Johns Hopkins 2022

[jhu06]

Lost a starting attacker today in practice. Out 3-6 weeks with broken hand. Unfortunate.

20 voters in the IL media poll, baltimore is a major american city that supports 2 pro teams and a full d1 big ten program in maryland and I have to come here to learn anything new about the program.

What a media market and if true, now we found out what grant jr can really do.

[HappyGilmore]

Lost a starting attacker today in practice. Out 3-6 weeks with broken hand. Unfortunate.

20 voters in the IL media poll, baltimore is a major american city that supports 2 pro teams and a full d1 big ten program in maryland and I have to come here to learn anything new about the program.

What a media market and if true, now we found out what grant jr can really do.

What do mean “what grant jr can really do?” He hasn’t done anything yet. Is he going to dress and play in the next game?

[HappyGilmore]

He averages a point a game as a second middie/part time dm. I guess Hopkins didn’t get more out of him because they had such a surplus of fast, athletic middies!

What IS the point of being fast, if coach is always waving you into the pit stop during a fast break....you know, making the game about coaching, instead of actually doing it. Even, just the mindset, that coach is gonna get mad if I miss that fast break opportunity, IS enough to sow doubt. Hurting a players confidence, ever so slightly.

offensively, if you ain't confident, there IS a reason for it. Especially at the level Hopkins sells itself. Often times, player is the cause (out of shape, failure to develop shot.....

Coach Tiffany, is a student of the "coach confidence first" methods. For others to judge their own programs coaching staff.

Fast offense isn't the "only" gimmick Lars picked up from Coach Daly

Not sure 100% what you are saying with this post? JHU coaching is not great?????

[45wewantmore]

Chris Gray was able to get an SSDM match up anytime he wanted without having to work for it

sometimes #31 & #18 just switched off him without him even moving

Can someone please explain a defensive scheme where a Tewaaraton Finalist (91 pts 2021) is given an SSDM at will?

[runrussellrun]

He averages a point a game as a second middie/part time dm. I guess Hopkins didn’t get more out of him because they had such a surplus of fast, athletic middies!

What IS the point of being fast, if coach is always waving you into the pit stop during a fast break....you know, making the game about coaching, instead of actually doing it. Even, just the mindset, that coach is gonna get mad if I miss that fast break opportunity, IS enough to sow doubt. Hurting a players confidence, ever so slightly.

offensively, if you ain't confident, there IS a reason for it. Especially at the level Hopkins sells itself. Often times, player is the cause (out of shape, failure to develop shot.....

Coach Tiffany, is a student of the "coach confidence first" methods. For others to judge their own programs coaching staff.

Fast offense isn't the "only" gimmick Lars picked up from Coach Daly

Not sure 100% what you are saying with this post? JHU coaching is not great?????

This is real stat, used by real lacrosse coaches. the assist to turnover ratio shortned to "az hat"....a reflection that certain players don't know how to cradle under pressure....or pass poorly. Ya know, stick skills.

Zinn's rookie year, 2019, his "az hat " rating was ZERO. which is OK. Not great, but ok. Especially for rookie.

Last "covid season" ? Zinn's "az hat" rating was MINUS ten.......NOT ok. Horrible. way worse than his rookie year? Player......or lack of instruction?

Hopkins has a scoring problem.......a SHOOTING problem.....5 games in and Blue Jays are ranked 40th in shooting %.

Zinn went from not great shooting % rookie year (.179 ) to backup FOGO status, learning from the coaching staff to bolster his shooting percentage numbers, to , essentially, 8%.

His confidence, and hence positive, produtive numbers/stats, improved, or declined, during his 2 years with Petro, 1 with PM.

It must be the poor goaltending. When you're scoring much in PRACTICE......

someone please tell Kirson that "angle cut off" is ancient, silly thinking. Do soccer goalies, during a penalty shot, attack sideways, or do they try to "cut off the angle". Dude.....keep at least ONE foot on the goal line. Yes, way better to JUMP in the air, leaving the net wide open.

at least the Blue Jays are well stretched.........spending (wasting) 1/3 of practice time on yoga class

[HopFan16]

Chris Gray was able to get an SSDM match up anytime he wanted without having to work for it

sometimes #31 & #18 just switched off him without him even moving

Can someone please explain a defensive scheme where a Tewaaraton Finalist (91 pts 2021) is given an SSDM at will?

