I’ve known a few. Let’s just describe them as “summiteers”…Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:28 amGreat school but you may want to look at the number of bureaucrat and appointed folks under the prior administration you’d shake your head at who went to GTown law center.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:15 amTeaching constitutional law? Great. Wonder what returns that investment will yield?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:04 amThe law head shouldn’t be shocked when he hires someone from the Cato institute. And having diversity of thought is fine. If anything he should check his judgement in hiring a person who would write something they’d feel the need to delete quickly and apologize for.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:00 am Another d-bag swamp beast rises from the swamp.
“ An incoming Georgetown Law professor prompted outrage with a tweet that predicting President Joe Biden would nominate a "lesser Black woman" instead of a better-qualified man to join the Supreme Court.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/georget ... 2022-1?amp
Suppose it’s a little different at the graduate level and all walls have broken down in the social media era but I never understood why higher ed professionals were so free to interject their politics int whir work compared with most of the employed universe in this country where until the last 5-10yrs it wasn’t really discussed at work as much.
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Swinging from “deez …”?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:15 pmI’ve known a few. Let’s just describe them as “summiteers”…Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:28 amGreat school but you may want to look at the number of bureaucrat and appointed folks under the prior administration you’d shake your head at who went to GTown law center.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:15 amTeaching constitutional law? Great. Wonder what returns that investment will yield?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:04 amThe law head shouldn’t be shocked when he hires someone from the Cato institute. And having diversity of thought is fine. If anything he should check his judgement in hiring a person who would write something they’d feel the need to delete quickly and apologize for.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:00 am Another d-bag swamp beast rises from the swamp.
“ An incoming Georgetown Law professor prompted outrage with a tweet that predicting President Joe Biden would nominate a "lesser Black woman" instead of a better-qualified man to join the Supreme Court.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/georget ... 2022-1?amp
Suppose it’s a little different at the graduate level and all walls have broken down in the social media era but I never understood why higher ed professionals were so free to interject their politics int whir work compared with most of the employed universe in this country where until the last 5-10yrs it wasn’t really discussed at work as much.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Middle of the distribution. Idiots. Dullards. Fools.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:17 pmSwinging from “deez …”?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:15 pmI’ve known a few. Let’s just describe them as “summiteers”…Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:28 amGreat school but you may want to look at the number of bureaucrat and appointed folks under the prior administration you’d shake your head at who went to GTown law center.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:15 amTeaching constitutional law? Great. Wonder what returns that investment will yield?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:04 amThe law head shouldn’t be shocked when he hires someone from the Cato institute. And having diversity of thought is fine. If anything he should check his judgement in hiring a person who would write something they’d feel the need to delete quickly and apologize for.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:00 am Another d-bag swamp beast rises from the swamp.
“ An incoming Georgetown Law professor prompted outrage with a tweet that predicting President Joe Biden would nominate a "lesser Black woman" instead of a better-qualified man to join the Supreme Court.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/georget ... 2022-1?amp
Suppose it’s a little different at the graduate level and all walls have broken down in the social media era but I never understood why higher ed professionals were so free to interject their politics int whir work compared with most of the employed universe in this country where until the last 5-10yrs it wasn’t really discussed at work as much.
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Ah thought you meant sycophants who were social/political climbing by swinging from the “legumes” of powerful people.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:53 pmMiddle of the distribution. Idiots. Dullards. Fools.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:17 pmSwinging from “deez …”?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:15 pmI’ve known a few. Let’s just describe them as “summiteers”…Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:28 amGreat school but you may want to look at the number of bureaucrat and appointed folks under the prior administration you’d shake your head at who went to GTown law center.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:15 amTeaching constitutional law? Great. Wonder what returns that investment will yield?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:04 amThe law head shouldn’t be shocked when he hires someone from the Cato institute. And having diversity of thought is fine. If anything he should check his judgement in hiring a person who would write something they’d feel the need to delete quickly and apologize for.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:00 am Another d-bag swamp beast rises from the swamp.
“ An incoming Georgetown Law professor prompted outrage with a tweet that predicting President Joe Biden would nominate a "lesser Black woman" instead of a better-qualified man to join the Supreme Court.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/georget ... 2022-1?amp
Suppose it’s a little different at the graduate level and all walls have broken down in the social media era but I never understood why higher ed professionals were so free to interject their politics int whir work compared with most of the employed universe in this country where until the last 5-10yrs it wasn’t really discussed at work as much.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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I kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
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Thanks.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Worth watching all of it. Especially moving a little after 6 mins in.
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I'd be interested to understand what he means. I suspect it's not what you might think.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
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He said slavery had nothing to do with the civil war?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
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What he said was inartful, offhand..."I was taught that Lincoln freed the slaves. I was taught that the Civil War was fought because of slavery...the Civil War didn't start because of slavery. And you know how I know that? Because I was taught to think critically..." I may not have that 100% accurate, but close...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:29 pmHe said slavery had nothing to do with the civil war?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
I suspect he meant that it wasn't because of the morality of slavery, but rather over the economics and power (of slavery).
