This vid was linked to Glenn Greenwald's feed. Hardly MAGA...but truthful none the less. Just illustrating for you that no matter how many dumb videos you post, there are contrary videos. Difference? Most people on here don't have as much time to waste searching for them as you.
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Your path would lead to thousands more dead. That's why they didn't take your path, tech. They chose wisely.tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:57 pmSure, "my path"a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:43 pmYou don't know what I mean by "this path of yours"??
You wanted "therapeutics" available 6 months ago, right? And you've also been telling us that you wanted Biden and his administration to tell the public in every Covid briefing that these therapeutical are available, for free, to every American, right?
That's your path, correct? The one that you're angry that we didn't take, correct?
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Fools are fools!tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:06 pmThis vid was linked to Glenn Greenwald's feed. Hardly MAGA...but truthful none the less. Just illustrating for you that no matter how many dumb videos you post, there are contrary videos. Difference? Most people on here don't have as much time to waste searching for them as you.
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I have no idea what you're trying to say.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:19 pmYour path would lead to thousands more dead. That's why they didn't take your path, tech. They chose wisely.tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:57 pmSure, "my path"a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:43 pmYou don't know what I mean by "this path of yours"??
You wanted "therapeutics" available 6 months ago, right? And you've also been telling us that you wanted Biden and his administration to tell the public in every Covid briefing that these therapeutical are available, for free, to every American, right?
That's your path, correct? The one that you're angry that we didn't take, correct?
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Your path would have led hundreds of thousands of Americans to choose not take the vaccines.....because Biden would keep touting the availability of the less effective therapeutics like you wanted.tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:31 pmI have no idea what you're trying to say.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:19 pmYour path would lead to thousands more dead. That's why they didn't take your path, tech. They chose wisely.tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:57 pmSure, "my path"a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:43 pmYou don't know what I mean by "this path of yours"??
You wanted "therapeutics" available 6 months ago, right? And you've also been telling us that you wanted Biden and his administration to tell the public in every Covid briefing that these therapeutical are available, for free, to every American, right?
That's your path, correct? The one that you're angry that we didn't take, correct?
The simple math behind those choices would mean more dead.
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Not surprisingly, that isn't my point at all. Do you actually not understand, that if treatments had been available for already sick people, many would have been saved? There was no "choice" available for already sick people, that's the point.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:36 pmYour path would have led hundreds of thousands of Americans to choose not take the vaccines.....because Biden would keep touting the availability of the less effective therapeutics like you wanted.tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:31 pmI have no idea what you're trying to say.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:19 pmYour path would lead to thousands more dead. That's why they didn't take your path, tech. They chose wisely.tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:57 pmSure, "my path"a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:43 pmYou don't know what I mean by "this path of yours"??
You wanted "therapeutics" available 6 months ago, right? And you've also been telling us that you wanted Biden and his administration to tell the public in every Covid briefing that these therapeutical are available, for free, to every American, right?
That's your path, correct? The one that you're angry that we didn't take, correct?
The simple math behind those choices would mean more dead.
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How many?tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:45 pmUnsurprisingly, that isn't my point at all. Do you actually not understand, that if treatments had been available for already sick people, many would have been saved? There was no "choice" available for already sick people, that's the point.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:36 pmYour path would have led hundreds of thousands of Americans to choose not take the vaccines.....because Biden would keep touting the availability of the less effective therapeutics like you wanted.tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:31 pmI have no idea what you're trying to say.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:19 pmYour path would lead to thousands more dead. That's why they didn't take your path, tech. They chose wisely.tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:57 pmSure, "my path"a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:43 pmYou don't know what I mean by "this path of yours"??
You wanted "therapeutics" available 6 months ago, right? And you've also been telling us that you wanted Biden and his administration to tell the public in every Covid briefing that these therapeutical are available, for free, to every American, right?
That's your path, correct? The one that you're angry that we didn't take, correct?
The simple math behind those choices would mean more dead.
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Oh boy, here we go again ...
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Maybe the question is really....how many deaths of unvaccinated, with covid, that also received therapeutics?
I have not seen that stat.
