All things CoronaVirus

[Typical Lax Dad]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

Since when are we supposed to trust Chinese? Trump did but I have never “trusted” the Chinese. What do you suggest the United States of America do about it? Have China pay reparations if a technician brought a sandwich home?

Was it all China? Was the US involved? The US certainly isn't interested in pursuing this either.

Hmm...

Soros and Gates were also involved

and Buffet!!

I forgot The Clinton Foundation.

[youthathletics]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

This is page one of the document they referenced the techs video link....project veritas has the full document on line with a bunch of watermarking. Quite telling.

Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

[MDlaxfan76]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

This is page one of the document they referenced the techs video link....project veritas has the full document on line with a bunch of watermarking. Quite telling.

Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

Love the first sentence: SARS-Cov-2 is an American created recombination bat vaccine, or its precursor virus.

Huh?

That whole first para is a doozy. Sure looks to me like that specific document is bogus. "unclassified"??? sure...

That said, I'm not surprised that there was this kind of work proposed. Note, it was also rejected by DARPA.

Not sure this is actually the incendiary revelation some are trying to make it out to be.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

This is page one of the document they referenced the techs video link....project veritas has the full document on line with a bunch of watermarking. Quite telling.

Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

Love the first sentence: SARS-Cov-2 is an American created recombination bat vaccine, or its precursor virus.

Huh?

That whole first para is a doozy. Sure looks to me like that specific document is bogus. "unclassified"??? sure...

That said, I'm not surprised that there was this kind of work proposed. Note, it was also rejected by DARPA.

Not sure this is actually the incendiary revelation some are trying to make it out to be.

If Project Veritas doesn’t solve the origin of COVID-19 mystery, maybe stuttering John will.

https://journals.lww.com/pidj/fulltext/ ... us.12.aspx

[youthathletics]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

This is page one of the document they referenced the techs video link....project veritas has the full document on line with a bunch of watermarking. Quite telling.

Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

Love the first sentence: SARS-Cov-2 is an American created recombination bat vaccine, or its precursor virus.

Huh?

That whole first para is a doozy. Sure looks to me like that specific document is bogus. "unclassified"??? sure...

That said, I'm not surprised that there was this kind of work proposed. Note, it was also rejected by DARPA.

Not sure this is actually the incendiary revelation some are trying to make it out to be.

You already said you don't really care at this point about the origin .... "what difference at this point does it make" attitude. So of course you think its bogus, you didn't write it.

Worth the read....
Read page 3 of doc at this link 2nd paragraph gets juicy: Seems they were trying to make a vaccine for bats, that carried the SARS virus. They actually designed aerosol for the caves to get it in to the bats system.

Take note of the bullet points on page 4...."The utility of certain counter measures" specifically the 3rd bullet point about what seems to work.

As I noted earlier...Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

[ggait]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

The USA intel community said/still says the origin is indeterminate.

The UA professor more recently has called BS on the lab leak. His account (involving some clever sleuthing) seems to be aging/prevailing quite well at this point.

So until someone comes up with something better, we'll go with wet market over lab leak.

In a new paper published in Science, UArizona virus expert Michael Worobey connects the dots from the beginning of the COVID-19 outbreak and shows that an origin other than the Huanan Seafood Market is extremely unlikely.

https://news.arizona.edu/story/evidence ... 0evolution

[Typical Lax Dad]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

This is page one of the document they referenced the techs video link....project veritas has the full document on line with a bunch of watermarking. Quite telling.

Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

Love the first sentence: SARS-Cov-2 is an American created recombination bat vaccine, or its precursor virus.

Huh?

That whole first para is a doozy. Sure looks to me like that specific document is bogus. "unclassified"??? sure...

That said, I'm not surprised that there was this kind of work proposed. Note, it was also rejected by DARPA.

Not sure this is actually the incendiary revelation some are trying to make it out to be.

You already said you don't really care at this point about the origin .... "what difference at this point does it make" attitude. So of course you think its bogus, you didn't write it.

Worth the read....
Read page 3 of doc at this link 2nd paragraph gets juicy: Seems they were trying to make a vaccine for bats, that carried the SARS virus. They actually designed aerosol for the caves to get it in to the bats system.

Take note of the bullet points on page 4...."The utility of certain counter measures" specifically the 3rd bullet point about what seems to work.

