Never had it mustard makes me gag.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:39 pmHow is the Cuban?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:47 pm I’ve only had the single. Live less than 4 blocks away. My goal is to one day try the quadruple coronary bypass challenge.
*Place has a rep as best burgers in town, they also have a midtown spot, but the secret I know is the best thing there is a sandwich called the three little pigs.
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Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Just a heads up.........self appointed captain topic shamer IS serious about being serious about topics, and staying focused on THIS topic. This poster is playing golf, gas powered of course, and wanted me to chime in and ask, what he asks of others, stay on topic. please.Brooklyn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:21 pmFarfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:00 pmHow about this?
https://thevortexatl.com/menus/food-menu/
DOUBLE CORONARY BYPASS™
We use two griddled patty melt sandwiches as the top and bottom buns of this epic burger. Total ingredients include 4 slices of Texas toast, two 4-ounce griddled ground sirloin patties, one 8-ounce flame-grilled sirloin patty, 12 slices of American cheese, 2 fried eggs, 12 strips of bacon, grilled onions, diner relish and mayonnaise. Served with 10-ounces of fries & tots topped with Cheesy-Cheese Goo™ and bacon bits. – Estimated Calories with side: 4,541
Heavens!
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food discussions are "trolling".....oh, wait.......you guys can do it.
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Ok. I love them.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:54 pmNever had it mustard makes me gag.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:39 pmHow is the Cuban?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:47 pm I’ve only had the single. Live less than 4 blocks away. My goal is to one day try the quadruple coronary bypass challenge.
*Place has a rep as best burgers in town, they also have a midtown spot, but the secret I know is the best thing there is a sandwich called the three little pigs.
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My favorite sandwich. Had one of the best in Ybor city a few years back.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:39 pmHow is the Cuban?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:47 pm I’ve only had the single. Live less than 4 blocks away. My goal is to one day try the quadruple coronary bypass challenge.
*Place has a rep as best burgers in town, they also have a midtown spot, but the secret I know is the best thing there is a sandwich called the three little pigs.
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Yeah, RRR, it's a distraction, but it's not unpatriotic a-hole trolling.
Maybe you don't see the distinction but I do.
Maybe you don't see the distinction but I do.
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I’ll take you there when you make it to Atlanta. My treat. You just hve to have a meal with me!Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:02 pmOk. I love them.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:54 pmNever had it mustard makes me gag.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:39 pmHow is the Cuban?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:47 pm I’ve only had the single. Live less than 4 blocks away. My goal is to one day try the quadruple coronary bypass challenge.
*Place has a rep as best burgers in town, they also have a midtown spot, but the secret I know is the best thing there is a sandwich called the three little pigs.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Eh there was a starting point in my responding to Brooklyn who makes comparisons framing all variables in each scenario is equal to which he brought up burgers and it was near lunchtime. And it lightens the bulls**t around here and brings people together from the ledge. Proves there’s humans amongst the bots and trolls on here.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:03 pm Yeah, RRR, it's a distraction, but it's not unpatriotic a-hole trolling.
Maybe you don't see the distinction but I do.
Coming full circle it’s clear Trips is not familiar with dynamic models and the ability to think beyond binary outcomes/circumstances.
Metacognition is classified into three components:[12]
Metacognitive knowledge (also called metacognitive awareness) is what individuals know about themselves and others as cognitive processors.
Metacognitive regulation is the regulation of cognition and learning experiences through a set of activities that help people control their learning.
Metacognitive experiences are those experiences that have something to do with the current, on-going cognitive endeavor.
Metacognition refers to a level of thinking that involves active control over the process of thinking that is used in learning situations. Planning the way to approach a learning task, monitoring comprehension, and evaluating the progress towards the completion of a task: these are skills that are metacognitive in their nature.
Metacognition includes at least three different types of metacognitive awareness when considering metacognitive knowledge:[13]
Declarative knowledge: refers to knowledge about oneself as a learner and about what factors can influence one's performance.[2] Declarative knowledge can also be referred to as "world knowledge".[14]
Procedural knowledge: refers to knowledge about doing things. This type of knowledge is displayed as heuristics and strategies.[2] A high degree of procedural knowledge can allow individuals to perform tasks more automatically. This is achieved through a large variety of strategies that can be accessed more efficiently.[15]
Conditional knowledge: refers to knowing when and why to use declarative and procedural knowledge.[16] It allows students to allocate their resources when using strategies. This in turn allows the strategies to become more effective.[17]
Similar to metacognitive knowledge, metacognitive regulation or "regulation of cognition" contains three skills that are essential.[2][18]
Planning: refers to the appropriate selection of strategies and the correct allocation of resources that affect task performance.
