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Brooklyn wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:46 pm Tea baggers and other demented reich wingers hate the idea of defunding criminal cops...
Brooklyn, let's ease up on the Nazi comparisons...
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Ok but please note that this was not specifically directed at anyone here. This unlike the many times I've been called the opposite extreme. Can't imagine why anyone would do so. ;)
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criminal police in the Twin Cities suppress evidence that could have been used against them in court:


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/minne ... ar-AAOc8Z1


Minnesota State Patrol deleted emails, texts after George Floyd protests, testimony reveals




Minnesota State Patrol officers purged emails and texts after protests over the death of George Floyd last year, according to a transcript of court testimony released Friday.

Maj. Joseph Dwyer said he and a "vast majority" of the Minnesota State Patrol deleted the messages during the summer of 2020, according to testimony from a hearing July 28 in an American Civil Liberties Union lawsuit alleging the agency used unnecessary and excessive force to target journalists who covered the protests.


Dwyer said supervisors did not order the purge; it is a "standard practice" for patrol members to delete texts and emails periodically or after a major event.

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"You just decided, shortly after the George Floyd protests, this would be a good time to clean out my inbox?" ACLU attorney Kevin Riach asked, according to the transcript.

Minnesota law requires the State Patrol to keep records of official activity and allows members to delete messages only under a schedule approved by a state records panel, said Don Gemberling, spokesperson for the nonprofit Minnesota Coalition on Government Information.

Gemberling said Dwyer’s testimony does not seem to be consistent with the statute "to make sure there's a record of why government does what it does."

"What they’ve done raises a whole lot of questions," he said.

Minnesota Department of Public Safety spokesperson Bruce Gordon told USA TODAY the agency "follows all state and agency data retention requirements." He said he was unable to comment further because of the litigation.

Lawsuit: Police in Minneapolis violated reporters' constitutional rights during protests

In a statement Sunday, the ACLU of Minnesota said, "The purge was neither accidental, automated, nor routine."

The ACLU alleged that no one reviewed the communications before they were deleted to determine whether they were relevant to the lawsuit.

"This destruction of public records makes it nearly impossible to track the State Patrol’s behavior, and the ACLU-MN questions whether that was by design," the statement said.

The testimony is part of a June 2020 class-action lawsuit that alleges the Minneapolis Police Department and the State Patrol violated journalists' constitutional rights by pepper spraying, firing rubber bullets, attacking and wrongfully arresting many who covered the protests last summer.

Jared Goyette, a freelancer for The Washington Post and The Guardian and lead plaintiff in the lawsuit, said police shot him in the face with less-lethal ballistic ammunition.

Many journalists reported tense interactions with law enforcement during nationwide protests against systemic racism and police brutality, and the lawsuit is one of several filed against law enforcement regarding use of force last summer.

'They do what they want': Minneapolis police injured protesters with rubber bullets. City has taken little action.

The email purge and the State Patrol's failure to investigate "show an alarming lack of accountability for misconduct and complete disrespect for the right to assemble and the right to a free press," Teresa Nelson, ACLU-MN legal director, said in the statement. "It is time for police and our community to stop turning a blind eye to police misconduct, and we hope this lawsuit helps stop this reprehensible behavior."

Minnesota state Rep. Cedrick Frazier called the deletion of the messages "very poor decision making considering the timing."

"At worst, it is the continuation of the type of behavior that breeds distrust," he tweeted Monday.

Minnesota state Rep. Carlos Mariani tweeted Monday that he has "lots of questions for our state patrol."





Thankfully, people recorded the criminal actions of the state police when they slashed tires at the peaceful protests. Clearly, it is the criminal cops who are the problem.
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Two national policing alliances call BS on republican lies about "Defunding the Police" charge made by Tim Scott. The real impasse is/was over police having nearly unqualified immunity. Had absolutely nothing to do with defunding the police, and the lying sack of sh*t that is Tim Scott knows this!
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Brooklyn wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:11 pm criminal police in the Twin Cities suppress evidence that could have been used against them in court:


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/minne ... ar-AAOc8Z1


Minnesota State Patrol deleted emails, texts after George Floyd protests, testimony reveals




Minnesota State Patrol officers purged emails and texts after protests over the death of George Floyd last year, according to a transcript of court testimony released Friday.

Maj. Joseph Dwyer said he and a "vast majority" of the Minnesota State Patrol deleted the messages during the summer of 2020, according to testimony from a hearing July 28 in an American Civil Liberties Union lawsuit alleging the agency used unnecessary and excessive force to target journalists who covered the protests.


Dwyer said supervisors did not order the purge; it is a "standard practice" for patrol members to delete texts and emails periodically or after a major event.

