St Johns, Marist, Binghamton. 
St. Joseph's St. Bon, Penn State, Providence, Monmouth. /// L to Delaware
Denver. 3-3 Utah, Air Force, Cansius. /// L to Duke, Jacksonville, UNC
Hopkins. 3-3 Jacksonville, Towson, Loyola. /// L to UNC, Georgetown, Virginia
Villanova 3-2 Penn State, Fairfield, Hofstra. /// L to Yale, Brown
Richmond 3-2 Marist, Towson, St Bon. /// L to UNC, Duke
Harvard 2-1 NJIT, Fairfield. /// L to Ohio State
Merrimack 3-2 Darmouth, Holy Cross, UMAss Lowell. /// L to Hofstra, Boston U
Towson 3-3 Mt St Marys, Loyola, UMBC /// L to Hopkins, Virginia, Richmond
Drexel 2-2 Albany, LIU /// L to UMBC, Lafayette
Penn State. 2-4 Lafayette, Yale. /// L to Villanova, Vermont, St Josephs, Penn
Syracuse. 2-3 Holy Cross, Hobart. /// L to Maryland, Virginia, Army
Hobart. 2-2 Canisius, Lehigh. /// L to Cornell, Syracuse
Lehigh 2-2 Navy, NJIT. /// L to Hobart, Cornell
High Point 3-3 Colgate, Navy, Bellarmine. /// L to Maryland, Virginia, Duke
Vermont 1-3 Penn State. /// L to Duke, Utah, Brown
UMass 1-3. Mass Lowell. /// L to Army, Boston U, Yale

No need to get exorcised over meaningless polls but Virginia played Hopkins last Saturday. Not Richmond if that is what the computer is using.

[MDlaxfan76]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Richmond
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville

H377 of a layout.
Pretty obvious which have the better resumes.

I'd move Princeton ahead of Georgetown and everyone else down a notch. Things may very well shake out differently as the season progresses, but simply on what has been played, I don't see any reason to rank Georgetown ahead of the team they just lost to. And until someone else beats Princeton other than the #1, well...

Otherwise, that list makes sense...at this point.
That said, I think UVA is likely to end up higher than Cornell.

Time will tell.

I can see that viewpoint. I'm sure my own bias plays into it, BUT ... even though Princeton beat Gtown, my ranking is based on overall resume. Gtowns wins are stronger overall at this point. Head to head only comes into account as a tie-breaker.

mmmm, I see the general argument, but when we're talking about ranking the very top group, seems to me that beating the #5 is way more telling than beating the #9 and others outside of the top 10. And being beaten by the #1 counts less against than being beaten by the #8.

Again, all this shakes out with many more games and who knows where it all lands. I'm just looking at where we are now and PU beat Georgetown.

[Matnum PI]

[rolldodge]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Richmond
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville
Jacksonville. 5-2 Duke, Mercer, Marquette, Denver, Air Force. /// L to Hopkins, Utah
Utah 3-1 Vermont, Marquette, Jacksonville. /// L to Denver
Yale. 2-1 Villanova, UMass. L to Penn State
Michigan 6-0 Bellarmine, Detroit Mercy, Holy cross, Canisus, Cleveland State, Delaware
Brown 4-1 Quinn, Vermont, Villanova, Providence. /// L to UNC
Army. 5-1 UMASS, Sienna, NJIT, Syracuse, Holy Cross. /// L to Rutgers
Boston U. 4-0 Merrimack, Bryant, UMASS, Colgate
Stony brook. 4-1 Fairfield, Robert Morris, St Johns, LIU.  /// L to Rutgers
Notre Dame. 1-2 Detroit Mercy, L to Georgetown, Maryland
Delaware. 4-2 NJIT, MSM, St Josephs, Monmouth. /// L to Duke, Michigan
Bucknell. 5-0 Mercer, Robert Morris, St Johns, Marist, Binghamton. 
St. Joseph's St. Bon, Penn State, Providence, Monmouth. /// L to Delaware
Denver. 3-3 Utah, Air Force, Cansius. /// L to Duke, Jacksonville, UNC
Hopkins. 3-3 Jacksonville, Towson, Loyola. /// L to UNC, Georgetown, Virginia
Villanova 3-2 Penn State, Fairfield, Hofstra. /// L to Yale, Brown
Richmond 3-2 Marist, Towson, St Bon. /// L to UNC, Duke
Harvard 2-1 NJIT, Fairfield. /// L to Ohio State
Merrimack 3-2 Darmouth, Holy Cross, UMAss Lowell. /// L to Hofstra, Boston U
Towson 3-3 Mt St Marys, Loyola, UMBC /// L to Hopkins, Virginia, Richmond
Drexel 2-2 Albany, LIU /// L to UMBC, Lafayette
Penn State. 2-4 Lafayette, Yale. /// L to Villanova, Vermont, St Josephs, Penn
Syracuse. 2-3 Holy Cross, Hobart. /// L to Maryland, Virginia, Army
Hobart. 2-2 Canisius, Lehigh. /// L to Cornell, Syracuse
Lehigh 2-2 Navy, NJIT. /// L to Hobart, Cornell
High Point 3-3 Colgate, Navy, Bellarmine. /// L to Maryland, Virginia, Duke
Vermont 1-3 Penn State. /// L to Duke, Utah, Brown
UMass 1-3. Mass Lowell. /// L to Army, Boston U, Yale

