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See? That (infinitesimal) change in tone makes a difference...that wasn't so hard now, was it?

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dislaxxic wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:31 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:57 pm Above, you seem to be under the belief, that this strange Colorado Congressperson violated gun laws.

What are you basing that on, the "magazine.....illegal since....." part ? Dude, ever hear of grandfathered.

She broke no laws? Can you name just one, that she broke? you "go to" source uses words like "possibly", "could", etc.

I love you......even this you will read as an attack.......outsourcing my lameness.
See, the whole tone of this screed is "you dumb and mis-guided, me know what's best, rube" You just a stinkin' Fake Librul!

Tone, Fatty, your TONE is just all wrong most of the time, non-stop confrontational and "i told you so, you lame TAATS fake leftists"...

As to the law she broke? NAMED

Back to your regularly scheduled blunt, broceph...

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Nah...the tone was set my those you associate with. Why the F is salon watching video's of 8 year olds, at all. We can stop, and end, with that creepy aspect of the story.

Oh gee.....can't find any video to watch, disslax. Gee, why is that ? bc it's child porn, sicko's ( Beuberts son rubbing and showing off his abdomin )

I mean, what the heck......is wrong with you people.

The HIGH power rifle? From your link ? goodness, its a shotgun, not a rifle.

and, again, why can't we see any pictures or video of an 8 year old boy, we should just take the pedophile creeps at Salons word for it.

Yeah....the tone, alright. What kind of "tone" are you setting with this kind of junk, perverted, child sex ring feel story to it.

All lies. And, thankfully, we can't watch the video. Oh boy, you really proved your argument there, disslax. Even looks like , in the picture, it has a trigger lock on it. What else could that dark, projection sideways in the trigger, area be ?

I realize replies aren't necessary. B/c, I dislike fake news, lies and junk "hit" pieces like this........I support the person who is being attacked.

wrong is wrong. What does YOUR religion teach ?
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dislaxxic wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:50 pm See? That (infinitesimal) change in tone makes a difference...that wasn't so hard now, was it?

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Nah.......like that Taylor Swift song.......been here the whole tyme.

It's you and others that come out swinging with silly comments and "ignore" chest thumping.

That tone, don't matter, eh ;)
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Re: Conservative Ideology

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runrussellrun wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:57 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:27 am
seacoaster wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:12 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:06 am
dislaxxic wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:04 am Lauren Boebert allows 8-year-old to play alone, next to possibly-loaded firearm

Ohh, those wacky wepubwicans...

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireSto ... s-78971411

So what say you about the Rochester mayor? You opened up this can of worms jaundiced boy. The mayor of the city of Rochester had an unregistered, loaded handgun in her bedroom with her 10 year old daughter alone in the house. Does that also ruffle your feathers mr dis? Come on tough guy, enlighten me more or just admit your a hypocrite and just STFU.
Bad gun safety and unlawful gun possession seem to me to be unrelated to political party: all bad.
Me too.
Has nothing to do with political party as to whether it's bad.

My only question to cradle would be as to whether the Rochester Mayor's political branding was all about brandishing AK's and handguns and 2nd Amendment. Yet spouting off about how gun accidents in home are due to people who are uneducated or those that think they know everything...yet, here we see exactly how such happens.
Above, you seem to be under the belief, that this strange Colorado Congressperson violated gun laws.

What are you basing that on, the "magazine.....illegal since....." part ? Dude, ever hear of grandfathered.

She broke no laws? Can you name just one, that she broke? you "go to" source uses words like "possibly", "could", etc.

I love you......even this you will read as an attack.......outsourcing my lameness.
Yes, she's violating Colorado gun safety laws (and common sense).
https://coloradosun.com/2021/04/19/new- ... -colorado/

This didn't take more than three seconds to find. The original article cited that she was clearly in violation of Colorado law. As I'd actually read the article, I already knew that.

