All things Chinese CoronaVirus

The odds are excellent that you will leave this forum hating someone.

How many of your friends and family members have died of the Chinese Corona Virus?

0 people
44
64%
1 person.
10
14%
2 people.
3
4%
3 people.
5
7%
More.
7
10%
 
Total votes: 69

Farfromgeneva
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wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
But by definition as I just stated separately, there has to be a credible discussion, not bad faith attempts to deflect or otherwise use excessive heuristics, in order for trolling to exist. When the condition precedent fails the concept of trolling can’t exist. I’m sure you understand that logic (seriously I know you’re fairly thoughtful). If a persons response can be anticipated and be trope-ish, and isn’t a direct answer but consistent obfuscation and redirection away from those who try (like poor MD who keeps trying and getting Shat on over and over for his efforts) then trolling can’t exist and it’s just another obfuscation to try to creating a victim sentiment from like minded people.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:48 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
But by definition as I just stated separately, there has to be a credible discussion, not bad faith attempts to deflect or otherwise use excessive heuristics, in order for trolling to exist. When the condition precedent fails the concept of trolling can’t exist. I’m sure you understand that logic (seriously I know you’re fairly thoughtful). If a persons response can be anticipated and be trope-ish, and isn’t a direct answer but consistent obfuscation and redirection away from those who try (like poor MD who keeps trying and getting Shat on over and over for his efforts) then trolling can’t exist and it’s just another obfuscation to try to creating a victim sentiment from like minded people.
i'm not sure what all this means entirely, but again as above i'm on record against the trolling regulations for the politics board.
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wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:56 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:48 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
But by definition as I just stated separately, there has to be a credible discussion, not bad faith attempts to deflect or otherwise use excessive heuristics, in order for trolling to exist. When the condition precedent fails the concept of trolling can’t exist. I’m sure you understand that logic (seriously I know you’re fairly thoughtful). If a persons response can be anticipated and be trope-ish, and isn’t a direct answer but consistent obfuscation and redirection away from those who try (like poor MD who keeps trying and getting Shat on over and over for his efforts) then trolling can’t exist and it’s just another obfuscation to try to creating a victim sentiment from like minded people.
i'm not sure what all this means entirely, but again as above i'm on record against the trolling regulations for the politics board.
I agree just can’t have 8chan stuff going on that would put the admin at legal or civil risk but otherwise I’m free form/open architecture because that’s why a real world community is or should be.

Ironically homeboy Joe Mauer told me how I couldn’t stand the heat in the kitchen numerous times and then bounces (meanwhile I’m still married…).

Maybe I misunderstood I thought you felt people were trolling and didnt like those perceived acts to which I was providing a perspective on what would be required before and following action could be defined as trolling. For example is PBrown or Brooklyn start lobbing bombs and grouping people into cohorts and then someone responded in a way that, say Kramerica (certainly not me), would define as trolling. Well since it started with behavior that wasn’t in any way realistically attempting to have a two way open discourse but rather to simply refuse to accept anything the other side might present or inquire as to then there’s no trolling as there was never a chance of finding a common ground unless it was solely on the originating persons terms.0
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:03 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:56 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:48 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
But by definition as I just stated separately, there has to be a credible discussion, not bad faith attempts to deflect or otherwise use excessive heuristics, in order for trolling to exist. When the condition precedent fails the concept of trolling can’t exist. I’m sure you understand that logic (seriously I know you’re fairly thoughtful). If a persons response can be anticipated and be trope-ish, and isn’t a direct answer but consistent obfuscation and redirection away from those who try (like poor MD who keeps trying and getting Shat on over and over for his efforts) then trolling can’t exist and it’s just another obfuscation to try to creating a victim sentiment from like minded people.
i'm not sure what all this means entirely, but again as above i'm on record against the trolling regulations for the politics board.
I agree just can’t have 8chan stuff going on that would put the admin at legal or civil risk but otherwise I’m free form/open architecture because that’s why a real world community is or should be.

