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by cradleandshoot » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 am
Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
You have heck this forum up to making it nothing more than a joke. I hope you are happy.
This is cradle and shoot signing out.
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CU88 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:02 pm I will withold comment


https://cornellbigred.com/news/2022/3/2 ... etics.aspx
Your no comment speaks loudly on how you really feel about his retirement. I have the feeling that this alumni of 1978 has the exact same feeling about his retirement that is expressed succinctly in your no comment.
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Re: Cornell 2022

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Some additional observations on the Hobart game (sorry if repetitive - as i know a lot has been covered above).

[*] This to me was a good win against a quality opponent. Hobart is a veteran team that will beat some good teams. Yes - it was an ugly first quarter followed by a mediocre second quarter. But to follow that with a 12-2 run for Q3 and half of Q4! Impressive. The defense held a high powered offense to a mere 7 goals until eight minutes remained in the game. And while Hobart put up a very nice run of goals at the end - the defense deserves a ton of credit. Particularly in the middle of the field. The riding and pressure all of the field was the difference.
[*] Credit to the coaching staff for halftime adjustments. Moving 11 to X was a game changer. He ignited the second half offense in many ways. And with Long likely back soon - the options for Cornell are many and the offense will only improve. Of note however is that it looked like Lombardi suffered an injury. He is a key player that sets a physical tone and we can only hope it is not a serious injury.
[*] Big performances by 77 - 46 - 17 - 28 - 27 - 2 - 15 - 11. 77 was brilliant again, holding Mott to one shot. He should be in the discussion of top poles in the country. no question. Petrakis getting better each game and got the best of a very good opponent. The offense had great ball movement after a sluggish start and really spread the wealth around.
[*] As noted, Coyle was huge. Moved to X in second half and was all over the place. Scored lefty and righty on speed dodges, in tight off of a missed shot and had a sweet skip pass to 27 for a monster step down. The move to X seemed to really calm the offense down and allowed them to open up. A veteran making the move to a tough position mid-game to spark the team.
[*] The knocks? Certainly the start of the game was not good. It seemed like every player was rushing - not taking the extra cradle to make a safe pass, etc. We got away with it last night, but against stronger teams we will find ourselves with a much larger deficit. Chayse made some very nice saves in Q2 and allowed the team to hang on until the offense woke up.
[*] Hobart's end of game run was a little disheartening. But with an 8-goal lead - Cornell was not on the gloves like they needed to be and were simply giving too much room to attackers. But credit to Hobart for not going quietly.
[*] Face offs and wing play were improved. 17 and 46 are very good in the middle of the field. Make it look easy sometimes. Petrakis played hard and got the ball off the ground well. Still needs to sprint away from trouble on occasion with more urgency. Blake also a weapon in open field. He glides and has a long stride - and is deceivingly fast.

An excellent OSU team descends on the Kopf on Saturday and will bring a very stiff challenge to the Red. But after three games - to be at 3-0 with some signs of excellent play at nearly all phases of the game - the challenges are not insurmountable. Credit to the coaching staff again. Well done all around. LGR!!

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joewillie78 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:37 pm Your no comment speaks loudly on how you really feel about his retirement. I have the feeling that this alumni of 1978 has the exact same feeling about his retirement that is expressed succinctly in your no comment.
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Now we have to hope that his successor is actually better at the job, which is far from guaranteed.
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I heard it’s going to be Kerwick.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Velvet.Fog wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:26 pm [*] Credit to the coaching staff for halftime adjustments. Moving 11 to X was a game changer.
I would call that a one-and-half-time adjustment. Like many here, I thought Coyle should have been Long's replacement all along. I presume he was not because of a desire to preserve the composition of the two O midfields. When Lombardi went down, that reason no longer held, and Coyle got moved to attack.

