2022 Rankings - D1 Women

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Rankings should be based on each team's resume, specifically, each team's best wins and worst losses. In other words, the teams with the best wins and the best losses should be at the top of the pile. The teams with the worst wins and worst losses should be at the bottom. With this in mind, after one game for numerous teams, these are the 2022 current rankings.

1 Boston College
2 Syracuse
3 North Carolina
4 Mount St Mary's
5 Virginia
6 Colorado
7 Maryland
8 Jacksonville
9 Ohio State
10 William and Mary
11 Marquette
12 Vanderbilt
13 Temple
14 USC
15 Notre Dame
16 Davidson
17 Vermont
18 Canisius
19 George Mason
20 Pitt
21 Navy
22 Johns Hopkins
23 Hofstra
24 Fairfield
25 Drexel
26 Rutgers
27 Georgetown
28 East Carolina
29 Florida
30 UMass
31 Richmond
32 Siena
33 Youngstown State
34 Butler
35 La Salle
36 Campbell
37 Duke
38 UMBC
39 Michigan
40 Presbyterian
41 Northwestern
42 James Madison
43 Stanford
44 Central Michigan
45 Gardner-Webb
46 Kennesaw State
47 Elon
48 Army
49 Virginia Tech
50 Delaware
51 Saint Joseph's
52 VCU
53 Wagner
54 LIU
55 Robert Morris
56 Liberty
57 Detroit Mercy
58 UMass Lowell
59 Louisville
60 Towson
61 High Point
62 Old Dominion
63 American
64 San Diego State
65 Holy Cross
66 California
67 Cincinnati
68 Longwood
69 Colgate
70 Villanova
71 Radford
72 New Hampshire
73 Iona
74 Stetson
75 Kent State
76 Oregon
77 Bucknell
78 Howard
79 Saint Bonaventure
80 Duquesne
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Did you or your children go to Mt St Marys?
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Testudo98 wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:24 pm Did you or your children go to Mt St Marys?
Beating Towson isn't bad. #27 at the end of the 2021 season...
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That’s awesome!!!
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Testudo98 wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:33 pm That’s awesome!!!
Of course it's not AWESOME!... But it's better than the teams below them. Keep in mind, these rankings are based 100% on quality wins (and losses) in 2022. Thus far, in 2022, with a W over Towson, MSM is towards the top of the pile.
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I was being nice. The Mount didn’t have a great legacy in my family.
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Matnum PI wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:57 pm Rankings should be based on each team's resume, specifically, each team's best wins and worst losses. In other words, the teams with the best wins and the best losses should be at the top of the pile. The teams with the worst wins and worst losses should be at the bottom. With this in mind, after one game for numerous teams, these are the 2022 current rankings.
Say, were you collaborating with FanLax Computer on this? How is that old curmudgeon anyway? Tell it I said, Up yours!" Affectionately, of course.

I agree, the MSM win over Towson was a nice one--on the road too. I'm learning to take these lists for what they are. Interesting to look at on occasion. Helps track other teams that don't get much ink in the mainstream.
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if this was an attempt to be some what objective about the rankings..yikes. Sometimes just plugging numbers into a computer is not the best idea when it comes to more nuanced things.
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Kleizaster wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:26 am if this was an attempt to be some what objective about the rankings..yikes. Sometimes just plugging numbers into a computer is not the best idea when it comes to more nuanced things.
"Rankings should be based on each team's resume, specifically, each team's best wins and worst losses. In other words, the teams with the best wins and the best losses should be at the top of the pile. The teams with the worst wins and worst losses should be at the bottom. With this in mind, after one game for numerous teams, these are the 2022 current rankings."
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:41 amSay, were you collaborating with FanLax Computer on this? How is that old curmudgeon anyway? Tell it I said, Up yours!" Affectionately, of course.
It's true. I took the list from FanLax Computer's output. I'm sure he'll make an appearance once the season is in full swing and he's properly agitated.
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Matnum PI wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:57 pm Rankings should be based on each team's resume, specifically, each team's best wins and worst losses. In other words, the teams with the best wins and the best losses should be at the top of the pile. The teams with the worst wins and worst losses should be at the bottom. With this in mind, after one game for numerous teams, these are the 2022 current rankings.