Not a single one of Gray's 7 goals came against a shortie. Which is impressive and somewhat terrifying in its own right but I digress:

1 - pole (#31) lost him off ball
2 - transition
3 - covered by a pole (pretty good D by #18 to force a fadeaway off Gray's back foot from 10 yards out, should have been saved)
4 - EMO
5 - pole (#31) went under a pick and gave him too much time and room — honestly should have switched the matchup there but didn't and it cost us
6 - pole (#31) lost off ball again and slide is late
7 - transition (#18 somehow makes it back after taking the faceoff himself, but slips on the wet grass)

He got onto a shortie a couple times, as good players do. You're never going to avoid it entirely. If that was happening significantly more than usual you'd think he'd have scored one of his 7 against one.

Transition D was really suspect against the Heels, which does not bode especially well for Saturday.

[HopFan16]

Lost a starting attacker today in practice. Out 3-6 weeks with broken hand. Unfortunate.

[runrussellrun]

Chris Gray was able to get an SSDM match up anytime he wanted without having to work for it

sometimes #31 & #18 just switched off him without him even moving

Can someone please explain a defensive scheme where a Tewaaraton Finalist (91 pts 2021) is given an SSDM at will?

#4's first goal, an all even affair (6 v 6 ) where Gray is WIDE open....no one on him, shot location G1Al3 (green, for right side of field, 1 for the location of shooter, etc. ) , in this case, Chris Gray is shooting, UNTOUCHED by even a stick......standing 2 yards from the circle. Even DocB has a great chance of scoring from this location. Horrible defense, fer sur......but NO ssd on him.

conversely, Hopkins next shot......#33 actually has his back foot on the restraining line, while shooting. great choice great shot selection. we call that a TURNOVER.

2nd goal: unsettled situation....
3rd goal: Gray scores, with #18 all over him, with a long pole in his hands
4th goal: as the stat line sayz.....Gray scores on a "player up" situation......
5th goal: basic pick wing play, Gray, with Hopkins player #31 another LONG pole ,covering him
6th goal: 5 on 5 situation, as fogo's are subbing off, Gray kind of hanging out, slightly below GLE. #2 for UNC, catches a pass, all alone, at around 18 yards away from the net.....a couple of crow hops...and slings a sidearm pass to a WIDE open Gray, who catches the ball just above GLE, with NO ONE on him. (stoopid, over coaching, over rotating defense....Hopkins 31 actually runs AWAY from Gray....but coaching
7th goal: Fast break goal off a face off win.

7 goals........and not ONE of them scored with a SSD covering him.

Chris Grays "az hat" rating is + 4..........

[nyjay]

Lost a starting attacker today in practice. Out 3-6 weeks with broken hand. Unfortunate.

Anyone want to enlighten the rest of us as to who?

[runrussellrun]

Lost a starting attacker today in practice. Out 3-6 weeks with broken hand. Unfortunate.

Anyone want to enlighten the rest of us as to who?

...it don't matter......the real question IS......why are Hopkins defenders whacking hands in practice, but not during games?

[HappyGilmore]

He averages a point a game as a second middie/part time dm. I guess Hopkins didn’t get more out of him because they had such a surplus of fast, athletic middies!

What IS the point of being fast, if coach is always waving you into the pit stop during a fast break....you know, making the game about coaching, instead of actually doing it. Even, just the mindset, that coach is gonna get mad if I miss that fast break opportunity, IS enough to sow doubt. Hurting a players confidence, ever so slightly.

offensively, if you ain't confident, there IS a reason for it. Especially at the level Hopkins sells itself. Often times, player is the cause (out of shape, failure to develop shot.....

Coach Tiffany, is a student of the "coach confidence first" methods. For others to judge their own programs coaching staff.

Fast offense isn't the "only" gimmick Lars picked up from Coach Daly

Not sure 100% what you are saying with this post? JHU coaching is not great?????

This is real stat, used by real lacrosse coaches. the assist to turnover ratio shortned to "az hat"....a reflection that certain players don't know how to cradle under pressure....or pass poorly. Ya know, stick skills.

Zinn's rookie year, 2019, his "az hat " rating was ZERO. which is OK. Not great, but ok. Especially for rookie.

