Ivy League 2022

[Farfromgeneva]

From a Princeton alum who went to game but missed second half (he had a son just graduate from Bart and another there now for context)

The score was 6-6 at halftime. Painfully boring offenses. So I headed back to the beer tent, then took off. Didn't see the last quarter. Honestly, D3/ Hobart interests me more than the bloated Ivy League

6 yards and a cloud of dust is football!

As is a beer tent.

Used to be 3 yards.

Of beer or on the field?

Our guys are about 5 and 7.5ypc

https://hwsathletics.com/sports/footbal ... well/16144

https://hwsathletics.com/sports/footbal ... -jr-/16157

Have a buddy who’s some are at Holy Cross and Colgate and made the drive from Bergen Co to Ithaca last weekend but he said he didn’t take in any of the sights just in and out.

[faircornell]

I don't know if anyone cares, but there was a bit of a social media tweet storm over the weekend regarding the Harvard vs Princeton OT football game.

In brief, Harvard scored to win the game in a series of 2 point conversion plays. The play was called back in error, and eventually, Princeton won 18-16. The Ivy League acknowledged the error, but still gave Princeton the win.

Many Ivy fans likely recall the 1940 "Fifth Down Game" between Cornell and Dartmouth. Cornell won on an officiating error, and forfeited the game to Dartmouth. The forfeit eliminated Cornell's real hopes of a NC in football that year.

We'll see this week what the Princeton administration does. The Cornell example was an effort in sportsmanship that has been remembered. It would credit Princeton to abide by this unique tradition.

Well, the Harvard AD has graciously conceded the game. Very graciously. Princeton is silent. It's a shameful day for Ivy Sports and HYP Football. I guess that the League is happy with developing technocrats as opposed to principled leaders.

I guess TLD's tag line is correct.

[MDlaxfan76]

I don't know if anyone cares, but there was a bit of a social media tweet storm over the weekend regarding the Harvard vs Princeton OT football game.

In brief, Harvard scored to win the game in a series of 2 point conversion plays. The play was called back in error, and eventually, Princeton won 18-16. The Ivy League acknowledged the error, but still gave Princeton the win.

Many Ivy fans likely recall the 1940 "Fifth Down Game" between Cornell and Dartmouth. Cornell won on an officiating error, and forfeited the game to Dartmouth. The forfeit eliminated Cornell's real hopes of a NC in football that year.

We'll see this week what the Princeton administration does. The Cornell example was an effort in sportsmanship that has been remembered. It would credit Princeton to abide by this unique tradition.

Well, the Harvard AD has graciously conceded the game. Very graciously. Princeton is silent. It's a shameful day for Ivy Sports and HYP Football. I guess that the League is happy with developing technocrats as opposed to principled leaders.

I guess TLD's tag line is correct.

It's indeed a pity if PU doesn't take this opportunity to make a principled decision.

The opportunity is there. They don't happen often.

[DocBarrister]

I don't know if anyone cares, but there was a bit of a social media tweet storm over the weekend regarding the Harvard vs Princeton OT football game.

In brief, Harvard scored to win the game in a series of 2 point conversion plays. The play was called back in error, and eventually, Princeton won 18-16. The Ivy League acknowledged the error, but still gave Princeton the win.

Many Ivy fans likely recall the 1940 "Fifth Down Game" between Cornell and Dartmouth. Cornell won on an officiating error, and forfeited the game to Dartmouth. The forfeit eliminated Cornell's real hopes of a NC in football that year.

We'll see this week what the Princeton administration does. The Cornell example was an effort in sportsmanship that has been remembered. It would credit Princeton to abide by this unique tradition.

Well, the Harvard AD has graciously conceded the game. Very graciously. Princeton is silent. It's a shameful day for Ivy Sports and HYP Football. I guess that the League is happy with developing technocrats as opposed to principled leaders.

I guess TLD's tag line is correct.

I admire what Cornell did those many decades ago. They did the right thing, even if it meant surrendering a national championship.

Having said that, if there are any SEC football fans reading this thread, they are laughing uncontrollably on the floor right now, spilling their Bud Light all over their new Confederate flag area rug and slapping the derrière of their cousin-wife.

DocBarrister

[faircornell]

I don't know if anyone cares, but there was a bit of a social media tweet storm over the weekend regarding the Harvard vs Princeton OT football game.

In brief, Harvard scored to win the game in a series of 2 point conversion plays. The play was called back in error, and eventually, Princeton won 18-16. The Ivy League acknowledged the error, but still gave Princeton the win.

Many Ivy fans likely recall the 1940 "Fifth Down Game" between Cornell and Dartmouth. Cornell won on an officiating error, and forfeited the game to Dartmouth. The forfeit eliminated Cornell's real hopes of a NC in football that year.

We'll see this week what the Princeton administration does. The Cornell example was an effort in sportsmanship that has been remembered. It would credit Princeton to abide by this unique tradition.

