All things CoronaVirus

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How many of your friends and family members have died of the Chinese Corona Virus?

0 people
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64%
1 person.
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14%
2 people.
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7%
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10%
 
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:24 pm Going to tick over 980,000 dead Americans today.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00104-8

That is why researchers quickly turned to excess mortality as a proxy measure of the pandemic’s toll. Excess-death figures are seemingly easy to calculate: compare deaths during the pandemic with the average recorded over the previous five years or so. But even in wealthy countries with comprehensive and sophisticated systems to report deaths, excess-mortality figures can be misleading. That’s because the most obvious way to calculate them can fail to account for changes in population structure.
sounds like it'll be tough to figure out who "won" and "lost" covid. might have to go back in this thread to figure out meeself.
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but, yes trust ALL but tRump.....

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The timing of Lilly's "report" isn't timing at all.........only hours after the POTUSA mentioned "free treatments". Ahh....that's tin hat foil stuff.

Insulin STILL crazy expensive.....thought pos tRump took care of this problem :twisted: :twisted: :roll: :roll: :roll:

https://www.michiganradio.org/health/20 ... lin-prices

Michigan Attorney General investigating Eli Lilly's insulin prices

yes......trust EVERYONE with an evil past....except tRump......

founded in 1913.....hmmmm, rather interesting. Wonder, WHO founded it ;)

now, back to pages and pages of CU88 and cradle urinating on each other.......sickely, enjoying it.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:04 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:35 am COVID cases continue steep decline in U.S.

Tina Reed
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Data: N.Y. Times; Note: Case counts in Idaho, Maine and Washington may be affected by ongoing data anomalies; Cartogram: Kavya Beheraj/Axios
COVID case rates continued a steep decline over the last two weeks with the seven-day rolling average dropping to roughly 59,000 cases a day.

The big picture: These falling case rates prompted the CDC in the last week to loosen its mask guidance, recommending universal masking for less than a third of the U.S. population. The White House is also taking steps to bring back the federal workforce and otherwise promote a return to some form of pre-COVID normal.

By the numbers: Nationwide, the U.S. is averaging roughly 18 cases per 100,000 people over two weeks.

The lowest case rates were seen in Nebraska with six cases per 100,000 people, followed by Delaware and Maryland, which had nine cases per 100,000, respectively.
Meanwhile, Montana and Alaska had the highest rates at 49 cases per 100,000 people and 47 cases per 100,000, respectively. Idaho, Maine and Washington are not included in this because each has data anomalies this week.
Kentucky saw the greatest drop, to 38 cases per 100,000 people, down from 114 cases per 100,000 just a few weeks ago.
The only state where cases rose over the last two weeks was Nevada, which averaged 26 cases per 100,000, up from 23 cases per 100,000 a few weeks ago.
Yes but: Deaths nationwide dropped 18% from a seven-day rolling average of more than 2,300 per day. But they still average roughly 1,900 per day.

What we're watching: As with last week, the latest numbers indicate a cause for optimism as Americans return to more normal activities. But that comes with a caveat that it only takes one bad variant to reverse this progress.
Good news. Hopefully we keep up the vaccination push, otherwise we will be back at this again.
last 2 weeks, we have gained 1 m more 1st doses, and 1 m more 2 doses. or 0.3%. boosters up 1.7 m, to a total of 30% of the eligible population. kids 5-11 up a similar % amount, now 25.3%. and now the case rates are way, way down.

barring a deadlier variant arriving, tough to think vaccination would do much more than flatline. and that's not really a thing to hope for.

silver lining, a lot of people got some immunity the last couple months.
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wgdsr wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:04 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:35 am COVID cases continue steep decline in U.S.

Tina Reed
Tina Reed
, author of Axios Vitals
Axios on facebookAxios on twitterAxios on linkedinAxios on email

Data: N.Y. Times; Note: Case counts in Idaho, Maine and Washington may be affected by ongoing data anomalies; Cartogram: Kavya Beheraj/Axios
COVID case rates continued a steep decline over the last two weeks with the seven-day rolling average dropping to roughly 59,000 cases a day.

The big picture: These falling case rates prompted the CDC in the last week to loosen its mask guidance, recommending universal masking for less than a third of the U.S. population. The White House is also taking steps to bring back the federal workforce and otherwise promote a return to some form of pre-COVID normal.

By the numbers: Nationwide, the U.S. is averaging roughly 18 cases per 100,000 people over two weeks.