Monitoring: refers to one's awareness of comprehension and task performance
Evaluating: refers to appraising the final product of a task and the efficiency at which the task was performed. This can include re-evaluating strategies that were used.
Similarly, maintaining motivation to see a task to completion is also a metacognitive skill. The ability to become aware of distracting stimuli – both internal and external – and sustain effort over time also involves metacognitive or executive functions. The theory that metacognition has a critical role to play in successful learning means it is important that it be demonstrated by both students and teachers.
Students who underwent metacognitive training including pretesting, self evaluation, and creating study plans performed better on exams.[19] They are self-regulated learners who utilize the "right tool for the job" and modify learning strategies and skills based on their awareness of effectiveness. Individuals with a high level of metacognitive knowledge and skill identify blocks to learning as early as possible and change "tools" or strategies to ensure goal attainment. Swanson (1990) found that metacognitive knowledge can compensate for IQ and lack of prior knowledge when comparing fifth and sixth grade students' problem solving. Students with a high-metacognition were reported to have used fewer strategies, but solved problems more effectively than low-metacognition students, regardless of IQ or prior knowledge.[20] In one study examining students who send text messages during college lectures, it was suggested that students with higher metacognitive abilities were less likely than other students to have their learning affected by using a mobile phone in class.[21]
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
— Bertrand Russell
Metacognologists are aware of their own strengths and weaknesses, the nature of the task at hand, and available "tools" or skills. A broader repertoire of "tools" also assists in goal attainment. When "tools" are general, generic, and context independent, they are more likely to be useful in different types of learning situations.
Another distinction in metacognition is executive management and strategic knowledge. Executive management processes involve planning, monitoring, evaluating and revising one's own thinking processes and products. Strategic knowledge involves knowing what (factual or declarative knowledge), knowing when and why (conditional or contextual knowledge) and knowing how (procedural or methodological knowledge). Both executive management and strategic knowledge metacognition are needed to self-regulate one's own thinking and learning.[22]
Finally, there is no distinction between domain-general and domain-specific metacognitive skills. This means that metacognitive skills are domain-general in nature and there are no specific skills for certain subject areas. The metacognitive skills that are used to review an essay are the same as those that are used to verify an answer to a math question.[23]
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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oh no, we ALL see the distinction.............MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:03 pm Yeah, RRR, it's a distraction, but it's not unpatriotic a-hole trolling.
Maybe you don't see the distinction but I do.
in fact, easy bet, if "essex" or "pete" added to the "distraction"....your head would explode.
the racist, white Suprimicists.....are Ukrainina, yes?
best hold off on the "unpatriotic" comments and being all rah rah about killing other humans. ...or, you can keep on listening to Hillary Clinton, once again on the "talk show" circuit, spewing her war mongering.....we know who butters your bread.
How many African countries wanna fight for freedom and "democrasy".....that we should invade, sanction ,etc. Anything going on in Peru?
at least you are consistent in your application of the rules. You mite not be admin, but you know who is
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What does fluid intelligence mean?
Fluid intelligence is the ability to think abstractly, reason quickly and problem solve independent of any previously acquired knowledge. You will have come across, or maybe you are someone who can take new information and formulate ideas, theories and even problem solve regardless of the information you have built over time with knowledge and experience.
When it comes to thinking about different types of intelligence, you may have been thinking about two specific kinds of intelligence and even people. Those who have the ability to come up with solutions without much prior knowledge and then there are those who have got a body of knowledge and specialist set of skills which have been acquired over time. The former can be defined as fluid intelligence, the later can however be defined as crystallized intelligence.
It is common to hear that over time, people feel like their intelligence is declining. However, it is more accurate to say that fluid intelligence can decline and crystallized intelligence can increase.
Think about puzzles or problem solving strategies. Fluid intelligence is the key to unlocking these particular areas because, you will not necessarily come up with the solution before, so that level of abstract thinking is essential to find solutions.