Well, the Harvard AD has graciously conceded the game. Very graciously. Princeton is silent. It's a shameful day for Ivy Sports and HYP Football. I guess that the League is happy with developing technocrats as opposed to principled leaders.

I guess TLD's tag line is correct.

It's indeed a pity if PU doesn't take this opportunity to make a principled decision.

The opportunity is there. They don't happen often.

The Cornell President at the time, Edmund Day, was a Dartmouth grad (BA and MA), and when the offer of a forfeit was made, he was not sure what the Dartmouth response would be. He is recorded as thinking that Dartmouth might have declined the gesture. However, Cornell conceded, leaving the decision to Dartmouth (which was the correct decision). As another sign of the times, the Head Referee wrote a letter of apology to the Dartmouth team. Even if the Ivy League and Harvard are willing to let the result stand under NCAA rules, the league could make a finding that gives the win to Harvard for Ivy Title purposes.

[Laxbuck]

I don't know if anyone cares, but there was a bit of a social media tweet storm over the weekend regarding the Harvard vs Princeton OT football game.

In brief, Harvard scored to win the game in a series of 2 point conversion plays. The play was called back in error, and eventually, Princeton won 18-16. The Ivy League acknowledged the error, but still gave Princeton the win.

Many Ivy fans likely recall the 1940 "Fifth Down Game" between Cornell and Dartmouth. Cornell won on an officiating error, and forfeited the game to Dartmouth. The forfeit eliminated Cornell's real hopes of a NC in football that year.

We'll see this week what the Princeton administration does. The Cornell example was an effort in sportsmanship that has been remembered. It would credit Princeton to abide by this unique tradition.

Well, the Harvard AD has graciously conceded the game. Very graciously. Princeton is silent. It's a shameful day for Ivy Sports and HYP Football. I guess that the League is happy with developing technocrats as opposed to principled leaders.

I guess TLD's tag line is correct.

I admire what Cornell did those many decades ago. They did the right thing, even if it meant surrendering a national championship.

Having said that, if there are any SEC football fans reading this thread, they are laughing uncontrollably on the floor right now, spilling their Bud Light all over their new Confederate flag area rug and slapping the derrière of their cousin-wife.

DocBarrister

So you are saying SEC fans are racists, misogynists and practice incest?

[Farfromgeneva]

I don't know if anyone cares, but there was a bit of a social media tweet storm over the weekend regarding the Harvard vs Princeton OT football game.

In brief, Harvard scored to win the game in a series of 2 point conversion plays. The play was called back in error, and eventually, Princeton won 18-16. The Ivy League acknowledged the error, but still gave Princeton the win.

Many Ivy fans likely recall the 1940 "Fifth Down Game" between Cornell and Dartmouth. Cornell won on an officiating error, and forfeited the game to Dartmouth. The forfeit eliminated Cornell's real hopes of a NC in football that year.

We'll see this week what the Princeton administration does. The Cornell example was an effort in sportsmanship that has been remembered. It would credit Princeton to abide by this unique tradition.

Well, the Harvard AD has graciously conceded the game. Very graciously. Princeton is silent. It's a shameful day for Ivy Sports and HYP Football. I guess that the League is happy with developing technocrats as opposed to principled leaders.

I guess TLD's tag line is correct.

I admire what Cornell did those many decades ago. They did the right thing, even if it meant surrendering a national championship.

Having said that, if there are any SEC football fans reading this thread, they are laughing uncontrollably on the floor right now, spilling their Bud Light all over their new Confederate flag area rug and slapping the derrière of their cousin-wife.

DocBarrister

So you are saying SEC fans are racists, misogynists and practice incest?

Of course he is.

[Can Opener]

I don't think Princeton should concede for the following reason: this was a double screw-up by the refs. First, they erred by not granting Princeton the TO which their coach had properly called in time. So if the game had ended on the Harvard score, you would probably have heard Princeton fans calling for an apology from the refs and a concession from Harvard. It is true that the refs screwed up a second time by reviewing an unreviewable call. That should not have happened. On balance, the substance of the matter is that Princeton did call the TO properly and therefore "deserve" the win.

[faircornell]

I don't think Princeton should concede for the following reason: this was a double screw-up by the refs. First, they erred by not granting Princeton the TO which their coach had properly called in time. So if the game had ended on the Harvard score, you would probably have heard Princeton fans calling for an apology from the refs and a concession from Harvard. It is true that the refs screwed up a second time by reviewing an unreviewable call. That should not have happened. On balance, the substance of the matter is that Princeton did call the TO properly and therefore "deserve" the win.

Thanks, Can Opener. All valid points. Were I to debate them, I'd note that we'll never know if the timeout had, in fact, been called, if Harvard might have converted after it. Perhaps the most just action would be to call this game a tie.