Ironically homeboy Joe Mauer told me how I couldn’t stand the heat in the kitchen numerous times and then bounces (meanwhile I’m still married…).

Maybe I misunderstood I thought you felt people were trolling and didnt like those perceived acts to which I was providing a perspective on what would be required before and following action could be defined as trolling. For example is PBrown or Brooklyn start lobbing bombs and grouping people into cohorts and then someone responded in a way that, say Kramerica (certainly not me), would define as trolling. Well since it started with behavior that wasn’t in any way realistically attempting to have a two way open discourse but rather to simply refuse to accept anything the other side might present or inquire as to then there’s no trolling as there was never a chance of finding a common ground unless it was solely on the originating persons terms.0
tld "trolls" me all the time. i have zero problem with it unless it's neither true nor accurate with what he's referring to me. think absence of malice with newman and fields.

btb, you misunderstood a conversation b/t tld and i month(s)? ago, as the sarcasm font doesn't work on fanlax, and it devolved with you and i thereafter momentarily.

any event, i replied initially to kram's post. when you administer trolling thru a partisan lens on politics boards, it's bound to have hiccups. unavoidable.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:13 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
I want to know the ol’ ball coach’s religious exemption request.
My understanding was that he never gave an specific reason and that wasn’t accepted. Right?
I heard he was seeking a religious exemption. I want to know what it was.
you already know. friends and family you've devoted time and energy to -- they stick with one ironclad objection, believe it to their core? with evidence what they're saying is true? or have a host of reasons, flimsy, maybe one cuts to the core some (trust, scared).

wsu coaches were put in a box, medical or religious (spiritual?). medical's not a sound plan without detailed records. what they chose is not surprising.
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wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:22 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:03 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:56 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:48 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
But by definition as I just stated separately, there has to be a credible discussion, not bad faith attempts to deflect or otherwise use excessive heuristics, in order for trolling to exist. When the condition precedent fails the concept of trolling can’t exist. I’m sure you understand that logic (seriously I know you’re fairly thoughtful). If a persons response can be anticipated and be trope-ish, and isn’t a direct answer but consistent obfuscation and redirection away from those who try (like poor MD who keeps trying and getting Shat on over and over for his efforts) then trolling can’t exist and it’s just another obfuscation to try to creating a victim sentiment from like minded people.
i'm not sure what all this means entirely, but again as above i'm on record against the trolling regulations for the politics board.
I agree just can’t have 8chan stuff going on that would put the admin at legal or civil risk but otherwise I’m free form/open architecture because that’s why a real world community is or should be.

Ironically homeboy Joe Mauer told me how I couldn’t stand the heat in the kitchen numerous times and then bounces (meanwhile I’m still married…).

Maybe I misunderstood I thought you felt people were trolling and didnt like those perceived acts to which I was providing a perspective on what would be required before and following action could be defined as trolling. For example is PBrown or Brooklyn start lobbing bombs and grouping people into cohorts and then someone responded in a way that, say Kramerica (certainly not me), would define as trolling. Well since it started with behavior that wasn’t in any way realistically attempting to have a two way open discourse but rather to simply refuse to accept anything the other side might present or inquire as to then there’s no trolling as there was never a chance of finding a common ground unless it was solely on the originating persons terms.0
tld "trolls" me all the time. i have zero problem with it unless it's neither true nor accurate with what he's referring to me. think absence of malice with newman and fields.

btb, you misunderstood a conversation b/t tld and i month(s)? ago, as the sarcasm font doesn't work on fanlax, and it devolved with you and i thereafter momentarily.

any event, i replied initially to kram's post. when you administer trolling thru a partisan lens on politics boards, it's bound to have hiccups. unavoidable.
Understood and agree w respect to his complaining about trolling.
That’s just deflection when one it out of credible arguments and want to maintain a position of opposition IMO.

