Facegram & Instabook

[a fan]

But your posting TikTok stuff is OK?

I can't believe that any of us geezers are on TikTok.

[dislaxxic]

Thanks GAWD Sleepy Joe and his whole admin is in there running things...ALL of whom are way, WAY better than the incompetent, borderline criminal clown car that "ran" things (into the ground) for the last four years...

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[youthathletics]

But your posting TikTok stuff is OK?

I can't believe that any of us geezers are on TikTok.

Ohhh....you just wait until your kid is a bit older, you'll be ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA, I'll even bet you a steak dinner on it. Knowing you though....you'll have the wife do it, just so you can say noppity-nope, not me, now pay up.

[MDlaxfan76]

But your posting TikTok stuff is OK?

I can't believe that any of us geezers are on TikTok.

sent to me by my son...thought it was actually funny...

but no, tech, I don't recall it as juvenile, stupid...

This is just dumb

[tech37]

But your posting TikTok stuff is OK?

I can't believe that any of us geezers are on TikTok.

sent to me by my son...thought it was actually funny...

but no, tech, I don't recall it as juvenile, stupid...

This is just dumb

Fine... just keeping you honest mdlax

[a fan]

But your posting TikTok stuff is OK?

I can't believe that any of us geezers are on TikTok.

Ohhh....you just wait until your kid is a bit older, you'll be ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA, I'll even bet you a steak dinner on it. Knowing you though....you'll have the wife do it, just so you can say noppity-nope, not me, now pay up.

Oh, I'm quite confident I'll be owing you a steak on this count. One of my favorite daughter stories is that she brags to everyone that Frozen is my favorite movie. And by favorite movie, she means "I made my dad watch this with me, oh, about 2,000 times".

[MDlaxfan76]

But your posting TikTok stuff is OK?

I can't believe that any of us geezers are on TikTok.

sent to me by my son...thought it was actually funny...

but no, tech, I don't recall it as juvenile, stupid...

This is just dumb

Fine... just keeping you honest mdlax

Honest?

I'm not critiquing someone for ever watching youtube or Instagram or Twitter, etc...but I am critiquing reposting something as dumb, and intentionally dishonest, as this one. Yeah, I know it was sorta intended as humor, but with a dark edge. I also checked out the thread below the one youth linked, and it was quite the pile of BS below it...dumb, juvenile, angry jerks

The way these companies' algorithms work is that they track what we react to, and feed us more of the same, taking us deeper and deeper down various affirming ratholes. I explained this to folks nearly a decade ago on LP, and folks didn't believe me...

But that doesn't mean that there can't be humorous and entertaining content enjoyed. Just need to be super careful to not react to the angry, slanted, dishonest stuff or else that's all you'll see. That's what I'm warning against.

As I don't think youth is dumb, racist, juvenile, etc, etc I'm just flagging that this post and that thread will just feed him more and more crappola every time he touches it. Poison.

[cradleandshoot]

idiocy prevails.

Anyone see the town hall last night?

Did Jill have to "rescue" ole Joe?
Or did Joe basically crush it?

One can quibble with his views till the cows come home, but he's definitely in command of his faculties, understands the data and the logic of his views, and though he's never gonna win any articulation prizes, he's pretty darn clear about what he's thinking.

This other stuff is just silly.
Demeans the attacker.

And some of us can quibble about the state of his cognitive abilities. He ain't the politician he was 10 years ago. I must always see only the clips where he seems to be dazed and confused. What is up with his moronic tendency to whisper all the time? If it is suppose to be clever it only makes him look foolish.

Don't watch "clips"...watch him on extended questions and answers or full speech...you'll get a very different impression. I find it reassuring, given his age. Especially a session like last night, where he has to actually think and respond, recall key facts and logic, on a whole lot of topics, while staying relaxed and in command.

But of course he's not as young as 10 years ago. Who is?!

The man creeps me out. When your POTUS you don't get the luxury of running hot and cold. Sharp as a tack one moment and dumb as a box of rocks the next. The fact that is not disconcerting to you does not surprise me.

