Ivy League 2022

[Matnum PI]

Good to hear. Same as B1G, CAA, Big East...

[bearlaxfan]

Fingers crossed it's @Conference Champ.
Looking at 2022 for:
Yale w/o TD, how will the admittedly talented roster look if not getting 75% of possessions?
Penn & Handly- attack, mid, or swing? Is Berkinshaw still there?
Cornell new HC but from within the program. Post Teat, see Princeton post Sowers comment below
Princeton post Sowers, how much of the 2020 promising start can be duplicated?
Harvard, new coach, can record mirror recruiting prowess?
Brown life after Goss, year christ, how do we even count the years after covid? for Daly to do more than just make IL tourney.
Dartmouth, seemed like progress was being made, now how will they look?

[faircornell]

Cornell may be "post-Teat", but they still bring a lot to the table. John Piatelli is an excellent and effective attackman, and is joined by returnees and a solid first year student. At Midfield, Cornell has several strong returnees on both offense and defense. Cornell has one new excellent long pole as well as at least one returning veteran who's proven his on-field skills. In goal, Chase Ierlan is a solid performer. As you imply above, is this enough to beat Yale and Penn? I don't know, but I certainly wouldn't rule out the Big Red as being capable of doing so.

2022 will be Connor Buczek's tenth year on campus as either a player, volunteer assistant, assistant coach or head coach. By any measure he has been an extremely successful player, educator, team leader and strategist. His staff are serious, All America, players. Personally, I think that the fretting about the "new coach" is understandable, but overdone.

[The Orfling]

Fingers crossed it's @Conference Champ.
Looking at 2022 for:
Yale w/o TD, how will the admittedly talented roster look if not getting 75% of possessions?
Penn & Handly- attack, mid, or swing? Is Berkinshaw still there?
Cornell new HC but from within the program. Post Teat, see Princeton post Sowers comment below
Princeton post Sowers, how much of the 2020 promising start can be duplicated?
Harvard, new coach, can record mirror recruiting prowess?
Brown life after Goss, year christ, how do we even count the years after covid? for Daly to do more than just make IL tourney.
Dartmouth, seemed like progress was being made, now how will they look?

Nice framing of the big questions, @bearlaxfan! Can't wait to watch Ivy lax.

[FannOLax]

Inside lacrosse recently posted this article on top transfers: https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... 2022/58767
Three of the top five are Ivy players going as graduates to Rutgers (Bartolo from Penn), Duke (Lulley from Penn) and Maryland (Donville from Cornell). There are a number of reasons why the extra year away in 2021 could make life tougher for the Ivies, and these very good Ivy players turning out for the likes of Duke and Maryland is one of them. Last year, I wanted to root for Denver because the Pioneers had Morrill, Cotler and (sort of) TD, but my heart wasn't in it and I ended up wanting Georgetown to beat Denver. This year's Rutgers roster includes Yale grad Brian Ward, not a star, but a good, solid LSM who missed last season at Rutgers through injury. Anyway, I am really looking forward to the return of Ivy lacrosse!

[calourie]

https://lacrossereference.com/stats/str ... le-d1-men/

Interesting SOS listing from Lax Reference. Not sure how the ratings are arrived at but they show the Ivies with a nice leg up for getting more than an AQ bid into the NCAAs in terms of SOS scheduling trailing only the ACC significantly and perhaps the BIG by a little. Lots of hand wringing regarding the Ivies having to deal with a year off, as well as the advantage many big name schools have in terms of transfers and 5th year eligible players, but I for one think the Ivy players will come out of the gates with their hair on fire as a result of finally being able to get out on the field again and see some meaningful action.

[FannOLax]

https://lacrossereference.com/stats/str ... le-d1-men/

Interesting SOS listing from Lax Reference. Not sure how the ratings are arrived at but they show the Ivies with a nice leg up for getting more than an AQ bid into the NCAAs in terms of SOS scheduling trailing only the ACC significantly and perhaps the BIG by a little. Lots of hand wringing regarding the Ivies having to deal with a year off, as well as the advantage many big name schools have in terms of transfers and 5th year eligible players, but I for one think the Ivy players will come out of the gates with their hair on fire as a result of finally being able to get out on the field again and see some meaningful action.

"Hair on fire" is not a phrase I recognized right away, but I like it. As for "hand wringing," well, I'm hoping for the best, but bracing myself for a year where the Ivy isn't as strong as 2020 was shaping up to be. Glad to see the Ivies' SOS looks good. Cornell will get to trot out its new coach, who I understand contributed to Milliman's success, while we should get to see a full year of Harvard under its highly touted new head coach. Brown's head coach won a handful of national championships at the D3 level, but hasn't yet led the Bears into the NCAA tourney. Penn coach Murphy stepped up big-time in 2019, and I wonder what kind of young talent he has that might be ready to burst onto the scene. Yale's head coach has little left to prove, but the off year and 2022 roster size present him a different sort of challenge. Princeton looked ready in 2020 to burst back into the national elite, and maybe coach Madalon can prove there really is life after Sowers. And will Dartmouth get its first Ivy win in quite some years? Should be a fun season; but then, just about anything should be better than not playing.

