I agree, though we may see some scrambling these first few weeks...I think some more data on actual serious disease, differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated, boosted and non boosted, etc will be helpful, as would more granularity of testing for viral load.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:10 amMy guess is that it won’t be handled like 2021 because conditions on the ground have changed. We will see how it goes.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:04 amI assume we're talking about winter sports?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:55 amTime will tell . That was pre-vaccine and boosters….. “last year”…..just that….last year.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:47 ami would assume we'll be hearing soon of harvard cancelling all athletic activities from now thru the 1st 3 weeks of spring semester, as we were told that their actions last year were in large part to not provide "advantages" to athletes. that that's what the ivies are about. and student-athlete.xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:19 pm If I was a Harvard fan I would be officially nervous, I have no reason to believe they won’t cancel again.
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Maybe, maybe not...those 3 weeks of the upcoming month, 2nd semester. It does seem to me that they will likely ultimately find a different path than last year...not so sure about these first few weeks when they've gone to online classes...but they should be able to do it through testing...but with this wave happening so fast, might not have many athletes cleared anyway. Games are getting cancelled all over, so not specific to Ivies.
The Ivy spring sports can't have practices until Feb 1 anyway, if I'm not mistaken.
Have the Ivies universally required boosters by end of January?
That could give them some leeway too.
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Lets certainly hope so...otherwise what message are they sending by saying you need vaccinated and boosted to be on campus, but we decide to shut things down regardless, the craziness ensues. My sons school has just sent out a letter requiring boosters....kinda silly if you ask me. It'd be better served to sign a legal waiver releasing the college of liability from any and all cv-19 related illness and move on; that's what its all really about in their eyes anyway. Damned lawyers.
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I can only hope you are right about reacting differently this year. To add some facts to the discussion, Harvard has a very limited J term, and that has been moved to online. The bulk of the students don’t start classes until the spring term begins on January 24th. So Harvard is taking advantage of that break, without any large impact on the student body. In season sports look like they are still on schedule and on campus. The one wild card is that the spring teams usually come back early to train and run captains practices before the spring term starts, and before the official season starts 1st of February. Whether they will be allowed back on campus early is not clear at this point.
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I am waiting for the “Ivy League wants to eliminate sports” posts.ctbagataway wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:00 pm I can only hope you are right about reacting differently this year. To add some facts to the discussion, Harvard has a very limited J term, and that has been moved to online. The bulk of the students don’t start classes until the spring term begins on January 24th. So Harvard is taking advantage of that break, without any large impact on the student body. In season sports look like they are still on schedule and on campus. The one wild card is that the spring teams usually come back early to train and run captains practices before the spring term starts, and before the official season starts 1st of February. Whether they will be allowed back on campus early is not clear at this point.
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Who's deciding what is "misinformation," you? Obviously anything I posted made it through the BigTech platform filters (and that alone certainly doesn't prove misinformation, either way). So it's really very subjective isn't it? Of course you're going to refer to anything outside of CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, etc. as misinformation... that's been your feverish mantra. Hint: there are a lot of very smart people with great ideas working outside of the bureaucracy. Too bad you don't/or won't notice.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:47 amPosting medical misinformation is promoting medical misinformation, spreading medical misinformation...at any time you'd wished, you could have said, "I think this is total BS, but here's an example of the medical misinformation getting peddled for clicks, eyeballs and dough"...but no, you posted with acclamations of agreement and support...tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:49 am"promoted"? To use your words, perhaps you should "get a room" with "knuckleheads" on the politics/covid thread? I promoted nothing. I simply shared available information that happens to be contrary to current medical establishment directives, obviously a threat to your personal judgement of how things ought to be. Don't forget... true science and skepticism go hand-in-hand.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:58 pmWell, yes, nothing you said is exactly false.tech37 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:01 pmThe "regular medical establishment" has failed everyone by not having therapeutics available to treat positive cases. Months ago, these should have been an available tool, along with vaccines, to fight this virus. Now with Omicron, there will be many more breakthrough cases and still no therapeutics. Go home, isolate, and hope for the best. If you're lucky, you'll qualify for monoclonal ab treatment. Total bullsh!t.Bearfan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:37 pm If not one person in your extended circle has not even had to go to the hospital for Covid then you must live in a pocket where the incidence of Covid is very low or you have an incredibly small circle(no attack intended).
An earlier poster seemed to criticize Biden for increased deaths despite having the vaccine. I can promise you that without the vaccines, boosters and preventative measures of social distancing, masks, etc the death toll would be dramatically higher.
When people discuss numbers of deaths or cases of hospitalized Covid they need to discuss whether that individual is boosted, vaccinated or not. Greater than 95% of those hospitalized with Covid in my hospital( I am a physician) are unvaccinated. And the small minority that are vaccinated, boosted and hospitalized are invariably elderly or with major medical commorbidities.
I am comfortable going indoors with a vaccine, boosted and perhaps masked. I know if I get Covid I will have a minor flu like experience or even be asymptomatic. My only fear is that if I am tested I will only suffer by having to stop travel, work, etc. and the only people I will really potentially harm are those unvaccinated. And it is the unvaccinated that are prolonging the Covid mutations. And the regular medical establishment is losing patience with these individuals. And wait until you or your loved ones are denied emergency lifesaving medical treatment because ICUs are filled with unvaccinated patients who did not want to be told that getting a vaccine was the prudent thing to do. The general population will start losing patience with the unvaccinated and there will be ugly incidents coming soon
But nearly everything you wrote is pure horse hockey.