[seacoaster]

Facebook and the lead up to 1/6/2021:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/tech ... ation.html

"Sixteen months before last November’s presidential election, a researcher at Facebook described an alarming development. She was getting content about the conspiracy theory QAnon within a week of opening an experimental account, she wrote in an internal report.

On Nov. 5, two days after the election, another Facebook employee posted a message alerting colleagues that comments with “combustible election misinformation” were visible below many posts.

Four days after that, a company data scientist wrote in a note to his co-workers that 10 percent of all U.S. views of political material — a startlingly high figure — were of posts that alleged the vote was fraudulent.

In each case, Facebook’s employees sounded an alarm about misinformation and inflammatory content on the platform and urged action — but the company failed or struggled to address the issues. The internal dispatches were among a set of Facebook documents obtained by The New York Times that give new insight into what happened inside the social network before and after the November election, when the company was caught flat-footed as users weaponized its platform to spread lies about the vote.

From the Document: Content Policy

WHAT HAPPENED

1. From Wednesday through Saturday there was a lot of content circulating which implied fraud in the election, at around 10% of all civic content and 1-2% of all US VPVs. There was also a fringe of incitement to violence.

2. There were dozens of employees monitoring this, and FB launched ~15 measures prior to the election, and another ~15 in the days afterwards. Most of the measures made existings processes more aggressive: e.g. by lowering thresholds, by making penalties more severe, or expanding eligibility for existing measures. Some measures were qualitative: reclassifying certain types of content as violating, which had not been before.

3. I would guess these measures reduced prevalence of violating content by at least 2X. However they had collateral damage (removing and demoting non-violating content), and the episode caused noticeable resentment by Republican Facebook users who feel they are being unfairly targeted.

Facebook has publicly blamed the proliferation of election falsehoods on former President Donald J. Trump and other social platforms. In mid-January, Sheryl Sandberg, Facebook’s chief operating officer, said the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol was “largely organized on platforms that don’t have our abilities to stop hate.” Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook’s chief executive, told lawmakers in March that the company “did our part to secure the integrity of our election.”

But the company documents show the degree to which Facebook knew of extremist movements and groups on its site that were trying to polarize American voters before the election. The documents also give new detail on how aware company researchers were after the election of the flow of misinformation that posited votes had been manipulated against Mr. Trump.

What the documents do not offer is a complete picture of decision making inside Facebook. Some internal studies suggested that the company struggled to exert control over the scale of its network and how quickly information spread, while other reports hinted that Facebook was concerned about losing engagement or damaging its reputation.

Yet what was unmistakable was that Facebook’s own employees believed the social network could have done more, according to the documents.

“Enforcement was piecemeal,” read one internal review in March of Facebook’s response to Stop the Steal groups, which contended that the election was rigged against Mr. Trump. The report’s authors said they hoped the post-mortem could be a guide for how Facebook could “do this better next time.”

Many of the dozens of Facebook documents reviewed by The Times have not been previously reported. Some of the internal reports were initially obtained by Frances Haugen, a former Facebook product manager turned whistle-blower.

Ms. Haugen’s documents, some of which The Wall Street Journal has published, have created an outcry among lawmakers and regulators, plunging Facebook into one of its worst public relations crises in years. The disclosures from Ms. Haugen, who plans to appear at a hearing in Britain’s Parliament on Monday, have resurfaced questions about what role Facebook played in the events leading up to the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

Yaël Eisenstat, a former Facebook employee who oversaw safety and security on global elections ads, said the company’s research showed it had tried examining its responsibilities around the 2020 election. But “if none of this effects changes,” she said, it was a waste.

“They should be trying to understand if the way they designed the product is the problem,” Ms. Eisenstat said of her former employer.

Andy Stone, a Facebook spokesman, said the company was “proud” of the work it did to protect the 2020 election. He said Facebook worked with law enforcement, rolled out safety measures and closely monitored what was on its platform.

“The measures we did need remained in place well into February, and some, like not recommending new, civic or political groups remain in place to this day,” he said. “The responsibility for the violence that occurred on Jan. 6 lies with those who attacked our Capitol and those who encouraged them.”

