All things Chinese CoronaVirus

[MDlaxfan76]

Might be why the data was deleted. Or just google "Deleted coronavirus genetic data" youself
- https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01731-3
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/c ... story.html
- https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/scie ... -leak.html
- https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-covi ... 1631545490

This was on MSN earlier: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-AAPLZIe

Another classic, this time actually from the Examiner (just on MSNBC's feed)
NIH admits Fauci lied about funding Wuhan gain-of-function experiments[/b]

Nope, that's an opinion hit piece that twists the "admission" that EcoHealth didn't report one of its research projects as "GoF" though it could be construed as such, into "Fauci lied"...nope, NIH had strict guidelines that forbade those funds to be used for GoF research, and by their definition, they believed that EcoHealth's work was not a violation. If EcoHealth did indeed exceed that guideline, that doesn't in any way mean that Fauci lied about it.

I've heard Fauci address this directly and he ain't lying. The specific definitions matter.

And, it's unrelated to Covid...by a country mile.

[tech37]

Go ahead... If you're so certain and specific definitions matter, please explain what Fauci considers GOF research and how that differs from what investigators claim.

[jhu72]

Texas Tech (El Paso) has received an NIH grant to perform clinical trials on 3 drugs for repurposing to use against COVID, ivermectin, fluvoxamine and fluticasone.

[wgdsr]

anyone hear about a boost to our testing programs, contact tracing, etc.? winter is coming.

n95 distribution info a bonus.

[MDlaxfan76]

Go ahead... If you're so certain and specific definitions matter, please explain what Fauci considers GOF research and how that differs from what investigators claim.

Look it up for yourself; he's done so multiple times.

Here's one such. https://nypost.com/2021/05/25/fauci-adm ... -function/

He's clear that that NIH did not approve any Gof engineering of the virus, which he defines as “taking a virus that could infect humans and making it either more transmissible and/or pathogenic for humans.”

But they did do some funding of analysis of whether bat coronaviruses might transmit to humans. If EcoHealth went further, that was not approved by NIH.

In any case, the work that was apparently done was on some viruses that could not be related to Covid, could not have been reengineered to be Covid.

[jhu72]

The NIH grant final report issue is likely a mole hill being turned into a mountain. I have missed NIH final report deadlines before. A short interim report is filed as a place holder, stating the reason for not filing a final report. When the final report is filed, the interim report disappears. This can happen when the principal investigator feels he/she has not made as much progress as they believe is possible and they ultimately will. This is essentially a project extension funded by the principal investigators institution. Its a cost overrun, not charged to the granting institution. I suspect this is pretty common, or it at least was when I was active in the grant business. Basically something turns out to be harder or take longer than anticipated in the original grant application.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Go ahead... If you're so certain and specific definitions matter, please explain what Fauci considers GOF research and how that differs from what investigators claim.

[a fan]

anyone hear about a boost to our testing programs, contact tracing, etc.? winter is coming.

n95 distribution info a bonus.

Not a word.

[ardilla secreta]

Full disclosure - it wouldn’t bother me one bit if this vaccine was mandated to all in accordance with appropriate age and health guidance. Social responsibility.

Agree completely: are you on team America, or not?

It's not all take-----you have to give sometimes to be an American. This is one of those times.

So why is being on Team American falling on deaf ears with police officers. I’m sure you’ve seen the stats where police officers are dying from Covid-19 at greater numbers than all other causes combined over the last two years but are only 65% +/- vaccinated. That seems ridiculous considering the type of hands on work they do. Also quite ironic coming from a group that likes to tell people what to do, but won’t heed sound medical advice. Hard to believe this hasn’t become a highly politicized event for Americas police forces.

[a fan]

So why is being on Team American falling on deaf ears with police officers. I’m sure you’ve seen the stats where police officers are dying from Covid-19 at greater numbers than all other causes combined over the last two years but are only 65% +/- vaccinated. That seems ridiculous considering the type of hands on work they do. Also quite ironic coming from a group that likes to tell people what to do, but won’t heed sound medical advice. Hard to believe this hasn’t become a highly politicized event for Americas police forces.

My opinion? There's no way----no chance---this would have happened pre FoxNation, pre-social media. None. Zippo.

And you listed why. These people are the literal symbol of surrendering personal freedoms for the collective good of America, as well as their local communities. It's just about the dumbest thing in the world that of all people, police officers are "against" the vaccine. Pre 2000? These guys would be first in line for the shot, and calling anyone not getting the shot "soft".