You promoted phony, snake oil "therapeutics" and now you complain that the scientists, "the regular medical establishment" "failed everyone" by not finding a drug, developing a drug that would resolve a novel virus...how many drugs exist that cure any virus? How long did they take to develop??? You really think you could do better...or is snake oil what you want??? And low and behold, it looks like there actually may be a successful pill regimen available later this winter..."failed"
Yes, there are going to "breakthrough" cases...especially among those not boosted...and many more among those not vaccinated...
No, don't go home... do get vaccinated, get boosted and wear a mask in dense indoor situations...avoid the unvaccinated, yes. Vaccines work, and looks like we'll have a pill regimen very shortly.
Play ball.
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These people can’t shut down sports fast enough.
These people can’t shut down sports fast enough.
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I would be one of those people. I’m the only one who noticed that the cdc, fda, nih, and who are so stupid that they don’t know hordes of unvaccinated people flooding the border and spreading into the country is really bad in a pandemic. I was also the only one who noticed Joe Biden has dementia. Those organizations are completely unaware. That’s when I realized they are not good information sources.tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:11 pmWho's deciding what is "misinformation," you? Obviously anything I posted made it through the BigTech platform filters (and that alone certainly doesn't prove misinformation, either way). So it's really very subjective isn't it? Of course you're going to refer to anything outside of CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, etc. as misinformation... that's been your feverish mantra. Hint: there are a lot of very smart people with great ideas working outside of the bureaucracy. Too bad you don't/or won't notice.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:47 amPosting medical misinformation is promoting medical misinformation, spreading medical misinformation...at any time you'd wished, you could have said, "I think this is total BS, but here's an example of the medical misinformation getting peddled for clicks, eyeballs and dough"...but no, you posted with acclamations of agreement and support...tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:49 am"promoted"? To use your words, perhaps you should "get a room" with "knuckleheads" on the politics/covid thread? I promoted nothing. I simply shared available information that happens to be contrary to current medical establishment directives, obviously a threat to your personal judgement of how things ought to be. Don't forget... true science and skepticism go hand-in-hand.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:58 pmWell, yes, nothing you said is exactly false.tech37 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:01 pmThe "regular medical establishment" has failed everyone by not having therapeutics available to treat positive cases. Months ago, these should have been an available tool, along with vaccines, to fight this virus. Now with Omicron, there will be many more breakthrough cases and still no therapeutics. Go home, isolate, and hope for the best. If you're lucky, you'll qualify for monoclonal ab treatment. Total bullsh!t.Bearfan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:37 pm If not one person in your extended circle has not even had to go to the hospital for Covid then you must live in a pocket where the incidence of Covid is very low or you have an incredibly small circle(no attack intended).
An earlier poster seemed to criticize Biden for increased deaths despite having the vaccine. I can promise you that without the vaccines, boosters and preventative measures of social distancing, masks, etc the death toll would be dramatically higher.
When people discuss numbers of deaths or cases of hospitalized Covid they need to discuss whether that individual is boosted, vaccinated or not. Greater than 95% of those hospitalized with Covid in my hospital( I am a physician) are unvaccinated. And the small minority that are vaccinated, boosted and hospitalized are invariably elderly or with major medical commorbidities.
I am comfortable going indoors with a vaccine, boosted and perhaps masked. I know if I get Covid I will have a minor flu like experience or even be asymptomatic. My only fear is that if I am tested I will only suffer by having to stop travel, work, etc. and the only people I will really potentially harm are those unvaccinated. And it is the unvaccinated that are prolonging the Covid mutations. And the regular medical establishment is losing patience with these individuals. And wait until you or your loved ones are denied emergency lifesaving medical treatment because ICUs are filled with unvaccinated patients who did not want to be told that getting a vaccine was the prudent thing to do. The general population will start losing patience with the unvaccinated and there will be ugly incidents coming soon
But nearly everything you wrote is pure horse hockey.
You promoted phony, snake oil "therapeutics" and now you complain that the scientists, "the regular medical establishment" "failed everyone" by not finding a drug, developing a drug that would resolve a novel virus...how many drugs exist that cure any virus? How long did they take to develop??? You really think you could do better...or is snake oil what you want??? And low and behold, it looks like there actually may be a successful pill regimen available later this winter..."failed"
Yes, there are going to "breakthrough" cases...especially among those not boosted...and many more among those not vaccinated...
No, don't go home... do get vaccinated, get boosted and wear a mask in dense indoor situations...avoid the unvaccinated, yes. Vaccines work, and looks like we'll have a pill regimen very shortly.
Play ball.
Play ball.