As I noted earlier...Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

No it’s not.

[Kismet]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

This is page one of the document they referenced the techs video link....project veritas has the full document on line with a bunch of watermarking. Quite telling.

Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

Love the first sentence: SARS-Cov-2 is an American created recombination bat vaccine, or its precursor virus.

Huh?

That whole first para is a doozy. Sure looks to me like that specific document is bogus. "unclassified"??? sure...

That said, I'm not surprised that there was this kind of work proposed. Note, it was also rejected by DARPA.

Not sure this is actually the incendiary revelation some are trying to make it out to be.

You already said you don't really care at this point about the origin .... "what difference at this point does it make" attitude. So of course you think its bogus, you didn't write it.

Worth the read....
Read page 3 of doc at this link 2nd paragraph gets juicy: Seems they were trying to make a vaccine for bats, that carried the SARS virus. They actually designed aerosol for the caves to get it in to the bats system.

Take note of the bullet points on page 4...."The utility of certain counter measures" specifically the 3rd bullet point about what seems to work.

As I noted earlier...Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

YA - You do realize that the Project Veritas guy O'Keefe is CONVICTED FELON of illegally entering government property under false pretenses. His outfit is currently under investigation by the FBI for illegal possession of stolen property (Biden daughter's diary).

So take it all with that in mind perhaps as to the veracity of this latest "news item".

[tech37]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

This is page one of the document they referenced the techs video link....project veritas has the full document on line with a bunch of watermarking. Quite telling.

Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

Love the first sentence: SARS-Cov-2 is an American created recombination bat vaccine, or its precursor virus.

Huh?

That whole first para is a doozy. Sure looks to me like that specific document is bogus. "unclassified"??? sure...

That said, I'm not surprised that there was this kind of work proposed. Note, it was also rejected by DARPA.

Not sure this is actually the incendiary revelation some are trying to make it out to be.

You already said you don't really care at this point about the origin .... "what difference at this point does it make" attitude. So of course you think its bogus, you didn't write it.

Worth the read....
Read page 3 of doc at this link 2nd paragraph gets juicy: Seems they were trying to make a vaccine for bats, that carried the SARS virus. They actually designed aerosol for the caves to get it in to the bats system.

Take note of the bullet points on page 4...."The utility of certain counter measures" specifically the 3rd bullet point about what seems to work.

As I noted earlier...Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

YA - You do realize that the Project Veritas guy O'Keefe is CONVICTED FELON of illegally entering government property under false pretenses. His outfit is currently under investigation by the FBI for illegal possession of stolen property (Biden daughter's diary).

So take it all with that in mind perhaps as to the veracity of this latest "news item".

Kismet. Did you listen to the Hill Rising piece? R Grim shares your skepticism re Project Veritas but I think has a more realistic POV in this instance.

[tech37]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

The USA intel community said/still says the origin is indeterminate.

Is this your idea of a joke?

[smoova]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

The USA intel community said/still says the origin is indeterminate.

Is this your idea of a joke?

Deep Joke.

[tech37]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

The USA intel community said/still says the origin is indeterminate.

Is this your idea of a joke?

Deep Joke.

What's a smoova?

[smoova]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

The USA intel community said/still says the origin is indeterminate.

Is this your idea of a joke?

Deep Joke.

What's a smoova?

What you use to smoove your BDUs.

[Kismet]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

This is page one of the document they referenced the techs video link....project veritas has the full document on line with a bunch of watermarking. Quite telling.

Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

Love the first sentence: SARS-Cov-2 is an American created recombination bat vaccine, or its precursor virus.

Huh?

That whole first para is a doozy. Sure looks to me like that specific document is bogus. "unclassified"??? sure...

That said, I'm not surprised that there was this kind of work proposed. Note, it was also rejected by DARPA.

Not sure this is actually the incendiary revelation some are trying to make it out to be.

You already said you don't really care at this point about the origin .... "what difference at this point does it make" attitude. So of course you think its bogus, you didn't write it.

Worth the read....
Read page 3 of doc at this link 2nd paragraph gets juicy: Seems they were trying to make a vaccine for bats, that carried the SARS virus. They actually designed aerosol for the caves to get it in to the bats system.

Take note of the bullet points on page 4...."The utility of certain counter measures" specifically the 3rd bullet point about what seems to work.