When Long comes back, we need to see Coyle at mid on some inverts.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:10 pm I heard it’s going to be Kerwick.
LOL! Poor Matt. I was a big supporter of his when he was first hired, but he eventually lost me with his constant and incoherent line-up shuffling that accomplished nothing.
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CU77 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:13 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:10 pm I heard it’s going to be Kerwick.
LOL! Poor Matt. I was a big supporter of his when he was first hired, but he eventually lost me with his constant and incoherent line-up shuffling that accomplished nothing.
He’s a nice guy but recruiter and assistant coach is his Peter principle.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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With regard to AD matters, there are two things that concern me going forward:

1. Lacrosse is one of the premier "assets" in the portfolio of Cornell sports. It has, too often, been a bit of a political "football" with respect to who controls the program, the AD or the coaches. Currently, we have alignment between the AD and the lacrosse program. I sincerely hope that the new person can recognize the virtuous cycle that we are on, and let the program develop without unneeded drama. I hope that they do not use lacrosse as a springboard for cementing their new position through micro management.

2. Within the Cornell community, there are opinions that athletics is an outmoded concept for a serious research university. During Covid, some voices were calling for DIII as a better place for Cornell sports. I do hope that the next AD keeps excellence in DI sports as their primary objective.
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faircornell wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:27 pm I do hope that the next AD keeps excellence in DI sports as their primary objective.
That's going to depend entirely on what the upper admin thinks, which will strongly influence who they hire.

NOW is the time to contact President Pollack ([email protected]) and Provost Kotlikoff ([email protected]) to express your opinion.
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CU77 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:45 pm
faircornell wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:27 pm I do hope that the next AD keeps excellence in DI sports as their primary objective.
That's going to depend entirely on what the upper admin thinks, which will strongly influence who they hire.

NOW is the time to contact President Pollack ([email protected]) and Provost Kotlikoff ([email protected]) to express your opinion.
Money talks. Like every program at every college/university, you need the deep pocket donors to make their wishes known. Yes a $1 Bn plus endowment lessens their influence. But, all admins care about real $$$
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oldbartman wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:59 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:45 pm
faircornell wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:27 pm I do hope that the next AD keeps excellence in DI sports as their primary objective.
That's going to depend entirely on what the upper admin thinks, which will strongly influence who they hire.

NOW is the time to contact President Pollack ([email protected]) and Provost Kotlikoff ([email protected]) to express your opinion.
Money talks. Like every program at every college/university, you need the deep pocket donors to make their wishes known. Yes a $1 Bn plus endowment lessens their influence. But, all admins care about real $$$
The issue with mens lacrosse is that it consists of a large number of small to medium sized donors. In aggregate, this is one of the top five donor sports at Cornell (without numbers in front of me, I think that football, crew and 150's football have larger budgets). Also, the lacrosse program has an endowment that's been raised over the past 25ish years that is significant. Thus, it will take many lacrosse voices to make an opinion heard. Generally, the personal financial involvement of the Cornell Trustees in donating to the indoor facility is a good sign of trustee support for athletics. That might help as well.
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faircornell wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:27 pm With regard to AD matters, there are two things that concern me going forward:

1. Lacrosse is one of the premier "assets" in the portfolio of Cornell sports. It has, too often, been a bit of a political "football" with respect to who controls the program, the AD or the coaches. Currently, we have alignment between the AD and the lacrosse program. I sincerely hope that the new person can recognize the virtuous cycle that we are on, and let the program develop without unneeded drama. I hope that they do not use lacrosse as a springboard for cementing their new position through micro management.

2. Within the Cornell community, there are opinions that athletics is an outmoded concept for a serious research university. During Covid, some voices were calling for DIII as a better place for Cornell sports. I do hope that the next AD keeps excellence in DI sports as their primary objective.
The Ivy League would have to go DIII for Cornell to go DIII IMO. Maybe I have blinders on, but I don't ever see Cornell leaving the Ivy League to go DIII on its own.
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Cornell has been exceptional at competing at the D1 level in many sports with the obvious examples of Lax, Hockey , Wrestling and yes, even basketball, as we went to the sweet16 , about 10 years ago. Look, I love D3, but Cornell and the Ivy League are D1 , and that's where we belong, and I doubt a new AD will think anything but remaining D1.
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faircornell wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:27 pm With regard to AD matters, there are two things that concern me going forward:

1. Lacrosse is one of the premier "assets" in the portfolio of Cornell sports. It has, too often, been a bit of a political "football" with respect to who controls the program, the AD or the coaches. Currently, we have alignment between the AD and the lacrosse program. I sincerely hope that the new person can recognize the virtuous cycle that we are on, and let the program develop without unneeded drama. I hope that they do not use lacrosse as a springboard for cementing their new position through micro management.