It has nothing to do with "grandfathered"; the guns aren't safely stored. They aren't antiques. Nothing to do with loaded or unloaded. And yeah, the kid is very definitely "ineligible". All this other nonsense is merely distracting nonsense, so why all the vitriol....and you claim you're not a Boebert fanboy? How would we tell?

Starting on July 1, Coloradans who own guns will be required to store their weapons in a gun safe or with a trigger or cable lock when the owner knows or should reasonably know that a “juvenile or a resident who is ineligible to possess a firearm can gain access to the firearm.”
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:25 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:57 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:27 am
seacoaster wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:12 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:06 am
dislaxxic wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:04 am Lauren Boebert allows 8-year-old to play alone, next to possibly-loaded firearm

Ohh, those wacky wepubwicans...

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireSto ... s-78971411

So what say you about the Rochester mayor? You opened up this can of worms jaundiced boy. The mayor of the city of Rochester had an unregistered, loaded handgun in her bedroom with her 10 year old daughter alone in the house. Does that also ruffle your feathers mr dis? Come on tough guy, enlighten me more or just admit your a hypocrite and just STFU.
Bad gun safety and unlawful gun possession seem to me to be unrelated to political party: all bad.
Me too.
Has nothing to do with political party as to whether it's bad.

My only question to cradle would be as to whether the Rochester Mayor's political branding was all about brandishing AK's and handguns and 2nd Amendment. Yet spouting off about how gun accidents in home are due to people who are uneducated or those that think they know everything...yet, here we see exactly how such happens.
Above, you seem to be under the belief, that this strange Colorado Congressperson violated gun laws.

What are you basing that on, the "magazine.....illegal since....." part ? Dude, ever hear of grandfathered.

She broke no laws? Can you name just one, that she broke? you "go to" source uses words like "possibly", "could", etc.

I love you......even this you will read as an attack.......outsourcing my lameness.
Yes, she's violating Colorado gun safety laws (and common sense).
https://coloradosun.com/2021/04/19/new- ... -colorado/

This didn't take more than three seconds to find. The original article cited that she was clearly in violation of Colorado law. As I'd actually read the article, I already knew that.

It has nothing to do with "grandfathered"; the guns aren't safely stored. They aren't antiques. Nothing to do with loaded or unloaded. And yeah, the kid is very definitely "ineligible". All this other nonsense is merely distracting nonsense, so why all the vitriol....and you claim you're not a Boebert fanboy? How would we tell?

Starting on July 1, Coloradans who own guns will be required to store their weapons in a gun safe or with a trigger or cable lock when the owner knows or should reasonably know that a “juvenile or a resident who is ineligible to possess a firearm can gain access to the firearm.”
Now you are just trolling.

Please read my response. above.

the fact that you chimed in, without bothering to read anyone elses post, is a problem. How trolls act.
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Re: Conservative Ideology

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runrussellrun wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:34 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:25 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:57 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:27 am
seacoaster wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:12 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:06 am
dislaxxic wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:04 am Lauren Boebert allows 8-year-old to play alone, next to possibly-loaded firearm

Ohh, those wacky wepubwicans...

..
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireSto ... s-78971411

So what say you about the Rochester mayor? You opened up this can of worms jaundiced boy. The mayor of the city of Rochester had an unregistered, loaded handgun in her bedroom with her 10 year old daughter alone in the house. Does that also ruffle your feathers mr dis? Come on tough guy, enlighten me more or just admit your a hypocrite and just STFU.
Bad gun safety and unlawful gun possession seem to me to be unrelated to political party: all bad.
Me too.
Has nothing to do with political party as to whether it's bad.

My only question to cradle would be as to whether the Rochester Mayor's political branding was all about brandishing AK's and handguns and 2nd Amendment. Yet spouting off about how gun accidents in home are due to people who are uneducated or those that think they know everything...yet, here we see exactly how such happens.
Above, you seem to be under the belief, that this strange Colorado Congressperson violated gun laws.

What are you basing that on, the "magazine.....illegal since....." part ? Dude, ever hear of grandfathered.