[Farfromgeneva]

I don't think Princeton should concede for the following reason: this was a double screw-up by the refs. First, they erred by not granting Princeton the TO which their coach had properly called in time. So if the game had ended on the Harvard score, you would probably have heard Princeton fans calling for an apology from the refs and a concession from Harvard. It is true that the refs screwed up a second time by reviewing an unreviewable call. That should not have happened. On balance, the substance of the matter is that Princeton did call the TO properly and therefore "deserve" the win.

Thanks, Can Opener. All valid points. Were I to debate them, I'd note that we'll never know if the timeout had, in fact, been called, if Harvard might have converted after it. Perhaps the most just action would be to call this game a tie.

Tie??? You like kissing your sister on the lips as well?

Play to the death! Old school style, then shake hands stepping over the lifeless bodies afterwards.

[DocBarrister]

I don't think Princeton should concede for the following reason: this was a double screw-up by the refs. First, they erred by not granting Princeton the TO which their coach had properly called in time. So if the game had ended on the Harvard score, you would probably have heard Princeton fans calling for an apology from the refs and a concession from Harvard. It is true that the refs screwed up a second time by reviewing an unreviewable call. That should not have happened. On balance, the substance of the matter is that Princeton did call the TO properly and therefore "deserve" the win.

Thanks, Can Opener. All valid points. Were I to debate them, I'd note that we'll never know if the timeout had, in fact, been called, if Harvard might have converted after it. Perhaps the most just action would be to call this game a tie.

Tie??? You like kissing your sister on the lips as well?

Play to the death! Old school style, then shake hands stepping over the lifeless bodies afterwards.

Kinda like “The Gamesters of Triskelion” from the original Star Trek series?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gam ... Triskelion

DocBarrister

[Farfromgeneva]

I don't think Princeton should concede for the following reason: this was a double screw-up by the refs. First, they erred by not granting Princeton the TO which their coach had properly called in time. So if the game had ended on the Harvard score, you would probably have heard Princeton fans calling for an apology from the refs and a concession from Harvard. It is true that the refs screwed up a second time by reviewing an unreviewable call. That should not have happened. On balance, the substance of the matter is that Princeton did call the TO properly and therefore "deserve" the win.

Thanks, Can Opener. All valid points. Were I to debate them, I'd note that we'll never know if the timeout had, in fact, been called, if Harvard might have converted after it. Perhaps the most just action would be to call this game a tie.

Tie??? You like kissing your sister on the lips as well?

Play to the death! Old school style, then shake hands stepping over the lifeless bodies afterwards.

Kinda like “The Gamesters of Triskelion” from the original Star Trek series?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gam ... Triskelion

DocBarrister

We have two in agreement now. I’m not a Star Trek guy guy will take that crowd too

[AreaLax]

Princeton Men's Lacrosse • 2022 Schedule

Feb. 19 MONMOUTH
Feb. 22 BINGHAMTON
Feb. 26 at Maryland
Mar. 5 at Georgetown
Mar. 12 RUTGERS
Mar. 19 PENN
Mar. 26 at Yale
Apr. 2 at Brown
Apr. 5 MARIST
Apr. 9 BOSTON UNIVERSITY
Apr. 16 DARTMOUTH
Apr. 23 at Harvard
Apr. 30 CORNELL

[Farfromgeneva]

Binghamton? Are they recruiting section 4 now?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Binghamton? Are they recruiting section 4 now?

Taking a year off disrupted scheduling. Not a lot of options to get a Tuesday game on that early in the season. Binghamton probably recruiting New Jersey. Maryland at the end of 3 games in 8 days is not easy.

[FannOLax]

It looks like the Ivy schedule Princeton would have played in 2020; so it's probably a safe bet that the IL conference schedule is consistent with previous years. Maryland, Georgetown and Rutgers provide a nice run-in to Ivy play, although Hop and UVA aren't scheduled.

[Typical Lax Dad]

It looks like the Ivy schedule Princeton would have played in 2020; so it's probably a safe bet that the IL conference schedule is consistent with previous years. Maryland, Georgetown and Rutgers provide a nice run-in to Ivy play, although Hop and UVA aren't scheduled.

Ivy League schedule is always the same. Home/Away reverses each year. The 2022 schedule is the normal “even year” year schedule.

[PATalk]

Curious if Penn playing a game last year cost it's players a year of eligibility?

[Henpecked]

Curious if Penn playing a game last year cost it's players a year of eligibility?

I doubt it. Seems like some of the Ivy League teams make up the rules as they go along.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Curious if Penn playing a game last year cost it's players a year of eligibility?

I doubt it. Seems like some of the Ivy League teams make up the rules as they go along.

Playing the game didn’t jeopardize eligibility. I believe a one time 5th year was granted to all ivy league spring athletes. Seemed to level set schools for one year with those in which seniors/juniors had withdrawn to preserve 4 years of eligibility. This benefitted Penn, Cornell and Brown to the extent seniors were enrolled last Spring.