Last "covid season" ? Zinn's "az hat" rating was MINUS ten.......NOT ok. Horrible. way worse than his rookie year? Player......or lack of instruction?

Hopkins has a scoring problem.......a SHOOTING problem.....5 games in and Blue Jays are ranked 40th in shooting %.

Zinn went from not great shooting % rookie year (.179 ) to backup FOGO status, learning from the coaching staff to bolster his shooting percentage numbers, to , essentially, 8%.

His confidence, and hence positive, produtive numbers/stats, improved, or declined, during his 2 years with Petro, 1 with PM.

It must be the poor goaltending. When you're scoring much in PRACTICE......

someone please tell Kirson that "angle cut off" is ancient, silly thinking. Do soccer goalies, during a penalty shot, attack sideways, or do they try to "cut off the angle". Dude.....keep at least ONE foot on the goal line. Yes, way better to JUMP in the air, leaving the net wide open.

at least the Blue Jays are well stretched.........spending (wasting) 1/3 of practice time on yoga class

So sounds like your not happy with the current coaching staff????

[51percentcorn]

Well - it kind of does matter unless you've thrown in the towel at 3-2 for the whole season. Saturday is a tough order regardless of who's playing I'll agree but then you have games you want to be competitive in and BIG starts 3 weeks from Saturday.

'06 the train has started to leave the rails again - thinking that the Sun or anyone should be stalking Hopkins men's lacrosse practices to uncover a hand injury to a single player is patently absurd.

I also think your characterization of Milliman's recruting is grossly unfair and ignores all context. Taking over the team in April of 20 his first order of priority was to figure out what he could put on the field in '21- he couldn't even meet his own current players in person until what 8-9 months later? Then he had virtually every player Petro had recruited for the class showing up for the 21 season decommit and he had to construct some sort of class without access to any "starred" players because all of them had committed elsewhere some 2 years prior. Finally, he had to be prepared to take on commitments from the kids showing up this fall in September of 2020 and since alot of recruiting was already in the works - the Petro situation affected that class as well. Clearly the twins - who were not likely to attend Hopkins reagrdless - were never going once their father was dismissed and players like Sunderland who apparently had interest in Hopkins - immediately went elsewhere.

Other posters suggest we should be excited about players like Collison, Marquis, Ayers etc. Need to give it some time

[BlueJaySince1947]

What's an " attacker " ?

[nyjay]

It's hard to be rational in the moment, 51, but you're undoubtedly right. Just imagine how much different the tone of this board would be if the f/o battle against UNC flipped and we'd won by one. The offense is actually concerning to me though - it just looks very stagnant and I don't think that's all on the players.

[runrussellrun]

His confidence, and hence positive, produtive numbers/stats, improved, or declined, during his 2 years with Petro, 1 with PM.

It must be the poor goaltending. When you're scoring much in PRACTICE......

someone please tell Kirson that "angle cut off" is ancient, silly thinking. Do soccer goalies, during a penalty shot, attack sideways, or do they try to "cut off the angle". Dude.....keep at least ONE foot on the goal line. Yes, way better to JUMP in the air, leaving the net wide open.

at least the Blue Jays are well stretched.........spending (wasting) 1/3 of practice time on yoga class

So sounds like your not happy with the current coaching staff????
[/quote]

this all things Hopkins, hater, couldn't be HAPPIER with the current coaching staff

If this weekends game is closer than 10 goals, it is only b/c UVA will be "live game" practicing some stuff, to artificially keep the score low.


A very laxmafia comment : "...IF Hopkins had...". Reality says, NO. no "ifs" Jacksonville is a quality team. It's 2022. Shall we forever bury these type of comments " do you REALLY think Jacksonville would beat Hopkins"....was it only , less than 5 years ago , they permeated the posts. still do.

better question, why DOENS"T Hopkins have a better FOGO than UNC, and other opponents? Coach K, won a championship as a fogo, and that old style, technique.....is all the rage. What gives ?

Has Bloomberg armed the Hopkins campus police yet? Interesting, that that was his "fix" for crime in Baltimore.

Not spending, just half, of his advertizing dollars for POTUSA campaign, on buying row houses, selling at $25k, per home, in the neighborhoods around campus, coupled with providing purpose for Baltimore's residents.