Said it a million times-----the political scale is a circle. And these guys have gone so far to the right, that they landed on the left.

The far left is SUPPOSED to be the "I don't trust The Man, dude" crowd, with tinfoil hat explanations as to how "The Man is trying to control you, duuuuude".

Nope. 2021. Up is down. Down is up.

[wgdsr]

anyone hear about a boost to our testing programs, contact tracing, etc.? winter is coming.

n95 distribution info a bonus.

Not a word.

it's ok, just found a new news feed. they and the canadian fanlax i just located are up in arms about it.

[a fan]

anyone hear about a boost to our testing programs, contact tracing, etc.? winter is coming.

n95 distribution info a bonus.

Not a word.

it's ok, just found a new news feed. they and the canadian fanlax i just located are up in arms about it.

Make sure you find the subgroup that believes that the vaccine is a plot to take Team Canada's hockey program out of medal contention in the next Winter Olympics. I'm told they usually bring good beer and baked goods to the meetings.

[wgdsr]

anyone hear about a boost to our testing programs, contact tracing, etc.? winter is coming.

n95 distribution info a bonus.

Not a word.

it's ok, just found a new news feed. they and the canadian fanlax i just located are up in arms about it.

Make sure you find the subgroup that believes that the vaccine is a plot to take Team Canada's hockey program out of medal contention in the next Winter Olympics. I'm told they usually bring good beer and baked goods to the meetings.

i can do non sequiturs.

[ardilla secreta]

So why is being on Team American falling on deaf ears with police officers. I’m sure you’ve seen the stats where police officers are dying from Covid-19 at greater numbers than all other causes combined over the last two years but are only 65% +/- vaccinated. That seems ridiculous considering the type of hands on work they do. Also quite ironic coming from a group that likes to tell people what to do, but won’t heed sound medical advice. Hard to believe this hasn’t become a highly politicized event for Americas police forces.

My opinion? There's no way----no chance---this would have happened pre FoxNation, pre-social media. None. Zippo.

And you listed why. These people are the literal symbol of surrendering personal freedoms for the collective good of America, as well as their local communities. It's just about the dumbest thing in the world that of all people, police officers are "against" the vaccine. Pre 2000? These guys would be first in line for the shot, and calling anyone not getting the shot "soft".

Said it a million times-----the political scale is a circle. And these guys have gone so far to the right, that they landed on the left.

The far left is SUPPOSED to be the "I don't trust The Man, dude" crowd, with tinfoil hat explanations as to how "The Man is trying to control you, duuuuude".

Nope. 2021. Up is down. Down is up.

Speaking of Zippo, last week I was in Bradford, PA to visit the Kinzua Bridge State Park and afterwards stopped at the Zippo/Case Museum and Flagship Store. Interesting history of Zippo and even though I don’t smoke, I picked up their vintage 1930’s retro polished chrome lighter. Not much going on in Bradford except the occasional Trump banner. The only Biden sign was one that read “Biden Loves Minors”.

[tech37]

So why is being on Team American falling on deaf ears with police officers. I’m sure you’ve seen the stats where police officers are dying from Covid-19 at greater numbers than all other causes combined over the last two years but are only 65% +/- vaccinated. That seems ridiculous considering the type of hands on work they do. Also quite ironic coming from a group that likes to tell people what to do, but won’t heed sound medical advice. Hard to believe this hasn’t become a highly politicized event for Americas police forces.

My opinion? There's no way----no chance---this would have happened pre FoxNation, pre-social media. None. Zippo.

And you listed why. These people are the literal symbol of surrendering personal freedoms for the collective good of America, as well as their local communities. It's just about the dumbest thing in the world that of all people, police officers are "against" the vaccine. Pre 2000? These guys would be first in line for the shot, and calling anyone not getting the shot "soft".

Said it a million times-----the political scale is a circle. And these guys have gone so far to the right, that they landed on the left.

The far left is SUPPOSED to be the "I don't trust The Man, dude" crowd, with tinfoil hat explanations as to how "The Man is trying to control you, duuuuude".

Nope. 2021. Up is down. Down is up.

Maybe. Perhaps too obvious but seems to me that since Obama was in office cops have been beaten up by a lefty opposition and the msm. Overall what occupation has taken a similar hit? In what other occupation might you say, I can't win for losing and feel demoralized? Healthcare workers perhaps? Of course some of that animus toward police has been self-fulfilling (I don't need to mention the highly publicized instances).