She broke no laws? Can you name just one, that she broke? you "go to" source uses words like "possibly", "could", etc.

I love you......even this you will read as an attack.......outsourcing my lameness.
Yes, she's violating Colorado gun safety laws (and common sense).
https://coloradosun.com/2021/04/19/new- ... -colorado/

This didn't take more than three seconds to find. The original article cited that she was clearly in violation of Colorado law. As I'd actually read the article, I already knew that.

It has nothing to do with "grandfathered"; the guns aren't safely stored. They aren't antiques. Nothing to do with loaded or unloaded. And yeah, the kid is very definitely "ineligible". All this other nonsense is merely distracting nonsense, so why all the vitriol....and you claim you're not a Boebert fanboy? How would we tell?

Starting on July 1, Coloradans who own guns will be required to store their weapons in a gun safe or with a trigger or cable lock when the owner knows or should reasonably know that a “juvenile or a resident who is ineligible to possess a firearm can gain access to the firearm.”
Now you are just trolling.

Please read my response. above.

the fact that you chimed in, without bothering to read anyone elses post, is a problem. How trolls act.
"chimed in"??? You challenged me directly, were talking specifically to me.

Which disjointed rant do you want me to read? Child porn one?

Why are you defending Boebert?
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Re: Conservative Ideology

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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:46 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:34 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:25 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:57 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:27 am
seacoaster wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:12 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:06 am
dislaxxic wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:04 am Lauren Boebert allows 8-year-old to play alone, next to possibly-loaded firearm

Ohh, those wacky wepubwicans...

..
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireSto ... s-78971411

So what say you about the Rochester mayor? You opened up this can of worms jaundiced boy. The mayor of the city of Rochester had an unregistered, loaded handgun in her bedroom with her 10 year old daughter alone in the house. Does that also ruffle your feathers mr dis? Come on tough guy, enlighten me more or just admit your a hypocrite and just STFU.
Bad gun safety and unlawful gun possession seem to me to be unrelated to political party: all bad.
Me too.
Has nothing to do with political party as to whether it's bad.

My only question to cradle would be as to whether the Rochester Mayor's political branding was all about brandishing AK's and handguns and 2nd Amendment. Yet spouting off about how gun accidents in home are due to people who are uneducated or those that think they know everything...yet, here we see exactly how such happens.
Above, you seem to be under the belief, that this strange Colorado Congressperson violated gun laws.

What are you basing that on, the "magazine.....illegal since....." part ? Dude, ever hear of grandfathered.

She broke no laws? Can you name just one, that she broke? you "go to" source uses words like "possibly", "could", etc.

I love you......even this you will read as an attack.......outsourcing my lameness.
Yes, she's violating Colorado gun safety laws (and common sense).
https://coloradosun.com/2021/04/19/new- ... -colorado/

This didn't take more than three seconds to find. The original article cited that she was clearly in violation of Colorado law. As I'd actually read the article, I already knew that.

It has nothing to do with "grandfathered"; the guns aren't safely stored. They aren't antiques. Nothing to do with loaded or unloaded. And yeah, the kid is very definitely "ineligible". All this other nonsense is merely distracting nonsense, so why all the vitriol....and you claim you're not a Boebert fanboy? How would we tell?

Starting on July 1, Coloradans who own guns will be required to store their weapons in a gun safe or with a trigger or cable lock when the owner knows or should reasonably know that a “juvenile or a resident who is ineligible to possess a firearm can gain access to the firearm.”
Now you are just trolling.

Please read my response. above.

the fact that you chimed in, without bothering to read anyone elses post, is a problem. How trolls act.
"chimed in"??? You challenged me directly, were talking specifically to me.

Which disjointed rant do you want me to read? Child porn one?