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Probably most hospital deaths would be a good guess. The April 2020 to April 2021 deaths were probably all unvaccinated. Maybe 350,000 deaths up to that point. Not sure if you had stopped using your excel spreadsheet to chart it by then? My guess is 375,000 unvaccinated folks received a last ditch effort in which doctors threw the kitchen sink at it, still didn’t make it. Your number might be 10,000.youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:47 pmMaybe the question is really....how many deaths of unvaccinated, with covid, that also received therapeutics?
I have not seen that stat.
https://fox2now.com/news/national/what- ... in-us/amp/
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The counterfactual is a risky proposition.tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:45 pmNot surprisingly, that isn't my point at all. Do you actually not understand, that if treatments had been available for already sick people, many would have been saved? There was no "choice" available for already sick people, that's the point.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:36 pmYour path would have led hundreds of thousands of Americans to choose not take the vaccines.....because Biden would keep touting the availability of the less effective therapeutics like you wanted.tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:31 pmI have no idea what you're trying to say.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:19 pmYour path would lead to thousands more dead. That's why they didn't take your path, tech. They chose wisely.tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:57 pmSure, "my path"a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:43 pmYou don't know what I mean by "this path of yours"??
You wanted "therapeutics" available 6 months ago, right? And you've also been telling us that you wanted Biden and his administration to tell the public in every Covid briefing that these therapeutical are available, for free, to every American, right?
That's your path, correct? The one that you're angry that we didn't take, correct?
The simple math behind those choices would mean more dead.
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We'll have those numbers at some point.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:09 pmProbably most hospital deaths would be a good guess. The April 2020 to April 2021 deaths were probably all unvaccinated. Maybe 350,000 deaths up to that point. Not sure if you had stopped using your excel spreadsheet to chart it by then? My guess is 375,000 unvaccinated folks received a last ditch effort in which doctors threw the kitchen sink at it, still didn’t make it. Your number might be 10,000.youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:47 pmMaybe the question is really....how many deaths of unvaccinated, with covid, that also received therapeutics?
I have not seen that stat.
https://fox2now.com/news/national/what- ... in-us/amp/
My money is on: nearly all of these patients received what tech would call "therapeutics" before dying.
Which, again, tells you why they are focused on getting people vaccinated above all else.
Spoiler alert: the vaccines work, and the therapeutics don't work anywhere close to as well as the vaccines. And many of the therapeutics do nothing at all by the time the sick arrive at the hospital.
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It’s logical.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:45 pmWe'll have those numbers at some point.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:09 pmProbably most hospital deaths would be a good guess. The April 2020 to April 2021 deaths were probably all unvaccinated. Maybe 350,000 deaths up to that point. Not sure if you had stopped using your excel spreadsheet to chart it by then? My guess is 375,000 unvaccinated folks received a last ditch effort in which doctors threw the kitchen sink at it, still didn’t make it. Your number might be 10,000.youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:47 pmMaybe the question is really....how many deaths of unvaccinated, with covid, that also received therapeutics?
I have not seen that stat.
https://fox2now.com/news/national/what- ... in-us/amp/
My money is on: nearly all of these patients received what tech would call "therapeutics" before dying.
Which, again, tells you why they are focused on getting people vaccinated above all else.
Spoiler alert: the vaccines work, and the therapeutics don't work anywhere close to as well as any of these therapeutics----many of which do nothing at all by the time the sick arrive at the hospital.
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my opinion, this is a silly discussion, that as above.... will never know the numbers.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:45 pmWe'll have those numbers at some point.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:09 pmProbably most hospital deaths would be a good guess. The April 2020 to April 2021 deaths were probably all unvaccinated. Maybe 350,000 deaths up to that point. Not sure if you had stopped using your excel spreadsheet to chart it by then? My guess is 375,000 unvaccinated folks received a last ditch effort in which doctors threw the kitchen sink at it, still didn’t make it. Your number might be 10,000.youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:47 pmMaybe the question is really....how many deaths of unvaccinated, with covid, that also received therapeutics?
I have not seen that stat.
https://fox2now.com/news/national/what- ... in-us/amp/
My money is on: nearly all of these patients received what tech would call "therapeutics" before dying.
