media matters

[cradleandshoot]

The crazy part....those that agree with this current JR censure issue, can not see what is happening in front of their very eyes. They are essentially killing themselves by a thousand cuts, strangling their own future freedom(s), to which they truly must have no concern. Part of me wonders what makes these type of people tick....to only live in the immediate, to tear others down and be happy and smile about it....my guess is that they really must be miserable inside.

Isn't this a new fangled variation of how the angry, hate filled FLP liberal Democrats spent 30 years trying to shut up Rush Limbaugh? You know who are. Your all the same people who lecture us about diversity, tolerance and respecting the opinion of others. Your the people who SHOULD be advocating for the people you disagree with. That is not what angry, hate filled FLP liberals actually want. You all want to shut off any perspective or discussion that disagrees with your dogma. You want an example, woe to anybody who disagrees with the dogma of the environmental extremists. No discussion or counter point of view is allowed. The science is settled. Settled by who???

... more meaningless vomit, trying to insult other posters.

So what is so special about Joe Rogan. A fan has it exactly right!

No one is banning or silencing Joe Rogan or even trying to. Those boycotting Rogan are exercising their first amendment rights, which you apparently don't think they have. Grow up!

Young is gone from spotify. Gone, as no longer around. Silenced. Isn't that a form of "censorship" Like the pathetic "ignore" funtion.

If JRogan had made the request, "me or him"......and the same result ,happened, Young being gone. interested if you would consider that censorship ? Thoughts?

Didn't Neil Young silence himself of his own choice. I thought censorship is when some one else does that?

IF.......means a hypothetical "IF Gray (unc ) gets the ball, we're going to yell his number and triple team him " .

Read , out loud, what I wrote. IF......Joe wanted Neil Young gone....and it happened.......would JHU think it would be cool ?

Typical......no one cares about the monopolistic bizness moves amazingON music, along with BLACKstone...........etc.

Easy to be the best when you are a monopoly. That mindset gave us Bud beer for decades......

I don't think Neil Young has been relevant on the music scene for several decades. The people like myself already have his music in our libraries. It is hard to think most college kids today have any interest in listening to Neil sing Old Man.

[Farfromgeneva]

The crazy part....those that agree with this current JR censure issue, can not see what is happening in front of their very eyes. They are essentially killing themselves by a thousand cuts, strangling their own future freedom(s), to which they truly must have no concern. Part of me wonders what makes these type of people tick....to only live in the immediate, to tear others down and be happy and smile about it....my guess is that they really must be miserable inside.

Isn't this a new fangled variation of how the angry, hate filled FLP liberal Democrats spent 30 years trying to shut up Rush Limbaugh? You know who are. Your all the same people who lecture us about diversity, tolerance and respecting the opinion of others. Your the people who SHOULD be advocating for the people you disagree with. That is not what angry, hate filled FLP liberals actually want. You all want to shut off any perspective or discussion that disagrees with your dogma. You want an example, woe to anybody who disagrees with the dogma of the environmental extremists. No discussion or counter point of view is allowed. The science is settled. Settled by who???

... more meaningless vomit, trying to insult other posters.

So what is so special about Joe Rogan. A fan has it exactly right!

No one is banning or silencing Joe Rogan or even trying to. Those boycotting Rogan are exercising their first amendment rights, which you apparently don't think they have. Grow up!

Young is gone from spotify. Gone, as no longer around. Silenced. Isn't that a form of "censorship" Like the pathetic "ignore" funtion.

If JRogan had made the request, "me or him"......and the same result ,happened, Young being gone. interested if you would consider that censorship ? Thoughts?

Didn't Neil Young silence himself of his own choice. I thought censorship is when some one else does that?

Correct. But you have people who believe that if they don’t get what they want it’s unfair and toss around words they literally don’t understand the meaning of and can’t Google a definition to save their lives.

... don't think Neil Young feels or felt silenced for even a second. He spoke loudly and profoundly.

Speaking to the second sentence. Wanted to support cradle when I see him making a good cogent point and I think his first sentence was meant to articulate Young “deplatforming” himself despite the fact he signed up on YouTube music the next day. But he can speak for himself if I’ve misunderstood him

[Farfromgeneva]

The crazy part....those that agree with this current JR censure issue, can not see what is happening in front of their very eyes. They are essentially killing themselves by a thousand cuts, strangling their own future freedom(s), to which they truly must have no concern. Part of me wonders what makes these type of people tick....to only live in the immediate, to tear others down and be happy and smile about it....my guess is that they really must be miserable inside.

