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The perennial powers all get great players. Some more, some less, but they all get great talent. Do other teams do more with their talent than UNC? Sometimes...
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That's me being fair and balanced. For years I said, UNC is where talented HS players go to die. I don't say this any more but I think it often...
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for sure. And that they won the National C'ship as an unseeded team was not lost on me. with this said, in the 21st Century, UNC has won a National C'ship the same number of times as Yale, Denver and Loyola. While UVA, SU, Duke, Maryland, JHU...
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Do you believe UNC’s recruiting picked up with the classes of 2019 and beyond?
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maryland's in the first group. and notre dame doesn't appear.
we can all cherry pick dates to go back. and as of 2016, their results including ff last year are better than years prior under breschi. so... they're on a roll?
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These class rankings very seldom stand up to retrospective review. Go through the top whatever and you find plenty of guys who did not last where they started or lost PT to late bloomers or unheralded players. Breschi gets some nice recruits, and some were early. If you're evaluating his coaching against a list and saying he doesn't get the most out of his players, well, he's got that ring.wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:05 pmmaryland's in the first group. and notre dame doesn't appear.
we can all cherry pick dates to go back. and as of 2016, their results including ff last year are better than years prior under breschi. so... they're on a roll?
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No. I think their recruiting has been great for a long time along with UVA, UMD, Duke, and many others.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:56 pm Do you believe UNC’s recruiting picked up with the classes of 2019 and beyond?
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No argument there. Pretty darn good in my era too.
One of the captains on the 2016 team is a good buddy of my son, classmates and teammates at Gilman. My son also played with the Kelly boys, Bones and Pat, on the same club teams during HS.
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A lot of good players.Matnum PI wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:19 pmNo. I think their recruiting has been great for a long time along with UVA, UMD, Duke, and many others.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:56 pm Do you believe UNC’s recruiting picked up with the classes of 2019 and beyond?
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Year after year, they get so many talented Baltimore boys and then several top players from LI and... and... and. And then they, from where I'm sitting, underperform. Obviously not every year. But seemingly often.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:20 pm One of the captains on the 2016 team is a good buddy of my son, classmates and teammates at Gilman. My son also played with the Kelly boys, Bones and Pat, on the same club teams during HS.
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They are very young this year especially in the areas where experience matters most (midfield and defense). It’s not surprising that they are having a slow start to the season. We will see how things develop.Matnum PI wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:59 pmYear after year, they get so many talented Baltimore boys and then several top players from LI and... and... and. And then they, from where I'm sitting, underperform. Obviously not every year. But seemingly often.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:20 pm One of the captains on the 2016 team is a good buddy of my son, classmates and teammates at Gilman. My son also played with the Kelly boys, Bones and Pat, on the same club teams during HS.
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The earlier Breschi years he was like a kid in a candy store given the difference in menu options from a long time at OSU. Perhaps he’s learned to be more contemplative in building his dinner plate these days but yeah it didn’t seem like he was going to be better than Haus those first few years.get it to x wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:15 pmThese class rankings very seldom stand up to retrospective review. Go through the top whatever and you find plenty of guys who did not last where they started or lost PT to late bloomers or unheralded players. Breschi gets some nice recruits, and some were early. If you're evaluating his coaching against a list and saying he doesn't get the most out of his players, well, he's got that ring.wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:05 pmmaryland's in the first group. and notre dame doesn't appear.
we can all cherry pick dates to go back. and as of 2016, their results including ff last year are better than years prior under breschi. so... they're on a roll?
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I think part of that sense is correct but I also think that the way HS talent is rated creates an over impression.Matnum PI wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:59 pmYear after year, they get so many talented Baltimore boys and then several top players from LI and... and... and. And then they, from where I'm sitting, underperform. Obviously not every year. But seemingly often.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:20 pm One of the captains on the 2016 team is a good buddy of my son, classmates and teammates at Gilman. My son also played with the Kelly boys, Bones and Pat, on the same club teams during HS.
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This is very true.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:15 amI think part of that sense is correct but I also think that the way HS talent is rated creates an over impression.Matnum PI wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:59 pmYear after year, they get so many talented Baltimore boys and then several top players from LI and... and... and. And then they, from where I'm sitting, underperform. Obviously not every year. But seemingly often.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:20 pm One of the captains on the 2016 team is a good buddy of my son, classmates and teammates at Gilman. My son also played with the Kelly boys, Bones and Pat, on the same club teams during HS.
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Don’t think only having 1 title is that much of an indictment; winning the title is hard. But 2 F4’s in 13 years in comparison to their rivals doesn’t measure up.
Since 2009, Duke has 9 F4’s. Maryland has 8. Notre Dame has 5. Denver has 5. Virginia has 5. Cuse fired Desko for 2 F4’s in that time frame, same with Petro at Hopkins. Obviously he’s achieved much more than Haus, but that was a low bar and the level of recruit he’s brought in is as high as anyone.
Since 2009, Duke has 9 F4’s. Maryland has 8. Notre Dame has 5. Denver has 5. Virginia has 5. Cuse fired Desko for 2 F4’s in that time frame, same with Petro at Hopkins. Obviously he’s achieved much more than Haus, but that was a low bar and the level of recruit he’s brought in is as high as anyone.
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I dunno.jrn19 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:09 am Don’t think only having 1 title is that much of an indictment; winning the title is hard. But 2 F4’s in 13 years in comparison to their rivals doesn’t measure up.
Since 2009, Duke has 9 F4’s. Maryland has 8. Notre Dame has 5. Denver has 5. Virginia has 5. Cuse fired Desko for 2 F4’s in that time frame, same with Petro at Hopkins. Obviously he’s achieved much more than Haus, but that was a low bar and the level of recruit he’s brought in is as high as anyone.
Other than UVA, any other school have as many pretty girls to be distracted by?
Seriously, UNC is a terrific school, and has attracted a lot of excellent players over the years, for sure. But I really do think that the way ratings out of HS are created created a misimpression about how talented those classes are.
I'm biased, but if you don't have an All-American goalie and/or an All-American FOGO, as well as a really good team throughout, it's more a matter of luck at making a F4. Add one or both of those and chances go up significantly.
They did have RG Keenan and Bones Kelly over that period...but...