Progressive Ideology

[a fan]

Yeh sure that's what she's talking about. LOL

Great. I'm wrong. Fine.

Tell me what it is you think she's talking about. Give specifics other that "socialism". Tell me what she wants to do that has you so freaked out?

Bernie has three houses and Cortez just moved into the high rent district in DC and allegedly is paying her boyfriend with campaign funds.

So you're telling me that they're capitalists, not socialists? This is bad: how?

[wahoomurf]

How do you fundamentally change the country AND take an oath of office to protect and defend the constitution.

A constitution written to protect the rights of the individual. Not the collective.

Can't happen.

Tell me how you make America Great Again, AND take an oath of office to protect and defend the constitution?


And how is it you figure the Constitution protects the right of the individual, not the collective?

It's literally the other way around. Monarchial England was designed to protect the rights of the individual----the King. The Constitution said "bollocks to that", and made laws that applied to the collective. ALL men. Not just the few chosen by a King.

Wait... wasn't it Mrs Obama that informed us that America was never great in the first place? At least until her hubby was elected she was never proud to live in America. I grew up as a naïve patriotic son of a ww2 vet. I always believed America was great. It took 3 years in the military to beat that concept the hell out of me. Is America great?? who the hell knows? it is now just a subjective meaningless point that has a different response from who ever you ask the question. I was always so very proud that I had the opportunity to serve my country. I am forever disappointed and angry at how the US government used us as pawns in their little popularity contest game. I will always love my fellow soldiers. For as long as I live I will have a great deal of contempt for the people that gave us our walking orders. Is America great? Our people sure are it is our government that drags us down into the gutter of reprobates and criminals pretending to be patriots. man I sure am grumpy now.

I hear you, Doc. Our fathers risked their keisters to stem the rising tide of fascism. I can imagine how pissed and disappointed would be, as I'm sure your father would be as well, knowing the current C of C is a draft dodging quisling and an inveterate apologist for some of the vilest dictators extant.

[wahoomurf]

Yeh sure that's what she's talking about. LOL

Great. I'm wrong. Fine.

Tell me what it is you think she's talking about. Give specifics other that "socialism". Tell me what she wants to do that has you so freaked out?

Bernie has three houses and Cortez just moved into the high rent district in DC and allegedly is paying her boyfriend with campaign funds.

So you're telling me that they're capitalists, not socialists? This is bad: how?

Boo Hoo. This 72" kindling is jealous of anyone who can move into the high-rent district, in the District....ALLEGEDLY! What a low-rent attitude.

[kramerica.inc]

Don't care how Harris got to where she is. Legalizing prostitution, like legalizing some/most drugs, is the right thing to do. You are not going to stop it and trying is a waste of resources, time, money, people, as well as criminalization leads to the profession being much more dangerous.

Couldn't the same be said of all crimes? Otherwize, this is one big shiny neon lite that screams "I am a hypocrite"

Don't care how Harris got to where she is? just shocked to read your comments about how others "got to where they is". Just so MUCH caring when it apples to applies of orange people....ain't it.

It's only the hypocrites honey, just them

Progressives’ social weapon is to promote fake outrage. The left incorrectly thinks being a victim makes their voice louder.

It's why they jumped so quickly and incorrectly over the smiling Covington kids, Brett Kavanaugh, and of course the imaginary "MAGA Country!" Smollett attackers. They want to crucify the right so bad, they resort to grasping at straws. And not surprisingly, Harris, Booker, AOC and others will continue to move with impunity. It's what they do. And despite as horrible as Trump is, it's why they blue wave didn't really materialize like they thought. It's why they have little credibility with voters. They are the party of crying wolf.

[a fan]

Progressives’ social weapon is to promote fake outrage. The left incorrectly thinks being a victim makes their voice louder.

It's why they jumped so quickly and incorrectly over the smiling Covington kids, Brett Kavanaugh, and of course the imaginary "MAGA Country!" Smollett attackers

No. They jumped so quickly and incorrectly because they're American partisans, and our system for both obtaining and properly interpreting news is broken. It has been for a long time.

The right does the same thing----it's called propaganda. They both start with a conclusion "MAGA hats are bad", and work their way toward the "evidence".

They want to crucify the right so bad, they resort to grasping at straws. And not surprisingly, Harris, Booker, AOC and others will continue to move with impunity. It's what they do. And despite as horrible as Trump is, it's why they blue wave didn't really materialize like they thought. It's why they have little credibility with voters. They are the party of crying wolf.

