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Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:28 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:44 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:44 pm 12 Cornell*
Cornell at 12 and will be higher when they get their 3rd win...
Won't be tomorrow!
I am looking forward to that game. I have Cornell ranked relatively low only because I don’t really know what they have. Watching them play tomorrow will give me a data point.
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Based on their Resumes thus far this season, their Best Three Wins and Worst Three Losses, these are the D1 Men's Rankings. I'm aware OSU beat UNC, Penn beat Duke, etc. and... These are individual games. When creating this ranking, I look at each team's body of work thus far this season, not just individual games. In other words, based on Penn's season thus far this season (keep in mind, thus far, they've only played 2 games), their W over Duke was the biggest upset we've seen this season. In a couple weeks, this game may not be an upset at all. Each team's body of work, not just individual games. With that said, #1 to #73.

1 Georgetown
2 Maryland
3 North Carolina
4 Virginia
5 Rutgers
6 Duke
7 Johns Hopkins
8 Ohio State
9 Jacksonville
10 Cornell
11 Delaware
12 Richmond
13 Boston University
14 Brown
15 Stony Brook
16 Saint Joseph's
17 Bucknell
18 Penn
19 High Point
20 Michigan
21 Denver
22 Princeton
23 Hobart
24 Army
25 Utah
26 Villanova
27 Mount St Mary's
28 Notre Dame
29 Navy
30 LIU
31 Yale
32 Harvard
33 Syracuse
34 Towson
35 Dartmouth
36 Vermont
37 Penn State
38 Loyola
39 UMBC
40 Lehigh
41 Colgate
42 Merrimack
43 Hofstra
44 Marist
45 Monmouth
46 UMass
47 Detroit Mercy
48 Manhattan
49 Fairfield
50 Binghamton
51 Bryant
52 St. Bonaventure
53 Mercer
54 Marquette
55 St. John's
56 Air Force
57 Robert Morris
58 Providence
59 Lafayette
60 UAlbany
61 Drexel
62 Cleveland State
63 NJIT
64 Sacred Heart
65 Canisius
66 Siena
67 Holy Cross
68 Quinnipiac
69 VMI
70 Wagner
71 Bellarmine
72 Hampton
73 UMass Lowell
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So Penn beat your number 6 and lost to your number 1 and they are ranked in the teens?
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HGK wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:10 am So Penn beat your number 6 and lost to your number 1 and they are ranked in the teens?
Computers have no concept of the importance of "winning"...no more so than knowledge of a 500+ horsepower sports cars acceleration. Or the taste of 50 year old bourbon.
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They probably need another game, UPenn, before the
computers catch up.
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runrussellrun wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:33 am
HGK wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:10 am So Penn beat your number 6 and lost to your number 1 and they are ranked in the teens?
Computers have no concept of the importance of "winning"...no more so than knowledge of a 500+ horsepower sports cars acceleration. Or the taste of 50 year old bourbon.
Isn’t winning a key imput for rankings?
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HGK wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:10 am So Penn beat your number 6 and lost to your number 1 and they are ranked in the teens?
not only did i speak to this, I spoke to Penn explicitly!

"Based on their Resumes thus far this season, their Best Three Wins and Worst Three Losses, these are the D1 Men's Rankings. I'm aware OSU beat UNC, Penn beat Duke, etc. and... These are individual games. When creating this ranking, I look at each team's body of work thus far this season, not just individual games. In other words, based on Penn's season thus far this season (keep in mind, thus far, they've only played 2 games), their W over Duke was the biggest upset we've seen this season. In a couple weeks, this game may not be an upset at all. Each team's body of work, not just individual games. With that said, #1 to #73."

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HGK wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:40 am
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:33 am
HGK wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:10 am So Penn beat your number 6 and lost to your number 1 and they are ranked in the teens?
Computers have no concept of the importance of "winning"...no more so than knowledge of a 500+ horsepower sports cars acceleration. Or the taste of 50 year old bourbon.
Isn’t winning a key imput for rankings?
Asked - Answered.
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10stone5 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:33 am They probably need another game, UPenn, before the
computers catch up.
Catch up, to what?
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HGK wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:40 am
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:33 am
HGK wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:10 am So Penn beat your number 6 and lost to your number 1 and they are ranked in the teens?
Computers have no concept of the importance of "winning"...no more so than knowledge of a 500+ horsepower sports cars acceleration. Or the taste of 50 year old bourbon.
Isn’t winning a key imput for rankings?
NO......winning does NOT matter..... Hopkins ranked #7 is all you need to know about a computer ranking value, based on stats and not "feelings" ....well ahead of undefeated Boston U.