Why are you defending Boebert?
No matter what I write, you will say "defending" It a fake story. She violated NO Colorado gun laws. the shotgun has a trigger lock on it, Foolish story.

again, as I wrote above, I am deflating the fake news story, based on the creeps at SALON (who "broke" the story via watching an 8 year old boy showing off his mid drifts, on tictoc :roll: ....so YEAH...child porn. )

Perhaps you should respect others (in this case Bart/disslax) and read his entire link. What was the purpose of adding that the 8 year old boy showed off his 6 pack ? What journalistic relevence does it have to a gun not stored properly angle ?

Seriuosly, you defending child porn.

Anyone that bashes Q theory thing, supports child porn.

Unless Q ananon PRIMARY purpose is NOT to end human/child, sex trafficking. Yeah, sounds like a horrible group. They want to stop a horrible crime.

Think about it.

Do you NOT see a shotgun, with a trigger lock, next to the bed and humidifier on the table?
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runrussellrun wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:54 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:46 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:34 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:25 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:57 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:27 am
seacoaster wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:12 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:06 am
dislaxxic wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:04 am Lauren Boebert allows 8-year-old to play alone, next to possibly-loaded firearm

Ohh, those wacky wepubwicans...

..
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireSto ... s-78971411

So what say you about the Rochester mayor? You opened up this can of worms jaundiced boy. The mayor of the city of Rochester had an unregistered, loaded handgun in her bedroom with her 10 year old daughter alone in the house. Does that also ruffle your feathers mr dis? Come on tough guy, enlighten me more or just admit your a hypocrite and just STFU.
Bad gun safety and unlawful gun possession seem to me to be unrelated to political party: all bad.
Me too.
Has nothing to do with political party as to whether it's bad.

My only question to cradle would be as to whether the Rochester Mayor's political branding was all about brandishing AK's and handguns and 2nd Amendment. Yet spouting off about how gun accidents in home are due to people who are uneducated or those that think they know everything...yet, here we see exactly how such happens.
Above, you seem to be under the belief, that this strange Colorado Congressperson violated gun laws.

What are you basing that on, the "magazine.....illegal since....." part ? Dude, ever hear of grandfathered.

She broke no laws? Can you name just one, that she broke? you "go to" source uses words like "possibly", "could", etc.

I love you......even this you will read as an attack.......outsourcing my lameness.
Yes, she's violating Colorado gun safety laws (and common sense).
https://coloradosun.com/2021/04/19/new- ... -colorado/

This didn't take more than three seconds to find. The original article cited that she was clearly in violation of Colorado law. As I'd actually read the article, I already knew that.

It has nothing to do with "grandfathered"; the guns aren't safely stored. They aren't antiques. Nothing to do with loaded or unloaded. And yeah, the kid is very definitely "ineligible". All this other nonsense is merely distracting nonsense, so why all the vitriol....and you claim you're not a Boebert fanboy? How would we tell?

Starting on July 1, Coloradans who own guns will be required to store their weapons in a gun safe or with a trigger or cable lock when the owner knows or should reasonably know that a “juvenile or a resident who is ineligible to possess a firearm can gain access to the firearm.”
Now you are just trolling.

Please read my response. above.

the fact that you chimed in, without bothering to read anyone elses post, is a problem. How trolls act.
"chimed in"??? You challenged me directly, were talking specifically to me.

Which disjointed rant do you want me to read? Child porn one?

Why are you defending Boebert?
No matter what I write, you will say "defending" It a fake story. She violated NO Colorado gun laws. the shotgun has a trigger lock on it, Foolish story.

again, as I wrote above, I am deflating the fake news story, based on the creeps at SALON (who "broke" the story via watching an 8 year old boy showing off his mid drifts, on tictoc :roll: ....so YEAH...child porn. )

Perhaps you should respect others (in this case Bart/disslax) and read his entire link. What was the purpose of adding that the 8 year old boy showed off his 6 pack ? What journalistic relevence does it have to a gun not stored properly angle ?

Seriuosly, you defending child porn.

Anyone that bashes Q theory thing, supports child porn.

Unless Q ananon PRIMARY purpose is NOT to end human/child, sex trafficking. Yeah, sounds like a horrible group. They want to stop a horrible crime.