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"You just decided, shortly after the George Floyd protests, this would be a good time to clean out my inbox?" ACLU attorney Kevin Riach asked, according to the transcript.

Minnesota law requires the State Patrol to keep records of official activity and allows members to delete messages only under a schedule approved by a state records panel, said Don Gemberling, spokesperson for the nonprofit Minnesota Coalition on Government Information.

Gemberling said Dwyer’s testimony does not seem to be consistent with the statute "to make sure there's a record of why government does what it does."

"What they’ve done raises a whole lot of questions," he said.

Minnesota Department of Public Safety spokesperson Bruce Gordon told USA TODAY the agency "follows all state and agency data retention requirements." He said he was unable to comment further because of the litigation.

Lawsuit: Police in Minneapolis violated reporters' constitutional rights during protests

In a statement Sunday, the ACLU of Minnesota said, "The purge was neither accidental, automated, nor routine."

The ACLU alleged that no one reviewed the communications before they were deleted to determine whether they were relevant to the lawsuit.

"This destruction of public records makes it nearly impossible to track the State Patrol’s behavior, and the ACLU-MN questions whether that was by design," the statement said.

The testimony is part of a June 2020 class-action lawsuit that alleges the Minneapolis Police Department and the State Patrol violated journalists' constitutional rights by pepper spraying, firing rubber bullets, attacking and wrongfully arresting many who covered the protests last summer.

Jared Goyette, a freelancer for The Washington Post and The Guardian and lead plaintiff in the lawsuit, said police shot him in the face with less-lethal ballistic ammunition.

Many journalists reported tense interactions with law enforcement during nationwide protests against systemic racism and police brutality, and the lawsuit is one of several filed against law enforcement regarding use of force last summer.

'They do what they want': Minneapolis police injured protesters with rubber bullets. City has taken little action.

The email purge and the State Patrol's failure to investigate "show an alarming lack of accountability for misconduct and complete disrespect for the right to assemble and the right to a free press," Teresa Nelson, ACLU-MN legal director, said in the statement. "It is time for police and our community to stop turning a blind eye to police misconduct, and we hope this lawsuit helps stop this reprehensible behavior."

Minnesota state Rep. Cedrick Frazier called the deletion of the messages "very poor decision making considering the timing."

"At worst, it is the continuation of the type of behavior that breeds distrust," he tweeted Monday.

Minnesota state Rep. Carlos Mariani tweeted Monday that he has "lots of questions for our state patrol."





Thankfully, people recorded the criminal actions of the state police when they slashed tires at the peaceful protests. Clearly, it is the criminal cops who are the problem.
Everyone archives it’s bulls**t that any governmental org would not archive any email at all.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:25 am
Everyone archives it’s bulls**t that any governmental org would not archive any email at all.

For years it has been the corrupt Repukeblicon criminals in the legislature that have stifled efforts to impose police reform. If we could only get that type of legal reform we would not have criminals like Chauvin menacing the streets thereby saving taxpayers millions of dollars. Same thing all over the country.
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Another innocent black man released from prison for a crime he did not commit:



After 15 years in prison, man cleared in deaths of 5 kids


PONTIAC, Mich. (AP) — Murder charges were dismissed Thursday against a man who spent 15 years in prison for the fire-related deaths of five children in suburban Detroit, the climax of an investigation that found misconduct by police and prosecutors.

Juwan Deering will not face a second trial, Oakland County prosecutor Karen McDonald said. A judge granted her request to close the case a week after Deering’s convictions and life sentences were thrown out at her urging.

Wearing a three-piece suit, Deering, 50, walked into court shackled at the waist but departed as a free man with no restraints.

“It’s been a hard uphill battle. ... The sun couldn’t shine on not a brighter day. This is the brightest for me,” Deering said moments later as family members clung to him on a cloudless morning and other Detroit-area men exonerated of crimes stood nearby.


https://apnews.com/article/fires-trials ... fe054fb2a8



How many thousands or possibly tens of thousands suffered the same fate he endured without getting any justice? By any chance is there anyone here who still feels there is no racism in the USA?
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More than 17,000 deaths caused by police have been misclassified since 1980


https://www.npr.org/2021/10/01/10419898 ... classified


Deaths involving police have been greatly undercounted in the United States, and African American people die in such encounters at 3.5 times the rate of whites, according to a new analysis by public health researchers.

In an article published Thursday in the medical journal The Lancet, researchers found that deaths from police violence between 1980 and 2018 were misclassified by 55.5% in the U.S. National Vital Statistics System, which tracks information from death certificates.

"For most causes of death, the death certificate filled out by a physician is sort of the gold standard," says Chris Murray of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington, who is one of the study's authors. But he says that in this area, the certificates seem to fall short. "There is a pretty systematic underrecording of police violence deaths. "


That realization isn't entirely new. After the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., news organizations started to keep their own tallies of police-related deaths, which turned out to be higher than the government's numbers.

