All things CoronaVirus

[JoeMauer89]

Parents are too negative

Obviously she was old.

Obviously there aren’t approved vaccines for 10 year olds or did I miss the memo?

Did you?

Important to make sure one is doing everything they can to stay in the best shape possible. Any death of a child that young is unfortunate. Just by looking at the picture the article has, she is quite overweight and one knows that does one no favors with a respiratory virus like this. What should the take away be from this besides highly unfortunate? I can sit here all day long and scour the web for anecdotal stories that support my frame of mind. Does this mean it's commonplace? FAR from it. Remember not to get sucked into the anecdotal vortex. You seem to scour the web deeply to find these stories to support your views, ideology, etc.

Joe

First, I quite agree that obesity is a major co-morbidity factor. The stats are pretty clear, though it's just one factor. But a big one. Putting aside that the kid is overweight (probably not obese...yet), mom and dad are definitely obese.

Indeed 2/3 of Americans are overweight or obese, with this increasing as a % with age groups.

But let's be clear, over 19% of children under 18 are indeed actually obese, another, larger, % is overweight. It just gets worse with age as metabolisms naturally slow, sugar additions worsen, etc.

And over 50% of our overall healthcare costs in America are driven by our poor nutritional behaviors, diabetes, heart disease, metabolic disorder, joint pain, some cancers, etc.

This is a very disturbing reality in America today...but that's what it is, a reality, and we're not talking about small numbers of people, including among kids.

And that's not going to change overnight, much as I or we wish otherwise.

I know that you're not dismissing that this child died, an otherwise seemingly healthy, though overweight child, from contracting COVID. Nor do I think that you are dismissing that more will surely die with continuing spread of Covid, especially Delta (and possibly future variants) affecting more kids than Alpha did.

But unless you're clear about that, you could be misunderstood. It's more than merely an anecdote, it's putting faces and personal stories to the actual #'s, which are not insignificant.

And what are these parents asking? Simply that we all do our best to help to reduce spread...eg get vaccinated, wear a mask when inside etc. Don't rail against these efforts and dissuade others from doing the same.

Not at all what I am doing. Kid's 5-11 will be vaccinated in the very short-term future. That;'s all you are asking for... Whether school was in person or virtual, this still (likely) would have happened. It's a shame. Not downplaying anything.

Joe

Well, actually probably would not have happened if school was virtual, but as you know I'm not advocating that as the best policy at this point.

There are other policies that make more sense, given all the costs/benefits. But we do need to actually follow them, encourage others...even insist on others, to follow them.

Much better for the kids (and parents) overall.

Yes, situationally based. That's what I'm advocating. The current situation on Long Island does not call for virtual schooling.

Joe

[Typical Lax Dad]

Parents are too negative

Obviously she was old.

Obviously there aren’t approved vaccines for 10 year olds or did I miss the memo?

Did you?

Important to make sure one is doing everything they can to stay in the best shape possible. Any death of a child that young is unfortunate. Just by looking at the picture the article has, she is quite overweight and one knows that does one no favors with a respiratory virus like this. What should the take away be from this besides highly unfortunate? I can sit here all day long and scour the web for anecdotal stories that support my frame of mind. Does this mean it's commonplace? FAR from it. Remember not to get sucked into the anecdotal vortex. You seem to scour the web deeply to find these stories to support your views, ideology, etc.

Joe

First, I quite agree that obesity is a major co-morbidity factor. The stats are pretty clear, though it's just one factor. But a big one. Putting aside that the kid is overweight (probably not obese...yet), mom and dad are definitely obese.

Indeed 2/3 of Americans are overweight or obese, with this increasing as a % with age groups.

But let's be clear, over 19% of children under 18 are indeed actually obese, another, larger, % is overweight. It just gets worse with age as metabolisms naturally slow, sugar additions worsen, etc.

And over 50% of our overall healthcare costs in America are driven by our poor nutritional behaviors, diabetes, heart disease, metabolic disorder, joint pain, some cancers, etc.

This is a very disturbing reality in America today...but that's what it is, a reality, and we're not talking about small numbers of people, including among kids.

And that's not going to change overnight, much as I or we wish otherwise.

I know that you're not dismissing that this child died, an otherwise seemingly healthy, though overweight child, from contracting COVID. Nor do I think that you are dismissing that more will surely die with continuing spread of Covid, especially Delta (and possibly future variants) affecting more kids than Alpha did.

But unless you're clear about that, you could be misunderstood. It's more than merely an anecdote, it's putting faces and personal stories to the actual #'s, which are not insignificant.

And what are these parents asking? Simply that we all do our best to help to reduce spread...eg get vaccinated, wear a mask when inside etc. Don't rail against these efforts and dissuade others from doing the same.

Not at all what I am doing. Kid's 5-11 will be vaccinated in the very short-term future. That;'s all you are asking for... Whether school was in person or virtual, this still (likely) would have happened. It's a shame. Not downplaying anything.

Joe

Well, actually probably would not have happened if school was virtual, but as you know I'm not advocating that as the best policy at this point.

There are other policies that make more sense, given all the costs/benefits. But we do need to actually follow them, encourage others...even insist on others, to follow them.

Much better for the kids (and parents) overall.

Yes, situationally based. That's what I'm advocating. The current situation on Long Island does not call for virtual schooling.

Joe

Where on LI? All the schools operate the same? In CT a couple of towns was 100% in person last year.

https://projects.newsday.com/long-islan ... ng-island/

[JoeMauer89]

Parents are too negative

Obviously she was old.

Obviously there aren’t approved vaccines for 10 year olds or did I miss the memo?

Did you?

Important to make sure one is doing everything they can to stay in the best shape possible. Any death of a child that young is unfortunate. Just by looking at the picture the article has, she is quite overweight and one knows that does one no favors with a respiratory virus like this. What should the take away be from this besides highly unfortunate? I can sit here all day long and scour the web for anecdotal stories that support my frame of mind. Does this mean it's commonplace? FAR from it. Remember not to get sucked into the anecdotal vortex. You seem to scour the web deeply to find these stories to support your views, ideology, etc.

Joe

First, I quite agree that obesity is a major co-morbidity factor. The stats are pretty clear, though it's just one factor. But a big one. Putting aside that the kid is overweight (probably not obese...yet), mom and dad are definitely obese.

Indeed 2/3 of Americans are overweight or obese, with this increasing as a % with age groups.

But let's be clear, over 19% of children under 18 are indeed actually obese, another, larger, % is overweight. It just gets worse with age as metabolisms naturally slow, sugar additions worsen, etc.

And over 50% of our overall healthcare costs in America are driven by our poor nutritional behaviors, diabetes, heart disease, metabolic disorder, joint pain, some cancers, etc.

This is a very disturbing reality in America today...but that's what it is, a reality, and we're not talking about small numbers of people, including among kids.

And that's not going to change overnight, much as I or we wish otherwise.

I know that you're not dismissing that this child died, an otherwise seemingly healthy, though overweight child, from contracting COVID. Nor do I think that you are dismissing that more will surely die with continuing spread of Covid, especially Delta (and possibly future variants) affecting more kids than Alpha did.

But unless you're clear about that, you could be misunderstood. It's more than merely an anecdote, it's putting faces and personal stories to the actual #'s, which are not insignificant.

And what are these parents asking? Simply that we all do our best to help to reduce spread...eg get vaccinated, wear a mask when inside etc. Don't rail against these efforts and dissuade others from doing the same.

Not at all what I am doing. Kid's 5-11 will be vaccinated in the very short-term future. That;'s all you are asking for... Whether school was in person or virtual, this still (likely) would have happened. It's a shame. Not downplaying anything.

Joe

Well, actually probably would not have happened if school was virtual, but as you know I'm not advocating that as the best policy at this point.

There are other policies that make more sense, given all the costs/benefits. But we do need to actually follow them, encourage others...even insist on others, to follow them.

Much better for the kids (and parents) overall.

Yes, situationally based. That's what I'm advocating. The current situation on Long Island does not call for virtual schooling.

Joe

Where on LI? All the schools operate the same? In CT a couple of towns was 100% in person last year.

https://projects.newsday.com/long-islan ... ng-island/

I said most if not all of LI is in-person. The numbers are quite low here, have been for a while.

Joe

[wgdsr]

suffolk county schools have a mandatory mask policy.

[JoeMauer89]

suffolk county schools have a mandatory mask policy.

Yup, As I believe most Nassau schools but not sure about a mandate here. Laura Curran is against absolute mandates.

Joe

[Typical Lax Dad]

suffolk county schools have a mandatory mask policy.

Wearing mask at home while studying remotely?

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.insider.com/new-york-parent ... 2021-9?amp

If someone called my father and told him I was in trouble at school, I would have had a raw ass at home. Times have changed.

[wgdsr]

suffolk county schools have a mandatory mask policy.

Wearing mask at home while studying remotely?

only in cars remotely.

[JoeMauer89]

suffolk county schools have a mandatory mask policy.

Wearing mask at home while studying remotely?

only in cars remotely.

Joe

[wgdsr]

https://www.insider.com/new-york-parent ... 2021-9?amp

If someone called my father and told him I was in trouble at school, I would have had a raw ass at home. Times have changed.

at our school, teachers get upbraided for taking too long to eat with their masks off or if it slips below their nose. or written up.
students get a pass. wherever. and not told to comply. pretty interesting experiment they're running.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.insider.com/new-york-parent ... 2021-9?amp

If someone called my father and told him I was in trouble at school, I would have had a raw ass at home. Times have changed.

at our school, teachers get upbraided for taking too long to eat with their masks off or if it slips below their nose. or written up.
students get a pass. wherever. and not told to comply. pretty interesting experiment they're running.

Who is running the experiment? You know when the study will be published?

[wgdsr]

https://www.insider.com/new-york-parent ... 2021-9?amp

If someone called my father and told him I was in trouble at school, I would have had a raw ass at home. Times have changed.

at our school, teachers get upbraided for taking too long to eat with their masks off or if it slips below their nose. or written up.
students get a pass. wherever. and not told to comply. pretty interesting experiment they're running.

Who is running the experiment? You know when the study will be published?

we can't wait for results. we're in a pandemic.
#gutinstinct

[Typical Lax Dad]

suffolk county schools have a mandatory mask policy.

Wearing mask at home while studying remotely?

only in cars remotely.

Obviously

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.insider.com/new-york-parent ... 2021-9?amp

If someone called my father and told him I was in trouble at school, I would have had a raw ass at home. Times have changed.

at our school, teachers get upbraided for taking too long to eat with their masks off or if it slips below their nose. or written up.
students get a pass. wherever. and not told to comply. pretty interesting experiment they're running.

Who is running the experiment? You know when the study will be published?

we can't wait for results. we're in a pandemic.
#gutinstinct

So it’s not an experiment?

[wgdsr]

suffolk county schools have a mandatory mask policy.

Wearing mask at home while studying remotely?

only in cars remotely.

Obviously

that looks like mr. bertrand.

[wgdsr]

https://www.insider.com/new-york-parent ... 2021-9?amp

If someone called my father and told him I was in trouble at school, I would have had a raw ass at home. Times have changed.

at our school, teachers get upbraided for taking too long to eat with their masks off or if it slips below their nose. or written up.
students get a pass. wherever. and not told to comply. pretty interesting experiment they're running.

Who is running the experiment? You know when the study will be published?

we can't wait for results. we're in a pandemic.
#gutinstinct

So it’s not an experiment?

no. it's a partisan policy. in our schools. not sure who wins here, but get up every day and press on.

[Typical Lax Dad]

suffolk county schools have a mandatory mask policy.

Wearing mask at home while studying remotely?

only in cars remotely.

Obviously

that looks like mr. bertrand.

Probably is. Hard to pass a note.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.insider.com/new-york-parent ... 2021-9?amp

If someone called my father and told him I was in trouble at school, I would have had a raw ass at home. Times have changed.

at our school, teachers get upbraided for taking too long to eat with their masks off or if it slips below their nose. or written up.
students get a pass. wherever. and not told to comply. pretty interesting experiment they're running.

Who is running the experiment? You know when the study will be published?

we can't wait for results. we're in a pandemic.
#gutinstinct

So it’s not an experiment?

no. it's a partisan policy. in our schools. not sure who wins here, but get up every day and press on.

Huh. I would do anything that may remotely keep kids at school in person. Anything that I could do that wouldn’t add to the problem in anyway. If it means wear a masks even though I don’t need it, I don’t care. I have been subjected to worse things. You ever been patted down every day when you leave a job? I have. Every day. “Sorry I have to do this but…..”. A mask isn’t a big deal if it may help other people.

[wgdsr]

https://www.insider.com/new-york-parent ... 2021-9?amp

If someone called my father and told him I was in trouble at school, I would have had a raw ass at home. Times have changed.

at our school, teachers get upbraided for taking too long to eat with their masks off or if it slips below their nose. or written up.
students get a pass. wherever. and not told to comply. pretty interesting experiment they're running.

Who is running the experiment? You know when the study will be published?

we can't wait for results. we're in a pandemic.
#gutinstinct

So it’s not an experiment?

no. it's a partisan policy. in our schools. not sure who wins here, but get up every day and press on.

Huh. I would do anything that may remotely keep kids at school in person. Anything that I could do that wouldn’t add to the problem in anyway. If it means wear a masks even though I don’t need it, I don’t care. I have been subjected to worse things. You ever been patted down every day when you leave a job? I have. Every day. “Sorry I have to do this but…..”. A mask isn’t a big deal if it may help other people.

so you know where to be packing?

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.insider.com/new-york-parent ... 2021-9?amp

If someone called my father and told him I was in trouble at school, I would have had a raw ass at home. Times have changed.

at our school, teachers get upbraided for taking too long to eat with their masks off or if it slips below their nose. or written up.
students get a pass. wherever. and not told to comply. pretty interesting experiment they're running.

Who is running the experiment? You know when the study will be published?

we can't wait for results. we're in a pandemic.
#gutinstinct

So it’s not an experiment?

no. it's a partisan policy. in our schools. not sure who wins here, but get up every day and press on.

Huh. I would do anything that may remotely keep kids at school in person. Anything that I could do that wouldn’t add to the problem in anyway. If it means wear a masks even though I don’t need it, I don’t care. I have been subjected to worse things. You ever been patted down every day when you leave a job? I have. Every day. “Sorry I have to do this but…..”. A mask isn’t a big deal if it may help other people.

so you know where to be packing?

Yep. It was ridiculous. I could have been a counselor at a camp in New Hampshire with my friends but instead I was getting patted down every day for $3.50 an hour…..