And that's a fair distinction....though easily misunderstood.
https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectiv ... civil-war/
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Thanks…..Old Youth wants to pretend that that guy isn’t like the rest of them because he doesn’t believe the civil war had anything to do with slavery…..slavery had nothing to do the civil war…..Just folks being PC. My great great grandfather fought in that war and lived to tell about it BTW.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:35 pmWhat he said was inartful, offhand..."I was taught that Lincoln freed the slaves. I was taught that the Civil War was fought because of slavery...the Civil War didn't start because of slavery. And you know how I know that? Because I was taught to think critically..." I may not have that 100% accurate, but close...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:29 pmHe said slavery had nothing to do with the civil war?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
I suspect he meant that it wasn't because of the morality of slavery, but rather over the economics and power (of slavery).
And that's a fair distinction....though easily misunderstood.
https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectiv ... civil-war/
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I was not pretending anything, I'll leave that to you.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:50 pmThanks…..Old Youth wants to pretend that that guy isn’t like the rest of them because he doesn’t believe the civil war had anything to do with slavery…..slavery had nothing to do the civil war…..Just folks being PC. My great great grandfather fought in that war and lived to tell about it BTW.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:35 pmWhat he said was inartful, offhand..."I was taught that Lincoln freed the slaves. I was taught that the Civil War was fought because of slavery...the Civil War didn't start because of slavery. And you know how I know that? Because I was taught to think critically..." I may not have that 100% accurate, but close...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:29 pmHe said slavery had nothing to do with the civil war?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
I suspect he meant that it wasn't because of the morality of slavery, but rather over the economics and power (of slavery).
And that's a fair distinction....though easily misunderstood.
https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectiv ... civil-war/
I was merely commenting on what I had just heard, even prefaced that I liked him. Ole' TLD just likes to assume the worse in everyone, might wanna work on that, too.
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Nope…my default is people are good. I get along with virtually everyone. You’ll see.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:02 pmI was not pretending anything, I'll leave that to you.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:50 pmThanks…..Old Youth wants to pretend that that guy isn’t like the rest of them because he doesn’t believe the civil war had anything to do with slavery…..slavery had nothing to do the civil war…..Just folks being PC. My great great grandfather fought in that war and lived to tell about it BTW.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:35 pmWhat he said was inartful, offhand..."I was taught that Lincoln freed the slaves. I was taught that the Civil War was fought because of slavery...the Civil War didn't start because of slavery. And you know how I know that? Because I was taught to think critically..." I may not have that 100% accurate, but close...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:29 pmHe said slavery had nothing to do with the civil war?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
I suspect he meant that it wasn't because of the morality of slavery, but rather over the economics and power (of slavery).
And that's a fair distinction....though easily misunderstood.
https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectiv ... civil-war/
I was merely commenting on what I had just heard, even prefaced that I liked him. Ole' TLD just likes to assume the worse in everyone, might wanna work on that, too.
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+1Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:08 pmNope…my default is people are good. I get along with virtually everyone. You’ll see.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:02 pmI was not pretending anything, I'll leave that to you.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:50 pmThanks…..Old Youth wants to pretend that that guy isn’t like the rest of them because he doesn’t believe the civil war had anything to do with slavery…..slavery had nothing to do the civil war…..Just folks being PC. My great great grandfather fought in that war and lived to tell about it BTW.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:35 pmWhat he said was inartful, offhand..."I was taught that Lincoln freed the slaves. I was taught that the Civil War was fought because of slavery...the Civil War didn't start because of slavery. And you know how I know that? Because I was taught to think critically..." I may not have that 100% accurate, but close...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:29 pmHe said slavery had nothing to do with the civil war?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
I suspect he meant that it wasn't because of the morality of slavery, but rather over the economics and power (of slavery).
And that's a fair distinction....though easily misunderstood.
https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectiv ... civil-war/
I was merely commenting on what I had just heard, even prefaced that I liked him. Ole' TLD just likes to assume the worse in everyone, might wanna work on that, too.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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I used to make that case….in high school. Eventually as I grew up (took a while I know) I came to understand you can’t bifurcate the two.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:35 pmWhat he said was inartful, offhand..."I was taught that Lincoln freed the slaves. I was taught that the Civil War was fought because of slavery...the Civil War didn't start because of slavery. And you know how I know that? Because I was taught to think critically..." I may not have that 100% accurate, but close...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:29 pmHe said slavery had nothing to do with the civil war?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
I suspect he meant that it wasn't because of the morality of slavery, but rather over the economics and power (of slavery).
And that's a fair distinction....though easily misunderstood.
https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectiv ... civil-war/
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Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Yup, all inextricably intertwined... I certainly suspect that he was not saying that slavery wasn't a big factor in the Civil War. Just a matter of whether you put the empPHAsis on the economics or on the morality as why folks were fighting. One could make either argument and not be saying what the Lost Cause folks want to teach instead. And have been teaching for years in many cases.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:15 pmI used to make that case….in high school. Eventually as I grew up (took a while I know) I came to understood you can’t bifurcate the two.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:35 pmWhat he said was inartful, offhand..."I was taught that Lincoln freed the slaves. I was taught that the Civil War was fought because of slavery...the Civil War didn't start because of slavery. And you know how I know that? Because I was taught to think critically..." I may not have that 100% accurate, but close...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:29 pmHe said slavery had nothing to do with the civil war?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
I suspect he meant that it wasn't because of the morality of slavery, but rather over the economics and power (of slavery).