Isn't this a new fangled variation of how the angry, hate filled FLP liberal Democrats spent 30 years trying to shut up Rush Limbaugh? You know who are. Your all the same people who lecture us about diversity, tolerance and respecting the opinion of others. Your the people who SHOULD be advocating for the people you disagree with. That is not what angry, hate filled FLP liberals actually want. You all want to shut off any perspective or discussion that disagrees with your dogma. You want an example, woe to anybody who disagrees with the dogma of the environmental extremists. No discussion or counter point of view is allowed. The science is settled. Settled by who???

... more meaningless vomit, trying to insult other posters.

So what is so special about Joe Rogan. A fan has it exactly right!

No one is banning or silencing Joe Rogan or even trying to. Those boycotting Rogan are exercising their first amendment rights, which you apparently don't think they have. Grow up!

Young is gone from spotify. Gone, as no longer around. Silenced. Isn't that a form of "censorship" Like the pathetic "ignore" funtion.

If JRogan had made the request, "me or him"......and the same result ,happened, Young being gone. interested if you would consider that censorship ? Thoughts?

Didn't Neil Young silence himself of his own choice. I thought censorship is when some one else does that?

IF.......means a hypothetical "IF Gray (unc ) gets the ball, we're going to yell his number and triple team him " .

Read , out loud, what I wrote. IF......Joe wanted Neil Young gone....and it happened.......would JHU think it would be cool ?

Typical......no one cares about the monopolistic bizness moves amazingON music, along with BLACKstone...........etc.

Easy to be the best when you are a monopoly. That mindset gave us Bud beer for decades......

I don't think Neil Young has been relevant on the music scene for several decades. The people like myself already have his music in our libraries. It is hard to think most college kids today have any interest in listening to Neil sing Old Man.

It’s a great f’ng song!

And way way better than rocking in the free world

[runrussellrun]

Why wouldn't they want to listen to music, of any time or era?

Most listen to Brahms or Beethoven , yes? Blues or Big Band ? I am listening to Trouble Funk as I type. 80's "go go" band from D.C.

If someone requests the removal of someone, that is censorship, imho.

What did Neil do with that $150 million for selling his songs to blackstone ? Give it all to Canada's WE charity

[a fan]

Just take the observation and perhaps, when bashing, say UMass or Maryland , mention the privates, located near them, that get billions, instead of millions. If presenting the entire, true story. Just a suggestion. If even, every once in a while.

I have. Many times. I bring up the biggest offender----Hopkins. Not my fault you don't read every post.

I have never....not once.....denigrated Public Universities without being sarcastic....e.g. mocking those who claim the government gets nothing right. Or claims socialism is bad.

[runrussellrun]

and those denying that the censorship wolf is on the prowl are "interesting", to say the least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSNgV_CAm_c&t=69s

[DMac]

and sketches of naked women they deemed unsuitable for 13-year-old students

Them Tennesse folk kids got cell phones? Watching Porn hub on their phones but the naked
ladies in the book aren't unsuitable. Tennesse whiskey might be smooth, but it aint good for
your brain.
Have a taste...it don't get better 'n this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLruNfUqUs

[jhu72]

and those denying that the censorship wolf is on the prowl are "interesting", to say the least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSNgV_CAm_c&t=69s

... there is always RSS.

[jhu72]

and sketches of naked women they deemed unsuitable for 13-year-old students

Them Tennesse folk kids got cell phones? Watching Porn hub on their phones but the naked
ladies in the book aren't unsuitable. Tennesse whiskey might be smooth, but it aint good for
your brain.
Have a taste...it don't get better 'n this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLruNfUqUs

.. the hypocrisy of these people never ends.

[a fan]

I think the assumption is that many Democrats would certainly try to suppress speech if given the chance.

Yes, that's the FoxNews sales pitch.

And American conservatives....our current Republican party...would never do such a thing. Is that it?

Did you just move to America five minutes ago, Pete, and only read the brochure?

I have no doubt there exist some Republicans who would pull the plug on MSNBC if given the chance. But to compare a few of those with entire Democratic movements dedicated to shutting down Fox (or Rogan, or Newsmax, etc) is apples and watermelons. I can name significantly funded Democratic entities whose sole purpose is to shut down speech. Media Matters is one such example.