Fox or social-media? They have played a part I suppose but it's simpler than that I think. Cops are pi$$ed and have a giant chip on their collective shoulders. They see an admin that includes defunders, sanctuary city advocates, open border policies, little support in general, etc., mandating their healthcare space, and rightly or wrongly, it's a chance to say FU.

[SCLaxAttack]

It’s not just police it’s also fire. Saw last night that NYC is planning to potentially close a significant number of firehouses if necessary.

Fire safety people have been treated with almost reverential support since at least 9-11. Fire vaccination %ages are just as bad as police %ages. This isn’t about how police have been treated. This is about a certain segment of people in our society who are caught up in the politics of Covid and not public health.

[runrussellrun]

So why is being on Team American falling on deaf ears with police officers. I’m sure you’ve seen the stats where police officers are dying from Covid-19 at greater numbers than all other causes combined over the last two years but are only 65% +/- vaccinated. That seems ridiculous considering the type of hands on work they do. Also quite ironic coming from a group that likes to tell people what to do, but won’t heed sound medical advice. Hard to believe this hasn’t become a highly politicized event for Americas police forces.

My opinion? There's no way----no chance---this would have happened pre FoxNation, pre-social media. None. Zippo.

And you listed why. These people are the literal symbol of surrendering personal freedoms for the collective good of America, as well as their local communities. It's just about the dumbest thing in the world that of all people, police officers are "against" the vaccine. Pre 2000? These guys would be first in line for the shot, and calling anyone not getting the shot "soft".

Said it a million times-----the political scale is a circle. And these guys have gone so far to the right, that they landed on the left.

The far left is SUPPOSED to be the "I don't trust The Man, dude" crowd, with tinfoil hat explanations as to how "The Man is trying to control you, duuuuude".

Nope. 2021. Up is down. Down is up.

Dude......you, rightfully so, constantly point out the LIBERAL minded people that won't take TRUMPS emergency vaccine. Just stop with the pretend division based on a commercial TV station.....\
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And NO....ardilla....not familiar with cops dying from covid in greater numbers than other "frontline" workers. Did you and yours make that fear porn statement , ummm......without any evidence.......for a reason ?

Remember, over 100 million US residents GOT covid....and are still alive. WHY should they take the vaccine, when natural immunity is the gold standard ? geez.....science is settled

[tech37]

It’s not just police it’s also fire. Saw last night that NYC is planning to potentially close a significant number of firehouses if necessary.

Fire safety people have been treated with almost reverential support since at least 9-11. This isn’t about how police have been treated. This is about a certain segment of people in our society who are caught up in the politics of Covid and not public health.

Good point re firefighters...thanks. Much of this has pre-Covid roots though IMO.

[tech37]

The only Biden sign was one that read “Biden Loves Minors”.

No doubt, some witty folks in PA

[Typical Lax Dad]

So why is being on Team American falling on deaf ears with police officers. I’m sure you’ve seen the stats where police officers are dying from Covid-19 at greater numbers than all other causes combined over the last two years but are only 65% +/- vaccinated. That seems ridiculous considering the type of hands on work they do. Also quite ironic coming from a group that likes to tell people what to do, but won’t heed sound medical advice. Hard to believe this hasn’t become a highly politicized event for Americas police forces.

My opinion? There's no way----no chance---this would have happened pre FoxNation, pre-social media. None. Zippo.

And you listed why. These people are the literal symbol of surrendering personal freedoms for the collective good of America, as well as their local communities. It's just about the dumbest thing in the world that of all people, police officers are "against" the vaccine. Pre 2000? These guys would be first in line for the shot, and calling anyone not getting the shot "soft".

Said it a million times-----the political scale is a circle. And these guys have gone so far to the right, that they landed on the left.

The far left is SUPPOSED to be the "I don't trust The Man, dude" crowd, with tinfoil hat explanations as to how "The Man is trying to control you, duuuuude".

Nope. 2021. Up is down. Down is up.

Maybe. Perhaps too obvious but seems to me that since Obama was in office cops have been beaten up by a lefty opposition and the msm. Overall what occupation has taken a similar hit? In what other occupation might you say, I can't win for losing and feel demoralized? Healthcare workers perhaps? Of course some of that animus toward police has been self-fulfilling (I don't need to mention the highly publicized instances).

Fox or social-media? They have played a part I suppose but it's simpler than that I think. Cops are pi$$ed and have a giant chip on their collective shoulders. They see an admin that includes defunders, sanctuary city advocates, open border policies, little support in general, etc., mandating their healthcare space, and rightly or wrongly, it's a chance to say FU.

All political issues. Little support? Aren’t they paid well?