What Murray and his co-authors have done, though, is measure the discrepancy between independent tallies and the government data, and project it back in time.

"We've used those relationships of what fraction get underreported to go back and infer, for example, in the 1980s, what was the likely number of police violence deaths," Murray says.

The researchers based their inferences on numbers from three open-source databases: Fatal Encounters, Mapping Police Violence and The Guardian's The Counted, which they compared with the data from the death certificates.

They calculate that the death certificates misclassified the cause of death on more than 17,000 such deaths since 1980.

"If it's legit, it's pretty cool how they can take existing data from a short time frame and work backwards," says Justin Nix, associate professor of criminology at the University of Nebraska.

But as a criminologist who studies shootings by police, Nix has reservations about the underlying data.

"My concerns with this paper are the same as many that use these crowd-sourced databases," he says. He has documented cases where the databases count, for example, domestic violence by off-duty officers as police killings.

"I'm not saying we don't need to track that in these sorts of databases, but I'm just saying that all police killings are not created equally," he says.

"I think there's definitely issues around exactly the criteria used," says the IHME's Murray. "I think that's an important question, given that we're looking at multiple sources. [But] I don't think it's really influencing the time-trend we're seeing. In other words, the numbers are going up, regardless."

The study shows the death rate in these encounters dropping in the 1980s, then generally rising again since about 2000.

The article also highlights the disparity in the mortality rate for African-Americans, which it says is 3.5 times higher than that of whites.

The article suggests the disparity is caused by "systemic racism in policing," but it doesn't specify how that happens. Specifically, it doesn't address whether police are more likely to use lethal force against African-Americans or whether nonpolicing factors lead African-Americans to have more encounters with police.

Murray says this analysis doesn't answer that.

"I don't think from a scientific point of view, we have enough information here to parse out how much of this is, you know, basic differences in where people live, what sort of disadvantage they have, versus the actual specific actions of the police," he says.

But as a public health expert, Murray says the more we know about these deaths, the easier it will be to find policy solutions.

"It's the old saw: You manage what you measure. And so we've got to do a better job of tracking in what's actually happening," he says.



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Brooklyn wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:16 am More than 17,000 deaths caused by police have been misclassified since 1980


https://www.npr.org/2021/10/01/10419898 ... classified


Deaths involving police have been greatly undercounted in the United States, and African American people die in such encounters at 3.5 times the rate of whites, according to a new analysis by public health researchers.

In an article published Thursday in the medical journal The Lancet, researchers found that deaths from police violence between 1980 and 2018 were misclassified by 55.5% in the U.S. National Vital Statistics System, which tracks information from death certificates.

"For most causes of death, the death certificate filled out by a physician is sort of the gold standard," says Chris Murray of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington, who is one of the study's authors. But he says that in this area, the certificates seem to fall short. "There is a pretty systematic underrecording of police violence deaths. "


That realization isn't entirely new. After the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., news organizations started to keep their own tallies of police-related deaths, which turned out to be higher than the government's numbers.

What Murray and his co-authors have done, though, is measure the discrepancy between independent tallies and the government data, and project it back in time.

"We've used those relationships of what fraction get underreported to go back and infer, for example, in the 1980s, what was the likely number of police violence deaths," Murray says.

The researchers based their inferences on numbers from three open-source databases: Fatal Encounters, Mapping Police Violence and The Guardian's The Counted, which they compared with the data from the death certificates.

They calculate that the death certificates misclassified the cause of death on more than 17,000 such deaths since 1980.

"If it's legit, it's pretty cool how they can take existing data from a short time frame and work backwards," says Justin Nix, associate professor of criminology at the University of Nebraska.

But as a criminologist who studies shootings by police, Nix has reservations about the underlying data.

"My concerns with this paper are the same as many that use these crowd-sourced databases," he says. He has documented cases where the databases count, for example, domestic violence by off-duty officers as police killings.

"I'm not saying we don't need to track that in these sorts of databases, but I'm just saying that all police killings are not created equally," he says.

"I think there's definitely issues around exactly the criteria used," says the IHME's Murray. "I think that's an important question, given that we're looking at multiple sources. [But] I don't think it's really influencing the time-trend we're seeing. In other words, the numbers are going up, regardless."

The study shows the death rate in these encounters dropping in the 1980s, then generally rising again since about 2000.

The article also highlights the disparity in the mortality rate for African-Americans, which it says is 3.5 times higher than that of whites.

The article suggests the disparity is caused by "systemic racism in policing," but it doesn't specify how that happens. Specifically, it doesn't address whether police are more likely to use lethal force against African-Americans or whether nonpolicing factors lead African-Americans to have more encounters with police.