The lowest case rates were seen in Nebraska with six cases per 100,000 people, followed by Delaware and Maryland, which had nine cases per 100,000, respectively.
Meanwhile, Montana and Alaska had the highest rates at 49 cases per 100,000 people and 47 cases per 100,000, respectively. Idaho, Maine and Washington are not included in this because each has data anomalies this week.
Kentucky saw the greatest drop, to 38 cases per 100,000 people, down from 114 cases per 100,000 just a few weeks ago.
The only state where cases rose over the last two weeks was Nevada, which averaged 26 cases per 100,000, up from 23 cases per 100,000 a few weeks ago.
Yes but: Deaths nationwide dropped 18% from a seven-day rolling average of more than 2,300 per day. But they still average roughly 1,900 per day.

What we're watching: As with last week, the latest numbers indicate a cause for optimism as Americans return to more normal activities. But that comes with a caveat that it only takes one bad variant to reverse this progress.
Good news. Hopefully we keep up the vaccination push, otherwise we will be back at this again.
last 2 weeks, we have gained 1 m more 1st doses, and 1 m more 2 doses. or 0.3%. boosters up 1.7 m, to a total of 30% of the eligible population. kids 5-11 up a similar % amount, now 25.3%. and now the case rates are way, way down.

barring a deadlier variant arriving, tough to think vaccination would do much more than flatline. and that's not really a thing to hope for.

silver lining, a lot of people got some immunity the last couple months.
I am just hoping to avoid having the virus cook inside more and more unvaccinated folks. There is no downside in having a highly vaccinated population. There is huge downside with in adequate penetration or exposure…..I thought many people had been exposed but just didn’t know it during late Spring 2020…..we will be right eventually.
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wgdsr wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:50 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:24 pm Going to tick over 980,000 dead Americans today.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00104-8

That is why researchers quickly turned to excess mortality as a proxy measure of the pandemic’s toll. Excess-death figures are seemingly easy to calculate: compare deaths during the pandemic with the average recorded over the previous five years or so. But even in wealthy countries with comprehensive and sophisticated systems to report deaths, excess-mortality figures can be misleading. That’s because the most obvious way to calculate them can fail to account for changes in population structure.
sounds like it'll be tough to figure out who "won" and "lost" covid. might have to go back in this thread to figure out meeself.
Still waiting for the covid deaths asset movements, certainly would show up in the "fees" section of required reports for mutual fund folks, etc..........although all compass headings point to either:

1. mostly the poor are dying

2. the "on paper poor" shifted assets (still 5 years ) prior to 2015-16, and than died poor, alone, in the welfare hotels we call assisted living/nursing.


No one cares about the dead, since Biden is the POTUSA. We can't hear, or read, it enough. "...ONLY the unvaxxed are dying....only "

oh, right.....we were only joking.
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wgdsr wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:50 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:24 pm Going to tick over 980,000 dead Americans today.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00104-8

That is why researchers quickly turned to excess mortality as a proxy measure of the pandemic’s toll. Excess-death figures are seemingly easy to calculate: compare deaths during the pandemic with the average recorded over the previous five years or so. But even in wealthy countries with comprehensive and sophisticated systems to report deaths, excess-mortality figures can be misleading. That’s because the most obvious way to calculate them can fail to account for changes in population structure.
sounds like it'll be tough to figure out who "won" and "lost" covid. might have to go back in this thread to figure out meeself.
So far, 980,000 Americans lost..
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:06 pm
wgdsr wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:50 pm sounds like it'll be tough to figure out who "won" and "lost" covid. might have to go back in this thread to figure out meeself.
So far, 980,000 Americans lost..
Way more than that. All their loved ones lost. The people with long COVID lost. People who got hurt by the economic issues lost. Those overcome by stress and overdoses and suicides all lost. Etcetera. Etcetera.

The wins we did engineer and gains in knowledge came at great cost to the world. Hopefully we can use it as a stepping stone against other diseases.
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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:48 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:06 pm
wgdsr wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:50 pm sounds like it'll be tough to figure out who "won" and "lost" covid. might have to go back in this thread to figure out meeself.
So far, 980,000 Americans lost..
Way more than that. All their loved ones lost. The people with long COVID lost. People who got hurt by the economic issues lost. Those overcome by stress and overdoses and suicides all lost. Etcetera. Etcetera.