Blue wave didn't materialize because of gerrymandering.

If you're a right winger in America, you better get your *hit together in the next few years. All the right and center has done---both D's and R's---is use government to line the pocket of the 1%. For 30 years.

Example? Name a major piece of legislation that helps the bottom 50% of earners in America that was passed by a Republican Congress. And not just some of them---all of them. From there, how's our budget looking? Can Republican point and say: "see, this is how you run the government. We pay our bills, and we cut spending every year, keeping it fit, trim, and out of the way of capitalism".

Nope. R's are WORSE than D's when it comes to bloated spending. So guess what that does? It makes Bernie and Cortez more appealing. You've trained a generation of America to NOT pay our bills, and to borrow recklessly. So they say "who cares about how we pay for this. We just want it"

This attitude is 100% correct. All you wankers over the age of 60 showed them this path. Don't get upset when they take it, too.

[jhu72]

I think it is hard to argue a blue wave did not take place when the dems picked up 40 house seats in a heavily gerrymandered election.

[holmes435]

Progressives’ social weapon is to promote fake outrage. The left incorrectly thinks being a victim makes their voice louder.

It's why they jumped so quickly and incorrectly over the smiling Covington kids, Brett Kavanaugh, and of course the imaginary "MAGA Country!" Smollett attackers. They want to crucify the right so bad, they resort to grasping at straws. And not surprisingly, Harris, Booker, AOC and others will continue to move with impunity. It's what they do. And despite as horrible as Trump is, it's why they blue wave didn't really materialize like they thought. It's why they have little credibility with voters. They are the party of crying wolf.

You're conveniently ignoring decades of conservative fake outrage.

The war on Christmas? The war on religion? The war on marriage? Just mention abortion and you get foaming at the mouth. Global warming is an attack on capitalism and is redistribution of wealth. Universal healthcare is an attack on capitalism and is redistribution of wealth. Supporting farmers is an attack on capitalism and... well we should support our farmers and rural America. Immigrants are attacking our way of life and taking our jobs. Blacks are going to steal your woman - interracial marriage shouldn't be legalized.

Virtually every single conservative and Republican talking point in the past 5+ decades is about an attack on their way of life. The right has perfected fear-mongering and victimization. It's hilarious, but extremely sad, projection.

The left comes up with lofty ideals and goals which are semi-unrealistic. The right just doubles down on defense most of the time, which does win elections.

The MAGA-wearing conservatives may be getting punched in the mouth here and there, but they aren't getting lynched by the dozens or hundreds, getting tortured and set on fire for being gay, getting murdered for being trans, getting sterilized en masse for being native or being a woman, or any more of many horrific acts. Then you have the less lethal victimization, like not being able to vote, own land, get mortgages, marry someone you love, etc. etc.

Those liberals may step over the line sometimes, but they do have a history of being, you know, actual victims

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poli ... -companies I keep calling it green new steal and damn it if I am not right. What is that phrase triple R loves to say... TAATS. Some of you folks are confused about what is meant when "green" is thrown into the mix. In DC land green has absolutely nothing to do with saving the planet. Green is something you use to pad your bank accounts at the expense of gullible taxpayers.

[cradleandshoot]

Progressives’ social weapon is to promote fake outrage. The left incorrectly thinks being a victim makes their voice louder.

It's why they jumped so quickly and incorrectly over the smiling Covington kids, Brett Kavanaugh, and of course the imaginary "MAGA Country!" Smollett attackers. They want to crucify the right so bad, they resort to grasping at straws. And not surprisingly, Harris, Booker, AOC and others will continue to move with impunity. It's what they do. And despite as horrible as Trump is, it's why they blue wave didn't really materialize like they thought. It's why they have little credibility with voters. They are the party of crying wolf.

You're conveniently ignoring decades of conservative fake outrage.

The war on Christmas? The war on religion? The war on marriage? Just mention abortion and you get foaming at the mouth. Global warming is an attack on capitalism and is redistribution of wealth. Universal healthcare is an attack on capitalism and is redistribution of wealth. Supporting farmers is an attack on capitalism and... well we should support our farmers and rural America. Immigrants are attacking our way of life and taking our jobs. Blacks are going to steal your woman - interracial marriage shouldn't be legalized.

Virtually every single conservative and Republican talking point in the past 5+ decades is about an attack on their way of life. The right has perfected fear-mongering and victimization. It's hilarious, but extremely sad, projection.