Whilst crystallized intelligence is essential for many different aspects of life and in the workplace, there is a growing need for more fluid intelligence as well. We are developing workplaces which require more abstract thinking to solve complex problems than previous generations and we require that learning to help us comprehend and learn at a greater pace as well.
Fluid intelligence is the ability to think abstractly, reason quickly and problem solve independent of any previously acquired knowledge. You will have come across, or maybe you are someone who can take new information and formulate ideas, theories and even problem solve regardless of the information you have built over time with knowledge and experience.
When it comes to thinking about different types of intelligence, you may have been thinking about two specific kinds of intelligence and even people. Those who have the ability to come up with solutions without much prior knowledge and then there are those who have got a body of knowledge and specialist set of skills which have been acquired over time. The former can be defined as fluid intelligence, the later can however be defined as crystallized intelligence.
It is common to hear that over time, people feel like their intelligence is declining. However, it is more accurate to say that fluid intelligence can decline and crystallized intelligence can increase.
Think about puzzles or problem solving strategies. Fluid intelligence is the key to unlocking these particular areas because, you will not necessarily come up with the solution before, so that level of abstract thinking is essential to find solutions.
Whilst crystallized intelligence is essential for many different aspects of life and in the workplace, there is a growing need for more fluid intelligence as well. We are developing workplaces which require more abstract thinking to solve complex problems than previous generations and we require that learning to help us comprehend and learn at a greater pace as well.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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RRR, I'm fine, though I disagree strongly, with Brooklyn's views...I do object to some of his hyperbole. But he's on topic.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:13 pmoh no, we ALL see the distinction.............MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:03 pm Yeah, RRR, it's a distraction, but it's not unpatriotic a-hole trolling.
Maybe you don't see the distinction but I do.
in fact, easy bet, if "essex" or "pete" added to the "distraction"....your head would explode.
the racist, white Suprimicists.....are Ukrainina, yes?
best hold off on the "unpatriotic" comments and being all rah rah about killing other humans. ...or, you can keep on listening to Hillary Clinton, once again on the "talk show" circuit, spewing her war mongering.....we know who butters your bread.
How many African countries wanna fight for freedom and "democrasy".....that we should invade, sanction ,etc. Anything going on in Peru?
at least you are consistent in your application of the rules. You mite not be admin, but you know who is
Petey and now especially Essex have gone way off topic to ridiculously take whacks at the POTUS entirely out of context.
Have an actual disagreement related to this topic, super...but the a-hole, partisan trolling for jollies is disgusting when we're discussing a situation as awful and dangerous as this one.
So are the "dementia" and "-tard" comments. Disgusting.
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runrussellrun wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:13 pmoh no, we ALL see the distinction.............MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:03 pm Yeah, RRR, it's a distraction, but it's not unpatriotic a-hole trolling.
Maybe you don't see the distinction but I do.
in fact, easy bet, if "essex" or "pete" added to the "distraction"....your head would explode.
the racist, white Suprimicists.....are Ukrainina, yes?
best hold off on the "unpatriotic" comments and being all rah rah about killing other humans. ...or, you can keep on listening to Hillary Clinton, once again on the "talk show" circuit, spewing her war mongering.....we know who butters your bread.
How many African countries wanna fight for freedom and "democrasy".....that we should invade, sanction ,etc. Anything going on in Peru?
at least you are consistent in your application of the rules. You mite not be admin, but you know who is
Distinctions? Ah yes, ummm ... Well, the world is hung up about Putin crossing the border and some folks appear to be calling for an Apocalyptic response to him (at least they do on other sites). As for those African countries, nobody got too excited when the Ethiopian-Sudan border conflict which continues to some extent and which has killed over 300,000 people took place. Refugee crisis was worse than Hell. We didn't see the media or political commentators say very much about that, did we?
That's 'crasy' aint it?
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That could be to link up with the Russian separatists in the Transnistria region who already hold a strip along the border.
That would not require the invasion & occupation of Moldova.
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Absolutely!Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:08 pmI’ll take you there when you make it to Atlanta. My treat. You just hve to have a meal with me!Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:02 pmOk. I love them.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:54 pmNever had it mustard makes me gag.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:39 pmHow is the Cuban?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:47 pm I’ve only had the single. Live less than 4 blocks away. My goal is to one day try the quadruple coronary bypass challenge.