The wins we did engineer and gains in knowledge came at great cost to the world. Hopefully we can use it as a stepping stone against other diseases.
I should have said “at least”….. kind of crazy where we were 2 years ago.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:06 pm
wgdsr wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:50 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:24 pm Going to tick over 980,000 dead Americans today.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00104-8

That is why researchers quickly turned to excess mortality as a proxy measure of the pandemic’s toll. Excess-death figures are seemingly easy to calculate: compare deaths during the pandemic with the average recorded over the previous five years or so. But even in wealthy countries with comprehensive and sophisticated systems to report deaths, excess-mortality figures can be misleading. That’s because the most obvious way to calculate them can fail to account for changes in population structure.
sounds like it'll be tough to figure out who "won" and "lost" covid. might have to go back in this thread to figure out meeself.
So far, 980,000 Americans lost..
what matters is how we did vs. other countries.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:24 pm Going to tick over 980,000 dead Americans today.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00104-8

That is why researchers quickly turned to excess mortality as a proxy measure of the pandemic’s toll. Excess-death figures are seemingly easy to calculate: compare deaths during the pandemic with the average recorded over the previous five years or so. But even in wealthy countries with comprehensive and sophisticated systems to report deaths, excess-mortality figures can be misleading. That’s because the most obvious way to calculate them can fail to account for changes in population structure.
Is the 2019 data still missing, or was that 2018....or both.

and going by "excess deaths", the CDC/NIH concludes that number to much, much lower.

But, you already now this.

WHO IS.......the worldOmeter. Still out of Greenwich, CT.......so very odd. Where is my hat of tin....
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wgdsr wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:06 pm
wgdsr wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:50 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:24 pm Going to tick over 980,000 dead Americans today.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00104-8

That is why researchers quickly turned to excess mortality as a proxy measure of the pandemic’s toll. Excess-death figures are seemingly easy to calculate: compare deaths during the pandemic with the average recorded over the previous five years or so. But even in wealthy countries with comprehensive and sophisticated systems to report deaths, excess-mortality figures can be misleading. That’s because the most obvious way to calculate them can fail to account for changes in population structure.
sounds like it'll be tough to figure out who "won" and "lost" covid. might have to go back in this thread to figure out meeself.
So far, 980,000 Americans lost..
what matters is how we did vs. other countries.
Yep. We beat Ecuador
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runrussellrun wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:33 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:53 pm Baricitinib, anti-inflamitory, found to have positive outcomes in hospitalized patients. Part of the RECOVERY trial.

Preprint: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 22271623v1
thank you for the link (apologize for the rant....forgot THIS drug was given to me....thank goodness for Dr. Wolfgang Fitz. The man loves funky socks )

Before I dig around more, in this information....first poke at looking, can't find data on trumped or not trumped (vaxxed, versus NOT being )

Is the differentiation in THIS link? Figured, it would include that, but, that might reveal that the fully vaccinated, were, indeed, being admitted into our health care systems "hospitals".

So, the ask is....should I keep looking for data breakdowns, and find columns with heading; vaccinated with.......?


the actual specific vaccine, would also be nice, in these types of reports, also.........sick of reading studies that include ONLY the mRna shots.
Received a COVID-19 vaccine 1755 (42%) 1665 (42%)
Second to last page in the PDF download.
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Bart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:47 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:33 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:53 pm Baricitinib, anti-inflamitory, found to have positive outcomes in hospitalized patients. Part of the RECOVERY trial.

Preprint: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 22271623v1
thank you for the link (apologize for the rant....forgot THIS drug was given to me....thank goodness for Dr. Wolfgang Fitz. The man loves funky socks )

Before I dig around more, in this information....first poke at looking, can't find data on trumped or not trumped (vaxxed, versus NOT being )

Is the differentiation in THIS link? Figured, it would include that, but, that might reveal that the fully vaccinated, were, indeed, being admitted into our health care systems "hospitals".

So, the ask is....should I keep looking for data breakdowns, and find columns with heading; vaccinated with.......?


the actual specific vaccine, would also be nice, in these types of reports, also.........sick of reading studies that include ONLY the mRna shots.
Received a COVID-19 vaccine 1755 (42%) 1665 (42%)
Second to last page in the PDF download.
OK, thank you...will open it back up. (not sure what your #'s mean

2nd to the last page, you don't say ;)

EDIT:

Wow......doesn't bode well for vaccine efficasy , especially, when the easily controlled outcome (ummm, essentially OLD, white males, with a turd ton of health issues, which is also listed on your table. , were part of this $tudy (again, perfect information, thank you for it. ) If the green turtle guy, wgdrs doesn't have me blocked, he really would be interested in those vaccine numbers. Actually, we all should.