2. Within the Cornell community, there are opinions that athletics is an outmoded concept for a serious research university. During Covid, some voices were calling for DIII as a better place for Cornell sports. I do hope that the next AD keeps excellence in DI sports as their primary objective.
Will all due respect(cough,cough) there are many top level universities that compete effectively in all sports at the D1 level. If SUNY Cornell would like to go D3 given its bankrupt Athletic Association, well, that's their call. However, the "...athletics is an outmoded concept for a serious research university" comment is as laughable as the "mask required" for outdoor events that Cornell ascribed to on Tuesday...
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FMUBart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:01 pm
faircornell wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:27 pm With regard to AD matters, there are two things that concern me going forward:

1. Lacrosse is one of the premier "assets" in the portfolio of Cornell sports. It has, too often, been a bit of a political "football" with respect to who controls the program, the AD or the coaches. Currently, we have alignment between the AD and the lacrosse program. I sincerely hope that the new person can recognize the virtuous cycle that we are on, and let the program develop without unneeded drama. I hope that they do not use lacrosse as a springboard for cementing their new position through micro management.

2. Within the Cornell community, there are opinions that athletics is an outmoded concept for a serious research university. During Covid, some voices were calling for DIII as a better place for Cornell sports. I do hope that the next AD keeps excellence in DI sports as their primary objective.
Will all due respect(cough,cough) there are many top level universities that compete effectively in all sports at the D1 level. If SUNY Cornell would like to go D3 given its bankrupt Athletic Association, well, that's their call. However, the "...athletics is an outmoded concept for a serious research university" comment is as laughable as the "mask required" for outdoor events that Cornell ascribed to on Tuesday...
Why don't you just butt out with your childish SUNY silliness.
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Gobigred wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:17 pm
FMUBart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:01 pm
faircornell wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:27 pm With regard to AD matters, there are two things that concern me going forward:

1. Lacrosse is one of the premier "assets" in the portfolio of Cornell sports. It has, too often, been a bit of a political "football" with respect to who controls the program, the AD or the coaches. Currently, we have alignment between the AD and the lacrosse program. I sincerely hope that the new person can recognize the virtuous cycle that we are on, and let the program develop without unneeded drama. I hope that they do not use lacrosse as a springboard for cementing their new position through micro management.

2. Within the Cornell community, there are opinions that athletics is an outmoded concept for a serious research university. During Covid, some voices were calling for DIII as a better place for Cornell sports. I do hope that the next AD keeps excellence in DI sports as their primary objective.
Will all due respect(cough,cough) there are many top level universities that compete effectively in all sports at the D1 level. If SUNY Cornell would like to go D3 given its bankrupt Athletic Association, well, that's their call. However, the "...athletics is an outmoded concept for a serious research university" comment is as laughable as the "mask required" for outdoor events that Cornell ascribed to on Tuesday...
Why don't you just butt out with your childish SUNY silliness.
My brother played basketball for Tom Miller and the Big Red back when. He attended the AG school at SUNY Cornell, I guess that's silly, eh?
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FMUBart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:22 pm
Gobigred wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:17 pm
FMUBart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:01 pm
faircornell wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:27 pm With regard to AD matters, there are two things that concern me going forward:

1. Lacrosse is one of the premier "assets" in the portfolio of Cornell sports. It has, too often, been a bit of a political "football" with respect to who controls the program, the AD or the coaches. Currently, we have alignment between the AD and the lacrosse program. I sincerely hope that the new person can recognize the virtuous cycle that we are on, and let the program develop without unneeded drama. I hope that they do not use lacrosse as a springboard for cementing their new position through micro management.