No need to get exorcised over meaningless polls but Virginia played Hopkins last Saturday. Not Richmond if that is what the computer is using.

Thanks. Fixed it. The computer (my coffee-addled brain ) was using Hopkins, just typed it wrong.

[rolldodge]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Richmond
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville

H377 of a layout.
Pretty obvious which have the better resumes.

I'd move Princeton ahead of Georgetown and everyone else down a notch. Things may very well shake out differently as the season progresses, but simply on what has been played, I don't see any reason to rank Georgetown ahead of the team they just lost to. And until someone else beats Princeton other than the #1, well...

Otherwise, that list makes sense...at this point.
That said, I think UVA is likely to end up higher than Cornell.

Time will tell.

I can see that viewpoint. I'm sure my own bias plays into it, BUT ... even though Princeton beat Gtown, my ranking is based on overall resume. Gtowns wins are stronger overall at this point. Head to head only comes into account as a tie-breaker.

mmmm, I see the general argument, but when we're talking about ranking the very top group, seems to me that beating the #5 is way more telling than beating the #9 and others outside of the top 10. And being beaten by the #1 counts less against than being beaten by the #8.

Again, all this shakes out with many more games and who knows where it all lands. I'm just looking at where we are now and PU beat Georgetown.

Almost any team in Div 1 can beat any other team on any given Saturday. Winning one game does not (necessarily) make a team "better" when looking at the overall picture. Princetons other wins are Monmouth and Binghamton. I might use losses to help with tiebreakers, but they generally count for very little, other than the number of. They will have the chance to prove they are better than Gtown generally, but they don't have the wins yet.

[MDlaxfan76]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Richmond
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville

H377 of a layout.
Pretty obvious which have the better resumes.

I'd move Princeton ahead of Georgetown and everyone else down a notch. Things may very well shake out differently as the season progresses, but simply on what has been played, I don't see any reason to rank Georgetown ahead of the team they just lost to. And until someone else beats Princeton other than the #1, well...

Otherwise, that list makes sense...at this point.
That said, I think UVA is likely to end up higher than Cornell.

Time will tell.

I can see that viewpoint. I'm sure my own bias plays into it, BUT ... even though Princeton beat Gtown, my ranking is based on overall resume. Gtowns wins are stronger overall at this point. Head to head only comes into account as a tie-breaker.

mmmm, I see the general argument, but when we're talking about ranking the very top group, seems to me that beating the #5 is way more telling than beating the #9 and others outside of the top 10. And being beaten by the #1 counts less against than being beaten by the #8.

Again, all this shakes out with many more games and who knows where it all lands. I'm just looking at where we are now and PU beat Georgetown.

Almost any team in Div 1 can beat any other team on any given Saturday. Winning one game does not (necessarily) make a team "better" when looking at the overall picture. Princetons other wins are Monmouth and Binghamton. I might use losses to help with tiebreakers, but they generally count for very little, other than the number of. They will have the chance to prove they are better than Gtown generally, but they don't have the wins yet.

Just my opinion, based on so little data. Indeed, I think that heightens the importance of direct match-up. Georgetown, IMO, can "prove" they are better than Princeton, but not based on this weekend.

[rolldodge]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Richmond
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville

H377 of a layout.
Pretty obvious which have the better resumes.

I'd move Princeton ahead of Georgetown and everyone else down a notch. Things may very well shake out differently as the season progresses, but simply on what has been played, I don't see any reason to rank Georgetown ahead of the team they just lost to. And until someone else beats Princeton other than the #1, well...

Otherwise, that list makes sense...at this point.
That said, I think UVA is likely to end up higher than Cornell.

Time will tell.

I can see that viewpoint. I'm sure my own bias plays into it, BUT ... even though Princeton beat Gtown, my ranking is based on overall resume. Gtowns wins are stronger overall at this point. Head to head only comes into account as a tie-breaker.

mmmm, I see the general argument, but when we're talking about ranking the very top group, seems to me that beating the #5 is way more telling than beating the #9 and others outside of the top 10. And being beaten by the #1 counts less against than being beaten by the #8.

Again, all this shakes out with many more games and who knows where it all lands. I'm just looking at where we are now and PU beat Georgetown.