Which, again, tells you why they are focused on getting people vaccinated above all else.
Spoiler alert: the vaccines work, and the therapeutics don't work anywhere close to as well as the vaccines. And many of the therapeutics do nothing at all by the time the sick arrive at the hospital.
were there a ton of companies trying to find a therapeutic solution? yes, and still are.
did "we" push that as hard as we could? it seems not. you were on record, in fact, that we should've been investing billions (tens of billions?) into vaccine production in 2020 when we had zero idea if they would've been effective, yay?
how much is now being invested now almost 2 years later for therapeutics?
it's very strange you're arguing this hard.
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In the history of mankind, what other infectious diseases were overcome with therapeutics? Legitimate question.wgdsr wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:13 pmmy opinion, this is a silly discussion, that as above.... will never know the numbers.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:45 pmWe'll have those numbers at some point.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:09 pmProbably most hospital deaths would be a good guess. The April 2020 to April 2021 deaths were probably all unvaccinated. Maybe 350,000 deaths up to that point. Not sure if you had stopped using your excel spreadsheet to chart it by then? My guess is 375,000 unvaccinated folks received a last ditch effort in which doctors threw the kitchen sink at it, still didn’t make it. Your number might be 10,000.youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:47 pmMaybe the question is really....how many deaths of unvaccinated, with covid, that also received therapeutics?
I have not seen that stat.
https://fox2now.com/news/national/what- ... in-us/amp/
My money is on: nearly all of these patients received what tech would call "therapeutics" before dying.
Which, again, tells you why they are focused on getting people vaccinated above all else.
Spoiler alert: the vaccines work, and the therapeutics don't work anywhere close to as well as the vaccines. And many of the therapeutics do nothing at all by the time the sick arrive at the hospital.
were there a ton of companies trying to find a therapeutic solution? yes, and still are.
did "we" push that as hard as we could? it seems not. you were on record, in fact, that we should've been investing billions (tens of billions?) into vaccine production in 2020 when we had zero idea if they would've been effective, yay?
how much is now being invested now almost 2 years later for therapeutics?
it's very strange you're arguing this hard.
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We didn't have zero idea, that's incorrect. And yes, you bet I was doing that. Guess who was right? And no not me.....Trump. Trump was right for choosing to bet the ranch vaccines over, say, pills, to cite just one example. Scoreboard: Trump.
Of Federal dollars? No one knows. It's unclear.
No, it isn't.
How much less effective are therapeutics in real world conditions than the vaccine? Half as effective? A third? Less than that? There is timing involved with the other treatments.....timing that doesn't come in to play with vaccines.
And how many of the unvaccinated think that there's a lifeline waiting for them at the hospital should they get a bad case of Covid because guys like Joe Rogan told them it was there.
Wsdsr.......we're well north of 100,000,000 unvaccinated Americans.
And folks forget----this thing isn't going anywhere with 40% of the population unvaccinated. So guess what that means? We're gonna have several rounds of boosters. Which means the number of vaccinated Americans is likely to go DOWN, not up over the next few years.
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before i start with all the other.. i thought you said over and over that billions should've been invested in vaccine production. we did not "know" effectiveness until like november 9, 2020. or do you have any earlier date?a fan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:25 pmWe didn't have zero idea, that's incorrect. And yes, you bet I was doing that. Guess who was right? And no not me.....Trump. Trump was right for choosing to bet the ranch vaccines over, say, pills, to cite just one example. Scoreboard: Trump.
Of Federal dollars? No one knows. It's unclear.
No, it isn't.
How much less effective are therapeutics in real world conditions than the vaccine? Half as effective? A third? Less than that? There is timing involved with the other treatments.....timing that doesn't come in to play with vaccines.
And how many of the unvaccinated think that there's a lifeline waiting for them at the hospital should they get a bad case of Covid because guys like Joe Rogan told them it was there.
Wsdsr.......we're well north of 100,000,000 unvaccinated Americans.
And folks forget----this thing isn't going anywhere with 40% of the population unvaccinated. So guess what that means? We're gonna have several rounds of boosters. Which means the number of vaccinated Americans is likely to go DOWN, not up over the next few years.