[jrn19]

https://lacrossereference.com/stats/str ... le-d1-men/

Interesting SOS listing from Lax Reference. Not sure how the ratings are arrived at but they show the Ivies with a nice leg up for getting more than an AQ bid into the NCAAs in terms of SOS scheduling trailing only the ACC significantly and perhaps the BIG by a little. Lots of hand wringing regarding the Ivies having to deal with a year off, as well as the advantage many big name schools have in terms of transfers and 5th year eligible players, but I for one think the Ivy players will come out of the gates with their hair on fire as a result of finally being able to get out on the field again and see some meaningful action.

"Hair on fire" is not a phrase I recognized right away, but I like it. As for "hand wringing," well, I'm hoping for the best, but bracing myself for a year where the Ivy isn't as strong as 2020 was shaping up to be. Glad to see the Ivies' SOS looks good. Cornell will get to trot out its new coach, who I understand contributed to Milliman's success, while we should get to see a full year of Harvard under its highly touted new head coach. Brown's head coach won a handful of national championships at the D3 level, but hasn't yet led the Bears into the NCAA tourney. Penn coach Murphy stepped up big-time in 2019, and I wonder what kind of young talent he has that might be ready to burst onto the scene. Yale's head coach has little left to prove, but the off year and 2022 roster size present him a different sort of challenge. Princeton looked ready in 2020 to burst back into the national elite, and maybe coach Madalon can prove there really is life after Sowers. And will Dartmouth get its first Ivy win in quite some years? Should be a fun season; but then, just about anything should be better than not playing.

I think worse than 2020 is inevitable. They had arguably 3 Top 5 and 4 Top 10 teams up to that point in 2020. I think something approximating 2019 with Yale being in the Top 10 and someone from Penn/Cornell/Princeton joining them or potentially beating them to the AQ and getting two teams to the tournament would be a strong bounce back for the league and set them up well for the future.

[laxreference]

https://lacrossereference.com/stats/str ... le-d1-men/

Interesting SOS listing from Lax Reference. Not sure how the ratings are arrived at but they show the Ivies with a nice leg up for getting more than an AQ bid into the NCAAs in terms of SOS scheduling trailing only the ACC significantly and perhaps the BIG by a little. Lots of hand wringing regarding the Ivies having to deal with a year off, as well as the advantage many big name schools have in terms of transfers and 5th year eligible players, but I for one think the Ivy players will come out of the gates with their hair on fire as a result of finally being able to get out on the field again and see some meaningful action.

Hi all, I'm Zack and I run LacrosseReference.

The SOS ratings are calculated based on the average Elo rating of all the opponents on every team's schedule. Elo is my program strength metric, and it carries over (with an adjustment) from year to year. Obviously, the non-conference SOS is based on just those teams that are OOC opponents.

As the season progresses, the SOS link will also include the official NCAA SOS (avg RPI of each team's 10 strongest opponents). But for now, since no one has an RPI yet, it's just the Elo-based ratings.

Hope that helps. Excited to get the season started!

[FannOLax]

The Ivy League released a pre-season poll: https://ivyleague.com/sports/mlax
1. Yale
2. Penn
3. Cornell
4. Princeton
5. Brown
6. Harvard
7. Dartmouth

Brown can take extra motivation from being ranked outside of the League Tournament (top-4) teams. Yale benefits from players having taken time away from school and therefore returns players from the 2018 national championship team. Anyone have any news from Harvard's scrimmage yesterday?

[ctbagataway]

Just a scrimmage, but I heard it was 11-7 at the half, and then 19+-9 final. Harvard's production was fairly widespread.

[oldbartman]

Just a scrimmage, but I heard it was 11-7 at the half, and then 19+-9 final. Harvard's production was fairly widespread.

Who did they scrimmage?

[ctbagataway]

Holy Cross

[oldbartman]

Thanks.

[RocktheCasbah]

The Ivy League released a pre-season poll: https://ivyleague.com/sports/mlax
1. Yale
2. Penn
3. Cornell
4. Princeton
5. Brown
6. Harvard
7. Dartmouth

Brown can take extra motivation from being ranked outside of the League Tournament (top-4) teams. Yale benefits from players having taken time away from school and therefore returns players from the 2018 national championship team. Anyone have any news from Harvard's scrimmage yesterday?

Can't wait to see the Ivies back in action. Surprised to see Harvard in 6th.

[molo]

It will be interesting to see how the year off and the relative disadvantage of not granting many fifth years and not capitalizing on the transfer portal affects the league this year.

[faircornell]

I wonder if any posters attended the Harvard/St John's scrimmage.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://goprincetontigers.com/news/2022 ... n-2-1.aspx

[MDlaxfan76]

https://goprincetontigers.com/news/2022 ... n-2-1.aspx

Good news, and basically as we predicted.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://goprincetontigers.com/news/2022 ... n-2-1.aspx

Good news, and basically as we predicted.

February 19th right around the corner.