I can move on usually and clearly you can too. People generally deserve the benefit of doubt but there is a point where there’s a sort of a breach of implicit trust which is different than acting w malice but equally malicious if that makes sense
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:53 pm What’s a troll?

A troll is Internet slang for a person who intentionally tries to instigate conflict, hostility, or arguments in an online social community. ... Trolls often use inflammatory messages to provoke emotional responses out of people, disrupting otherwise civil discussion.

“You’re racist. He’s a prick. Right wingers are pricks.”

Sounds awfully familiar to the crap someone else around here spews. The guy who’s always in fanlax jail.

But Doc agrees with Matnum’s political views so he gets a pass.

Same sh it, different day.
ok, so not a "personal attack" then, but you're saying doc's violating this rule?

Added to forum rules within Unsportsmanlike Conduct
SECTION 4. No post-er shall:
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d. Troll and/or commit other Russian 'bot and/or other Putinesque behaviors. A troll is someone who uses over-the-top opinions or unverified claims to incite others, stir up controversy, and change a civilized discussion into a battleground.

Ok, so are you simply saying that Doc calling the fired coach a "pr*ck" in an "over-the-top opinion" or an "unverified claim" to "incite others, stir up controversy, and change a civilized discussion into a battleground"?

I guess one could call it an "over-the-top opinion" but who was it inciting or stirring up? Did it change a civilized discussion into a battleground?

Perhaps the Admin would agree with you, but he'd need to have it flagged to be able to respond. Go ahead and do so if you really think somethings way out of bounds. Or be patient and let it die down...and if doesn't, then report it to Admin...

Seems to me that we all do veer at times into hyperbole, but is there some actual "Putinesque behavior" in this? Actual misinformation, out of the blue, off topic incendiary BS? Offered only to inflame rather than express an honestly held view?

For instance, if I recall correctly, you sometimes express in rather brutal language what you think about abortion, etc, but I'm pretty sure that's an honestly held view and you're just expressing your own strongly held views...and you do so on the appropriate threads, in context...some may well find it offensive and strongly disagree, but even if you're using hyperbole, I wouldn't call that trolling...on topic and honest.

wgdsr is indeed consistent with his prior expressed view on this topic.

I just don't see any bias as yet.
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wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:41 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:13 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
I want to know the ol’ ball coach’s religious exemption request.
My understanding was that he never gave an specific reason and that wasn’t accepted. Right?
I heard he was seeking a religious exemption. I want to know what it was.
you already know. friends and family you've devoted time and energy to -- they stick with one ironclad objection, believe it to their core? with evidence what they're saying is true? or have a host of reasons, flimsy, maybe one cuts to the core some (trust, scared).

wsu coaches were put in a box, medical or religious (spiritual?). medical's not a sound plan without detailed records. what they chose is not surprising.
So, you're saying the religious exemption request was definitely BS?
And we all know that?

ok, if that's the case, that alone would be sufficient reason to not hire the guy to be responsible for others.
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Leadership is sometimes about risking ire:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... p-critics/

"President Biden’s approval rating was 9.7 points higher than his disapproval rating on July 1. Now it’s 4.7 points lower. There are a lot of reasons for the decline in his popularity, ranging from the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan to rising inflation fears. But the problem that has probably done more than any other to dent his popularity is covid-19. Public approval of Biden’s handling of the pandemic has fallen by more than 10 points since July 1.

On one level, this is perfectly understandable — July was when the delta variant spread across the country, producing a spike in covid cases. This was a gut punch to many who had been hoping that we could put the pandemic behind us. But it is deeply unfair to blame the president for the recent covid surge (now waning). He has done an excellent job of dealing with the pandemic despite incessant criticism and outrageous obstructionism from the right.