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whatever natural resources , are still being harvested and not in "dispute". You can tell, by the mentions of the African continent conflicts, by counting them........all the comments and topics .Brooklyn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:22 pmrunrussellrun wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:13 pmoh no, we ALL see the distinction.............MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:03 pm Yeah, RRR, it's a distraction, but it's not unpatriotic a-hole trolling.
Maybe you don't see the distinction but I do.
in fact, easy bet, if "essex" or "pete" added to the "distraction"....your head would explode.
the racist, white Suprimicists.....are Ukrainina, yes?
best hold off on the "unpatriotic" comments and being all rah rah about killing other humans. ...or, you can keep on listening to Hillary Clinton, once again on the "talk show" circuit, spewing her war mongering.....we know who butters your bread.
How many African countries wanna fight for freedom and "democrasy".....that we should invade, sanction ,etc. Anything going on in Peru?
at least you are consistent in your application of the rules. You mite not be admin, but you know who is
Distinctions? Ah yes, ummm ... Well, the world is hung up about Putin crossing the border and some folks appear to be calling for an Apocalyptic response to him (at least they do on other sites). As for those African countries, nobody got too excited when the Ethiopian-Sudan border conflict which continues to some extent and which has killed over 300,000 people took place. Refugee crisis was worse than Hell. We didn't see the media or political commentators say very much about that, did we?
That's 'crasy' aint it?
Burimsa is an electric bicycle company, correct?
As long as Hillary, keeps on beating the war drum, the pretends will lap it up.
Good thing good ole Joe didn't mention Raytheon or Blackwater/stoned, like he did Pfizer. Can't have TOO many commercials in the United States, state of the Union address, now can we.
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By any chance, did Uncle Joe mention George Floyd and genocidal cops - you know, the kind of stuff those of us in the inner cities worry about every day? The one part of his speech that was highlighted in our local media was that he pledged no American troops in Russia. Well, that's a relief - for now.
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How long will the war last ?
from today's D brief by Defense One :
March 2, 2022
Four to six weeks. United States officials think it could take an invading Russian military about that long to achieve a "tactical seizure" of its outgunned democratic neighbor Ukraine. That includes one week to surround the capital city of Kyiv, and another 30 days of violence and threats before it falls to the increasingly isolated bully from Moscow, according to CBS News. U.S. lawmakers were given those estimates at a briefing Monday in Washington.
But more broadly, Western officials are expecting something more like a 10-year battle for the entire country, with most Ukrainians spending nearly all of that time in insurgency mode. "Given the durability of the Ukrainian resistance and its long history of pushing Russia back, the U.S. and Western powers do not believe that this will be a short war," David Martin of CBS reported Tuesday. Indeed, "Lawmakers at the Capitol were told Monday it is likely to last 10, 15 or 20 years—and that ultimately, Russia will lose."
Meanwhile, Russia appears to be taking incredible battlefield losses, possibly around 1,500-2,000 troop deaths so far, according to conservative estimates Western officials offered the New York Times on Tuesday. "For a comparison, nearly 2,500 American troops were killed in Afghanistan over 20 years of war."
What's perhaps more alarming for Moscow, the Times' Helene Cooper and Eric Schmitt write, "Russian memories are long—and mothers of soldiers, in particular, American officials say, could easily hark back to the 15,000 troops killed when the Soviet Union invaded and occupied Afghanistan, or the thousands killed in Chechnya."
That could help account for the Kremlin's aggressive clampdown on information coming into and out of the country, as evidenced by the shuttering of independent-leaning news outlets this week like TV channel Dozhd TV and radio station Ekho Moskvy, which were shut down for allegedly spreading "false information regarding the actions of Russian military personnel as part of a special operation" in Ukraine. Britain's Independent has a bit more.
New: Google has removed labels from its Ukrainian maps after alleged tagging of gas stations, hospitals, and schools that could possibly have aided Russian air force and artillery missions, Buzzfeed News reported Tuesday. (And on this note, Russia appears to have been using a crowdsourcing app to scout airstrike locations inside Ukraine, too. That firm, Premise, caught wind of the allegation and shut down operations inside Ukraine over the weekend.)
By the way: A dizzying number of tech firms have stepped up to help marginalize disinformation from Russian state-sponsored media like Sputnik and RT. That includes YouTube, which is now blocking those two outlets across all of Europe. Meta on Tuesday decided to reduce the visibility of Russian state-run outlets in its search results across Facebook and Instagram. And Apple suspended product sales inside Russia—as well as removing RT and Sputnik from its App Store. Reddit had to close two channels Tuesday (r/Russia and r/RussiaPolitics) because of rampant misinformation, Mashable reported Tuesday.
