cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:08 am
a fan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:07 am
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:22 pm
We've paid billions in gas taxes to maintain the Interstates & still are. Tolls collected at the gas pump.
Yes. Massive subsidies that favor gas cars over rails....you finally get it!
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:22 pm
Electric vehicles are not necessary. They are a choice & they are not yet a practical choice.
Yes. And that's what railroad owners said about cars.....they get *hit mileage, and were rendered useless by rain on mud roads. Impractical.
Then the government stepped in, and MADE them practical. Sensing a pattern yet?
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:54 pm
What is your idea of limited govt ? Dirt rods, horses & buggies ? Population crammed into mega-cities, dependent upon public transportation. I can see why you'd like that - much easier to control the population & dictate to them.
Hey, I'm not the guy who spent his career ordering people around. You got it backwards,
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:22 pm
BIB was a bi-partisan bill. It would not have happened without (R) votes. Even then, it took billions in climate change ransom to get transportaion infrastructure funded.
Right. So what did we learn?
Next time, ask your party to get off their *ss, and pass an infrastructure bill that you won't complain about. I'd be DELIGHTED to see your team actually get off their *sses and GOVERN for a change.
Your opinion on EC is a bit disengenous. EC should be a choice. The government is pushing EC as being the only vehicles you will be allowed to buy and drive. Big government telling me what car I'm allowed to drive. What decision in the name of saving the planet will the government make for me next?
Again----this is PRECISELY what was said when we started using public funds at a level never seen before to pump money into government owned roads. If you were a conservative around WWII? You were LIVID that the taxpayer had to pay for asphalt roads, instead of letting private firms pay for it all, as they did with all those rail lines.
The US Government CHOSE gas cars as the winner. The US Government CHOSE to enable suburban sprawl that would have been unaffordable if the roads were all privately owned and operated.
We do this all the time. Heck, they tax my spirits at a higher rate than beer or wine, which obviously is a subsidy for wine and beer producers.
My point, obviously, is if we're going to say no to the EC car subsidies? Great. Then end ALL government subsidies....I'm 1000% on board with that.
We're not going to do that. Because of course we're not.