When Biden took office, the country had three effective vaccines available thanks to the work of President Donald Trump’s Operation Warp Speed. But there was no good plan for getting shots into people’s arms. Biden appointed a competent, experienced team that worked with vaccine-makers to speed up production and with states and localities to speed up shots. In the seven days leading up to Inauguration Day, an average of 892,399 shots a day were being administered. By April 13, the figure had soared to 3.38 million shots a day — an increase of nearly 280 percent. Biden easily exceeded his goal of getting 100 million shots into arms in his first 100 days.

But then the vaccination campaign ran into resistance among minorities, the young and, especially, Republicans. The pace of vaccinations slowed over the summer, making it impossible to achieve Biden’s goal of getting 70 percent of adults jabbed at least once by July 4. Tragically, this slowdown in vaccinations coincided with the spread of the far more contagious delta variant. The number of daily covid deaths spiked from a seven-day average of 256 on July 1 to more than 2,000 on Sept. 18.

Instead of assuring the public that the pandemic would miraculously disappear on its own or pushing snake-oil therapies, as his predecessor did, Biden responded to the new crisis with much-needed federal action. On Sept. 9, he announced new mandates requiring vaccinations for the federal workforce, workers in medical facilities that accept federal funding, and (with a testing opt out) all employees of companies with more than 100 workers. (Blue states such as California and New York also imposed their own vaccine requirements.) He still didn’t go quite as far as I would have liked — he needs to impose a vaccination requirement for airline or train travel — but he went further than many had expected. It was a bold and gutsy move in light of the predictable political blowback.

The response from Republicans was hysterical and hyperbolic. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) screamed on Twitter, “NO VACCINE MANDATES,” and Rep. Elise Stefanik (N.Y.) condemned the mandates as “authoritarian.” A dozen Republican governors have signed legislation prohibiting coronavirus vaccine mandates in their states. Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas is now trying to forbid even private companies from enforcing vaccine requirements. So much for GOP devotion to the free market.

Meanwhile, Fox “News” Channel undermines the vaccine effort daily. Fox’s anchors — most of whom are vaccinated themselves — elevate backward vaccine resisters such as basketball star Kyrie Irving to the status of folk heroes. Predictably, Fox used Colin Powell’s death from covid to trash vaccines, even though his immune system had been compromised by cancer and Parkinson’s disease.

Yet, despite this infuriating right-wing sabotage, the tide is turning. Between Sept. 9 and Oct. 18, the average number of daily vaccinations increased 26 percent while the average number of new cases fell 43 percent. This isn’t all because of the mandates, but they certainly helped.

Predictions that vaccine mandates would fail (“Vaccine Mandates Can’t Stop Covid’s Spread,” warned a typical right-wing op-ed) have not panned out. At Houston Methodist Hospital, 98 percent of the staff have been vaccinated. At Novant Health in the Southeast, it’s 99 percent. At United Airlines, it’s 99 percent of employees. In the Navy, it’s 98 percent of sailors. The number of workers laid off for refusing to get vaccinated is so low that the professional prevaricators at Fox “News” were reduced to falsely attributing flight cancellations by Southwest Airlines to vaccine resistance.

Biden gambled with vaccine mandates — and that gamble is now paying off. Our coronavirus vaccination rate is still too low, and our covid death rate is still too high compared with those of other Western countries, but that’s hardly his fault. Blame Republicans: Only 58 percent of them are vaccinated, compared with 90 percent of Democrats.

There’s not much Biden can do about masochistic right-wingers such as radio host Dennis Prager, who says he deliberately became infected with covid-19 to develop “natural immunity.” But the president is doing almost everything within his power to combat the pandemic — and his efforts are paying off.