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They are dirty and carry disease and want to rape our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:26 pmI would be one of those people. I’m the only one who noticed that the cdc, fda, nih, and who are so stupid that they don’t know hordes of unvaccinated people flooding the border and spreading into the country is really bad in a pandemic. I was also the only one who noticed Joe Biden has dementia. Those organizations are completely unaware. That’s when I realized they are not good information sources.tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:11 pmWho's deciding what is "misinformation," you? Obviously anything I posted made it through the BigTech platform filters (and that alone certainly doesn't prove misinformation, either way). So it's really very subjective isn't it? Of course you're going to refer to anything outside of CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, etc. as misinformation... that's been your feverish mantra. Hint: there are a lot of very smart people with great ideas working outside of the bureaucracy. Too bad you don't/or won't notice.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:47 amPosting medical misinformation is promoting medical misinformation, spreading medical misinformation...at any time you'd wished, you could have said, "I think this is total BS, but here's an example of the medical misinformation getting peddled for clicks, eyeballs and dough"...but no, you posted with acclamations of agreement and support...tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:49 am"promoted"? To use your words, perhaps you should "get a room" with "knuckleheads" on the politics/covid thread? I promoted nothing. I simply shared available information that happens to be contrary to current medical establishment directives, obviously a threat to your personal judgement of how things ought to be. Don't forget... true science and skepticism go hand-in-hand.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:58 pmWell, yes, nothing you said is exactly false.tech37 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:01 pmThe "regular medical establishment" has failed everyone by not having therapeutics available to treat positive cases. Months ago, these should have been an available tool, along with vaccines, to fight this virus. Now with Omicron, there will be many more breakthrough cases and still no therapeutics. Go home, isolate, and hope for the best. If you're lucky, you'll qualify for monoclonal ab treatment. Total bullsh!t.Bearfan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:37 pm If not one person in your extended circle has not even had to go to the hospital for Covid then you must live in a pocket where the incidence of Covid is very low or you have an incredibly small circle(no attack intended).
An earlier poster seemed to criticize Biden for increased deaths despite having the vaccine. I can promise you that without the vaccines, boosters and preventative measures of social distancing, masks, etc the death toll would be dramatically higher.
When people discuss numbers of deaths or cases of hospitalized Covid they need to discuss whether that individual is boosted, vaccinated or not. Greater than 95% of those hospitalized with Covid in my hospital( I am a physician) are unvaccinated. And the small minority that are vaccinated, boosted and hospitalized are invariably elderly or with major medical commorbidities.
I am comfortable going indoors with a vaccine, boosted and perhaps masked. I know if I get Covid I will have a minor flu like experience or even be asymptomatic. My only fear is that if I am tested I will only suffer by having to stop travel, work, etc. and the only people I will really potentially harm are those unvaccinated. And it is the unvaccinated that are prolonging the Covid mutations. And the regular medical establishment is losing patience with these individuals. And wait until you or your loved ones are denied emergency lifesaving medical treatment because ICUs are filled with unvaccinated patients who did not want to be told that getting a vaccine was the prudent thing to do. The general population will start losing patience with the unvaccinated and there will be ugly incidents coming soon
But nearly everything you wrote is pure horse hockey.
You promoted phony, snake oil "therapeutics" and now you complain that the scientists, "the regular medical establishment" "failed everyone" by not finding a drug, developing a drug that would resolve a novel virus...how many drugs exist that cure any virus? How long did they take to develop??? You really think you could do better...or is snake oil what you want??? And low and behold, it looks like there actually may be a successful pill regimen available later this winter..."failed"
Yes, there are going to "breakthrough" cases...especially among those not boosted...and many more among those not vaccinated...
No, don't go home... do get vaccinated, get boosted and wear a mask in dense indoor situations...avoid the unvaccinated, yes. Vaccines work, and looks like we'll have a pill regimen very shortly.
Play ball.
Play ball.
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I almost forgot…..these Ivy and NESCAC schools won’t close down this year because Trump isn’t in office.
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harvard must have a new administration. hope they've had experience in dealing with this over the last 2 years. i'm sure they have, even if they've been hired from outside.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:21 pm https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/ ... vid-spike/
These people can’t shut down sports fast enough.
we'll see.
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You’re racistTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:36 pmThey are dirty and carry disease and want to rape our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:26 pmI would be one of those people. I’m the only one who noticed that the cdc, fda, nih, and who are so stupid that they don’t know hordes of unvaccinated people flooding the border and spreading into the country is really bad in a pandemic. I was also the only one who noticed Joe Biden has dementia. Those organizations are completely unaware. That’s when I realized they are not good information sources.tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:11 pmWho's deciding what is "misinformation," you? Obviously anything I posted made it through the BigTech platform filters (and that alone certainly doesn't prove misinformation, either way). So it's really very subjective isn't it? Of course you're going to refer to anything outside of CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, etc. as misinformation... that's been your feverish mantra. Hint: there are a lot of very smart people with great ideas working outside of the bureaucracy. Too bad you don't/or won't notice.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:47 amPosting medical misinformation is promoting medical misinformation, spreading medical misinformation...at any time you'd wished, you could have said, "I think this is total BS, but here's an example of the medical misinformation getting peddled for clicks, eyeballs and dough"...but no, you posted with acclamations of agreement and support...tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:49 am"promoted"? To use your words, perhaps you should "get a room" with "knuckleheads" on the politics/covid thread? I promoted nothing. I simply shared available information that happens to be contrary to current medical establishment directives, obviously a threat to your personal judgement of how things ought to be. Don't forget... true science and skepticism go hand-in-hand.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:58 pmWell, yes, nothing you said is exactly false.tech37 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:01 pmThe "regular medical establishment" has failed everyone by not having therapeutics available to treat positive cases. Months ago, these should have been an available tool, along with vaccines, to fight this virus. Now with Omicron, there will be many more breakthrough cases and still no therapeutics. Go home, isolate, and hope for the best. If you're lucky, you'll qualify for monoclonal ab treatment. Total bullsh!t.Bearfan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:37 pm If not one person in your extended circle has not even had to go to the hospital for Covid then you must live in a pocket where the incidence of Covid is very low or you have an incredibly small circle(no attack intended).
An earlier poster seemed to criticize Biden for increased deaths despite having the vaccine. I can promise you that without the vaccines, boosters and preventative measures of social distancing, masks, etc the death toll would be dramatically higher.
