a fan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:01 pm
tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:24 am
I disagree with your almost immediate dismissal of Paxlovid before it has even been put to work and data can be reviewed. Your pessimistic POV may end up being correct but I certainly hope not. [/color][/b]
I'm not dismissing ANY drug. I'm with you----I hope they're wonderful, and have said so in the past. I have NO interest in any more of my fellow Americans dying.
But what I'm trying to tell you East Coast lot that things are different out this way. So when Old Salt links John Madden quotes as if I'm not working with these people on a daily basis--------truck drivers, orchardists, farmers, etc.------it tells me that he's forgotten where I live, and what I do for a living.
I"m now up to five dead. Five rural colleagues and/or friends.....dead from stubbornness. They didn't die from Covid, IMHO. They died from a mixture of social media and stubbornness. That's why I brought up Reagan, btw-----every one of these wonderful, hardcore, salt of the Earth conservatives are the people who run blood drives in their rural towns. Baked goods for HS trips. And 20+ years ago? They would have been out there, running a vaccine drive for their community.
Would've been six dead if my brother's best friend from HS didn't make it out of ICU around Thanksgiving. Staunch anti-vaxxer. Whole family is unvaxxed----five kids, all of them dependent on dad to put food on the table. Did he consider them when making his silly choices? F no. And, of course, he took the full range of treatments/advice the doctor had on hand when he arrived near-dead. Could he tell you what was in the drugs and treatments he received? Did he "do his research" on this care he received? F no. Hypocrisy that nearly killed him.
So yep------I'm angry, frustrated, tired, and freaking sad. And yep, it may come across as condescension....but when someone acts like a child, instead of the rational adult that you've known for years? You owe it to them to tell them they're not making any sense, and are acting like irresponsible children.
a fan, I'm sorry to hear this pandemic has become personal for you. That does add perspective.
If I may, I'd like to add some personal perspective but from a more selfish angle (as in, looking out for #1). A while ago, you and I went back and forth re my doctor visit in Oct. I was trying to get an idea of what advice/decisions I could expect from him should I come down with Covid. When I asked about monoclonals, he said I would qualify based on age but based on my physical results (no brag, just fact
), I probably wouldn't be sick enough to qualify. I guess he thought he was making me feel better
Seriously though, where would that leave me? I want treatment options to go home and wait this sh!t out with. Paxlovid is something I would hope to have as an option. Sans Pax, I would take Ivermectin and/or Fluvoxamine, based upon the years they've been utilized (I fully realize it would be off-label) and their safety records. Re the Merck pill, I would not feel very confident based on what I've read/heard.
I would love to see those options and more available for everyone, but as you know, charity begins at home.