There are legitimate reasons to criticize Biden. His handling of covid isn’t one of them."
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:13 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
I want to know the ol’ ball coach’s religious exemption request.
My understanding was that he never gave an specific reason and that wasn’t accepted. Right?
I heard he was seeking a religious exemption. I want to know what it was.
It’s been reported that he did claim a religious exemption. That’s not an opinion so others need to get more informed before opining if they want to cry victim and supposedly being trolled. There has to be an honest and open attempt in order for trolling to exist.
Ol’ ball coach was a year behind my protégé at Marin Catholic High School….He has known Ol’ ball coach for years…. Ol’ ball coach was Catholic….
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:45 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:41 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:13 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
I want to know the ol’ ball coach’s religious exemption request.
My understanding was that he never gave an specific reason and that wasn’t accepted. Right?
I heard he was seeking a religious exemption. I want to know what it was.
you already know. friends and family you've devoted time and energy to -- they stick with one ironclad objection, believe it to their core? with evidence what they're saying is true? or have a host of reasons, flimsy, maybe one cuts to the core some (trust, scared).

wsu coaches were put in a box, medical or religious (spiritual?). medical's not a sound plan without detailed records. what they chose is not surprising.
So, you're saying the religious exemption request was definitely BS?
And we all know that?

ok, if that's the case, that alone would be sufficient reason to not hire the guy to be responsible for others.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:13 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
I want to know the ol’ ball coach’s religious exemption request.
My understanding was that he never gave an specific reason and that wasn’t accepted. Right?
I heard he was seeking a religious exemption. I want to know what it was.
It’s been reported that he did claim a religious exemption. That’s not an opinion so others need to get more informed before opining if they want to cry victim and supposedly being trolled. There has to be an honest and open attempt in order for trolling to exist.
Ol’ ball coach was a year behind my protégé at Marin Catholic High School….He has known Ol’ ball coach for years…. Ol’ ball coach was Catholic….
"in FAQs published on the archdiocesan website earlier this month, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore J. Cordileone explained that while there is not a religious exemption to the vaccine because it is permissible under Catholic ethical teaching, Catholics can object in conscience and that conscience exemptions are supported by Catholic teaching. The decision to be vaccinated is a personal choice, the FAQs state, and further add: “We must also voice concern about promoting vaccination in ways that may be coercive or that place unjust burdens on someone who chooses not to be vaccinated such as denying them the right to work, to participate in society, and to have access to an education.”

In the three counties of the archdiocese, Marin, San Mateo and San Francisco, there are 89 Catholic schools: 22 preschools, 55 elementary, and 12 high schools. Just under 23,000 students attend Catholic school in the archdiocese, according to the Catholic schools website."
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wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:13 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
I want to know the ol’ ball coach’s religious exemption request.
My understanding was that he never gave an specific reason and that wasn’t accepted. Right?
I heard he was seeking a religious exemption. I want to know what it was.
It’s been reported that he did claim a religious exemption. That’s not an opinion so others need to get more informed before opining if they want to cry victim and supposedly being trolled. There has to be an honest and open attempt in order for trolling to exist.
Ol’ ball coach was a year behind my protégé at Marin Catholic High School….He has known Ol’ ball coach for years…. Ol’ ball coach was Catholic….
"in FAQs published on the archdiocesan website earlier this month, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore J. Cordileone explained that while there is not a religious exemption to the vaccine because it is permissible under Catholic ethical teaching, Catholics can object in conscience and that conscience exemptions are supported by Catholic teaching. The decision to be vaccinated is a personal choice, the FAQs state, and further add: “We must also voice concern about promoting vaccination in ways that may be coercive or that place unjust burdens on someone who chooses not to be vaccinated such as denying them the right to work, to participate in society, and to have access to an education.”

In the three counties of the archdiocese, Marin, San Mateo and San Francisco, there are 89 Catholic schools: 22 preschools, 55 elementary, and 12 high schools. Just under 23,000 students attend Catholic school in the archdiocese, according to the Catholic schools website."

Ol' Sal worried about his cash flow?

From my protégé:

He was a late bloomer. Didn’t get recruited much out of high school. Went to City College, blew up and then went to Hawaii where he started. Played in the Arena league. I think he had a couple cups of coffee with various NFL teams.

He didn’t seem like this kind of guy in high school.
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This guy is nuts.