It's ok to have feelings.....
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What about bucknell 1996?
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runrussellrun wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:23 pm
HGK wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:40 am
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:33 am
HGK wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:10 am So Penn beat your number 6 and lost to your number 1 and they are ranked in the teens?
Computers have no concept of the importance of "winning"...no more so than knowledge of a 500+ horsepower sports cars acceleration. Or the taste of 50 year old bourbon.
Isn’t winning a key imput for rankings?
NO......winning does NOT matter..... Hopkins ranked #7 is all you need to know about a computer ranking value, based on stats and not "feelings" ....well ahead of undefeated Boston U.

It's ok to have feelings.....
I was clearly being facetious. Geez.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:04 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:28 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:44 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:44 pm 12 Cornell*
Cornell at 12 and will be higher when they get their 3rd win...
Won't be tomorrow!
I am looking forward to that game. I have Cornell ranked relatively low only because I don’t really know what they have. Watching them play tomorrow will give me a data point.
Watched the game. 20 is too low for Cornell in my poll submission. Another win on Saturday and definitely moving up. May also move up with a loss depending on other games.
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HGK wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:34 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:23 pm
HGK wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:40 am
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:33 am
HGK wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:10 am So Penn beat your number 6 and lost to your number 1 and they are ranked in the teens?
Computers have no concept of the importance of "winning"...no more so than knowledge of a 500+ horsepower sports cars acceleration. Or the taste of 50 year old bourbon.
Isn’t winning a key imput for rankings?
NO......winning does NOT matter..... Hopkins ranked #7 is all you need to know about a computer ranking value, based on stats and not "feelings" ....well ahead of undefeated Boston U.

It's ok to have feelings.....
I was clearly being facetious. Geez.
Yes, but I wasn't. :D

"body of work" is just, laxmafia, speak speak for n$aa invite justification......

Penn beating Duke, but Jacksonville ALSO beating Duke, means Hopkins is top 10 ? huh
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Ranking teams by who beats who eg A >B; B >C; C > A Often creates a circular firing squad. Another image is the ouroboros aka the snake swallowing its tail.

In theory a team with a few weak schedule could be undefeated at the end of the regular season.
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Forum Polls due on Monday at noon EST. Enjoy the games this weekend. https://fanlax.com/2020/01/30/fanlax-forum-polls/
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FanLax Computer wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:55 am Based on their Resumes thus far this season, their Best Three Wins and Worst Three Losses, these are the D1 Men's Rankings. I'm aware OSU beat UNC, Penn beat Duke, etc. and... These are individual games. When creating this ranking, I look at each team's body of work thus far this season, not just individual games. In other words, based on Penn's season thus far this season (keep in mind, thus far, they've only played 2 games), their W over Duke was the biggest upset we've seen this season. In a couple weeks, this game may not be an upset at all. Each team's body of work, not just individual games. With that said, #1 to #73.

1 Georgetown
2 Maryland
3 North Carolina
4 Virginia
5 Rutgers
6 Duke
7 Johns Hopkins
8 Ohio State
9 Jacksonville
10 Cornell
11 Delaware
12 Richmond
13 Boston University
14 Brown
15 Stony Brook
16 Saint Joseph's
17 Bucknell
18 Penn
19 High Point
20 Michigan
21 Denver
22 Princeton
23 Hobart
24 Army
25 Utah
26 Villanova
27 Mount St Mary's
28 Notre Dame
29 Navy
30 LIU
31 Yale
32 Harvard
33 Syracuse
34 Towson
35 Dartmouth
36 Vermont
37 Penn State
38 Loyola
39 UMBC
40 Lehigh
41 Colgate
42 Merrimack
43 Hofstra
44 Marist
45 Monmouth
46 UMass
47 Detroit Mercy
48 Manhattan
49 Fairfield
50 Binghamton
51 Bryant
52 St. Bonaventure
53 Mercer
54 Marquette
55 St. John's
56 Air Force
57 Robert Morris
58 Providence
59 Lafayette
60 UAlbany
61 Drexel
62 Cleveland State
63 NJIT
64 Sacred Heart
65 Canisius
66 Siena
67 Holy Cross
68 Quinnipiac
69 VMI
70 Wagner
71 Bellarmine
72 Hampton
73 UMass Lowell
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lorin wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:10 am You need a new computer
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Good stuff
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Other than Maryland and UVA, this is a perplexing week to rank! I'm glad I'm participating in this (thank you @Matnum) because it has given me more empathy for real pollsters. Watching Hobart-'Cuse and Jacksonville - Denver this afternoon while trying to figure out who belongs where in the other 18 slots.
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