Think about it.

Do you NOT see a shotgun, with a trigger lock, next to the bed and humidifier on the table?
No I do not see any trigger lock, neither on the long gun leaned against the wall nor handgun on the floor.

Ok, I'm going to ask...are you a QAnon follower/supporter?
You certainly appear to say so above.
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He’s still trying to find comet pizza
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Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
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In regards to "follow" :

Whom, or what (narrative, philosophy, doctrine ) am I , umm, following ?

Q is completely non existent entee. (say with southern accent ) ....no more real, no less, than my group, or yours.

Or the lil private group right here ;)

A group, even if the NOI (nation of islam, whose doctrine is hate) any group, that wants to end child sexual predatation........and the fact that ,so far, you haven't addressed why the article from Salon, or whomever, decided to include a video of a young male, baring his middrifts, which, to me, is child porn, Sick. Was added. And you don't seem to care that the "gun" fake crime, was from a video of an 8 year old boy, or rather , boys.

Also, and I would choke out any "boss" that assigned me that crap ass story at Salon. Clowns......oh boy....now I AM ranting...you've got me monologging.

So, yeah, mdlaxfan, I could understand why someone would support Q anon. As far as I can tell, that is Q's mission statement and primary issue, ending child sex trafficking.

The real Question is: Why is that such a bad thing to support?

But, whatever, Q doesn't exist. Sexual predatation does, and Salon just proved. In fact, someone atta get on the phone to someone about that video.

I mean, what is a 20 something doing watching a bunch of 8 year old boys, topless, in the first place.

YES.....please , keep on running with your fake, she broke the law video, b/c, hey, maybe that IS a trigger lock on the shotgun....NOT a high powered rifle.

dude....same a pos shiite ex potusa trump.......plenty of real stuff to discuss. Apparently, game set N match for YOU, on this woman. Maybe she is pandering to her base, and behind the scenes something else. Doubt it, but willing to give her the benefit of.

Not going to dismiss her as some "idiot" because likes gun. That is for you hypocrites that love them some violent gun entertainment, and better yet, gun stock ownership ( M.I.C. ) , and theatrics with the Trump stuff. However, fair is fair, and Salon crossed the line, committing child porn to get this "story". And than, idiotically, c,alled a shotgun, with a trigger lock on it, an unsecured high powered rifle. nope, and nope. And the law, clearly states "ineligible". Chances are, the 8 year old new the combo on the trigger lock.......so, the 8 year old is eligible. Not a crime.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:25 pm He’s still trying to find comet pizza
didn't you eat there.....and often With frozen tiny dancer, Fransen ?
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runrussellrun wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:37 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:25 pm He’s still trying to find comet pizza
didn't you eat there.....and often With frozen tiny dancer, Fransen ?
I lives very close by, adjacent corner, for like 4 years. It moved next to politics and prose, taking over a former Thai joint, and across from a gas station I was cocnerned about because John Lee Malvo and the other guy were shooting cats at gas stations very near by in NW DC near CC & Bethesda.

Otherwise the rest of your note is moronic
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:43 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:37 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:25 pm He’s still trying to find comet pizza
didn't you eat there.....and often With frozen tiny dancer, Fransen ?
I lives very close by, adjacent corner, for like 4 years. It moved next to politics and prose, taking over a former Thai joint, and across from a gas station I was cocnerned about because John Lee Malvo and the other guy were shooting cats at gas stations very near by in NW DC near CC & Bethesda.

Otherwise the rest of your note is moronic
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Conservative Republicans used to call themselves the party of morals, principles, and of family values. Thankfully, they no longer do so because of all the sex scandals and other forms of degeneracy that they have done. Sure enough, still another conservative Republican is caught in yet another scandal:


Judge kills himself moments before arrest over hidden bathroom camera accusations


Investigators say Jonathan Newell swallowed camera’s memory card before being questioned


A judge killed himself moments before he was to have been arrested on allegations he had a hidden camera that captured images of naked boys in his bathroom.