The left comes up with lofty ideals and goals which are semi-unrealistic. The right just doubles down on defense most of the time, which does win elections.

The MAGA-wearing conservatives may be getting punched in the mouth here and there, but they aren't getting lynched by the dozens or hundreds, getting tortured and set on fire for being gay, getting murdered for being trans, getting sterilized en masse for being native or being a woman, or any more of many horrific acts. Then you have the less lethal victimization, like not being able to vote, own land, get mortgages, marry someone you love, etc. etc.

Those liberals may step over the line sometimes, but they do have a history of being, you know, actual victims

This may bethe biggest bunch of horsechips you have ever posted. You just made the most asinine analogy I have read in a very long time. Well liberals may be beating the chit out of people... but...but...but those other folks were doing it first. When somebody beats the chit out of you I don't think it really matters to them two figs what the other persons ideology was. Two wrongs will never make a right. The new defense from the crazy left wingers is... hey its no biggie if a few MAGA hat wearing people get their brains beat in... because... well... like... you know... fer sure them other folks did it waaaaaaaay before we did. By the way Holmes... what party was it that had all of the folks doing the lyinching waaaaay back in the day? You seem to have a very short memory... Those beloved Democrats back in the day sure had some funny ways of showing their respect for their fellow man. https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/06/ ... na-charen/ That beloved figure Robert Byrd... he was quite a guy wasn't he Holmes? Beloved Democrat former KKK leading icon of the Democrat party. If you want to tell the story grow a big pair of balls and tell the whole story.

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... riend.html A very nice story but in the very small print AOCs mom left for Florida because it is too damn expensive to try and retire and live in NYS. Imagine that... how is AOC going to fix the very same problem her own mom left the state to get away from? Her mom is not alone. People are leaving NYS in droves once they retire. Why?? because it is too damn expensive to live in NYS on a fixed income. I have 5 more years until I will be joining AOC's own mom in getting the hell out of NYS. My story is not full off candy cotton fluff like this one... but the reason is still the same.

[seacoaster]

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“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

Of course it was intended to create, protect and secure the collective. The principal reason for the Constitutional Convention was to replace the Articles of Confederation, which had served that collective so poorly in the war for independence.

[seacoaster]

I think it is hard to argue a blue wave did not take place when the dems picked up 40 house seats in a heavily gerrymandered election.

Jesus; and 8,000,000 more votes.

[DMac]

You quoting the Bible there, sc?

[njbill]

I believe it is from Two Corinthians.

[runrussellrun]

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“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

Of course it was intended to create, protect and secure the collective. The principal reason for the Constitutional Convention was to replace the Articles of Confederation, which had served that collective so poorly in the war for independence.

Wrong. Pre- US Constitution, the collective were regions of loose cannons. Literally

Please define what "securing the collective" entails? exactly.

(us SHAYSIANS.......all to well.)

[wahoomurf]

Progressives’ social weapon is to promote fake outrage. The left incorrectly thinks being a victim makes their voice louder.

It's why they jumped so quickly and incorrectly over the smiling Covington kids, Brett Kavanaugh, and of course the imaginary "MAGA Country!" Smollett attackers.They want to crucify the right so bad, they resort to grasping at straws. And not surprisingly, Harris, Booker, AOC and others will continue to move with impunity. It's what they do. And despite as horrible as Trump is, it's why they blue wave didn't really materialize like they thought. It's why they have little credibility with voters. They are the party of crying wolf.

Hey Cosmo: Did you study pronouns and SWEEPING generalization in addition to Theology at The Yale Divinity School? And what is the meaning of "They Blue Wave"? ANIMAL, VEGETABLE OR MINERAL? If you thought that pithy phrase is scripture, it sure as hell ain't in Ecclesiastes! Perhaps Corinthians?

As you are fully aware, Harris, Booker, and AOC are MINORITIES. Isn't it just a bit disingenuous for you to suggest "Impunity Acres", the new condo development in Leesburg, might be a proper venue? A scribe from the Post is looking into claims that "I. A." is NOT a welcoming place for "those people". But I'm sure you knew that.

And who are you trying to fool..."AS HORRIBLE AS TRUMP IS"? PLEEZZZE. For a person as devout as you, making such a statement is naughty and sinful.

Heed the words of Tammy and George...."God's gonna getcha for that".

[cradleandshoot]

Read first; post later:

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

Of course it was intended to create, protect and secure the collective. The principal reason for the Constitutional Convention was to replace the Articles of Confederation, which had served that collective so poorly in the war for independence.