1 Boston College
2 Syracuse
3 North Carolina
4 Mount St Mary's
5 Virginia
6 Colorado
7 Maryland
8 Jacksonville
9 Ohio State
10 William and Mary
11 Marquette
12 Vanderbilt
13 Temple
14 USC
15 Notre Dame
16 Davidson
17 Vermont
18 Canisius
19 George Mason
20 Pitt
21 Navy
22 Johns Hopkins
23 Hofstra
24 Fairfield
25 Drexel
26 Rutgers
27 Georgetown
28 East Carolina
29 Florida
30 UMass
31 Richmond
32 Siena
33 Youngstown State
34 Butler
35 La Salle
36 Campbell
37 Duke
38 UMBC
39 Michigan
40 Presbyterian
41 Northwestern
42 James Madison
43 Stanford
44 Central Michigan
45 Gardner-Webb
46 Kennesaw State
47 Elon
48 Army
49 Virginia Tech
50 Delaware
51 Saint Joseph's
52 VCU
53 Wagner
54 LIU
55 Robert Morris
56 Liberty
57 Detroit Mercy
58 UMass Lowell
59 Louisville
60 Towson
61 High Point
62 Old Dominion
63 American
64 San Diego State
65 Holy Cross
66 California
67 Cincinnati
68 Longwood
69 Colgate
70 Villanova
71 Radford
72 New Hampshire
73 Iona
74 Stetson
75 Kent State
76 Oregon
77 Bucknell
78 Howard
79 Saint Bonaventure
80 Duquesne
How is Cuse above UNC? Beating JMU on the road 15-8 is much more impressive than Cuse beating Stanford 12-9 at home. Even in these rankings JMU is ranked above Stanford.
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Lewisfrederick wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:05 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:57 pm Rankings should be based on each team's resume, specifically, each team's best wins and worst losses. In other words, the teams with the best wins and the best losses should be at the top of the pile. The teams with the worst wins and worst losses should be at the bottom. With this in mind, after one game for numerous teams, these are the 2022 current rankings.
How is Cuse above UNC? Beating JMU on the road 15-8 is much more impressive than Cuse beating Stanford 12-9 at home. Even in these rankings JMU is ranked above Stanford.
At the end of 2021, Stanford was above JMU. As we get deeper into 2022, we'll use the 2022 Rankings as the foundation.
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Matnum PI wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:46 am
Lewisfrederick wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:05 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:57 pm Rankings should be based on each team's resume, specifically, each team's best wins and worst losses. In other words, the teams with the best wins and the best losses should be at the top of the pile. The teams with the worst wins and worst losses should be at the bottom. With this in mind, after one game for numerous teams, these are the 2022 current rankings.
How is Cuse above UNC? Beating JMU on the road 15-8 is much more impressive than Cuse beating Stanford 12-9 at home. Even in these rankings JMU is ranked above Stanford.
At the end of 2021, Stanford was above JMU. As we get deeper into 2022, we'll use the 2022 Rankings as the foundation.
When will the updated list from the past weekends games be up? Inquiring minds need to know.
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lol - No one should be giving laxreference any gruff considering how horrible this ranking of teams is. Even when I look at the final 2021 rankings, it is pretty clear that there are gaping holes in the simplistic formula/methodology used to calculate this ranking.
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Matnum PI wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:57 pm Rankings should be based on each team's resume, specifically, each team's best wins and worst losses. In other words, the teams with the best wins and the best losses should be at the top of the pile. The teams with the worst wins and worst losses should be at the bottom. With this in mind, after one game for numerous teams, these are the 2022 current rankings.