Yeah, sorry man, you're being silly. American Conservatives (Republicans, currently) are 1000% times worse on this count, and have stuck it to their fellow Americans trying to live their lives for generations.

"You stop doing it first", is my answer to complaints from your team about financially punishing Americans for their views/race/sex/religion/etc.

Rogan, to his credit, understands that's he not some comic only a few people have heard of anymore. 10 million customers comes with some strings....and a bit of care is needed when you're talking about medical stuff.

If you're going to ask boycotters to be considerate, and use their power wisely? Not too much to ask Rogan to take the same care with the power that he has.

[jhu72]

Just take the observation and perhaps, when bashing, say UMass or Maryland , mention the privates, located near them, that get billions, instead of millions. If presenting the entire, true story. Just a suggestion. If even, every once in a while.

I have. Many times. I bring up the biggest offender----Hopkins. Not my fault you don't read every post.

I have never....not once.....denigrated Public Universities without being sarcastic....e.g. mocking those who claim the government gets nothing right. Or claims socialism is bad.

... and worth every penny and a lot more.

[Farfromgeneva]

and sketches of naked women they deemed unsuitable for 13-year-old students

Them Tennesse folk kids got cell phones? Watching Porn hub on their phones but the naked
ladies in the book aren't unsuitable. Tennesse whiskey might be smooth, but it aint good for
your brain.
Have a taste...it don't get better 'n this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLruNfUqUs

Pornhub is art! You just don’t get it.

[Peter Brown]

I think the assumption is that many Democrats would certainly try to suppress speech if given the chance.

Yes, that's the FoxNews sales pitch.

And American conservatives....our current Republican party...would never do such a thing. Is that it?

Did you just move to America five minutes ago, Pete, and only read the brochure?

I have no doubt there exist some Republicans who would pull the plug on MSNBC if given the chance. But to compare a few of those with entire Democratic movements dedicated to shutting down Fox (or Rogan, or Newsmax, etc) is apples and watermelons. I can name significantly funded Democratic entities whose sole purpose is to shut down speech. Media Matters is one such example.

Yeah, sorry man, you're being silly. American Conservatives (Republicans, currently) are 1000% times worse on this count, and have stuck it to their fellow Americans trying to live their lives for generations.

"You stop doing it first", is my answer to complaints from your team about financially punishing Americans for their views/race/sex/religion/etc.

Rogan, to his credit, understands that's he not some comic only a few people have heard of anymore. 10 million customers comes with some strings....and a bit of care is needed when you're talking about medical stuff.

If you're going to ask boycotters to be considerate, and use their power wisely? Not too much to ask Rogan to take the same care with the power that he has.

Dude,..

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... on/617827/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/when-will- ... 1617813301

https://nypost.com/2018/08/03/how-liber ... ee-speech/

https://www.city-journal.org/html/liber ... 14330.html

I cou!d list a billion of these, but this entire book by a Democrat will explain why you are wildly wrong:

https://www.amazon.com/Silencing-Left-K ... 1621573702

[a fan]

Just take the observation and perhaps, when bashing, say UMass or Maryland , mention the privates, located near them, that get billions, instead of millions. If presenting the entire, true story. Just a suggestion. If even, every once in a while.

I have. Many times. I bring up the biggest offender----Hopkins. Not my fault you don't read every post.

I have never....not once.....denigrated Public Universities without being sarcastic....e.g. mocking those who claim the government gets nothing right. Or claims socialism is bad.

... and worth every penny and a lot more.

You'd think with all that money you chaps could afford a better mascot.

[Farfromgeneva]

Just take the observation and perhaps, when bashing, say UMass or Maryland , mention the privates, located near them, that get billions, instead of millions. If presenting the entire, true story. Just a suggestion. If even, every once in a while.

I have. Many times. I bring up the biggest offender----Hopkins. Not my fault you don't read every post.

I have never....not once.....denigrated Public Universities without being sarcastic....e.g. mocking those who claim the government gets nothing right. Or claims socialism is bad.

... and worth every penny and a lot more.

You'd think with all that money you chaps could afford a better mascot.

And women.

[a fan]

I think the assumption is that many Democrats would certainly try to suppress speech if given the chance.

Yes, that's the FoxNews sales pitch.

And American conservatives....our current Republican party...would never do such a thing. Is that it?

Did you just move to America five minutes ago, Pete, and only read the brochure?