When people discuss numbers of deaths or cases of hospitalized Covid they need to discuss whether that individual is boosted, vaccinated or not. Greater than 95% of those hospitalized with Covid in my hospital( I am a physician) are unvaccinated. And the small minority that are vaccinated, boosted and hospitalized are invariably elderly or with major medical commorbidities.
I am comfortable going indoors with a vaccine, boosted and perhaps masked. I know if I get Covid I will have a minor flu like experience or even be asymptomatic. My only fear is that if I am tested I will only suffer by having to stop travel, work, etc. and the only people I will really potentially harm are those unvaccinated. And it is the unvaccinated that are prolonging the Covid mutations. And the regular medical establishment is losing patience with these individuals. And wait until you or your loved ones are denied emergency lifesaving medical treatment because ICUs are filled with unvaccinated patients who did not want to be told that getting a vaccine was the prudent thing to do. The general population will start losing patience with the unvaccinated and there will be ugly incidents coming soon
But nearly everything you wrote is pure horse hockey.
You promoted phony, snake oil "therapeutics" and now you complain that the scientists, "the regular medical establishment" "failed everyone" by not finding a drug, developing a drug that would resolve a novel virus...how many drugs exist that cure any virus? How long did they take to develop??? You really think you could do better...or is snake oil what you want??? And low and behold, it looks like there actually may be a successful pill regimen available later this winter..."failed"
Yes, there are going to "breakthrough" cases...especially among those not boosted...and many more among those not vaccinated...
No, don't go home... do get vaccinated, get boosted and wear a mask in dense indoor situations...avoid the unvaccinated, yes. Vaccines work, and looks like we'll have a pill regimen very shortly.
Play ball.
Play ball.
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Probably from U of Maryland or U of Georgia.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:41 pmharvard must have a new administration. hope they've had experience in dealing with this over the last 2 years. i'm sure they have, even if they've been hired from outside.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:21 pm https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/ ... vid-spike/
These people can’t shut down sports fast enough.
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They are pouring into our country bringing roaches and spreading COVID….and leering at our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:43 pmYou’re racistTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:36 pmThey are dirty and carry disease and want to rape our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:26 pmI would be one of those people. I’m the only one who noticed that the cdc, fda, nih, and who are so stupid that they don’t know hordes of unvaccinated people flooding the border and spreading into the country is really bad in a pandemic. I was also the only one who noticed Joe Biden has dementia. Those organizations are completely unaware. That’s when I realized they are not good information sources.tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:11 pmWho's deciding what is "misinformation," you? Obviously anything I posted made it through the BigTech platform filters (and that alone certainly doesn't prove misinformation, either way). So it's really very subjective isn't it? Of course you're going to refer to anything outside of CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, etc. as misinformation... that's been your feverish mantra. Hint: there are a lot of very smart people with great ideas working outside of the bureaucracy. Too bad you don't/or won't notice.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:47 amPosting medical misinformation is promoting medical misinformation, spreading medical misinformation...at any time you'd wished, you could have said, "I think this is total BS, but here's an example of the medical misinformation getting peddled for clicks, eyeballs and dough"...but no, you posted with acclamations of agreement and support...tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:49 am"promoted"? To use your words, perhaps you should "get a room" with "knuckleheads" on the politics/covid thread? I promoted nothing. I simply shared available information that happens to be contrary to current medical establishment directives, obviously a threat to your personal judgement of how things ought to be. Don't forget... true science and skepticism go hand-in-hand.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:58 pmWell, yes, nothing you said is exactly false.tech37 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:01 pmThe "regular medical establishment" has failed everyone by not having therapeutics available to treat positive cases. Months ago, these should have been an available tool, along with vaccines, to fight this virus. Now with Omicron, there will be many more breakthrough cases and still no therapeutics. Go home, isolate, and hope for the best. If you're lucky, you'll qualify for monoclonal ab treatment. Total bullsh!t.Bearfan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:37 pm If not one person in your extended circle has not even had to go to the hospital for Covid then you must live in a pocket where the incidence of Covid is very low or you have an incredibly small circle(no attack intended).
An earlier poster seemed to criticize Biden for increased deaths despite having the vaccine. I can promise you that without the vaccines, boosters and preventative measures of social distancing, masks, etc the death toll would be dramatically higher.
When people discuss numbers of deaths or cases of hospitalized Covid they need to discuss whether that individual is boosted, vaccinated or not. Greater than 95% of those hospitalized with Covid in my hospital( I am a physician) are unvaccinated. And the small minority that are vaccinated, boosted and hospitalized are invariably elderly or with major medical commorbidities.
I am comfortable going indoors with a vaccine, boosted and perhaps masked. I know if I get Covid I will have a minor flu like experience or even be asymptomatic. My only fear is that if I am tested I will only suffer by having to stop travel, work, etc. and the only people I will really potentially harm are those unvaccinated. And it is the unvaccinated that are prolonging the Covid mutations. And the regular medical establishment is losing patience with these individuals. And wait until you or your loved ones are denied emergency lifesaving medical treatment because ICUs are filled with unvaccinated patients who did not want to be told that getting a vaccine was the prudent thing to do. The general population will start losing patience with the unvaccinated and there will be ugly incidents coming soon
But nearly everything you wrote is pure horse hockey.
You promoted phony, snake oil "therapeutics" and now you complain that the scientists, "the regular medical establishment" "failed everyone" by not finding a drug, developing a drug that would resolve a novel virus...how many drugs exist that cure any virus? How long did they take to develop??? You really think you could do better...or is snake oil what you want??? And low and behold, it looks like there actually may be a successful pill regimen available later this winter..."failed"
Yes, there are going to "breakthrough" cases...especially among those not boosted...and many more among those not vaccinated...