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:25 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:13 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
I want to know the ol’ ball coach’s religious exemption request.
My understanding was that he never gave an specific reason and that wasn’t accepted. Right?
I heard he was seeking a religious exemption. I want to know what it was.
It’s been reported that he did claim a religious exemption. That’s not an opinion so others need to get more informed before opining if they want to cry victim and supposedly being trolled. There has to be an honest and open attempt in order for trolling to exist.
Ol’ ball coach was a year behind my protégé at Marin Catholic High School….He has known Ol’ ball coach for years…. Ol’ ball coach was Catholic….
"in FAQs published on the archdiocesan website earlier this month, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore J. Cordileone explained that while there is not a religious exemption to the vaccine because it is permissible under Catholic ethical teaching, Catholics can object in conscience and that conscience exemptions are supported by Catholic teaching. The decision to be vaccinated is a personal choice, the FAQs state, and further add: “We must also voice concern about promoting vaccination in ways that may be coercive or that place unjust burdens on someone who chooses not to be vaccinated such as denying them the right to work, to participate in society, and to have access to an education.”

In the three counties of the archdiocese, Marin, San Mateo and San Francisco, there are 89 Catholic schools: 22 preschools, 55 elementary, and 12 high schools. Just under 23,000 students attend Catholic school in the archdiocese, according to the Catholic schools website."

Ol' Sal worried about his cash flow?

From my protégé:

He was a late bloomer. Didn’t get recruited much out of high school. Went to City College, blew up and then went to Hawaii where he started. Played in the Arena league. I think he had a couple cups of coffee with various NFL teams.

He didn’t seem like this kind of guy in high school.
he hires people that are financial whiz kids. has a fortress balance sheet.
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wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:40 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:25 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:13 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
I want to know the ol’ ball coach’s religious exemption request.
My understanding was that he never gave an specific reason and that wasn’t accepted. Right?
I heard he was seeking a religious exemption. I want to know what it was.
It’s been reported that he did claim a religious exemption. That’s not an opinion so others need to get more informed before opining if they want to cry victim and supposedly being trolled. There has to be an honest and open attempt in order for trolling to exist.
Ol’ ball coach was a year behind my protégé at Marin Catholic High School….He has known Ol’ ball coach for years…. Ol’ ball coach was Catholic….
"in FAQs published on the archdiocesan website earlier this month, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore J. Cordileone explained that while there is not a religious exemption to the vaccine because it is permissible under Catholic ethical teaching, Catholics can object in conscience and that conscience exemptions are supported by Catholic teaching. The decision to be vaccinated is a personal choice, the FAQs state, and further add: “We must also voice concern about promoting vaccination in ways that may be coercive or that place unjust burdens on someone who chooses not to be vaccinated such as denying them the right to work, to participate in society, and to have access to an education.”

In the three counties of the archdiocese, Marin, San Mateo and San Francisco, there are 89 Catholic schools: 22 preschools, 55 elementary, and 12 high schools. Just under 23,000 students attend Catholic school in the archdiocese, according to the Catholic schools website."

Ol' Sal worried about his cash flow?

From my protégé:

He was a late bloomer. Didn’t get recruited much out of high school. Went to City College, blew up and then went to Hawaii where he started. Played in the Arena league. I think he had a couple cups of coffee with various NFL teams.

He didn’t seem like this kind of guy in high school.
he hires people that are financial whiz kids. has a fortress balance sheet.
Sal? And you know this to be true? What happened to the vow of poverty?
“I wish you would!”
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Re: All things CoronaVirus

