Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
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who needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
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I don’t think anyone needs to be protected but to see some rosters of 75 and other programs struggling to get 30 isn’t good for the game. Plus factor in the guys on larger rosters who really have zero chance at every seeing playing time. Some probably would be better off going to a different school where they have a chance to play.
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The non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
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so then programs? and players can't go to school where they choose as a result, that's the end game?bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pmThe non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
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do you believe these players are unaware of the roster size and the difficulty factor of getting on the field?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:17 pm I don’t think anyone needs to be protected but to see some rosters of 75 and other programs struggling to get 30 isn’t good for the game. Plus factor in the guys on larger rosters who really have zero chance at every seeing playing time. Some probably would be better off going to a different school where they have a chance to play.
and if no, is it better that someone else makes their choice for them?
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This is an interesting perspective. If I understand the premise, limiting rosters would prevent schools from taking classes of >15 and, by extension, hoarding talented players (many of whom would likely never play meaningful minutes) away from other/"lower" schools.bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pmThe non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
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It happens in other sports all the time. The goal is to grow the game not to allow the schools with tons of resources hoard all the players. If they didn’t have roster limits in football Alabama would have 120 four and five star recruits. It’s not healthy for the sport. The NCAA put the limits in after Johnny Majors took a 50 player recruiting class at Pitt and won a national championship.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:36 pmso then programs? and players can't go to school where they choose as a result, that's the end game?bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pmThe non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
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Did he win because he took 50 players or because he took Tony Dorsett? I didn’t realize he had a 50 player recruiting class. That’s insane.bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:53 pmIt happens in other sports all the time. The goal is to grow the game not to allow the schools with tons of resources hoard all the players. If they didn’t have roster limits in football Alabama would have 120 four and five star recruits. It’s not healthy for the sport. The NCAA put the limits in after Johnny Majors took a 50 player recruiting class at Pitt and won a national championship.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:36 pmso then programs? and players can't go to school where they choose as a result, that's the end game?bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pmThe non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
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ok. so not a rule change to benefit players, then.bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:53 pmIt happens in other sports all the time. The goal is to grow the game not to allow the schools with tons of resources hoard all the players. If they didn’t have roster limits in football Alabama would have 120 four and five star recruits. It’s not healthy for the sport. The NCAA put the limits in after Johnny Majors took a 50 player recruiting class at Pitt and won a national championship.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:36 pmso then programs? and players can't go to school where they choose as a result, that's the end game?bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pmThe non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
what i think won't change anything, and we all have different visions of equity.
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No one football player is good enough to carry a team to a national title singlehandedly. That Pitt team had a ton of future NFL players. Dorsett was clearly the best of the bunch though.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:57 pmDid he win because he took 50 players or because he took Tony Dorsett? I didn’t realize he had a 50 player recruiting class. That’s insane.bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:53 pmIt happens in other sports all the time. The goal is to grow the game not to allow the schools with tons of resources hoard all the players. If they didn’t have roster limits in football Alabama would have 120 four and five star recruits. It’s not healthy for the sport. The NCAA put the limits in after Johnny Majors took a 50 player recruiting class at Pitt and won a national championship.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:36 pmso then programs? and players can't go to school where they choose as a result, that's the end game?bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pmThe non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
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Why do you assume it doesn’t benefit the player? Imagine the horror of not being the 60th player on the Hopkins roster but being a contributor at Dartmouth.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:59 pmok. so not a rule change to benefit players, then.bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:53 pmIt happens in other sports all the time. The goal is to grow the game not to allow the schools with tons of resources hoard all the players. If they didn’t have roster limits in football Alabama would have 120 four and five star recruits. It’s not healthy for the sport. The NCAA put the limits in after Johnny Majors took a 50 player recruiting class at Pitt and won a national championship.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:36 pmso then programs? and players can't go to school where they choose as a result, that's the end game?bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pmThe non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
what i think won't change anything, and we all have different visions of equity.
Every year kids at the schools with bloated rosters transfer because they can’t travel with the team, let alone play. Or consider the kids who quit the sport because they get to their “dream” school only to find out they will never see the field.
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i get it. you would rather other people make that decision for them.bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:19 pmWhy do you assume it doesn’t benefit the player? Imagine the horror of not being the 60th player on the Hopkins roster but being a contributor at Dartmouth.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:59 pmok. so not a rule change to benefit players, then.bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:53 pmIt happens in other sports all the time. The goal is to grow the game not to allow the schools with tons of resources hoard all the players. If they didn’t have roster limits in football Alabama would have 120 four and five star recruits. It’s not healthy for the sport. The NCAA put the limits in after Johnny Majors took a 50 player recruiting class at Pitt and won a national championship.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:36 pmso then programs? and players can't go to school where they choose as a result, that's the end game?bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pmThe non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
what i think won't change anything, and we all have different visions of equity.
Every year kids at the schools with bloated rosters transfer because they can’t travel with the team, let alone play. Or consider the kids who quit the sport because they get to their “dream” school only to find out they will never see the field.