This study, if we like what it presents, we guess, to moi is actually proving that the vaccines don't come close to what the FDA approval application language said it would do. Ah....who cares......take another pill.

Hopefully , this will be approved by the next Superbowl, or SofU. Only, Lilly is a private drug dealer, family owned. Or, is that another, different , drug dealer. Harvard remove the name yet, Sakler Hall ? Hopefully, the Sakler Art gallery, on the DC mall, isn't the same family. But tear down Tommy J's statue...........

S...is always a good Ipod shuffle....lots of anger in Souixesse and the Banshees, Sex pistols, stereolab, even tho in more of a Wolfmother mood.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:06 pm
wgdsr wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:50 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:24 pm Going to tick over 980,000 dead Americans today.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00104-8

That is why researchers quickly turned to excess mortality as a proxy measure of the pandemic’s toll. Excess-death figures are seemingly easy to calculate: compare deaths during the pandemic with the average recorded over the previous five years or so. But even in wealthy countries with comprehensive and sophisticated systems to report deaths, excess-mortality figures can be misleading. That’s because the most obvious way to calculate them can fail to account for changes in population structure.
sounds like it'll be tough to figure out who "won" and "lost" covid. might have to go back in this thread to figure out meeself.
So far, 980,000 Americans lost..
what matters is how we did vs. other countries.
Yep. We beat Ecuador
good to see the certainty still remains on fanlax!
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runrussellrun wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:52 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:47 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:33 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:53 pm Baricitinib, anti-inflamitory, found to have positive outcomes in hospitalized patients. Part of the RECOVERY trial.

Preprint: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 22271623v1
thank you for the link (apologize for the rant....forgot THIS drug was given to me....thank goodness for Dr. Wolfgang Fitz. The man loves funky socks )

Before I dig around more, in this information....first poke at looking, can't find data on trumped or not trumped (vaxxed, versus NOT being )

Is the differentiation in THIS link? Figured, it would include that, but, that might reveal that the fully vaccinated, were, indeed, being admitted into our health care systems "hospitals".

So, the ask is....should I keep looking for data breakdowns, and find columns with heading; vaccinated with.......?


the actual specific vaccine, would also be nice, in these types of reports, also.........sick of reading studies that include ONLY the mRna shots.
Received a COVID-19 vaccine 1755 (42%) 1665 (42%)
Second to last page in the PDF download.
OK, thank you...will open it back up. (not sure what your #'s mean

2nd to the last page, you don't say ;)
always put the data at the end in a preprint.
The percentage is the percentage of each arm of the trial that were vaccinated...both about 42% I believe.
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Bart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:05 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:52 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:47 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:33 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:53 pm Baricitinib, anti-inflamitory, found to have positive outcomes in hospitalized patients. Part of the RECOVERY trial.

Preprint: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 22271623v1
thank you for the link (apologize for the rant....forgot THIS drug was given to me....thank goodness for Dr. Wolfgang Fitz. The man loves funky socks )

Before I dig around more, in this information....first poke at looking, can't find data on trumped or not trumped (vaxxed, versus NOT being )

Is the differentiation in THIS link? Figured, it would include that, but, that might reveal that the fully vaccinated, were, indeed, being admitted into our health care systems "hospitals".

So, the ask is....should I keep looking for data breakdowns, and find columns with heading; vaccinated with.......?


the actual specific vaccine, would also be nice, in these types of reports, also.........sick of reading studies that include ONLY the mRna shots.
Received a COVID-19 vaccine 1755 (42%) 1665 (42%)
Second to last page in the PDF download.
OK, thank you...will open it back up. (not sure what your #'s mean

2nd to the last page, you don't say ;)
always put the data at the end in a preprint.
The percentage is the percentage of each arm of the trial that were vaccinated...both about 42% I believe.
first instinct sayz: who is benefitting. Life long habit.


am I wrong to interpret, based solely on these numbers, in this report, concluding that the vaccine efficasy numbers, in reality, are closer to a Bernie Madoff return summary, certainly according to pfizers FDA application and its claims, that showed returns and profits closer to what Nancy Pelosi or Dan Crenshaw, in reality, make off their investments.