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:45 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:40 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:25 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:13 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
I want to know the ol’ ball coach’s religious exemption request.
My understanding was that he never gave an specific reason and that wasn’t accepted. Right?
I heard he was seeking a religious exemption. I want to know what it was.
It’s been reported that he did claim a religious exemption. That’s not an opinion so others need to get more informed before opining if they want to cry victim and supposedly being trolled. There has to be an honest and open attempt in order for trolling to exist.
Ol’ ball coach was a year behind my protégé at Marin Catholic High School….He has known Ol’ ball coach for years…. Ol’ ball coach was Catholic….
"in FAQs published on the archdiocesan website earlier this month, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore J. Cordileone explained that while there is not a religious exemption to the vaccine because it is permissible under Catholic ethical teaching, Catholics can object in conscience and that conscience exemptions are supported by Catholic teaching. The decision to be vaccinated is a personal choice, the FAQs state, and further add: “We must also voice concern about promoting vaccination in ways that may be coercive or that place unjust burdens on someone who chooses not to be vaccinated such as denying them the right to work, to participate in society, and to have access to an education.”

In the three counties of the archdiocese, Marin, San Mateo and San Francisco, there are 89 Catholic schools: 22 preschools, 55 elementary, and 12 high schools. Just under 23,000 students attend Catholic school in the archdiocese, according to the Catholic schools website."

Ol' Sal worried about his cash flow?

From my protégé:

He was a late bloomer. Didn’t get recruited much out of high school. Went to City College, blew up and then went to Hawaii where he started. Played in the Arena league. I think he had a couple cups of coffee with various NFL teams.

He didn’t seem like this kind of guy in high school.
he hires people that are financial whiz kids. has a fortress balance sheet.
Sal? And you know this to be true? What happened to the vow of poverty?
sal, was that an edit? i was talking about nick. did sal play for the rainbows, too?
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Re: All things CoronaVirus

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wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:47 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:45 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:40 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:25 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:13 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
I want to know the ol’ ball coach’s religious exemption request.
My understanding was that he never gave an specific reason and that wasn’t accepted. Right?
I heard he was seeking a religious exemption. I want to know what it was.
It’s been reported that he did claim a religious exemption. That’s not an opinion so others need to get more informed before opining if they want to cry victim and supposedly being trolled. There has to be an honest and open attempt in order for trolling to exist.
Ol’ ball coach was a year behind my protégé at Marin Catholic High School….He has known Ol’ ball coach for years…. Ol’ ball coach was Catholic….
"in FAQs published on the archdiocesan website earlier this month, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore J. Cordileone explained that while there is not a religious exemption to the vaccine because it is permissible under Catholic ethical teaching, Catholics can object in conscience and that conscience exemptions are supported by Catholic teaching. The decision to be vaccinated is a personal choice, the FAQs state, and further add: “We must also voice concern about promoting vaccination in ways that may be coercive or that place unjust burdens on someone who chooses not to be vaccinated such as denying them the right to work, to participate in society, and to have access to an education.”

In the three counties of the archdiocese, Marin, San Mateo and San Francisco, there are 89 Catholic schools: 22 preschools, 55 elementary, and 12 high schools. Just under 23,000 students attend Catholic school in the archdiocese, according to the Catholic schools website."

Ol' Sal worried about his cash flow?

From my protégé:

He was a late bloomer. Didn’t get recruited much out of high school. Went to City College, blew up and then went to Hawaii where he started. Played in the Arena league. I think he had a couple cups of coffee with various NFL teams.

He didn’t seem like this kind of guy in high school.
he hires people that are financial whiz kids. has a fortress balance sheet.
Sal? And you know this to be true? What happened to the vow of poverty?
sal, was that an edit? i was talking about nick. did sal play for the rainbows, too?
I was talking about Sal. I see how I mixed two subjects…Anyway, you know this to be true about Nick?
“I wish you would!”
wgdsr
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Re: All things CoronaVirus

Post by wgdsr »

Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:49 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:47 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:45 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:40 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:25 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:13 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
I want to know the ol’ ball coach’s religious exemption request.
My understanding was that he never gave an specific reason and that wasn’t accepted. Right?
I heard he was seeking a religious exemption. I want to know what it was.
It’s been reported that he did claim a religious exemption. That’s not an opinion so others need to get more informed before opining if they want to cry victim and supposedly being trolled. There has to be an honest and open attempt in order for trolling to exist.
Ol’ ball coach was a year behind my protégé at Marin Catholic High School….He has known Ol’ ball coach for years…. Ol’ ball coach was Catholic….
"in FAQs published on the archdiocesan website earlier this month, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore J. Cordileone explained that while there is not a religious exemption to the vaccine because it is permissible under Catholic ethical teaching, Catholics can object in conscience and that conscience exemptions are supported by Catholic teaching. The decision to be vaccinated is a personal choice, the FAQs state, and further add: “We must also voice concern about promoting vaccination in ways that may be coercive or that place unjust burdens on someone who chooses not to be vaccinated such as denying them the right to work, to participate in society, and to have access to an education.”

In the three counties of the archdiocese, Marin, San Mateo and San Francisco, there are 89 Catholic schools: 22 preschools, 55 elementary, and 12 high schools. Just under 23,000 students attend Catholic school in the archdiocese, according to the Catholic schools website."

Ol' Sal worried about his cash flow?

From my protégé:

He was a late bloomer. Didn’t get recruited much out of high school. Went to City College, blew up and then went to Hawaii where he started. Played in the Arena league. I think he had a couple cups of coffee with various NFL teams.

He didn’t seem like this kind of guy in high school.
he hires people that are financial whiz kids. has a fortress balance sheet.
Sal? And you know this to be true? What happened to the vow of poverty?
sal, was that an edit? i was talking about nick. did sal play for the rainbows, too?
I was talking about Sal. I see how I mixed two subjects…Anyway, you know this to be true about Nick?
of course. we know all about him on here.
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Re: All things CoronaVirus

Post by Typical Lax Dad »

wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:51 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:49 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:47 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:45 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:40 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:25 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:13 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:13 pm gotta say, didn't love the trolling idea on the politics threads.
I want to know the ol’ ball coach’s religious exemption request.
My understanding was that he never gave an specific reason and that wasn’t accepted. Right?
I heard he was seeking a religious exemption. I want to know what it was.
It’s been reported that he did claim a religious exemption. That’s not an opinion so others need to get more informed before opining if they want to cry victim and supposedly being trolled. There has to be an honest and open attempt in order for trolling to exist.
Ol’ ball coach was a year behind my protégé at Marin Catholic High School….He has known Ol’ ball coach for years…. Ol’ ball coach was Catholic….
"in FAQs published on the archdiocesan website earlier this month, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore J. Cordileone explained that while there is not a religious exemption to the vaccine because it is permissible under Catholic ethical teaching, Catholics can object in conscience and that conscience exemptions are supported by Catholic teaching. The decision to be vaccinated is a personal choice, the FAQs state, and further add: “We must also voice concern about promoting vaccination in ways that may be coercive or that place unjust burdens on someone who chooses not to be vaccinated such as denying them the right to work, to participate in society, and to have access to an education.”

In the three counties of the archdiocese, Marin, San Mateo and San Francisco, there are 89 Catholic schools: 22 preschools, 55 elementary, and 12 high schools. Just under 23,000 students attend Catholic school in the archdiocese, according to the Catholic schools website."

Ol' Sal worried about his cash flow?

From my protégé:

He was a late bloomer. Didn’t get recruited much out of high school. Went to City College, blew up and then went to Hawaii where he started. Played in the Arena league. I think he had a couple cups of coffee with various NFL teams.

He didn’t seem like this kind of guy in high school.
he hires people that are financial whiz kids. has a fortress balance sheet.
Sal? And you know this to be true? What happened to the vow of poverty?
sal, was that an edit? i was talking about nick. did sal play for the rainbows, too?
I was talking about Sal. I see how I mixed two subjects…Anyway, you know this to be true about Nick?
of course. we know all about him on here.
Really. You know who manages some of Nick’s money and how well he is doing? I don’t.
“I wish you would!”
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