No, don't go home... do get vaccinated, get boosted and wear a mask in dense indoor situations...avoid the unvaccinated, yes. Vaccines work, and looks like we'll have a pill regimen very shortly.
Play ball.
Play ball.
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Scientifically, leering is okTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:09 pmThey are pouring into our country bringing roaches and spreading COVID….and leering at our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:43 pmYou’re racistTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:36 pmThey are dirty and carry disease and want to rape our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:26 pmI would be one of those people. I’m the only one who noticed that the cdc, fda, nih, and who are so stupid that they don’t know hordes of unvaccinated people flooding the border and spreading into the country is really bad in a pandemic. I was also the only one who noticed Joe Biden has dementia. Those organizations are completely unaware. That’s when I realized they are not good information sources.tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:11 pmWho's deciding what is "misinformation," you? Obviously anything I posted made it through the BigTech platform filters (and that alone certainly doesn't prove misinformation, either way). So it's really very subjective isn't it? Of course you're going to refer to anything outside of CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, etc. as misinformation... that's been your feverish mantra. Hint: there are a lot of very smart people with great ideas working outside of the bureaucracy. Too bad you don't/or won't notice.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:47 amPosting medical misinformation is promoting medical misinformation, spreading medical misinformation...at any time you'd wished, you could have said, "I think this is total BS, but here's an example of the medical misinformation getting peddled for clicks, eyeballs and dough"...but no, you posted with acclamations of agreement and support...tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:49 am"promoted"? To use your words, perhaps you should "get a room" with "knuckleheads" on the politics/covid thread? I promoted nothing. I simply shared available information that happens to be contrary to current medical establishment directives, obviously a threat to your personal judgement of how things ought to be. Don't forget... true science and skepticism go hand-in-hand.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:58 pmWell, yes, nothing you said is exactly false.tech37 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:01 pmThe "regular medical establishment" has failed everyone by not having therapeutics available to treat positive cases. Months ago, these should have been an available tool, along with vaccines, to fight this virus. Now with Omicron, there will be many more breakthrough cases and still no therapeutics. Go home, isolate, and hope for the best. If you're lucky, you'll qualify for monoclonal ab treatment. Total bullsh!t.Bearfan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:37 pm If not one person in your extended circle has not even had to go to the hospital for Covid then you must live in a pocket where the incidence of Covid is very low or you have an incredibly small circle(no attack intended).
An earlier poster seemed to criticize Biden for increased deaths despite having the vaccine. I can promise you that without the vaccines, boosters and preventative measures of social distancing, masks, etc the death toll would be dramatically higher.
When people discuss numbers of deaths or cases of hospitalized Covid they need to discuss whether that individual is boosted, vaccinated or not. Greater than 95% of those hospitalized with Covid in my hospital( I am a physician) are unvaccinated. And the small minority that are vaccinated, boosted and hospitalized are invariably elderly or with major medical commorbidities.
I am comfortable going indoors with a vaccine, boosted and perhaps masked. I know if I get Covid I will have a minor flu like experience or even be asymptomatic. My only fear is that if I am tested I will only suffer by having to stop travel, work, etc. and the only people I will really potentially harm are those unvaccinated. And it is the unvaccinated that are prolonging the Covid mutations. And the regular medical establishment is losing patience with these individuals. And wait until you or your loved ones are denied emergency lifesaving medical treatment because ICUs are filled with unvaccinated patients who did not want to be told that getting a vaccine was the prudent thing to do. The general population will start losing patience with the unvaccinated and there will be ugly incidents coming soon
But nearly everything you wrote is pure horse hockey.
You promoted phony, snake oil "therapeutics" and now you complain that the scientists, "the regular medical establishment" "failed everyone" by not finding a drug, developing a drug that would resolve a novel virus...how many drugs exist that cure any virus? How long did they take to develop??? You really think you could do better...or is snake oil what you want??? And low and behold, it looks like there actually may be a successful pill regimen available later this winter..."failed"
Yes, there are going to "breakthrough" cases...especially among those not boosted...and many more among those not vaccinated...
No, don't go home... do get vaccinated, get boosted and wear a mask in dense indoor situations...avoid the unvaccinated, yes. Vaccines work, and looks like we'll have a pill regimen very shortly.
Play ball.
Play ball.
Spreading Covid in a pandemic is unacceptable. But only I know that and the cdc,nih,fda are totally unaware.
Roaches are not dangerous as a pandemic.
