Brooklyn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:17 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:19 pm
jimminy Brook, Russia acknowledged that Crimea was part of Ukraine.
And the bloody ambassador two days ago said, unambiguously, that these two areas, by name, are part of Ukraine. Not Russia.
What Putin is NOW saying is that none of that matters, no past assurances of sovereignty matter, all that matters is what he claims is Russia's.
Do you really not understand that these assurances to Ukraine were made, unambiguously, to get Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons????
Do you realize that Putin's claims includes all the Balkans, Poland and more? Anywhere czarist Russia had ever conquered?
Correction: that both Crimea and Ukraine were parts of Russia. I am aware that Putin has sent diplomats into the Balkan states but know of no plan to invade or annex anything. Serbs and Russians are Slavics so their alliance is understandable. Can't say that about others in that region. Czarist Russia? When Russia invaded the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria (Chechnya) the rest of the world looked the other way. Strange how certain interests who stand to profit from war have taken so much interest today.
As for giving up nukes, Iran should not have given up any plans to develop theirs. Imperialists such as Israel and the USA have no business hassling them over any such possible ambitions.
I'm not following your logic. Putin was super clear in his rant yesterday.
All vassal states of the Soviet Union have no basis to claim sovereignty and for that matter any territories conquered by czarist Russia.
I certainly wouldn't think that
you are aware, "know" any of Putin's plans...but he made the clear claims yesterday, much akin to prior statements but bat-sh-t crazy yesterday. That's what he's selling on Russian propaganda.
Not sure what you think the "correction" is. Are you aware of the prior acknowledgments and assurances by Russia as well as the rest of the world, that Crimea, and these other parts of eastern Ukraine are sovereign territory of Ukraine, not Russia?
Yes or no?
The problem is that some of them want to be actual democracies, reducing corruption, rather than remaining vassal to an authoritarian kleptocracy.
That scares the bejesus out of Putin as it threatens the possibility of that happening in Russia as well. Which is existential for him personally.