A QAnon Journey

For years, Facebook employees warned of the social network’s potential to radicalize users, according to the documents.

In July 2019, a company researcher studying polarization made a startling discovery: A test account she had made for a “conservative mom” in North Carolina received conspiracy theory content recommendations within a week of joining the social network.

The internal research, titled “Carol’s Journey to QAnon,” detailed how the Facebook account for an imaginary woman named Carol Smith had followed pages for Fox News and Sinclair Broadcasting. Within days, Facebook had recommended pages and groups related to QAnon, the conspiracy theory that falsely claimed Mr. Trump was facing down a shadowy cabal of Democratic pedophiles.

The ‘Carol’ Account

The account set up for a hypothetical 41-year-old woman named Carol was sparse, with no profile photo and a handful of interests, including parenting, Christianity and civics and community.

Within a week, the account’s feed was filled with extreme, conspiratorial and graphic content. Soon after, it began receiving suggestions to join QAnon and similar groups.

By the end of three weeks, Carol Smith’s Facebook account feed had devolved further. It “became a constant flow of misleading, polarizing and low-quality content,” the researcher wrote.

Facebook’s Mr. Stone said of the work: “While this was a study of one hypothetical user, it is a perfect example of research the company does to improve our systems and helped inform our decision to remove QAnon from the platform.”

The researcher later ran polarization experiments on a left-leaning test account and found that Facebook’s algorithms fed it “low quality” memes and political misinformation. She left the company in August 2020, the same month that Facebook cracked down on QAnon pages and groups.

In her exit note, which was reviewed by The Times and was previously reported by BuzzFeed News, she said Facebook was “knowingly exposing users to risks of integrity harms” and cited the company’s slowness in acting on QAnon as a reason for her departure.

“We’ve known for over a year now that our recommendation systems can very quickly lead users down the path to conspiracy theories and groups,” the researcher wrote. “In the meantime, the fringe group/set of beliefs has grown to national prominence with QAnon congressional candidates and QAnon hashtags and groups trending in the mainstream.”

Into Election Day

Facebook tried leaving little to chance with the 2020 election.

For months, the company refined emergency measures known as “break glass” plans — such as slowing down the formation of new Facebook groups — in case of a contested result. Facebook also hired tens of thousands of employees to secure the site for the election, consulted with legal and policy experts and expanded partnerships with fact-checking organizations.

In a September 2020 public post, Mr. Zuckerberg wrote that his company had “a responsibility to protect our democracy.” He highlighted a voter registration campaign that Facebook had funded and laid out steps the company had taken — such as removing voter misinformation and blocking political ads — to “reduce the chances of violence and unrest.”

Many measures appeared to help. Election Day came and went without major hitches at Facebook.

But after the vote counts showed a tight race between Mr. Trump and Joseph R. Biden Jr., then the Democratic presidential candidate, Mr. Trump posted in the early hours of Nov. 4 on Facebook and Twitter: “They are trying to STEAL the Election.”

The internal documents show that users had found ways on Facebook to undermine confidence in the vote.

On Nov. 5, one Facebook employee posted a message to an internal online group called “News Feed Feedback.” In his note, he told colleagues that voting misinformation was conspicuous in the comments section of posts. Even worse, the employee said, comments with the most incendiary election misinformation were being amplified to appear at the top of comment threads, spreading inaccurate information.

Then on Nov. 9, a Facebook data scientist told several colleagues in an internal post that the amount of content on the social network casting doubt on the election’s results had spiked. As much as one out of every 50 views on Facebook in the United States, or 10 percent of all views of political material, was of content declaring the vote fraudulent, the researcher wrote.

“There was also a fringe of incitement to violence,” he wrote in the post.

Even so, Facebook began relaxing its emergency steps in November, three former employees said. The critical postelection period appeared to have passed and the company was concerned that some pre-election measures, such as reducing the reach of fringe right-wing pages, would lead to user complaints, they said.

Jan. 6

On the morning of Jan. 6, with protesters gathered near the U.S. Capitol building in Washington, some Facebook employees turned to a spreadsheet. There, they began cataloging the measures that the company was taking against election misinformation and inflammatory content on its platform.