And that's a fair distinction....though easily misunderstood.
https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectiv ... civil-war/
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The draft riots in NYC were predominately started by dock workers and longshoreman worried the free black men would flow into NYC and do their job on the cheap. These were Yankees concerned about themselves. The emancipation proclamation was a threat to them. They may have been NY Yankees but they really were not concerned about freeing the slaves. I bet that little part of civil war history was not taught when you learned about the civil war. It was never mentioned when I was in HS. I first heard about why those draft riots were a big deal years ago on a PBS special.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:35 pmWhat he said was inartful, offhand..."I was taught that Lincoln freed the slaves. I was taught that the Civil War was fought because of slavery...the Civil War didn't start because of slavery. And you know how I know that? Because I was taught to think critically..." I may not have that 100% accurate, but close...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:29 pmHe said slavery had nothing to do with the civil war?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
I suspect he meant that it wasn't because of the morality of slavery, but rather over the economics and power (of slavery).
And that's a fair distinction....though easily misunderstood.
https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectiv ... civil-war/
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Re: Is America a racist nation?
That’s CRT crazy talk.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:16 amThe draft riots in NYC were predominately started by dock workers and longshoreman worried the free black men would flow into NYC and do their job on the cheap. These were Yankees concerned about themselves. The emancipation proclamation was a threat to them. They may have been NY Yankees but they really were not concerned about freeing the slaves. I bet that little part of civil war history was not taught when you learned about the civil war. It was never mentioned when I was in HS. I first heard about why those draft riots were a big deal years ago on a PBS special.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:35 pmWhat he said was inartful, offhand..."I was taught that Lincoln freed the slaves. I was taught that the Civil War was fought because of slavery...the Civil War didn't start because of slavery. And you know how I know that? Because I was taught to think critically..." I may not have that 100% accurate, but close...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:29 pmHe said slavery had nothing to do with the civil war?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
I suspect he meant that it wasn't because of the morality of slavery, but rather over the economics and power (of slavery).
And that's a fair distinction....though easily misunderstood.
https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectiv ... civil-war/
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Re: Is America a racist nation?
... the south has been trying to rewrite history since 3PM, April 9th 1865. They have had significant success, they have been allowed to get away with it until the past few decades. It is one of the reasons we have the problems we have today.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:11 pmYup, all inextricably intertwined... I certainly suspect that he was not saying that slavery wasn't a big factor in the Civil War. Just a matter of whether you put the empPHAsis on the economics or on the morality as why folks were fighting. One could make either argument and not be saying what the Lost Cause folks want to teach instead. And have been teaching for years in many cases.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:15 pmI used to make that case….in high school. Eventually as I grew up (took a while I know) I came to understood you can’t bifurcate the two.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:35 pmWhat he said was inartful, offhand..."I was taught that Lincoln freed the slaves. I was taught that the Civil War was fought because of slavery...the Civil War didn't start because of slavery. And you know how I know that? Because I was taught to think critically..." I may not have that 100% accurate, but close...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:29 pmHe said slavery had nothing to do with the civil war?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
I suspect he meant that it wasn't because of the morality of slavery, but rather over the economics and power (of slavery).
And that's a fair distinction....though easily misunderstood.
https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectiv ... civil-war/
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My wife’s grandparents still literally call it “the northern aggression” with a straight face. But they seem to be more sore losers than (overt, intentional-most people carry at least a sliver of it unconsciously) racistsjhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:47 am... the south has been trying to rewrite history since 3PM, April 9th 1865. They have had significant success, they have been allowed to get away with it until the past few decades. It is one of the reasons we have the problems we have today.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:11 pmYup, all inextricably intertwined... I certainly suspect that he was not saying that slavery wasn't a big factor in the Civil War. Just a matter of whether you put the empPHAsis on the economics or on the morality as why folks were fighting. One could make either argument and not be saying what the Lost Cause folks want to teach instead. And have been teaching for years in many cases.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:15 pmI used to make that case….in high school. Eventually as I grew up (took a while I know) I came to understood you can’t bifurcate the two.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:35 pmWhat he said was inartful, offhand..."I was taught that Lincoln freed the slaves. I was taught that the Civil War was fought because of slavery...the Civil War didn't start because of slavery. And you know how I know that? Because I was taught to think critically..." I may not have that 100% accurate, but close...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:29 pmHe said slavery had nothing to do with the civil war?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:20 pmI kinda like him.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:09 pm Worth the watch:
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/14 ... 1661762562
Interesting comment he made...many here have said the civil war was fought over slavery, and he disagrees with that.
I suspect he meant that it wasn't because of the morality of slavery, but rather over the economics and power (of slavery).
And that's a fair distinction....though easily misunderstood.
https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectiv ... civil-war/
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah