All things CoronaVirus

[JoeMauer89]

Point being....she was vaccinated, had a breakthrough case in under a year, had symptoms and was treated. We may just have to live with it and if you have CV19 symptoms....you are prescribed a therapeutic, much like other illnesses.

Sure we can live with it. We have no choice. We are still living with the versions of the 1918 flu that are still circulating today.

Point being -- she was vaccinated.

This is step 1 in living with it. So, yet again, it is forking mouth breathers who are forking it up for all of us.

Just like how that a-hole Kyrie is forking over his team and fans for stupid selfish reasons.

yep……developing a vaccine is how you “live with it”

Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will take a brand spanking new anti-viral drug (that won't be against their religion) but heaven forbid they take a vax that's been around for nearly a year now, or mask up.

Freedom my ax. It's been a spite thing for months now.

Why is the development of an antiviral pill a negative thing? It's yet ANOTHER tool along with vaccination we have in our toolbox. Blowing smoke and complaining about Anti-Vaxxers does absolutely ZERO to help. Lot of it in this thread.

Joe

More twisting. Where did I say an anti-viral is a negative thing?

But there are people who'll immediately pop a new pill, or demand Ivermectin, or expect monoclonal antibody treatment, and have taken innumerable vaccines, but will be damned if they take a Covid vaccine or wear a mask, and you know it.

Those people do it out of spite.

Edit to add - I'll go one step further. Those who have taken the vaccine but defend others who choose to not take it are abrogating a responsibility to society.

Not my job to tell someone what health decision to make. Not yours either. People in the public health sphere get paid to do that. If those people chose not to listen, they either will face certain consequences or they won't. There will be unvaccinated people until the end of time, the sooner you realize that, the less time you will waste continuing to feel the need to fulfill "your responsibility".... Life is short, enjoy it. You want to spend all your time shaming others for being unvaccinated, so be it. DO NOT make others feel as if they are any less of a person than you are because you chose to morally shame them on a daily basis. Jesus christ, give me a break this bullcrap.

Joe

Joe, maybe the important question to ask yourself is why do you keep entering this conversation, much less like a bull in a china shop?

If it bothers you so much, why not avoid it?

Instead, you entered with the accusation that someone had called the development of an anti-viral drug that could help with Covid, a ""negative thing". That was false and unfounded. No one had said such. And it was obvious no one had said that.

and yet, that's how you entered.

But there is this very real issue that some people are actually refraining from getting vaccinated, with the screwy logic that they can't trust the vaccine, yet are willing to believe in a new drug (which does have serious promise, apparently!), much less a drug that definitely doesn't (ie ivermectin). Yeah, that really is a problem...doesn't make the new drug a "negative" but rather the people not getting vaccinated using it as an excuse are indeed a 'negative'.

so, folks explain that...

And then you turn and go back to this refrain that no one should have an opinion, much less say their opinion, about the responsibility we all have to one another, not just ourselves.

And you keep resorting to the same "Life is short, enjoy it" as if no one agrees with you as to enjoying life. Trust me, no one is disagreeing with you about that.

If you were solely making some sort of behavioral science argument that the best way to get the most people vaccinated as possible was to avoid "shaming" in the process, that'd actually be an interesting discussion...but instead you're ripping at the very argument that it's important at all.

and yeah, that's gonna get push back. Hard.

Obviously Joe isn’t vaccinated.

I am vaccinated TLD. I've been working in my company office for 3 days week since May now. Can only do that BECAUSE I am vaccinated. It's not so black and white as you make it. I can be of that opinion and still be vaccinated. Nonsense. Boy you guys are really something else. Accusatory to the NTH degree because you would rather morally shame somebody on this thread then spend the time thinking about the potential positives of an Antiviral pill. Instead, SClax goes right to the fact that Anti-Vaxxers are going to use it as a crutch? What about how it could potentially help an immunocompromised person who is vaccinated yet still contracts covid? Where's the discussion on that? Everything centers around anti-vaxx mouth breathers. None of those people EXIST on this god damn thread. Wasting your time constantly repeating it. Talking mostly to people on this thread that have the same narrow political narrative that you do. You don't even realize how much you guys just talk over each other and repeat the same bullcrap.

Joe

Why did you get vaccinated Joe?

I got vaccinated because I am capable of deducing that it was choice for me that the benefits outweighed the risks. But that was my DECISION. Not anybody else. Not the same for everyone.

Joe

What???!!! Risk is relevant??!! . Dude we all got to die some day. May as well be Covid-19. Who cares if you spread it. Fools gon’ die anyway.

I'm really puzzled at this response? Seems like your taking your anger about Anti-Vaxxer's out on me. Fair enough, I can handle it. Use that anger and turn it into a positive. You know all about turning risk into reward!

Joe

Anger? You got the wrong guy.

Good to know, just wanted to make sure. Then it is your "concern" that you are directing at me. Never said who cares who spreads it. Not once. Maybe you should take a role preaching vaccine efficacy in under-vaccinated areas. You would be perfect for the role!

Joe

[Typical Lax Dad]

Point being....she was vaccinated, had a breakthrough case in under a year, had symptoms and was treated. We may just have to live with it and if you have CV19 symptoms....you are prescribed a therapeutic, much like other illnesses.

Sure we can live with it. We have no choice. We are still living with the versions of the 1918 flu that are still circulating today.

Point being -- she was vaccinated.

This is step 1 in living with it. So, yet again, it is forking mouth breathers who are forking it up for all of us.

Just like how that a-hole Kyrie is forking over his team and fans for stupid selfish reasons.

yep……developing a vaccine is how you “live with it”

Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will take a brand spanking new anti-viral drug (that won't be against their religion) but heaven forbid they take a vax that's been around for nearly a year now, or mask up.

Freedom my ax. It's been a spite thing for months now.

Why is the development of an antiviral pill a negative thing? It's yet ANOTHER tool along with vaccination we have in our toolbox. Blowing smoke and complaining about Anti-Vaxxers does absolutely ZERO to help. Lot of it in this thread.

Joe

More twisting. Where did I say an anti-viral is a negative thing?

But there are people who'll immediately pop a new pill, or demand Ivermectin, or expect monoclonal antibody treatment, and have taken innumerable vaccines, but will be damned if they take a Covid vaccine or wear a mask, and you know it.

Those people do it out of spite.

Edit to add - I'll go one step further. Those who have taken the vaccine but defend others who choose to not take it are abrogating a responsibility to society.

Not my job to tell someone what health decision to make. Not yours either. People in the public health sphere get paid to do that. If those people chose not to listen, they either will face certain consequences or they won't. There will be unvaccinated people until the end of time, the sooner you realize that, the less time you will waste continuing to feel the need to fulfill "your responsibility".... Life is short, enjoy it. You want to spend all your time shaming others for being unvaccinated, so be it. DO NOT make others feel as if they are any less of a person than you are because you chose to morally shame them on a daily basis. Jesus christ, give me a break this bullcrap.

Joe

Joe, maybe the important question to ask yourself is why do you keep entering this conversation, much less like a bull in a china shop?

If it bothers you so much, why not avoid it?

Instead, you entered with the accusation that someone had called the development of an anti-viral drug that could help with Covid, a ""negative thing". That was false and unfounded. No one had said such. And it was obvious no one had said that.

and yet, that's how you entered.

But there is this very real issue that some people are actually refraining from getting vaccinated, with the screwy logic that they can't trust the vaccine, yet are willing to believe in a new drug (which does have serious promise, apparently!), much less a drug that definitely doesn't (ie ivermectin). Yeah, that really is a problem...doesn't make the new drug a "negative" but rather the people not getting vaccinated using it as an excuse are indeed a 'negative'.

so, folks explain that...

And then you turn and go back to this refrain that no one should have an opinion, much less say their opinion, about the responsibility we all have to one another, not just ourselves.

And you keep resorting to the same "Life is short, enjoy it" as if no one agrees with you as to enjoying life. Trust me, no one is disagreeing with you about that.

If you were solely making some sort of behavioral science argument that the best way to get the most people vaccinated as possible was to avoid "shaming" in the process, that'd actually be an interesting discussion...but instead you're ripping at the very argument that it's important at all.

and yeah, that's gonna get push back. Hard.

Obviously Joe isn’t vaccinated.

I am vaccinated TLD. I've been working in my company office for 3 days week since May now. Can only do that BECAUSE I am vaccinated. It's not so black and white as you make it. I can be of that opinion and still be vaccinated. Nonsense. Boy you guys are really something else. Accusatory to the NTH degree because you would rather morally shame somebody on this thread then spend the time thinking about the potential positives of an Antiviral pill. Instead, SClax goes right to the fact that Anti-Vaxxers are going to use it as a crutch? What about how it could potentially help an immunocompromised person who is vaccinated yet still contracts covid? Where's the discussion on that? Everything centers around anti-vaxx mouth breathers. None of those people EXIST on this god damn thread. Wasting your time constantly repeating it. Talking mostly to people on this thread that have the same narrow political narrative that you do. You don't even realize how much you guys just talk over each other and repeat the same bullcrap.

Joe

Why did you get vaccinated Joe?

I got vaccinated because I am capable of deducing that it was choice for me that the benefits outweighed the risks. But that was my DECISION. Not anybody else. Not the same for everyone.

Joe

What???!!! Risk is relevant??!! . Dude we all got to die some day. May as well be Covid-19. Who cares if you spread it. Fools gon’ die anyway.

I'm really puzzled at this response? Seems like your taking your anger about Anti-Vaxxer's out on me. Fair enough, I can handle it. Use that anger and turn it into a positive. You know all about turning risk into reward!

Joe

Anger? You got the wrong guy.

Good to know, just wanted to make sure. Then it is your "concern" that you are directing at me. Never said who cares who spreads it. Not once. Maybe you should take a role preaching vaccine efficacy in under-vaccinated areas. You would be perfect for the role!

Joe

I am more interested in the people gonna die anyway mentality. Wondered why you bothered to be vaccinated. It’s a little inconsistent but its 2021.

[a fan]

I got vaccinated because I am capable of deducing that it was choice for me that the benefits outweighed the risks. But that was my DECISION. Not anybody else. Not the same for everyone.

Joe

So choice is important when it comes to vaccines here in 2021, is it?

So does this mean you're on board with removing your State's mandatory vaccination requirements for both K-12 and University admissions?

No more mandatory polio shots, Joe? No more mandatory shots for measels, mumps, etc?

[JoeMauer89]

I got vaccinated because I am capable of deducing that it was choice for me that the benefits outweighed the risks. But that was my DECISION. Not anybody else. Not the same for everyone.

Joe

So choice is important when it comes to vaccines here in 2021, is it?

So does this mean you're on board with removing your State's mandatory vaccination requirements for both K-12 and University admissions?

No more mandatory polio shots, Joe? No more mandatory shots for measels, mumps, etc?

I'm not against removing any of those vaccination requirements. Never said I was. I'm not an Anti-Vaxxer, far from it. I just provide a necessary, different viewpoint to this thread because it's become more utopian in nature recently and not at all grounded in reality.

Joe

[a fan]

I got vaccinated because I am capable of deducing that it was choice for me that the benefits outweighed the risks. But that was my DECISION. Not anybody else. Not the same for everyone.

Joe

So choice is important when it comes to vaccines here in 2021, is it?

So does this mean you're on board with removing your State's mandatory vaccination requirements for both K-12 and University admissions?

No more mandatory polio shots, Joe? No more mandatory shots for measels, mumps, etc?

I'm not against removing any of those vaccination requirements. Never said I was. I'm not an Anti-Vaxxer, far from it. I just provide a necessary, different viewpoint to this thread because it's become more utopian in nature recently and not at all grounded in reality.

Joe

So you want free choice for this vaccine, and ONLY this vaccine. Do I have that right?

But you're fine with the government forcing citizens to take OTHER vaccines? Polio, MMR, etc.?

I just want to make sure I'm understanding your position here.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I got vaccinated because I am capable of deducing that it was choice for me that the benefits outweighed the risks. But that was my DECISION. Not anybody else. Not the same for everyone.

Joe

So choice is important when it comes to vaccines here in 2021, is it?

So does this mean you're on board with removing your State's mandatory vaccination requirements for both K-12 and University admissions?

No more mandatory polio shots, Joe? No more mandatory shots for measels, mumps, etc?

I'm not against removing any of those vaccination requirements. Never said I was. I'm not an Anti-Vaxxer, far from it. I just provide a necessary, different viewpoint to this thread because it's become more utopian in nature recently and not at all grounded in reality.

Joe

So you want free choice for this vaccine, and ONLY this vaccine. Do I have that right?

But you're fine with the government forcing citizens to take OTHER vaccines? Polio, MMR, etc.?

I just want to make sure I'm understanding your position here.

And people are going to die anyway so the government and citizens should not fret about what people can do about it....... Similarly, we are always going to have pedophiles so why talk about it. No shame in it. Kids should just enjoy life. Could happen to anyone... can't make it stop. This Catholic priest thing is overblown too.

[Farfromgeneva]

The Jesus got a raw deal!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qee82dZ0llg

[Typical Lax Dad]

The Jesus got a raw deal!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qee82dZ0llg

How have I not seen that!

[Farfromgeneva]

The Jesus got a raw deal!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qee82dZ0llg

How have I not seen that!

Now you have-called the jesus rolls. Maybe 2yrs old. Based on, loosely, some old Gerard Depardeaux (sp?) movie where two guys steal a car and aimlessly go around messing around that was made first half of the 70s I guess.

[JoeMauer89]

I got vaccinated because I am capable of deducing that it was choice for me that the benefits outweighed the risks. But that was my DECISION. Not anybody else. Not the same for everyone.

Joe

So choice is important when it comes to vaccines here in 2021, is it?

So does this mean you're on board with removing your State's mandatory vaccination requirements for both K-12 and University admissions?

No more mandatory polio shots, Joe? No more mandatory shots for measels, mumps, etc?

I'm not against removing any of those vaccination requirements. Never said I was. I'm not an Anti-Vaxxer, far from it. I just provide a necessary, different viewpoint to this thread because it's become more utopian in nature recently and not at all grounded in reality.

Joe

So you want free choice for this vaccine, and ONLY this vaccine. Do I have that right?

But you're fine with the government forcing citizens to take OTHER vaccines? Polio, MMR, etc.?

I just want to make sure I'm understanding your position here.

What are you getting at? We are talking about CV-19 in this thread. Not Polio, MMR, etc. There's no mandate to get vaccinated in order to attend in-person school so this is a moot point. AGAIN, not against vaccination. But I don't take it personally when other's don't chose to get it for various reasons. I guess I'm worse because I got vaccinated and don't believe those who haven't aren't morally reprehensible? Pick your battles...

Joe

[dislaxxic]

What's he getting at? You're not being obtuse at all, right? He's getting at VACCINATIONS. Sure, vaxxing is the topic of the day regarding COVID-19, but how can you be confused by the question AF is asking you? Somehow you're dodging the question about not objecting to the general population being "forced" to get vaccinated for other disease, but you're NOT OK with it being forced for a highly contagious, very deadly disease like COVID-19?? Why?

Some may draw a conclusion about why you won't answer the question...AF is TRYING to coax a position out of you to leave no doubt about it, you know, don't let someone else define your position, right? Did you want to just GUESS at why some see this avoidance and obfuscation as rank hypocrisy rooted in political numbnuttery? Show us how that's wrong...

..

[Typical Lax Dad]

What's he getting at? You're not being obtuse at all, right? He's getting at VACCINATIONS. Sure, vaxxing is the topic of the day regarding COVID-19, but how can you be confused by the question AF is asking you? Somehow you're dodging the question about not objecting to the general population being "forced" to get vaccinated for other disease, but you're NOT OK with it being forced for a highly contagious, very deadly disease like COVID-19?? Why?

Some may draw a conclusion about why you won't answer the question...AF is TRYING to coax a position out of you to leave no doubt about it, you know, don't let someone else define your position, right? Did you want to just GUESS at why some see this avoidance and obfuscation as rank hypocrisy rooted in political numbnuttery? Show us how that's wrong...

..

1 dead person, 10,000 dead people, 100,000 dead people, 750,000 dead people…. It’s all the same….no point in going on record as to when it would be a problem in his mind. People die all the time, 2,000,000 dead Americans from a pandemic? Meh government should let people do as they please.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... a-vaccine/

[wgdsr]

if someone could just list how and when and who we should be agreeing with on mandates, that'd be great so everyone on here can keep up.
is it the july position that the feds won't be issuing mandates and didn't think they had the authority to anyway, the september ones for fed, or the local ones, state ones?

is there a support group to join?

[Typical Lax Dad]

if someone could just list how and when and who we should be agreeing with on mandates, that'd be great so everyone on here can keep up.
is it the july position that the feds won't be issuing mandates and didn't think they had the authority to anyway, the september ones for fed, or the local ones, state ones?

is there a support group to join?

Don’t matter. People don’t need the government to think for them. If a person wants to eat old meat, why not. Nothing wrong with food poisoning. It could be worse….like COVID-19. A little E. Coli might be good for a person….

[Farfromgeneva]

if someone could just list how and when and who we should be agreeing with on mandates, that'd be great so everyone on here can keep up.
is it the july position that the feds won't be issuing mandates and didn't think they had the authority to anyway, the september ones for fed, or the local ones, state ones?

is there a support group to join?

Would you agree that Abbott banning private businesses from having a private mandate as part of their employment is problematic? If not why not.

[Farfromgeneva]

if someone could just list how and when and who we should be agreeing with on mandates, that'd be great so everyone on here can keep up.
is it the july position that the feds won't be issuing mandates and didn't think they had the authority to anyway, the september ones for fed, or the local ones, state ones?

is there a support group to join?

Don’t matter. People don’t need the government to think for them. If a person wants to eat old meat, why not. Nothing wrong with food poisoning. It could be worse….like COVID-19.

[Farfromgeneva]

if someone could just list how and when and who we should be agreeing with on mandates, that'd be great so everyone on here can keep up.
is it the july position that the feds won't be issuing mandates and didn't think they had the authority to anyway, the september ones for fed, or the local ones, state ones?

is there a support group to join?

Don’t matter. People don’t need the government to think for them. If a person wants to eat old meat, why not. Nothing wrong with food poisoning. It could be worse….like COVID-19.

What’s wrong with a bit of Mithradization here and a little hormesis there?

[wgdsr]

if someone could just list how and when and who we should be agreeing with on mandates, that'd be great so everyone on here can keep up.
is it the july position that the feds won't be issuing mandates and didn't think they had the authority to anyway, the september ones for fed, or the local ones, state ones?

is there a support group to join?

Would you agree that Abbott banning private businesses from having a private mandate as part of their employment is problematic? If not why not.

yes.

[runrussellrun]

Anger? You got the wrong guy.

Good to know, just wanted to make sure. Then it is your "concern" that you are directing at me. Never said who cares who spreads it. Not once. Maybe you should take a role preaching vaccine efficacy in under-vaccinated areas. You would be perfect for the role!

Joe
[/quote]

Deep HIGH today.....but....this is funny. Fun stuff...tuff stough.


Reminds me of the hooker book, written by a Brown student............angry?

therapy....sex......therapy.

IPA's and lagers just make it worse................


oh yes.