Pentagon chief Lloyd Austin rang his Ukrainian counterpart Tuesday. Austin and Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov spoke about Ukrainians' "courageous efforts to defend their sovereignty and territory in the face of Russia's unprovoked and vicious invasion," according to the Defense Department's readout. "The leaders committed to continuing their close coordination during this war that Russia alone has started," the Pentagon said.
For the first time, the U.S. Army has activated its prepositioned stock of vehicles and equipment staged in eastern Europe, Army Times reported Tuesday. "Included in the equipment issue are tracked vehicles like the M1 Abrams main battle tank and M2 Bradley fighting vehicle. Also included are Paladins, generators, Joint Light Tactical Vehicles and more."
Who wants a no-fly zone for Ukraine? Other than Ukraine's president, very few people who know anything about prior NFZs are advocating for it. The latest public figure to quash talk on the matter was Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., who tweeted Tuesday, "There's been a lot of loose talk from smart people about 'close air support' and 'no fly zones' for Ukraine."
"Let's just be clear what that is—the U.S. and Russia at war," he said. "It's a bad idea and Congress would never authorize it."
Unsurprisingly, China says it won't sanction Russia over its invasion, Beijing's top banker and financial regulator announced Wednesday. "We will not participate in such sanctions, and we will continue to maintain normal economic, trade, and financial exchanges with relevant parties," said Guo Shuqing. He also said he's unsure how sanctions will impact China's economy, but he's got people watching the matter.
from today's D brief by Defense One :
March 2, 2022
Four to six weeks. United States officials think it could take an invading Russian military about that long to achieve a "tactical seizure" of its outgunned democratic neighbor Ukraine. That includes one week to surround the capital city of Kyiv, and another 30 days of violence and threats before it falls to the increasingly isolated bully from Moscow, according to CBS News. U.S. lawmakers were given those estimates at a briefing Monday in Washington.
But more broadly, Western officials are expecting something more like a 10-year battle for the entire country, with most Ukrainians spending nearly all of that time in insurgency mode. "Given the durability of the Ukrainian resistance and its long history of pushing Russia back, the U.S. and Western powers do not believe that this will be a short war," David Martin of CBS reported Tuesday. Indeed, "Lawmakers at the Capitol were told Monday it is likely to last 10, 15 or 20 years—and that ultimately, Russia will lose."
Meanwhile, Russia appears to be taking incredible battlefield losses, possibly around 1,500-2,000 troop deaths so far, according to conservative estimates Western officials offered the New York Times on Tuesday. "For a comparison, nearly 2,500 American troops were killed in Afghanistan over 20 years of war."
What's perhaps more alarming for Moscow, the Times' Helene Cooper and Eric Schmitt write, "Russian memories are long—and mothers of soldiers, in particular, American officials say, could easily hark back to the 15,000 troops killed when the Soviet Union invaded and occupied Afghanistan, or the thousands killed in Chechnya."
That could help account for the Kremlin's aggressive clampdown on information coming into and out of the country, as evidenced by the shuttering of independent-leaning news outlets this week like TV channel Dozhd TV and radio station Ekho Moskvy, which were shut down for allegedly spreading "false information regarding the actions of Russian military personnel as part of a special operation" in Ukraine. Britain's Independent has a bit more.
New: Google has removed labels from its Ukrainian maps after alleged tagging of gas stations, hospitals, and schools that could possibly have aided Russian air force and artillery missions, Buzzfeed News reported Tuesday. (And on this note, Russia appears to have been using a crowdsourcing app to scout airstrike locations inside Ukraine, too. That firm, Premise, caught wind of the allegation and shut down operations inside Ukraine over the weekend.)
By the way: A dizzying number of tech firms have stepped up to help marginalize disinformation from Russian state-sponsored media like Sputnik and RT. That includes YouTube, which is now blocking those two outlets across all of Europe. Meta on Tuesday decided to reduce the visibility of Russian state-run outlets in its search results across Facebook and Instagram. And Apple suspended product sales inside Russia—as well as removing RT and Sputnik from its App Store. Reddit had to close two channels Tuesday (r/Russia and r/RussiaPolitics) because of rampant misinformation, Mashable reported Tuesday.