Murray says this analysis doesn't answer that.

"I don't think from a scientific point of view, we have enough information here to parse out how much of this is, you know, basic differences in where people live, what sort of disadvantage they have, versus the actual specific actions of the police," he says.

But as a public health expert, Murray says the more we know about these deaths, the easier it will be to find policy solutions.

"It's the old saw: You manage what you measure. And so we've got to do a better job of tracking in what's actually happening," he says.



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Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:09 pm
I gave a few bucks to innocence project yesterday when I ran over to a local festival late in the day. My part


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Body cam footage shows MPD officers talking about 'hunting' protesters

https://www.fox9.com/news/body-cam-foot ... protesters


Body camera footage captured Minneapolis police officers discussing a change in approach on the fifth night of unrest following the death of George Floyd.

The video, which comes from the attorney of a man who was acquitted of firing at police during the riots, documents the moments leading up to his own exchange with officers.

The footage shows officers talking about "hunting" protesters, slashing tires, laughing and more. The officers were assigned to riot control on the fifth night of unrest following the death of George Floyd.

In the video, one of the officers can be heard saying, "let them have it, boys. Let them have it."

The new batch of body camera footage released Tuesday is part of the criminal case against Jaleel Stallings, who shot at officers after being hit with rubber bullets. Stallings was acquitted of all charges a month ago, arguing he acted in self-defense, unaware that the unmarked van he returned fire with were police officers.

Stallings’ attorney, Eric Rice, released the extended body camera footage of the nearly two hours leading up to that moment, saying it shows how police were targeting civilians that night.

Also in the video, Officer Bittell can be heard saying, "alright, we’re rolling down Lake Street, the first f**rs we see, we’re just hammering them with 40s."

In much of the footage, officers are seen driving down largely empty streets, firing non-lethal rounds at people out past curfew.

Minutes before encountering Stallings, they fired on people outside a gas station - only to find it was the owners outside trying to protect their store.

The Minneapolis Police Department responded to the latest batch of footage, saying there is an active and ongoing internal investigation into what’s seen and heard.

Chief Arradondo has previously defended his officers, saying the videos need to be viewed in context as the officers were on the fifth night of rioting.





No surprise that it was the criminal cops who were engaging in racist violence. None of this would have happened if they had only obeyed the law.
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Like they did not have cause to be 'hunting' criminals.....ya know kinda like these idiots that took all of two seconds to search. I'm sure if you lived above one of these places, you'd then be complaining the police weren't there to stop the. You can put your binky back in now....everything is alright brooksie poopsy-doo. ;)

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local ... 83733.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... ms-morgan/

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1081126/ra ... -arrested/
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^save the poopsie-doo for your own dinner, sweetheart




police slash tires: https://www.google.com/search?q=police+ ... e&ie=UTF-8


police agent provocateurs in rallies: https://www.google.com/search?q=police+ ... e&ie=UTF-8
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The culture war continues. Led by unintentionally ironic angry old white men.

Just a headline I read daily. Here and elsewhere.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:51 am The culture war continues. Led by unintentionally ironic angry old white men.

Just a headline I read daily. Here and elsewhere.
The Virginia victory seems like a referendum against multiculturalism. Unintentionally ironic angry old white men aren’t having any part of it. CRT was the message being drilled. Monuments to traitors are preferred.
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ardilla secreta wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:52 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:51 am The culture war continues. Led by unintentionally ironic angry old white men.

Just a headline I read daily. Here and elsewhere.
The Virginia victory seems like a referendum against multiculturalism. Unintentionally ironic angry old white men aren’t having any part of it. CRT was the message being drilled. Monuments to traitors are preferred.
You may be taking it to another level...the death kiss was when he told parents they had no say in what is taught in schools (govt intervening in personal lives). This comment aligns with the vaccine mandate issue (govt intervening in personal lives). Sure CRT played a part..... but that too, has an element of (govt intervening in our children's lives) and they flat out lied about it going on behind the scenes.

Of course the message will be....r's are racists, it's a crucial part of the array to slander your opposition.
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ardilla secreta wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:52 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:51 am The culture war continues. Led by unintentionally ironic angry old white men.

Just a headline I read daily. Here and elsewhere.
The Virginia victory seems like a referendum against multiculturalism. Unintentionally ironic angry old white men aren’t having any part of it. CRT was the message being drilled. Monuments to traitors are preferred.



Could you be any less informed? The new lieutenant governor of Virginia (R) is black. That was an independent race. Want to know the race of the new attorney general (R)? Latino. He beat a white Democrat.

So if the referendum is against multiculturalism, yet a black woman and a Cuban American win, what is your definition of multiculturalism please? 🤡
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