[runrussellrun]

Well - it kind of does matter unless you've thrown in the towel at 3-2 for the whole season. Saturday is a tough order regardless of who's playing I'll agree but then you have games you want to be competitive in and BIG starts 3 weeks from Saturday.

'06 the train has started to leave the rails again - thinking that the Sun or anyone should be stalking Hopkins men's lacrosse practices to uncover a hand injury to a single player is patently absurd.

I also think your characterization of Milliman's recruting is grossly unfair and ignores all context. Taking over the team in April of 20 his first order of priority was to figure out what he could put on the field in '21- he couldn't even meet his own current players in person until what 8-9 months later? Then he had virtually every player Petro had recruited for the class showing up for the 21 season decommit and he had to construct some sort of class without access to any "starred" players because all of them had committed elsewhere some 2 years prior. Finally, he had to be prepared to take on commitments from the kids showing up this fall in September of 2020 and since alot of recruiting was already in the works - the Petro situation affected that class as well. Clearly the twins - who were not likely to attend Hopkins reagrdless - were never going once their father was dismissed and players like Sunderland who apparently had interest in Hopkins - immediately went elsewhere.

Other posters suggest we should be excited about players like Collison, Marquis, Ayers etc. Need to give it some time

You are missing the elephant in the room

If you are allowed to GAMBLE on Johns Hopkins lacrosse........injuries to a "star" player affect the betting line in Vegas, yes?

The Vegas lacrosse betting lines are posted on these very threads. Before dropping a grand on betting Hopkins on the spread, wouldn't it be good to know that so and so is out for the season? Hopkins already has a 5 goal lead, according to Vegas, if the injury is to #3 or #32,, who is gonna score the other 10, or so, goals Hopkins will need to "win" the spread.

This is real life......and you are all Kjarened up over a reporter, allegadely, doing their job? Or Vegas'

who does do the Vegas line? what is the dollar amount , bet on college lacrosse? What IS the line for this game

Guess, "next player up" isnt a thing at a college lacrosse program that many claim have great instruction and player development, to go along with top ten recruiting classes. Not seeing a broken hand as much of an issue. Plenty of talent on the Hopkins program. So, we have been, told.

[runrussellrun]

Then he had virtually every player Petro had recruited for the class showing up for the 21 season decommit and he had to construct some sort of class

Didn't realize all of them. All these "decommits" would be sophomores, yes?

Who are they, and what colleges are they now playing? we mean, "playing", not that "preferred walkon" scam money grab type rich kid player....but a player.

If such great recruits, we would see them ripping it up at .....Denver? Bucknell? Harvard? Where are they playing?

[51percentcorn]

Then he had virtually every player Petro had recruited for the class showing up for the 21 season decommit and he had to construct some sort of class

Didn't realize all of them. All these "decommits" would be sophomores, yes?

Who are they, and what colleges are they now playing? we mean, "playing", not that "preferred walkon" scam money grab type rich kid player....but a player.

If such great recruits, we would see them ripping it up at .....Denver? Bucknell? Harvard? Where are they playing?

The class I am referring to are freshmen now. "Virtually every" is pretty close - you could parse semantics but wasn't Todaro/Teachout and maybe one other the only ones that stayed? The goalie was thought to be a huge loss - there were a couple of highly regarded middies I thought - Penn State and Notre Dame maybe - I honestly don't remember but I think the overall point is valid - recrruiting at Hopkins these days is tough to begin with - would be very tough in a coaching regime change - and a daunting task with all the COVID stuff thrown in.

[51percentcorn]

I must admit I completely forget about gambling - never enters my mind - I would want the young man in question to get back as soon as possible and I want the team to be successful.

In terms of another comment made - it seems we don't like yoga and stretching but we also don't like competition in practice that leads to potential injuries? Accidents happen - you need to go hard in practice - and without details it may be totally understandable.

[jhu06]

Baltimore has to be the most affordable big city on the east coast, has wonderful food, culture, camden yards, weather, music venues, and access to all sorts of different cities and recreation opportunities. What else does a young student want? Whenever I talk to prospective students or people it's the one thing I tell them they don't see in the prospective students handbooks and I didn't know coming in which is how wonderful a city it was to live in as a young person.