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Re: School Closings
They carry disease.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:13 pmScientifically, leering is okTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:09 pmThey are pouring into our country bringing roaches and spreading COVID….and leering at our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:43 pmYou’re racistTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:36 pmThey are dirty and carry disease and want to rape our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:26 pmI would be one of those people. I’m the only one who noticed that the cdc, fda, nih, and who are so stupid that they don’t know hordes of unvaccinated people flooding the border and spreading into the country is really bad in a pandemic. I was also the only one who noticed Joe Biden has dementia. Those organizations are completely unaware. That’s when I realized they are not good information sources.tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:11 pmWho's deciding what is "misinformation," you? Obviously anything I posted made it through the BigTech platform filters (and that alone certainly doesn't prove misinformation, either way). So it's really very subjective isn't it? Of course you're going to refer to anything outside of CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, etc. as misinformation... that's been your feverish mantra. Hint: there are a lot of very smart people with great ideas working outside of the bureaucracy. Too bad you don't/or won't notice.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:47 amPosting medical misinformation is promoting medical misinformation, spreading medical misinformation...at any time you'd wished, you could have said, "I think this is total BS, but here's an example of the medical misinformation getting peddled for clicks, eyeballs and dough"...but no, you posted with acclamations of agreement and support...tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:49 am"promoted"? To use your words, perhaps you should "get a room" with "knuckleheads" on the politics/covid thread? I promoted nothing. I simply shared available information that happens to be contrary to current medical establishment directives, obviously a threat to your personal judgement of how things ought to be. Don't forget... true science and skepticism go hand-in-hand.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:58 pmWell, yes, nothing you said is exactly false.tech37 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:01 pmThe "regular medical establishment" has failed everyone by not having therapeutics available to treat positive cases. Months ago, these should have been an available tool, along with vaccines, to fight this virus. Now with Omicron, there will be many more breakthrough cases and still no therapeutics. Go home, isolate, and hope for the best. If you're lucky, you'll qualify for monoclonal ab treatment. Total bullsh!t.Bearfan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:37 pm If not one person in your extended circle has not even had to go to the hospital for Covid then you must live in a pocket where the incidence of Covid is very low or you have an incredibly small circle(no attack intended).
An earlier poster seemed to criticize Biden for increased deaths despite having the vaccine. I can promise you that without the vaccines, boosters and preventative measures of social distancing, masks, etc the death toll would be dramatically higher.
When people discuss numbers of deaths or cases of hospitalized Covid they need to discuss whether that individual is boosted, vaccinated or not. Greater than 95% of those hospitalized with Covid in my hospital( I am a physician) are unvaccinated. And the small minority that are vaccinated, boosted and hospitalized are invariably elderly or with major medical commorbidities.
I am comfortable going indoors with a vaccine, boosted and perhaps masked. I know if I get Covid I will have a minor flu like experience or even be asymptomatic. My only fear is that if I am tested I will only suffer by having to stop travel, work, etc. and the only people I will really potentially harm are those unvaccinated. And it is the unvaccinated that are prolonging the Covid mutations. And the regular medical establishment is losing patience with these individuals. And wait until you or your loved ones are denied emergency lifesaving medical treatment because ICUs are filled with unvaccinated patients who did not want to be told that getting a vaccine was the prudent thing to do. The general population will start losing patience with the unvaccinated and there will be ugly incidents coming soon
But nearly everything you wrote is pure horse hockey.
You promoted phony, snake oil "therapeutics" and now you complain that the scientists, "the regular medical establishment" "failed everyone" by not finding a drug, developing a drug that would resolve a novel virus...how many drugs exist that cure any virus? How long did they take to develop??? You really think you could do better...or is snake oil what you want??? And low and behold, it looks like there actually may be a successful pill regimen available later this winter..."failed"
Yes, there are going to "breakthrough" cases...especially among those not boosted...and many more among those not vaccinated...
No, don't go home... do get vaccinated, get boosted and wear a mask in dense indoor situations...avoid the unvaccinated, yes. Vaccines work, and looks like we'll have a pill regimen very shortly.
Play ball.
Play ball.
Spreading Covid in a pandemic is unacceptable. But only I know that and the cdc,nih,fda are totally unaware.
Roaches are not dangerous as a pandemic.
“I wish you would!”
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Re: School Closings
Is the cdc aware of this? Or are they scientifically deficient for the thousandth time ?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:40 pmThey carry disease.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:13 pmScientifically, leering is okTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:09 pmThey are pouring into our country bringing roaches and spreading COVID….and leering at our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:43 pmYou’re racistTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:36 pmThey are dirty and carry disease and want to rape our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:26 pmI would be one of those people. I’m the only one who noticed that the cdc, fda, nih, and who are so stupid that they don’t know hordes of unvaccinated people flooding the border and spreading into the country is really bad in a pandemic. I was also the only one who noticed Joe Biden has dementia. Those organizations are completely unaware. That’s when I realized they are not good information sources.tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:11 pmWho's deciding what is "misinformation," you? Obviously anything I posted made it through the BigTech platform filters (and that alone certainly doesn't prove misinformation, either way). So it's really very subjective isn't it? Of course you're going to refer to anything outside of CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, etc. as misinformation... that's been your feverish mantra. Hint: there are a lot of very smart people with great ideas working outside of the bureaucracy. Too bad you don't/or won't notice.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:47 amPosting medical misinformation is promoting medical misinformation, spreading medical misinformation...at any time you'd wished, you could have said, "I think this is total BS, but here's an example of the medical misinformation getting peddled for clicks, eyeballs and dough"...but no, you posted with acclamations of agreement and support...tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:49 am"promoted"? To use your words, perhaps you should "get a room" with "knuckleheads" on the politics/covid thread? I promoted nothing. I simply shared available information that happens to be contrary to current medical establishment directives, obviously a threat to your personal judgement of how things ought to be. Don't forget... true science and skepticism go hand-in-hand.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:58 pmWell, yes, nothing you said is exactly false.tech37 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:01 pmThe "regular medical establishment" has failed everyone by not having therapeutics available to treat positive cases. Months ago, these should have been an available tool, along with vaccines, to fight this virus. Now with Omicron, there will be many more breakthrough cases and still no therapeutics. Go home, isolate, and hope for the best. If you're lucky, you'll qualify for monoclonal ab treatment. Total bullsh!t.Bearfan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:37 pm If not one person in your extended circle has not even had to go to the hospital for Covid then you must live in a pocket where the incidence of Covid is very low or you have an incredibly small circle(no attack intended).