...and what is up with only 90% of the "participants" testing positive for covid ? that seems odd, certainly thro the "final " numbers.....ah, whatever,

just more BS, feed the welfare crowd another grant. Heck,we have the grant #, from NIH....should I look it up, see how much the tax payers paid for this report ? The British side, funding this study ? well, many would be, or used to be, "friends " with Jeffrey & Jismell Max...and of course the Queen and family. Hey, look, it's ANDREW. Not making this up.......these are evil people. you think lacrosse is a small world :lol: :lol:
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runrussellrun wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:32 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:05 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:52 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:47 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:33 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:53 pm Baricitinib, anti-inflamitory, found to have positive outcomes in hospitalized patients. Part of the RECOVERY trial.

Preprint: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 22271623v1
thank you for the link (apologize for the rant....forgot THIS drug was given to me....thank goodness for Dr. Wolfgang Fitz. The man loves funky socks )

Before I dig around more, in this information....first poke at looking, can't find data on trumped or not trumped (vaxxed, versus NOT being )

Is the differentiation in THIS link? Figured, it would include that, but, that might reveal that the fully vaccinated, were, indeed, being admitted into our health care systems "hospitals".

So, the ask is....should I keep looking for data breakdowns, and find columns with heading; vaccinated with.......?


the actual specific vaccine, would also be nice, in these types of reports, also.........sick of reading studies that include ONLY the mRna shots.
Received a COVID-19 vaccine 1755 (42%) 1665 (42%)
Second to last page in the PDF download.
OK, thank you...will open it back up. (not sure what your #'s mean

2nd to the last page, you don't say ;)
always put the data at the end in a preprint.
The percentage is the percentage of each arm of the trial that were vaccinated...both about 42% I believe.
first instinct sayz: who is benefitting. Life long habit.


am I wrong to interpret, based solely on these numbers, in this report, concluding that the vaccine efficasy numbers, in reality, are closer to a Bernie Madoff return summary, certainly according to pfizers FDA application and its claims, that showed returns and profits closer to what Nancy Pelosi or Dan Crenshaw, in reality, make off their investments.

...and what is up with only 90% of the "participants" testing positive for covid ? that seems odd, certainly thro the "final " numbers.....ah, whatever,

just more BS, feed the welfare crowd another grant. Heck,we have the grant #, from NIH....should I look it up, see how much the tax payers paid for this report ? The British side, funding this study ? well, many would be, or used to be, "friends " with Jeffrey & Jismell Max...and of course the Queen and family. Hey, look, it's ANDREW. Not making this up.......these are evil people. you think lacrosse is a small world :lol: :lol:
I don't think from this report you can conclude anything about the efficacy numbers. It is not the primary outcome or even secondary outcome. Nothing regarding the vaccine is tested in this study.
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Bart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:00 pm

I don't think from this report you can conclude anything about the efficacy numbers. It is not the primary outcome or even secondary outcome. Nothing regarding the vaccine is tested in this study.
Not sure what you mean by "tested", it's just a number. like 42%, in both groups already had diabetes. Or 31% had heart issues, or......42 %, in both groups, those that got the drug ,the others getting "usual" care, were SICK with covid. So how does this not mean that 42% of those hospitalized for covid, got the shots to PREVENT covid. Or less, or no hostpital.......

keep in mind, the "study" claims the average age of the participants, to be 58 years old.

Just thinking is would be wrong, misinformation, to say ONLY the unvaxxed are going to the hospital. This study clearly sayz 42 % of the hospitalized , with covid, were fully vaccinated. I guess, 6 goals is MORE than 4 goals, accurate to make the claim MORE unvaxxed go to hospital......but, but, but. more research, just take it....no side effects, long term....ahhha Unless, no one is saying that any longer ? :roll:

It was a few weeks ago , we guess. why is crap like this allowed and considered "factual" I feel embarrassed for people who believe these "fact checkers". clowns.

https://news.yahoo.com/mayo-clinic-expe ... 10013.html

Mayo Clinic expert: Unvaccinated people are 'playing Russian roulette' with COVID-19

https://time.com/6138566/pandemic-of-unvaccinated/

and


https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ed-people/
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https://fortune.com/2022/02/04/fully-va ... nated/amp/

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... cinedeaths

People should do all they can to reduce the chance of contracting COVID-19 or reduce the chances of a serious case of COVID-19. Heart problems is no joke. People that contracted COVID-19 prior to vaccination could be ticking time bombs. Vaccines save lives.
“I wish you would!”
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