I have no doubt there exist some Republicans who would pull the plug on MSNBC if given the chance. But to compare a few of those with entire Democratic movements dedicated to shutting down Fox (or Rogan, or Newsmax, etc) is apples and watermelons. I can name significantly funded Democratic entities whose sole purpose is to shut down speech. Media Matters is one such example.

Yeah, sorry man, you're being silly. American Conservatives (Republicans, currently) are 1000% times worse on this count, and have stuck it to their fellow Americans trying to live their lives for generations.

"You stop doing it first", is my answer to complaints from your team about financially punishing Americans for their views/race/sex/religion/etc.

Rogan, to his credit, understands that's he not some comic only a few people have heard of anymore. 10 million customers comes with some strings....and a bit of care is needed when you're talking about medical stuff.

If you're going to ask boycotters to be considerate, and use their power wisely? Not too much to ask Rogan to take the same care with the power that he has.

Dude,..

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... on/617827/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/when-will- ... 1617813301

https://nypost.com/2018/08/03/how-liber ... ee-speech/

https://www.city-journal.org/html/liber ... 14330.html

I cou!d list a billion of these, but this entire book by a Democrat will explain why you are wildly wrong:

https://www.amazon.com/Silencing-Left-K ... 1621573702

Oh, I don't disagree that THEY are doing that----and that it's irony set at 11. It's just that your team never stopped doing it!

Here's how you take the high ground: next time someone kneels during the Anthem? You don't just ignore it........you CELEBRATE it.

Do that, all across FoxNation......invite Meghan Rapinoe on, and Kaepernick on, and say "hey, I'm behind your free speech....why did you kneel, what's your issue with America?"


Remember those marchers for BLM? The peaceful ones? Did you listen to them? Encourage their peaceful work? Have a listen to why they're so upset? That confused the heck out of me, if you'll recall. Here you had thousands of Black Americans telling you that their Dem-run government is broken. I have NO IDEA why you didn't embrace them, and say "welcome to the team...how can I help?"

As I said before: YOU stop doing this first. Until then? All you're doing is saying "do as I say, not as I do".

[jhu72]

Just take the observation and perhaps, when bashing, say UMass or Maryland , mention the privates, located near them, that get billions, instead of millions. If presenting the entire, true story. Just a suggestion. If even, every once in a while.

I have. Many times. I bring up the biggest offender----Hopkins. Not my fault you don't read every post.

I have never....not once.....denigrated Public Universities without being sarcastic....e.g. mocking those who claim the government gets nothing right. Or claims socialism is bad.

... and worth every penny and a lot more.

You'd think with all that money you chaps could afford a better mascot.

... this from a guy who roots for a fruit.

[a fan]

Just take the observation and perhaps, when bashing, say UMass or Maryland , mention the privates, located near them, that get billions, instead of millions. If presenting the entire, true story. Just a suggestion. If even, every once in a while.

I have. Many times. I bring up the biggest offender----Hopkins. Not my fault you don't read every post.

I have never....not once.....denigrated Public Universities without being sarcastic....e.g. mocking those who claim the government gets nothing right. Or claims socialism is bad.

... and worth every penny and a lot more.

You'd think with all that money you chaps could afford a better mascot.

... this from a guy who roots for a fruit.

Sigh.

It's true.

[Peter Brown]

I think the assumption is that many Democrats would certainly try to suppress speech if given the chance.

Yes, that's the FoxNews sales pitch.

And American conservatives....our current Republican party...would never do such a thing. Is that it?

Did you just move to America five minutes ago, Pete, and only read the brochure?

I have no doubt there exist some Republicans who would pull the plug on MSNBC if given the chance. But to compare a few of those with entire Democratic movements dedicated to shutting down Fox (or Rogan, or Newsmax, etc) is apples and watermelons. I can name significantly funded Democratic entities whose sole purpose is to shut down speech. Media Matters is one such example.

Yeah, sorry man, you're being silly. American Conservatives (Republicans, currently) are 1000% times worse on this count, and have stuck it to their fellow Americans trying to live their lives for generations.

"You stop doing it first", is my answer to complaints from your team about financially punishing Americans for their views/race/sex/religion/etc.

Rogan, to his credit, understands that's he not some comic only a few people have heard of anymore. 10 million customers comes with some strings....and a bit of care is needed when you're talking about medical stuff.

If you're going to ask boycotters to be considerate, and use their power wisely? Not too much to ask Rogan to take the same care with the power that he has.

Dude,..