User complaints about posts that incited violence had soared that morning, according to data in the spreadsheet.

Over the course of that day, as a mob stormed the Capitol, the employees updated the spreadsheet with actions that were being taken, one worker involved in the effort said. Of the dozens of steps that Facebook employees recommended, some — such as allowing company engineers to mass-delete posts that were being reported for pushing violence — were implemented.

But other measures, such as preventing groups from changing their names to terms such as Stop the Steal, were not fully implemented because of last-minute technology glitches, according to the spreadsheet.

Mr. Zuckerberg and Mike Schroepfer, Facebook’s chief technology officer, posted notes internally about their sadness over the Capitol riot. But some Facebook employees responded angrily, according to message threads viewed by The Times.

“I wish I felt otherwise, but it’s simply not enough to say that we’re adapting, because we should have adapted already long ago,” one employee wrote. “There were dozens of Stop the Steal groups active up until yesterday, and I doubt they minced words about their intentions.”

Another wrote: “I’ve always felt that on the balance my work has been meaningful and helpful to the world at large. But, honestly, this is a really dark day for me here.”

In a Jan. 7 report, the scope of what had occurred on Facebook became clear. User reports of content that potentially violated the company’s policies were seven times the amount as previous weeks, the report said. Several of the most reported posts, researchers found, “suggested the overthrow of the government” or “voiced support for the violence.”

Post-Mortems

In March, Facebook researchers published two internal reports assessing the company’s role in social movements that pushed the election fraud lies.

In one, a group of employees said Facebook had exhibited “the pattern.” That involved the company initially taking “limited or no action” against QAnon and election delegitimization movements, only to act and remove that content once they had already gained traction. The document was earlier reported by The Wall Street Journal.

Part of the problem, the employees wrote, was Facebook’s election misinformation rules left too many gray areas. As a result, posts that “could be construed as reasonable doubts about election processes” were not removed because they did not violate the letter of those rules.

Those posts then created an environment that contributed to social instability, the report said.

“Retrospectively, external sources have told us that the on-platform experiences on this narrative may have had substantial negative impacts including contributing materially to the capital riot and potentially reducing collective civic engagement and social cohesion in the years to come.”

Another report, titled “Stop the Steal and Patriot Party: The Growth and Mitigation of an Adversarial Harmful Movement,” laid out how people had exploited Facebook’s groups feature to rapidly form election delegitimization communities on the site before Jan. 6.

Some organizers sent hundreds of invitations to build the groups, essentially spamming people, the report found. They also asked everyone who joined to invite as many other people as possible, making the groups balloon in size. (Facebook has since begun more closely monitoring the amount of group invites.)

Some organizers of Stop the Steal groups on Facebook also appeared to be cooperating with each other for “growing the movement,” the report said.

“Hindsight being 20/20 makes it all the more important to look back, to learn what we can about the growth of the election delegitimizing movements that grew, spread conspiracy, and helped incite the Capitol insurrection,” the report said."

[youthathletics]

EDIT: Duplicate post

[youthathletics]

Facebook and the lead up to 1/6/2021:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/tech ... ation.html

"Sixteen months before last November’s presidential election, a researcher at Facebook described an alarming development. She was getting content about the conspiracy theory QAnon within a week of opening an experimental account, she wrote in an internal report.............

Interesting read....which leads me to this.

Curious....any chance QAnon began from the opposition party or russian bot(s), Clinton campaign, Sanders...and if not, why? The entire plan was to get rid of Trump by any means necessary....and what did Q provide; a decision for people to make regarding trump, an avenue to amplify his boisterous behavior.

Remember the black umbrella men during BLM, many here highlighted that these were insiders, instigating violence from the opposition. So why could Q not have started the very same way....then it grew legs....just like the typical chest pounding trump supporters.

[youthathletics]

Kate Beckinsale with the 152 IQ....who knew: https://www.instagram.com/p/CVV_B22PtuZ/

[Farfromgeneva]

Kate Beckinsale with the 152 IQ....who knew: https://www.instagram.com/p/CVV_B22PtuZ/

I have always given her the benefit of the doubt. Would let her perform surgery on me if she wanted to.