Pentagon chief Lloyd Austin rang his Ukrainian counterpart Tuesday. Austin and Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov spoke about Ukrainians' "courageous efforts to defend their sovereignty and territory in the face of Russia's unprovoked and vicious invasion," according to the Defense Department's readout. "The leaders committed to continuing their close coordination during this war that Russia alone has started," the Pentagon said.
For the first time, the U.S. Army has activated its prepositioned stock of vehicles and equipment staged in eastern Europe, Army Times reported Tuesday. "Included in the equipment issue are tracked vehicles like the M1 Abrams main battle tank and M2 Bradley fighting vehicle. Also included are Paladins, generators, Joint Light Tactical Vehicles and more."
Who wants a no-fly zone for Ukraine? Other than Ukraine's president, very few people who know anything about prior NFZs are advocating for it. The latest public figure to quash talk on the matter was Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., who tweeted Tuesday, "There's been a lot of loose talk from smart people about 'close air support' and 'no fly zones' for Ukraine."
"Let's just be clear what that is—the U.S. and Russia at war," he said. "It's a bad idea and Congress would never authorize it."
Unsurprisingly, China says it won't sanction Russia over its invasion, Beijing's top banker and financial regulator announced Wednesday. "We will not participate in such sanctions, and we will continue to maintain normal economic, trade, and financial exchanges with relevant parties," said Guo Shuqing. He also said he's unsure how sanctions will impact China's economy, but he's got people watching the matter.
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Good stuff; thanks.old salt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:05 pm How long will the war last ?
from today's D brief by Defense One :
March 2, 2022
Four to six weeks. United States officials think it could take an invading Russian military about that long to achieve a "tactical seizure" of its outgunned democratic neighbor Ukraine. That includes one week to surround the capital city of Kyiv, and another 30 days of violence and threats before it falls to the increasingly isolated bully from Moscow, according to CBS News. U.S. lawmakers were given those estimates at a briefing Monday in Washington.
But more broadly, Western officials are expecting something more like a 10-year battle for the entire country, with most Ukrainians spending nearly all of that time in insurgency mode. "Given the durability of the Ukrainian resistance and its long history of pushing Russia back, the U.S. and Western powers do not believe that this will be a short war," David Martin of CBS reported Tuesday. Indeed, "Lawmakers at the Capitol were told Monday it is likely to last 10, 15 or 20 years—and that ultimately, Russia will lose."
Meanwhile, Russia appears to be taking incredible battlefield losses, possibly around 1,500-2,000 troop deaths so far, according to conservative estimates Western officials offered the New York Times on Tuesday. "For a comparison, nearly 2,500 American troops were killed in Afghanistan over 20 years of war."
What's perhaps more alarming for Moscow, the Times' Helene Cooper and Eric Schmitt write, "Russian memories are long—and mothers of soldiers, in particular, American officials say, could easily hark back to the 15,000 troops killed when the Soviet Union invaded and occupied Afghanistan, or the thousands killed in Chechnya."
That could help account for the Kremlin's aggressive clampdown on information coming into and out of the country, as evidenced by the shuttering of independent-leaning news outlets this week like TV channel Dozhd TV and radio station Ekho Moskvy, which were shut down for allegedly spreading "false information regarding the actions of Russian military personnel as part of a special operation" in Ukraine. Britain's Independent has a bit more.
New: Google has removed labels from its Ukrainian maps after alleged tagging of gas stations, hospitals, and schools that could possibly have aided Russian air force and artillery missions, Buzzfeed News reported Tuesday. (And on this note, Russia appears to have been using a crowdsourcing app to scout airstrike locations inside Ukraine, too. That firm, Premise, caught wind of the allegation and shut down operations inside Ukraine over the weekend.)
By the way: A dizzying number of tech firms have stepped up to help marginalize disinformation from Russian state-sponsored media like Sputnik and RT. That includes YouTube, which is now blocking those two outlets across all of Europe. Meta on Tuesday decided to reduce the visibility of Russian state-run outlets in its search results across Facebook and Instagram. And Apple suspended product sales inside Russia—as well as removing RT and Sputnik from its App Store. Reddit had to close two channels Tuesday (r/Russia and r/RussiaPolitics) because of rampant misinformation, Mashable reported Tuesday.