And that is why the United States Constitution is not a living, breathing document to be interpreted by every swinging dick that rolls along. Our founding fathers incorporated a process to amend the constitution when it was needed. Where our constitution has imperfections our founding fathers gave us a mechanism to correct it. Do any of you even understand how that process works? You don't bastardize the constitution because you don't like how it was written. You amend the constitution to tweak where our founding fathers got it wrong.

[MDlaxfan76]

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“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

Of course it was intended to create, protect and secure the collective. The principal reason for the Constitutional Convention was to replace the Articles of Confederation, which had served that collective so poorly in the war for independence.

And that is why the United States Constitution is not a living, breathing document to be interpreted by every swinging dick that rolls along. Our founding fathers incorporated a process to amend the constitution when it was needed. Where our constitution has imperfections our founding fathers gave us a mechanism to correct it. Do any of you even understand how that process works? You don't bastardize the constitution because you don't like how it was written. You amend the constitution to tweak where our founding fathers got it wrong.

Huh?

[MDlaxfan76]

Progressives’ social weapon is to promote fake outrage. The left incorrectly thinks being a victim makes their voice louder.

It's why they jumped so quickly and incorrectly over the smiling Covington kids, Brett Kavanaugh, and of course the imaginary "MAGA Country!" Smollett attackers. They want to crucify the right so bad, they resort to grasping at straws. And not surprisingly, Harris, Booker, AOC and others will continue to move with impunity. It's what they do. And despite as horrible as Trump is, it's why they blue wave didn't really materialize like they thought. It's why they have little credibility with voters. They are the party of crying wolf.

You're conveniently ignoring decades of conservative fake outrage.

The war on Christmas? The war on religion? The war on marriage? Just mention abortion and you get foaming at the mouth. Global warming is an attack on capitalism and is redistribution of wealth. Universal healthcare is an attack on capitalism and is redistribution of wealth. Supporting farmers is an attack on capitalism and... well we should support our farmers and rural America. Immigrants are attacking our way of life and taking our jobs. Blacks are going to steal your woman - interracial marriage shouldn't be legalized.

Virtually every single conservative and Republican talking point in the past 5+ decades is about an attack on their way of life. The right has perfected fear-mongering and victimization. It's hilarious, but extremely sad, projection.

The left comes up with lofty ideals and goals which are semi-unrealistic. The right just doubles down on defense most of the time, which does win elections.

The MAGA-wearing conservatives may be getting punched in the mouth here and there, but they aren't getting lynched by the dozens or hundreds, getting tortured and set on fire for being gay, getting murdered for being trans, getting sterilized en masse for being native or being a woman, or any more of many horrific acts. Then you have the less lethal victimization, like not being able to vote, own land, get mortgages, marry someone you love, etc. etc.

Those liberals may step over the line sometimes, but they do have a history of being, you know, actual victims

This may bethe biggest bunch of horsechips you have ever posted. You just made the most asinine analogy I have read in a very long time. Well liberals may be beating the chit out of people... but...but...but those other folks were doing it first. When somebody beats the chit out of you I don't think it really matters to them two figs what the other persons ideology was. Two wrongs will never make a right. The new defense from the crazy left wingers is... hey its no biggie if a few MAGA hat wearing people get their brains beat in... because... well... like... you know... fer sure them other folks did it waaaaaaaay before we did. By the way Holmes... what party was it that had all of the folks doing the lyinching waaaaay back in the day? You seem to have a very short memory... Those beloved Democrats back in the day sure had some funny ways of showing their respect for their fellow man. https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/06/ ... na-charen/ That beloved figure Robert Byrd... he was quite a guy wasn't he Holmes? Beloved Democrat former KKK leading icon of the Democrat party. If you want to tell the story grow a big pair of balls and tell the whole story.

You seem headed for Bandito territory cradle.

[foreverlax]

Read first; post later:

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

Of course it was intended to create, protect and secure the collective. The principal reason for the Constitutional Convention was to replace the Articles of Confederation, which had served that collective so poorly in the war for independence.

And that is why the United States Constitution is not a living, breathing document to be interpreted by every swinging dick that rolls along. Our founding fathers incorporated a process to amend the constitution when it was needed. Where our constitution has imperfections our founding fathers gave us a mechanism to correct it. Do any of you even understand how that process works? You don't bastardize the constitution because you don't like how it was written. You amend the constitution to tweak where our founding fathers got it wrong.

So, since you can change it, it is living....kinda like losing weight the proper way, little bit at time, over time