Almost any team in Div 1 can beat any other team on any given Saturday. Winning one game does not (necessarily) make a team "better" when looking at the overall picture. Princetons other wins are Monmouth and Binghamton. I might use losses to help with tiebreakers, but they generally count for very little, other than the number of. They will have the chance to prove they are better than Gtown generally, but they don't have the wins yet.

Just my opinion, based on so little data. Indeed, I think that heightens the importance of direct match-up. Georgetown, IMO, can "prove" they are better than Princeton, but not based on this weekend.

Absolutely. In the end, it's still subjective. Just further explaining my own subjective rationale.

[fsclax]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Hopkins
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville
Jacksonville. 5-2 Duke, Mercer, Marquette, Denver, Air Force. /// L to Hopkins, Utah
Utah 3-1 Vermont, Marquette, Jacksonville. /// L to Denver
Yale. 2-1 Villanova, UMass. L to Penn State
Michigan 6-0 Bellarmine, Detroit Mercy, Holy cross, Canisus, Cleveland State, Delaware
Brown 4-1 Quinn, Vermont, Villanova, Providence. /// L to UNC
Army. 5-1 UMASS, Sienna, NJIT, Syracuse, Holy Cross. /// L to Rutgers
Boston U. 4-0 Merrimack, Bryant, UMASS, Colgate
Stony brook. 4-1 Fairfield, Robert Morris, St Johns, LIU.  /// L to Rutgers
Notre Dame. 1-2 Detroit Mercy, L to Georgetown, Maryland
Delaware. 4-2 NJIT, MSM, St Josephs, Monmouth. /// L to Duke, Michigan
Bucknell. 5-0 Mercer, Robert Morris, St Johns, Marist, Binghamton. 
St. Joseph's St. Bon, Penn State, Providence, Monmouth. /// L to Delaware
Denver. 3-3 Utah, Air Force, Cansius. /// L to Duke, Jacksonville, UNC
Hopkins. 3-3 Jacksonville, Towson, Loyola. /// L to UNC, Georgetown, Virginia
Villanova 3-2 Penn State, Fairfield, Hofstra. /// L to Yale, Brown
Richmond 3-2 Marist, Towson, St Bon. /// L to UNC, Duke
Harvard 2-1 NJIT, Fairfield. /// L to Ohio State
Merrimack 3-2 Darmouth, Holy Cross, UMAss Lowell. /// L to Hofstra, Boston U
Towson 3-3 Mt St Marys, Loyola, UMBC /// L to Hopkins, Virginia, Richmond
Drexel 2-2 Albany, LIU /// L to UMBC, Lafayette
Penn State. 2-4 Lafayette, Yale. /// L to Villanova, Vermont, St Josephs, Penn
Syracuse. 2-3 Holy Cross, Hobart. /// L to Maryland, Virginia, Army
Hobart. 2-2 Canisius, Lehigh. /// L to Cornell, Syracuse
Lehigh 2-2 Navy, NJIT. /// L to Hobart, Cornell
High Point 3-3 Colgate, Navy, Bellarmine. /// L to Maryland, Virginia, Duke
Vermont 1-3 Penn State. /// L to Duke, Utah, Brown
UMass 1-3. Mass Lowell. /// L to Army, Boston U, Yale

Thank you for posting it this way.

[GSP]

UVA at #4 is just plain silly. You qualify with the phrase, "With so little data." With inadequate data the ranking itself is farcical, except that you eliminate from your "data," both score differentials AND the "data" that could be gleaned by actually watching the games and the skill of the players.

Garbage in, Garbage out.

[GSP]

submitted in error

[blue angels]

UVA at #4 is just plain silly. You qualify with the phrase, "With so little data." With inadequate data the ranking itself is farcical, except that you eliminate from your "data," both score differentials AND the "data" that could be gleaned by actually watching the games and the skill of the players.

Garbage in, Garbage out.

I think Rutgers and Georgetown should be co number 1…….I mean everyone thinks they have been ignored long enough and it’s time to give them their due……

[FanLax Computer]

1. Some teams have plenty of data. Others do not. The teams with an asterisks next to their name are the others-do-not teams. One asterisks means they need another W. Two asterisks means they need two more Ws. Three asterisks means they need three more Ws. When these teams get more Ws, they'll move up the rankings. In other words, Penn will move up, Yale will move up, Notre Dame will for sure move up, etc.
2. The Columns are Rankings, Teams, GP=Games Played, W%=Winning Percentage, SOS=Strength of Schedule, W=Win Ranking (based on 3 Best Wins), L=Loss Ranking (based on 3 Worst Losses).
3. Maryland is ranked #1 in Wins and Losses thus is the obvious #1 ranked team.
4. Good wins are more important than losses. But bad losses are not good.
5. Lastly, each team is judged based on their Ws and Ls in 2022 and the quality of those Ws and Ls in 2022, each team's 2022 resume. Period.