1 Boston College
2 Syracuse
3 North Carolina
4 Mount St Mary's
5 Virginia
6 Colorado
7 Maryland
8 Jacksonville
9 Ohio State
10 William and Mary
11 Marquette
12 Vanderbilt
13 Temple
14 USC
15 Notre Dame
16 Davidson
17 Vermont
18 Canisius
19 George Mason
20 Pitt
21 Navy
22 Johns Hopkins
23 Hofstra
24 Fairfield
25 Drexel
26 Rutgers
27 Georgetown
28 East Carolina
29 Florida
30 UMass
31 Richmond
32 Siena
33 Youngstown State
34 Butler
35 La Salle
36 Campbell
37 Duke
38 UMBC
39 Michigan
40 Presbyterian
41 Northwestern
42 James Madison
43 Stanford
44 Central Michigan
45 Gardner-Webb
46 Kennesaw State
47 Elon
48 Army
49 Virginia Tech
50 Delaware
51 Saint Joseph's
52 VCU
53 Wagner
54 LIU
55 Robert Morris
56 Liberty
57 Detroit Mercy
58 UMass Lowell
59 Louisville
60 Towson
61 High Point
62 Old Dominion
63 American
64 San Diego State
65 Holy Cross
66 California
67 Cincinnati
68 Longwood
69 Colgate
70 Villanova
71 Radford
72 New Hampshire
73 Iona
74 Stetson
75 Kent State
76 Oregon
77 Bucknell
78 Howard
79 Saint Bonaventure
80 Duquesne
I'm sorry, but this list is simply ridiculous. There are teams on here in the top 20 that clearly do not belong and will not be there at the end of the season. To think that Mount St. Mary's, William & Mary, Marquette, Vanderbilt, Davidson, Vermont, Canisius, George Mason and Pitt are top 20 teams is simply a farce. 9 of your top 20 teams are not even close to being in the top 20.
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@inthe8m wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:29 pm lol - No one should be giving laxreference any gruff considering how horrible this ranking of teams is. Even when I look at the final 2021 rankings, it is pretty clear that there are gaping holes in the simplistic formula/methodology used to calculate this ranking.
Why play one against the other? Let’s give ‘em both guff 😉

To be fair though—Matnum explained in the first post that this is a Best Win/Worst Loss ranking. It’s not to be understood in the same way as weekly polls.
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:20 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:29 pm lol - No one should be giving laxreference any gruff considering how horrible this ranking of teams is. Even when I look at the final 2021 rankings, it is pretty clear that there are gaping holes in the simplistic formula/methodology used to calculate this ranking.
Why play one against the other? Let’s give ‘em both guff 😉

To be fair though—Matnum explained in the first post that this is a Best Win/Worst Loss ranking. It’s not to be understood in the same way as weekly polls.
Then why is Notre Dame ranked above Michigan since UM beat them head to head?
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:11 am When will the updated list from the past weekends games be up? Inquiring minds need to know.
Tomorrow.
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Brownlax wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:41 pm There are teams on here in the top 20 that clearly do not belong and will not be there at the end of the season. To think that Mount St. Mary's, William & Mary, Marquette, Vanderbilt, Davidson, Vermont, Canisius, George Mason and Pitt are top 20 teams is simply a farce. 9 of your top 20 teams are not even close to being in the top 20.
Correct. These Rankings are based on each team's resume, specifically, each team's best wins and worst losses. In other words, the teams with the best wins and the best losses should be at the top of the pile. The teams with the worst wins and worst losses should be at the bottom. With this in mind, after one game for numerous teams, these are the 2022 current rankings.
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Brownlax wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:50 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:20 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:29 pm lol - No one should be giving laxreference any gruff considering how horrible this ranking of teams is. Even when I look at the final 2021 rankings, it is pretty clear that there are gaping holes in the simplistic formula/methodology used to calculate this ranking.
Why play one against the other? Let’s give ‘em both guff 😉

To be fair though—Matnum explained in the first post that this is a Best Win/Worst Loss ranking. It’s not to be understood in the same way as weekly polls.
Then why is Notre Dame ranked above Michigan since UM beat them head to head?
I believe this ranking was calculated before they played.
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