An earlier poster seemed to criticize Biden for increased deaths despite having the vaccine. I can promise you that without the vaccines, boosters and preventative measures of social distancing, masks, etc the death toll would be dramatically higher.
When people discuss numbers of deaths or cases of hospitalized Covid they need to discuss whether that individual is boosted, vaccinated or not. Greater than 95% of those hospitalized with Covid in my hospital( I am a physician) are unvaccinated. And the small minority that are vaccinated, boosted and hospitalized are invariably elderly or with major medical commorbidities.
I am comfortable going indoors with a vaccine, boosted and perhaps masked. I know if I get Covid I will have a minor flu like experience or even be asymptomatic. My only fear is that if I am tested I will only suffer by having to stop travel, work, etc. and the only people I will really potentially harm are those unvaccinated. And it is the unvaccinated that are prolonging the Covid mutations. And the regular medical establishment is losing patience with these individuals. And wait until you or your loved ones are denied emergency lifesaving medical treatment because ICUs are filled with unvaccinated patients who did not want to be told that getting a vaccine was the prudent thing to do. The general population will start losing patience with the unvaccinated and there will be ugly incidents coming soon
But nearly everything you wrote is pure horse hockey.
You promoted phony, snake oil "therapeutics" and now you complain that the scientists, "the regular medical establishment" "failed everyone" by not finding a drug, developing a drug that would resolve a novel virus...how many drugs exist that cure any virus? How long did they take to develop??? You really think you could do better...or is snake oil what you want??? And low and behold, it looks like there actually may be a successful pill regimen available later this winter..."failed"
Yes, there are going to "breakthrough" cases...especially among those not boosted...and many more among those not vaccinated...
No, don't go home... do get vaccinated, get boosted and wear a mask in dense indoor situations...avoid the unvaccinated, yes. Vaccines work, and looks like we'll have a pill regimen very shortly.
Play ball.
Play ball.
Spreading Covid in a pandemic is unacceptable. But only I know that and the cdc,nih,fda are totally unaware.
Roaches are not dangerous as a pandemic.
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Re: School Closings
Probably not. Can’t believe the CDC won’t shut down the border.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:43 pmIs the cdc aware of this? Or are they scientifically deficient for the thousandth time ?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:40 pmThey carry disease.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:13 pmScientifically, leering is okTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:09 pmThey are pouring into our country bringing roaches and spreading COVID….and leering at our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:43 pmYou’re racistTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:36 pmThey are dirty and carry disease and want to rape our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:26 pmI would be one of those people. I’m the only one who noticed that the cdc, fda, nih, and who are so stupid that they don’t know hordes of unvaccinated people flooding the border and spreading into the country is really bad in a pandemic. I was also the only one who noticed Joe Biden has dementia. Those organizations are completely unaware. That’s when I realized they are not good information sources.tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:11 pmWho's deciding what is "misinformation," you? Obviously anything I posted made it through the BigTech platform filters (and that alone certainly doesn't prove misinformation, either way). So it's really very subjective isn't it? Of course you're going to refer to anything outside of CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, etc. as misinformation... that's been your feverish mantra. Hint: there are a lot of very smart people with great ideas working outside of the bureaucracy. Too bad you don't/or won't notice.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:47 amPosting medical misinformation is promoting medical misinformation, spreading medical misinformation...at any time you'd wished, you could have said, "I think this is total BS, but here's an example of the medical misinformation getting peddled for clicks, eyeballs and dough"...but no, you posted with acclamations of agreement and support...tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:49 am"promoted"? To use your words, perhaps you should "get a room" with "knuckleheads" on the politics/covid thread? I promoted nothing. I simply shared available information that happens to be contrary to current medical establishment directives, obviously a threat to your personal judgement of how things ought to be. Don't forget... true science and skepticism go hand-in-hand.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:58 pmWell, yes, nothing you said is exactly false.tech37 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:01 pmThe "regular medical establishment" has failed everyone by not having therapeutics available to treat positive cases. Months ago, these should have been an available tool, along with vaccines, to fight this virus. Now with Omicron, there will be many more breakthrough cases and still no therapeutics. Go home, isolate, and hope for the best. If you're lucky, you'll qualify for monoclonal ab treatment. Total bullsh!t.Bearfan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:37 pm If not one person in your extended circle has not even had to go to the hospital for Covid then you must live in a pocket where the incidence of Covid is very low or you have an incredibly small circle(no attack intended).
An earlier poster seemed to criticize Biden for increased deaths despite having the vaccine. I can promise you that without the vaccines, boosters and preventative measures of social distancing, masks, etc the death toll would be dramatically higher.
When people discuss numbers of deaths or cases of hospitalized Covid they need to discuss whether that individual is boosted, vaccinated or not. Greater than 95% of those hospitalized with Covid in my hospital( I am a physician) are unvaccinated. And the small minority that are vaccinated, boosted and hospitalized are invariably elderly or with major medical commorbidities.
I am comfortable going indoors with a vaccine, boosted and perhaps masked. I know if I get Covid I will have a minor flu like experience or even be asymptomatic. My only fear is that if I am tested I will only suffer by having to stop travel, work, etc. and the only people I will really potentially harm are those unvaccinated. And it is the unvaccinated that are prolonging the Covid mutations. And the regular medical establishment is losing patience with these individuals. And wait until you or your loved ones are denied emergency lifesaving medical treatment because ICUs are filled with unvaccinated patients who did not want to be told that getting a vaccine was the prudent thing to do. The general population will start losing patience with the unvaccinated and there will be ugly incidents coming soon
But nearly everything you wrote is pure horse hockey.