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... on/617827/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/when-will- ... 1617813301

https://nypost.com/2018/08/03/how-liber ... ee-speech/

https://www.city-journal.org/html/liber ... 14330.html

I cou!d list a billion of these, but this entire book by a Democrat will explain why you are wildly wrong:

https://www.amazon.com/Silencing-Left-K ... 1621573702

Oh, I don't disagree that THEY are doing that----and that it's irony set at 11. It's just that your team never stopped doing it!

Here's how you take the high ground: next time someone kneels during the Anthem? You don't just ignore it........you CELEBRATE it.

Do that, all across FoxNation......invite Meghan Rapinoe on, and Kaepernick on, and say "hey, I'm behind your free speech....why did you kneel, what's your issue with America?"


Remember those marchers for BLM? The peaceful ones? Did you listen to them? Encourage their peaceful work? Have a listen to why they're so upset? That confused the heck out of me, if you'll recall. Here you had thousands of Black Americans telling you that their Dem-run government is broken. I have NO IDEA why you didn't embrace them, and say "welcome to the team...how can I help?"

As I said before: YOU stop doing this first. Until then? All you're doing is saying "do as I say, not as I do".

A lot of what you say, I totally agree with. Republicans make a ton of self goals; not aligning with the peaceful side of BLM was one.

The prison industrial complex has mostly been promoted by Democratic prosecutors; they overshot, so now you are seeing imbecile DA’s going the complete opposite way, which doesn’t work either. Those former Democratic prosecutors became judges, or congresspeople, or worse, talking heads on MSNBC. They remain powerful. Most judges are former prosecutors. MSNBC and CNN employ no fewer than seven former producers who are Democrats.

We need to differentiate violent and non violent crime; you will note that most Democrats have now subscribed totally to the over-incarceration mentality that prosecutors want you to have. America needs to become more like Europe on incarceration. Republicans should reach out to black leaders and join hands untangling this immoral mess. Unfortunately, I’m not as hopeful today as I was, ironically, when Trump began to pay attention. Crime is rising, and certain cities are beginning to become unstable.

[a fan]

I think the assumption is that many Democrats would certainly try to suppress speech if given the chance.

Yes, that's the FoxNews sales pitch.

And American conservatives....our current Republican party...would never do such a thing. Is that it?

Did you just move to America five minutes ago, Pete, and only read the brochure?

I have no doubt there exist some Republicans who would pull the plug on MSNBC if given the chance. But to compare a few of those with entire Democratic movements dedicated to shutting down Fox (or Rogan, or Newsmax, etc) is apples and watermelons. I can name significantly funded Democratic entities whose sole purpose is to shut down speech. Media Matters is one such example.

Yeah, sorry man, you're being silly. American Conservatives (Republicans, currently) are 1000% times worse on this count, and have stuck it to their fellow Americans trying to live their lives for generations.

"You stop doing it first", is my answer to complaints from your team about financially punishing Americans for their views/race/sex/religion/etc.

Rogan, to his credit, understands that's he not some comic only a few people have heard of anymore. 10 million customers comes with some strings....and a bit of care is needed when you're talking about medical stuff.

If you're going to ask boycotters to be considerate, and use their power wisely? Not too much to ask Rogan to take the same care with the power that he has.

Dude,..

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... on/617827/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/when-will- ... 1617813301

https://nypost.com/2018/08/03/how-liber ... ee-speech/

https://www.city-journal.org/html/liber ... 14330.html

I cou!d list a billion of these, but this entire book by a Democrat will explain why you are wildly wrong:

https://www.amazon.com/Silencing-Left-K ... 1621573702

Oh, I don't disagree that THEY are doing that----and that it's irony set at 11. It's just that your team never stopped doing it!

Here's how you take the high ground: next time someone kneels during the Anthem? You don't just ignore it........you CELEBRATE it.

Do that, all across FoxNation......invite Meghan Rapinoe on, and Kaepernick on, and say "hey, I'm behind your free speech....why did you kneel, what's your issue with America?"


Remember those marchers for BLM? The peaceful ones? Did you listen to them? Encourage their peaceful work? Have a listen to why they're so upset? That confused the heck out of me, if you'll recall. Here you had thousands of Black Americans telling you that their Dem-run government is broken. I have NO IDEA why you didn't embrace them, and say "welcome to the team...how can I help?"

As I said before: YOU stop doing this first. Until then? All you're doing is saying "do as I say, not as I do".

A lot of what you say, I totally agree with.

Imagine that? That's what happens when you turn the troll down. Let's call it a good day!