2. Within the Cornell community, there are opinions that athletics is an outmoded concept for a serious research university. During Covid, some voices were calling for DIII as a better place for Cornell sports. I do hope that the next AD keeps excellence in DI sports as their primary objective.
Will all due respect(cough,cough) there are many top level universities that compete effectively in all sports at the D1 level. If SUNY Cornell would like to go D3 given its bankrupt Athletic Association, well, that's their call. However, the "...athletics is an outmoded concept for a serious research university" comment is as laughable as the "mask required" for outdoor events that Cornell ascribed to on Tuesday...
Why don't you just butt out with your childish SUNY silliness.
My brother played basketball for Tom Miller and the Big Red back when. He attended the AG school at SUNY Cornell, I guess that's silly, eh?
Wow, then your brother played with or is?
1. Johnny Bajusz( best 3 point shooter we ever had and the only player Miller would give the green light.
2. Kenny Bantum (scary big man who was as tough as anybody.
3. Drew Palmer, Wolfgang Flores, Greg Gilda
4. And I believe Sam Givens or Josh Wexler was our other guard.
What teams those were and watching Miller's antics on the sideline which like his mentor, Robert Knight were sometimes way over the top.
One time, he grabbed Bajusz and threw him to the bench like he was a rag doll.
Great memories at Barton.
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joewillie78 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:31 pm
FMUBart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:22 pm
Gobigred wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:17 pm
FMUBart wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:01 pm
faircornell wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:27 pm With regard to AD matters, there are two things that concern me going forward:

1. Lacrosse is one of the premier "assets" in the portfolio of Cornell sports. It has, too often, been a bit of a political "football" with respect to who controls the program, the AD or the coaches. Currently, we have alignment between the AD and the lacrosse program. I sincerely hope that the new person can recognize the virtuous cycle that we are on, and let the program develop without unneeded drama. I hope that they do not use lacrosse as a springboard for cementing their new position through micro management.

2. Within the Cornell community, there are opinions that athletics is an outmoded concept for a serious research university. During Covid, some voices were calling for DIII as a better place for Cornell sports. I do hope that the next AD keeps excellence in DI sports as their primary objective.
Will all due respect(cough,cough) there are many top level universities that compete effectively in all sports at the D1 level. If SUNY Cornell would like to go D3 given its bankrupt Athletic Association, well, that's their call. However, the "...athletics is an outmoded concept for a serious research university" comment is as laughable as the "mask required" for outdoor events that Cornell ascribed to on Tuesday...
Why don't you just butt out with your childish SUNY silliness.
My brother played basketball for Tom Miller and the Big Red back when. He attended the AG school at SUNY Cornell, I guess that's silly, eh?
Wow, then your brother played with or is?
1. Johnny Bajusz( best 3 point shooter we ever had and the only player Miller would give the green light.
2. Kenny Bantum (scary big man who was as tough as anybody.
3. Drew Palmer, Wolfgang Flores, Greg Gilda
4. And I believe Sam Givens or Josh Wexler was our other guard.
What teams those were and watching Miller's antics on the sideline which like his mentor, Robert Knight were sometimes way over the top.
One time, he grabbed Bajusz and threw him to the bench like he was a rag doll.
Great memories at Barton.
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Does Bryan Colangelo have a brother? Actually, considering Bryan's use of burner accounts, are you Bryan? :)

Miller was something else. Knew the game inside and out, but his post-Cornell coaching career was underwhelming and the "antics" were too much for West Point.

And Ryan Wittman would like a word with you about who was the best 3 point shooter of all time for us (not saying you are wrong, but its really close).
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Re: Cornell 2022

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Special treat for Big Red fans, Mike French was this week's guest on the New England Lacrosse Journal podcast.

https://www.laxjournal.com/from-the-pod ... an-impact/
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