Pentagon chief Lloyd Austin rang his Ukrainian counterpart Tuesday. Austin and Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov spoke about Ukrainians' "courageous efforts to defend their sovereignty and territory in the face of Russia's unprovoked and vicious invasion," according to the Defense Department's readout. "The leaders committed to continuing their close coordination during this war that Russia alone has started," the Pentagon said.
For the first time, the U.S. Army has activated its prepositioned stock of vehicles and equipment staged in eastern Europe, Army Times reported Tuesday. "Included in the equipment issue are tracked vehicles like the M1 Abrams main battle tank and M2 Bradley fighting vehicle. Also included are Paladins, generators, Joint Light Tactical Vehicles and more."
Who wants a no-fly zone for Ukraine? Other than Ukraine's president, very few people who know anything about prior NFZs are advocating for it. The latest public figure to quash talk on the matter was Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., who tweeted Tuesday, "There's been a lot of loose talk from smart people about 'close air support' and 'no fly zones' for Ukraine."
"Let's just be clear what that is—the U.S. and Russia at war," he said. "It's a bad idea and Congress would never authorize it."
Unsurprisingly, China says it won't sanction Russia over its invasion, Beijing's top banker and financial regulator announced Wednesday. "We will not participate in such sanctions, and we will continue to maintain normal economic, trade, and financial exchanges with relevant parties," said Guo Shuqing. He also said he's unsure how sanctions will impact China's economy, but he's got people watching the matter.
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Re: All Things Russia & Ukraine
Some more info on the 10-20 year take. Not sure Putin is alive in 10 years one way or the other, definitely not 20. And that's a ton of money to spend that Russia doesn't have and the rest of the world does have. There's videos of captured Russian rations 7 years expired. I know they last a long time, but if true, sheesh...
U.S. and Britain reportedly believe the Ukraine war could last 10-20 years, become a Russian quagmire
U.S. and Britain reportedly believe the Ukraine war could last 10-20 years, become a Russian quagmire
Re: All Things Russia & Ukraine
Leading questions in today's Pentagon briefing about a potential E-W partition of Ukraine, based on Russian concentration of forces, so far & anticipated. Adm Kirby talking around it, but not dismissing it.
Expect future questions about Zelensky & govt relocating W & how soon could US &/or NATO/coalition of the willing, deploy forces sufficient to hold a W enclave & airspace. A coalition of the US with Poland & Romania for land, air & sea access to move forces & suppiles could do it. Other willing coalition nations could join. NATO could formally remain at arms length. Willing members could join.
It would hinge upon what air bases/airports are still operable in the W ?
If a cease fire, Putin might settle for holding everything E of Kyiv in the N & Odessa to Transnistria in the S, & E of the Dnieper river, in between.
Ukraine could end up in a partitioned limbo like Syria & the Balkans.
Expect future questions about Zelensky & govt relocating W & how soon could US &/or NATO/coalition of the willing, deploy forces sufficient to hold a W enclave & airspace. A coalition of the US with Poland & Romania for land, air & sea access to move forces & suppiles could do it. Other willing coalition nations could join. NATO could formally remain at arms length. Willing members could join.
It would hinge upon what air bases/airports are still operable in the W ?
If a cease fire, Putin might settle for holding everything E of Kyiv in the N & Odessa to Transnistria in the S, & E of the Dnieper river, in between.
Ukraine could end up in a partitioned limbo like Syria & the Balkans.
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Russia doesn't have money? You actually believe this ?NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:36 pm Some more info on the 10-20 year take. Not sure Putin is alive in 10 years one way or the other, definitely not 20. And that's a ton of money to spend that Russia doesn't have and the rest of the world does have. There's videos of captured Russian rations 7 years expired. I know they last a long time, but if true, sheesh...
U.S. and Britain reportedly believe the Ukraine war could last 10-20 years, become a Russian quagmire
Russia essentially GAVE the United States their Alaska terrortory.........the real powerful don't need "money", ,as long as they control natural resources. Which, includes, humans.
Hello.....earth to China.........it's pretend liberals wanting Maryland Lacrosse hoodies to STAY made their.
Suprised you are forgetting the racist Ukranians in the east.....even cheer them on to "victory"
and don't even think you people know the first thing about this topic.......beyond what Ford Truck and "ask your doctor" news tell you.
Would you let ME follow you on your social media? exactly......closed, or open....
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