As I noted earlier...Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

YA - You do realize that the Project Veritas guy O'Keefe is CONVICTED FELON of illegally entering government property under false pretenses. His outfit is currently under investigation by the FBI for illegal possession of stolen property (Biden daughter's diary).

So take it all with that in mind perhaps as to the veracity of this latest "news item".

Kismet. Did you listen to the Hill Rising piece? R Grim shares your skepticism re Project Veritas but I think has a more realistic POV in this instance.

Did not listen to it but certainly the subject does deserve further in-depth investigation just not by these people like Veritas (I'm with Grim here). Sadly, this would require cooperation of the Chinese government which I do not think is in the cards in any way.

[tech37]

Yup, lab leaks happen.

It isn't worth much. Aside from culpability and liability.

It is also further evidence that what the government and it's information/science arm tells us cant always be trusted.

This is page one of the document they referenced the techs video link....project veritas has the full document on line with a bunch of watermarking. Quite telling.

Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

Love the first sentence: SARS-Cov-2 is an American created recombination bat vaccine, or its precursor virus.

Huh?

That whole first para is a doozy. Sure looks to me like that specific document is bogus. "unclassified"??? sure...

That said, I'm not surprised that there was this kind of work proposed. Note, it was also rejected by DARPA.

Not sure this is actually the incendiary revelation some are trying to make it out to be.

You already said you don't really care at this point about the origin .... "what difference at this point does it make" attitude. So of course you think its bogus, you didn't write it.

Worth the read....
Read page 3 of doc at this link 2nd paragraph gets juicy: Seems they were trying to make a vaccine for bats, that carried the SARS virus. They actually designed aerosol for the caves to get it in to the bats system.

Take note of the bullet points on page 4...."The utility of certain counter measures" specifically the 3rd bullet point about what seems to work.

As I noted earlier...Looking more and more like some knew exactly what was going on.

YA - You do realize that the Project Veritas guy O'Keefe is CONVICTED FELON of illegally entering government property under false pretenses. His outfit is currently under investigation by the FBI for illegal possession of stolen property (Biden daughter's diary).

So take it all with that in mind perhaps as to the veracity of this latest "news item".

Kismet. Did you listen to the Hill Rising piece? R Grim shares your skepticism re Project Veritas but I think has a more realistic POV in this instance.

Did not listen to it but certainly the subject does deserve further in-depth investigation just not by these people like Veritas (I'm with Grim here). Sadly, this would require cooperation of the Chinese government which I do not think is in the cards in any way.

Not to belabor this but my point being, Grim suggests to people who immediately write off PV, such as yourself, to not do that in this case. The evidence is compelling. But, suit yourself

[admin]

Though delayed (I just received the complaint about a post from over 2 weeks ago. But still worth having a reminder), let's remember to keep things civil, no personal attacks. Especially as the off-season is rapidly shifting to the on-season.

[tech37]

Who complained?... let me guess.

Civil is as civil does.

[jhu72]

Did not know where to put this so I am putting this here. This is really, really interesting,

authors did a longitudinal study in active military looking at the relationship between contracting the EB-virus and ultimately being diagnosed with MS. Lots of iffs, acknowledged by the author, but certainly is a jumping off point for further investigation.

https://www.science.org/content/article ... -sclerosis

The above is a commentary and not the actual article as I could not get the article up as my subscription is on another computer.

If this is tru, a EB-vaccine might just put clamps on MS. That would be cool.

I'm sure on cue there will be the......mouth breathers wouldn't take the vaccination comments.

... I think I put the original article in the Healthcare thread. EB virus is associated / (triggers ?) something like a half dozen autoimmune diseases. Given this new MS research result, I suspect researchers are going to start looking at an EB vaccine seriously. If you could eradicate it you would put a number of diseases out of business perhaps.

Know diseases it is associated with:

1 - Mixed connective tissue disease (MCTD)
2 - Polymyositis – dermatomyositis (PM-DM)
3 - Rheumatoid arthritis (RA)
4 - Sjögren’s syndrome (SS)
5 - Systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE)
6 - Systemic sclerosis (SSc)

1 year old paper on the connection of EBV to SADs.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Who complained?... let me guess.

Civil is as civil does.

The Establishment

[tech37]

Who complained?... let me guess.

Civil is as civil does.

The Establishment

You would most certainly know.