You promoted phony, snake oil "therapeutics" and now you complain that the scientists, "the regular medical establishment" "failed everyone" by not finding a drug, developing a drug that would resolve a novel virus...how many drugs exist that cure any virus? How long did they take to develop??? You really think you could do better...or is snake oil what you want??? And low and behold, it looks like there actually may be a successful pill regimen available later this winter..."failed"
Yes, there are going to "breakthrough" cases...especially among those not boosted...and many more among those not vaccinated...
No, don't go home... do get vaccinated, get boosted and wear a mask in dense indoor situations...avoid the unvaccinated, yes. Vaccines work, and looks like we'll have a pill regimen very shortly.
Play ball.
Play ball.
Spreading Covid in a pandemic is unacceptable. But only I know that and the cdc,nih,fda are totally unaware.
Roaches are not dangerous as a pandemic.
“I wish you would!”
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Re: School Closings
It’s because they are stupid. They shut down church services but are unaware of the things really smart people like myself see. They are also completely unaware the leader of the free world has dementia. It’s important not to use them as a source of important information.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:44 pmProbably not. Can’t believe the CDC won’t shut down the border.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:43 pmIs the cdc aware of this? Or are they scientifically deficient for the thousandth time ?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:40 pmThey carry disease.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:13 pmScientifically, leering is okTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:09 pmThey are pouring into our country bringing roaches and spreading COVID….and leering at our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:43 pmYou’re racistTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:36 pmThey are dirty and carry disease and want to rape our women.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:26 pmI would be one of those people. I’m the only one who noticed that the cdc, fda, nih, and who are so stupid that they don’t know hordes of unvaccinated people flooding the border and spreading into the country is really bad in a pandemic. I was also the only one who noticed Joe Biden has dementia. Those organizations are completely unaware. That’s when I realized they are not good information sources.tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:11 pmWho's deciding what is "misinformation," you? Obviously anything I posted made it through the BigTech platform filters (and that alone certainly doesn't prove misinformation, either way). So it's really very subjective isn't it? Of course you're going to refer to anything outside of CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, etc. as misinformation... that's been your feverish mantra. Hint: there are a lot of very smart people with great ideas working outside of the bureaucracy. Too bad you don't/or won't notice.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:47 amPosting medical misinformation is promoting medical misinformation, spreading medical misinformation...at any time you'd wished, you could have said, "I think this is total BS, but here's an example of the medical misinformation getting peddled for clicks, eyeballs and dough"...but no, you posted with acclamations of agreement and support...tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:49 am"promoted"? To use your words, perhaps you should "get a room" with "knuckleheads" on the politics/covid thread? I promoted nothing. I simply shared available information that happens to be contrary to current medical establishment directives, obviously a threat to your personal judgement of how things ought to be. Don't forget... true science and skepticism go hand-in-hand.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:58 pmWell, yes, nothing you said is exactly false.tech37 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:01 pmThe "regular medical establishment" has failed everyone by not having therapeutics available to treat positive cases. Months ago, these should have been an available tool, along with vaccines, to fight this virus. Now with Omicron, there will be many more breakthrough cases and still no therapeutics. Go home, isolate, and hope for the best. If you're lucky, you'll qualify for monoclonal ab treatment. Total bullsh!t.Bearfan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:37 pm If not one person in your extended circle has not even had to go to the hospital for Covid then you must live in a pocket where the incidence of Covid is very low or you have an incredibly small circle(no attack intended).
An earlier poster seemed to criticize Biden for increased deaths despite having the vaccine. I can promise you that without the vaccines, boosters and preventative measures of social distancing, masks, etc the death toll would be dramatically higher.
When people discuss numbers of deaths or cases of hospitalized Covid they need to discuss whether that individual is boosted, vaccinated or not. Greater than 95% of those hospitalized with Covid in my hospital( I am a physician) are unvaccinated. And the small minority that are vaccinated, boosted and hospitalized are invariably elderly or with major medical commorbidities.
I am comfortable going indoors with a vaccine, boosted and perhaps masked. I know if I get Covid I will have a minor flu like experience or even be asymptomatic. My only fear is that if I am tested I will only suffer by having to stop travel, work, etc. and the only people I will really potentially harm are those unvaccinated. And it is the unvaccinated that are prolonging the Covid mutations. And the regular medical establishment is losing patience with these individuals. And wait until you or your loved ones are denied emergency lifesaving medical treatment because ICUs are filled with unvaccinated patients who did not want to be told that getting a vaccine was the prudent thing to do. The general population will start losing patience with the unvaccinated and there will be ugly incidents coming soon
But nearly everything you wrote is pure horse hockey.
You promoted phony, snake oil "therapeutics" and now you complain that the scientists, "the regular medical establishment" "failed everyone" by not finding a drug, developing a drug that would resolve a novel virus...how many drugs exist that cure any virus? How long did they take to develop??? You really think you could do better...or is snake oil what you want??? And low and behold, it looks like there actually may be a successful pill regimen available later this winter..."failed"
Yes, there are going to "breakthrough" cases...especially among those not boosted...and many more among those not vaccinated...
No, don't go home... do get vaccinated, get boosted and wear a mask in dense indoor situations...avoid the unvaccinated, yes. Vaccines work, and looks like we'll have a pill regimen very shortly.
Play ball.
Play ball.
Spreading Covid in a pandemic is unacceptable. But only I know that and the cdc,nih,fda are totally unaware.
Roaches are not dangerous as a pandemic.