[Farfromgeneva]

Facebook and the lead up to 1/6/2021:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/tech ... ation.html

"Sixteen months before last November’s presidential election, a researcher at Facebook described an alarming development. She was getting content about the conspiracy theory QAnon within a week of opening an experimental account, she wrote in an internal report.............

Interesting read....which leads me to this.

Curious....any chance QAnon began from the opposition party or russian bot(s), Clinton campaign, Sanders...and if not, why? The entire plan was to get rid of Trump by any means necessary....and what did Q provide; a decision for people to make regarding trump, an avenue to amplify his boisterous behavior.

Remember the black umbrella men during BLM, many here highlighted that these were insiders, instigating violence from the opposition. So why could Q not have started the very same way....then it grew legs....just like the typical chest pounding trump supporters.

This is Qanon

https://www.azmirror.com/2021/10/21/ron ... s-arizona/

[youthathletics]

Facebook and the lead up to 1/6/2021:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/tech ... ation.html

"Sixteen months before last November’s presidential election, a researcher at Facebook described an alarming development. She was getting content about the conspiracy theory QAnon within a week of opening an experimental account, she wrote in an internal report.............

Interesting read....which leads me to this.

Curious....any chance QAnon began from the opposition party or russian bot(s), Clinton campaign, Sanders...and if not, why? The entire plan was to get rid of Trump by any means necessary....and what did Q provide; a decision for people to make regarding trump, an avenue to amplify his boisterous behavior.

Remember the black umbrella men during BLM, many here highlighted that these were insiders, instigating violence from the opposition. So why could Q not have started the very same way....then it grew legs....just like the typical chest pounding trump supporters.

This is Qanon

https://www.azmirror.com/2021/10/21/ron ... s-arizona/

Interesting....is that Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite?

[Farfromgeneva]

idiocy prevails.

Anyone see the town hall last night?

Did Jill have to "rescue" ole Joe?
Or did Joe basically crush it?

One can quibble with his views till the cows come home, but he's definitely in command of his faculties, understands the data and the logic of his views, and though he's never gonna win any articulation prizes, he's pretty darn clear about what he's thinking.

This other stuff is just silly.
Demeans the attacker.

And some of us can quibble about the state of his cognitive abilities. He ain't the politician he was 10 years ago. I must always see only the clips where he seems to be dazed and confused. What is up with his moronic tendency to whisper all the time? If it is suppose to be clever it only makes him look foolish.

Don't watch "clips"...watch him on extended questions and answers or full speech...you'll get a very different impression. I find it reassuring, given his age. Especially a session like last night, where he has to actually think and respond, recall key facts and logic, on a whole lot of topics, while staying relaxed and in command.

But of course he's not as young as 10 years ago. Who is?!

The man creeps me out. When your POTUS you don't get the luxury of running hot and cold. Sharp as a tack one moment and dumb as a box of rocks the next. The fact that is not disconcerting to you does not surprise me.

So you prefer dumb all the time for leader of the free world?p

[Farfromgeneva]

Facebook and the lead up to 1/6/2021:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/tech ... ation.html

"Sixteen months before last November’s presidential election, a researcher at Facebook described an alarming development. She was getting content about the conspiracy theory QAnon within a week of opening an experimental account, she wrote in an internal report.............

Interesting read....which leads me to this.

Curious....any chance QAnon began from the opposition party or russian bot(s), Clinton campaign, Sanders...and if not, why? The entire plan was to get rid of Trump by any means necessary....and what did Q provide; a decision for people to make regarding trump, an avenue to amplify his boisterous behavior.

Remember the black umbrella men during BLM, many here highlighted that these were insiders, instigating violence from the opposition. So why could Q not have started the very same way....then it grew legs....just like the typical chest pounding trump supporters.

This is Qanon

https://www.azmirror.com/2021/10/21/ron ... s-arizona/

Interesting....is that Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite?