Re: Roster Limits for lacrosse
majors was hired in '72?-'73 and that was the last year of unlimited schollys.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:57 pmDid he win because he took 50 players or because he took Tony Dorsett? I didn’t realize he had a 50 player recruiting class. That’s insane.bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:53 pmIt happens in other sports all the time. The goal is to grow the game not to allow the schools with tons of resources hoard all the players. If they didn’t have roster limits in football Alabama would have 120 four and five star recruits. It’s not healthy for the sport. The NCAA put the limits in after Johnny Majors took a 50 player recruiting class at Pitt and won a national championship.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:36 pmso then programs? and players can't go to school where they choose as a result, that's the end game?bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pmThe non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
sherrill puts the guess at 76, but they didn't come out of camp with that many:
https://archive.triblive.com/news/class ... al-season/
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Tony Dorsett may have been the best college running back I have ever seen and OJ Simpson was the best pro I have ever seen.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:26 pmmajors was hired in '72?-'73 and that was the last year of unlimited schollys.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:57 pmDid he win because he took 50 players or because he took Tony Dorsett? I didn’t realize he had a 50 player recruiting class. That’s insane.bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:53 pmIt happens in other sports all the time. The goal is to grow the game not to allow the schools with tons of resources hoard all the players. If they didn’t have roster limits in football Alabama would have 120 four and five star recruits. It’s not healthy for the sport. The NCAA put the limits in after Johnny Majors took a 50 player recruiting class at Pitt and won a national championship.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:36 pmso then programs? and players can't go to school where they choose as a result, that's the end game?bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pmThe non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
sherrill puts the guess at 76, but they didn't come out of camp with that many:
https://archive.triblive.com/news/class ... al-season/
“I wish you would!”
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i would take earl campbell ahead of td (and even with hershel and with adrian peterson right there), but no one touches barry sanders at okie st.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:42 pmTony Dorsett may have been the best college running back I have ever seen and OJ Simpson was the best pro I have ever seen.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:26 pmmajors was hired in '72?-'73 and that was the last year of unlimited schollys.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:57 pmDid he win because he took 50 players or because he took Tony Dorsett? I didn’t realize he had a 50 player recruiting class. That’s insane.bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:53 pmIt happens in other sports all the time. The goal is to grow the game not to allow the schools with tons of resources hoard all the players. If they didn’t have roster limits in football Alabama would have 120 four and five star recruits. It’s not healthy for the sport. The NCAA put the limits in after Johnny Majors took a 50 player recruiting class at Pitt and won a national championship.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:36 pmso then programs? and players can't go to school where they choose as a result, that's the end game?bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pmThe non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
sherrill puts the guess at 76, but they didn't come out of camp with that many:
https://archive.triblive.com/news/class ... al-season/
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I believe they players are aware of the roster sizes but I think they are a little optimistic about their ability and somewhat misled about their chances of seeing time.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:38 pmdo you believe these players are unaware of the roster size and the difficulty factor of getting on the field?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:17 pm I don’t think anyone needs to be protected but to see some rosters of 75 and other programs struggling to get 30 isn’t good for the game. Plus factor in the guys on larger rosters who really have zero chance at every seeing playing time. Some probably would be better off going to a different school where they have a chance to play.
and if no, is it better that someone else makes their choice for them?
And no I don’t think it’s better for them for someone else to make their choice for them. But if there was roster limits they wouldn’t be getting recruited or have a choice to make.
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so someone else is making their choice. school presidents, in fact.River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:57 pmI believe they players are aware of the roster sizes but I think they are a little optimistic about their ability and somewhat misled about their chances of seeing time.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:38 pmdo you believe these players are unaware of the roster size and the difficulty factor of getting on the field?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:17 pm I don’t think anyone needs to be protected but to see some rosters of 75 and other programs struggling to get 30 isn’t good for the game. Plus factor in the guys on larger rosters who really have zero chance at every seeing playing time. Some probably would be better off going to a different school where they have a chance to play.
and if no, is it better that someone else makes their choice for them?
And no I don’t think it’s better for them for someone else to make their choice for them. But if there was roster limits they wouldn’t be getting recruited or have a choice to make.
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I think that a fairly simplistic way of looking at it but you do you boo.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:23 pmi get it. you would rather other people make that decision for them.bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:19 pmWhy do you assume it doesn’t benefit the player? Imagine the horror of not being the 60th player on the Hopkins roster but being a contributor at Dartmouth.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:59 pmok. so not a rule change to benefit players, then.bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:53 pmIt happens in other sports all the time. The goal is to grow the game not to allow the schools with tons of resources hoard all the players. If they didn’t have roster limits in football Alabama would have 120 four and five star recruits. It’s not healthy for the sport. The NCAA put the limits in after Johnny Majors took a 50 player recruiting class at Pitt and won a national championship.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:36 pmso then programs? and players can't go to school where they choose as a result, that's the end game?bar_down wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pmThe non ACC/B1G programs? There is no reason why any program needs a 60+ man roster. A couple ACC/B1G schools routinely take 15-17 players in a recruiting class.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:58 pmwho needs to be protected from unlimited rosters?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:34 pm Personally I feel roster limits is long overdue for lacrosse. Schools are abusing the integrity of the game as a way to facilitate higher enrollment numbers. “Heads in beds” programs are becoming more and more common. I can go on and on but more looking for other peoples opinions. I think a roster limit of 50 would be more then fine.
D1 baseball has roster limits, why not lacrosse??
what i think won't change anything, and we all have different visions of equity.
Every year kids at the schools with bloated rosters transfer because they can’t travel with the team, let alone play. Or consider the kids who quit the sport because they get to their “dream” school only to find out they will never see the field.
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No, my point was if they weren’t being recruited to play lacrosse they wouldn’t be interested in that school.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:01 pmso someone else is making their choice. school presidents, in fact.River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:57 pmI believe they players are aware of the roster sizes but I think they are a little optimistic about their ability and somewhat misled about their chances of seeing time.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:38 pmdo you believe these players are unaware of the roster size and the difficulty factor of getting on the field?River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:17 pm I don’t think anyone needs to be protected but to see some rosters of 75 and other programs struggling to get 30 isn’t good for the game. Plus factor in the guys on larger rosters who really have zero chance at every seeing playing time. Some probably would be better off going to a different school where they have a chance to play.
and if no, is it better that someone else makes their choice for them?
And no I don’t think it’s better for them for someone else to make their choice for them. But if there was roster limits they wouldn’t be getting recruited or have a choice to make.