What do you call Ukraine now?old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:06 pm I've been referring to the region & the Soviet Republic as THE Ukraine since my undergrad courses on Russian & Soviet history, as did my professors & classmates. That was followed by 20 years of reading about THE Ukraine in intel reports & tactical documents.
When we targeted Sevastopol & Odessa, we did not refer to them as part of "Ukraine".
I plan to continue to use THE Ukraine to make the distinction to which I am referring.
Are you solely distinguishing the period under Soviet domination as "the Ukraine" but before and after not?
In other words, using the preferred Soviet expression, which Putin continues to use now...which he does on purpose to imply there is no sovereign Ukraine?
As I said, I understand why the slippage happens to those who grew up using that phrase, but I'm not sure I'm buying using it now unless one is SUPER clear that one is referring only to that period of time. It's insulting otherwise and signals affinity to the Putin POV.