Nope there’s a whole documentary on him and his dad (who is real dirt of the earth) on HBO. Know you don’t watch the but it’s fascinating. This guy, the son, is actually pretty sharp and disciplined it appears and knows how to work “less contemplative” folks (the dad is American and served but lived in Asia for a long time running real degenerate, like I wouldn’t touch in a million years and I’m pretty low, porn sites.

He literally ran the master email account for Q.

But isn’t your line of inquiry better suited for another thread and the point of that story was about Facebooks involvement in amplifying corrosive and detrimental to our governmental/societal construct as a whole, while talking to the public (and our representatives in govt) out of the other side of their mouths. Somebody recently talked about a guy who you have to check for your rings after you shake their hand-that’s Facebook Mgt up yo and through Zucks. That’s not good business practice in any way that would be taught in business school or otherwise defined in our country unless you’re a POS like Kevin O’Leary (who’s actually a business failure and canadian) that’s antithetical to all our collective values and interests in this country.

[cradleandshoot]

idiocy prevails.

Anyone see the town hall last night?

Did Jill have to "rescue" ole Joe?
Or did Joe basically crush it?

One can quibble with his views till the cows come home, but he's definitely in command of his faculties, understands the data and the logic of his views, and though he's never gonna win any articulation prizes, he's pretty darn clear about what he's thinking.

This other stuff is just silly.
Demeans the attacker.

And some of us can quibble about the state of his cognitive abilities. He ain't the politician he was 10 years ago. I must always see only the clips where he seems to be dazed and confused. What is up with his moronic tendency to whisper all the time? If it is suppose to be clever it only makes him look foolish.

Don't watch "clips"...watch him on extended questions and answers or full speech...you'll get a very different impression. I find it reassuring, given his age. Especially a session like last night, where he has to actually think and respond, recall key facts and logic, on a whole lot of topics, while staying relaxed and in command.

But of course he's not as young as 10 years ago. Who is?!

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... scrambling

Is this an example of how Joe "crushed it" the other night. When you "crush it" your minions normally don't have to scramble around like chickens with their heads cut of trying to explain Joes words to the Chicoms... You and i must have a different interpretation of the term "crush it" i guess you are grading Joe on a MD laxish type of a curve.

https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews. ... nd-gaffes/

[Farfromgeneva]

But your posting TikTok stuff is OK?

I can't believe that any of us geezers are on TikTok.

Ohhh....you just wait until your kid is a bit older, you'll be ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA, I'll even bet you a steak dinner on it. Knowing you though....you'll have the wife do it, just so you can say noppity-nope, not me, now pay up.

Are there hot, young, but legal, women on said Tik tock?

Asking for another of personality.

[cradleandshoot]

idiocy prevails.

Anyone see the town hall last night?

Did Jill have to "rescue" ole Joe?
Or did Joe basically crush it?

One can quibble with his views till the cows come home, but he's definitely in command of his faculties, understands the data and the logic of his views, and though he's never gonna win any articulation prizes, he's pretty darn clear about what he's thinking.

This other stuff is just silly.
Demeans the attacker.

And some of us can quibble about the state of his cognitive abilities. He ain't the politician he was 10 years ago. I must always see only the clips where he seems to be dazed and confused. What is up with his moronic tendency to whisper all the time? If it is suppose to be clever it only makes him look foolish.

Don't watch "clips"...watch him on extended questions and answers or full speech...you'll get a very different impression. I find it reassuring, given his age. Especially a session like last night, where he has to actually think and respond, recall key facts and logic, on a whole lot of topics, while staying relaxed and in command.

But of course he's not as young as 10 years ago. Who is?!

The man creeps me out. When your POTUS you don't get the luxury of running hot and cold. Sharp as a tack one moment and dumb as a box of rocks the next. The fact that is not disconcerting to you does not surprise me.

So you prefer dumb all the time for leader of the free world?p

I would prefer the POTUS of the USA be capable of speaking to the American people without crib notes. Barack had TOTUS and that partner served him very well. I suppose it is hard to incorporate TOTUS into a press conference. The only option available to Bidens minions would be a shock collar.