[CU77]

Some food for thought, Dr. Larry Feldman's laxpower rankings:

http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rating01.php

[MDlaxfan76]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Richmond
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville

H377 of a layout.
Pretty obvious which have the better resumes.

I'd move Princeton ahead of Georgetown and everyone else down a notch. Things may very well shake out differently as the season progresses, but simply on what has been played, I don't see any reason to rank Georgetown ahead of the team they just lost to. And until someone else beats Princeton other than the #1, well...

Otherwise, that list makes sense...at this point.
That said, I think UVA is likely to end up higher than Cornell.

Time will tell.

I can see that viewpoint. I'm sure my own bias plays into it, BUT ... even though Princeton beat Gtown, my ranking is based on overall resume. Gtowns wins are stronger overall at this point. Head to head only comes into account as a tie-breaker.

mmmm, I see the general argument, but when we're talking about ranking the very top group, seems to me that beating the #5 is way more telling than beating the #9 and others outside of the top 10. And being beaten by the #1 counts less against than being beaten by the #8.

Again, all this shakes out with many more games and who knows where it all lands. I'm just looking at where we are now and PU beat Georgetown.

Almost any team in Div 1 can beat any other team on any given Saturday. Winning one game does not (necessarily) make a team "better" when looking at the overall picture. Princetons other wins are Monmouth and Binghamton. I might use losses to help with tiebreakers, but they generally count for very little, other than the number of. They will have the chance to prove they are better than Gtown generally, but they don't have the wins yet.

Just my opinion, based on so little data. Indeed, I think that heightens the importance of direct match-up. Georgetown, IMO, can "prove" they are better than Princeton, but not based on this weekend.

Absolutely. In the end, it's still subjective. Just further explaining my own subjective rationale.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Maryland. 5-0 High Point, Loyola, Syracuse, Princeton, Notre Dame
Cornell. 4-0 UAlbany, Lehigh, Hobart, Ohio State
Rutgers. 6-0 LIU, Marist, St Johns, Army, Loyola, Stony Brook
Virginia. 5-0 Air Force, High Point, Towson, Syracuse, Richmond
Georgetown. 4-1 Hopkins, Penn, Notre Dame. Mt St Marys. /// L to Princeton
Ohio State. 4-1 Detroit Mercy, Cleveland State, North Carolina, Harvard.  /// L to Cornell
UNC. 5-1 Richmond. Colgate, Brown, Hopkins, Denver. /// L to Ohio State 
Princeton 3-1 Monmouth, Binghamton, Gtown. /// L to Maryland
Penn. 2-1 Duke, Penn State. /// L to GTown
Duke. 7-2 Robert Morris, Vermont, Manhattan, Delaware, High Point, Richmond. /// L to Penn, Jacksonville

H377 of a layout.
Pretty obvious which have the better resumes.

I'd move Princeton ahead of Georgetown and everyone else down a notch. Things may very well shake out differently as the season progresses, but simply on what has been played, I don't see any reason to rank Georgetown ahead of the team they just lost to. And until someone else beats Princeton other than the #1, well...

Otherwise, that list makes sense...at this point.
That said, I think UVA is likely to end up higher than Cornell.

Time will tell.

I can see that viewpoint. I'm sure my own bias plays into it, BUT ... even though Princeton beat Gtown, my ranking is based on overall resume. Gtowns wins are stronger overall at this point. Head to head only comes into account as a tie-breaker.

mmmm, I see the general argument, but when we're talking about ranking the very top group, seems to me that beating the #5 is way more telling than beating the #9 and others outside of the top 10. And being beaten by the #1 counts less against than being beaten by the #8.

Again, all this shakes out with many more games and who knows where it all lands. I'm just looking at where we are now and PU beat Georgetown.

Almost any team in Div 1 can beat any other team on any given Saturday. Winning one game does not (necessarily) make a team "better" when looking at the overall picture. Princetons other wins are Monmouth and Binghamton. I might use losses to help with tiebreakers, but they generally count for very little, other than the number of. They will have the chance to prove they are better than Gtown generally, but they don't have the wins yet.

Just my opinion, based on so little data. Indeed, I think that heightens the importance of direct match-up. Georgetown, IMO, can "prove" they are better than Princeton, but not based on this weekend.

Absolutely. In the end, it's still subjective. Just further explaining my own subjective rationale.

In Princeton’s last 9 games, the team is 8-1 with wins over Hopkins, Virginia, Rutgers and Georgetown and a competitive loss to #1 Maryland. A win against Rutgers on Saturday would be another quality win. But I agree head to head is not the first tie breaker when there is a larger body of work.