Jonathan Newell, 50, had been on leave from his role as a circuit judge in Maryland’s Caroline County since July after allegations were made against him.

When FBI agents arrived at his home in Henderson, Maryland, on Friday morning to arrest him on a federal criminal complaint they found him “suffering from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.”

The Maryland US Attorney’s Office confirmed that the judge had been pronounced dead at 6.43am.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 18239.html



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seacoaster wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:51 am JD Vance; just a disgrace:

https://twitter.com/JDVancePress/status ... 2957640707

Vance forgets that the Congress empowered the Executive to impose strictures that promote health and safety in the workplace through the Occupational and safety Act: https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/oshact/completeoshact
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Brooklyn wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:11 am
seacoaster wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:51 am JD Vance; just a disgrace:

https://twitter.com/JDVancePress/status ... 2957640707

Vance forgets that the Congress empowered the Executive to impose strictures that promote health and safety in the workplace through the Occupational and safety Act: https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/oshact/completeoshact
He doesn't "forget" anything, he's gone full on pander. It's a shame as he had the capability to be a moderate, thoughtful spokesperson for 'fly over country' issues and needs.

He's a smart, informed guy...but pandering hard right.
Failure of character.
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This is today's GOP -- compromising democracy wherever and whenever:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/12/us/p ... ecall.html

"The results of the California recall election won’t be known until Tuesday night. But some Republicans are already predicting victory for the Democrat, Gov. Gavin Newsom, for a reason that should sound familiar.

Voter fraud.

Soon after the recall race was announced in early July, the embers of 2020 election denialism ignited into new false claims on right-wing news sites and social media channels. This vote, too, would supposedly be “stolen,” with malfeasance ranging from deceptively designed ballots to nefariousness by corrupt postal workers.

As a wave of recent polling indicated that Mr. Newsom was likely to brush off his Republican challengers, the baseless allegations accelerated. Larry Elder, a leading Republican candidate, said he was “concerned” about election fraud. The Fox News commentators Tomi Lahren and Tucker Carlson suggested that wrongdoing was the only way Mr. Newsom could win. And former President Donald J. Trump predicted that it would be “a rigged election.”

This swift embrace of false allegations of cheating in the California recall reflects a growing instinct on the right to argue that any lost election, or any ongoing race that might result in defeat, must be marred by fraud. The relentless falsehoods spread by Mr. Trump and his allies about the 2020 election have only fueled such fears.

“I very honestly believe there were irregularities and fraudulent activity,” Elena Johnson, 65, a teacher in Los Angeles County who was in the crowd at a rally for Mr. Elder last week in Ventura County, said of the presidential contest last year. “It was stolen.”

Because of her concerns about voter fraud in the 2020 election, Ms. Johnson said, she would be casting her ballot in person on Tuesday instead of by mail. She said she was supporting the Republican because she thought California, her adopted home after immigrating from the Philippines 40 years ago, was on the brink. “California is where I came, and California is where I want to stay,” she said.

Since the start of the recall, allegations of election fraud have been simmering on social media in California, with daily mentions in the low thousands, according to a review by Zignal Labs, a media tracking agency.

But singular claims or conspiracy theories, such as a selectively edited video purporting to show that people with a post office “master key” could steal ballots, have quickly ricocheted around the broader conservative ecosystem. The post office video surpassed one million views, amplified by high-profile Trump allies and members of the conservative news media.

Nationally, Republican candidates who deny the outcomes of their elections remain outliers. Hundreds of G.O.P. candidates up and down the ballot in 2020 accepted their defeats. But at the same time, many of them joined Mr. Trump in the assault on the presidential race’s outcome, and in other recent election cycles, candidates, their allies and the conservative news media have increasingly expressed doubts about the validity of the electoral process.

And while false claims of wrongdoing have long emerged in the days and weeks after elections, Republicans’ quick turn in advance of the California recall — a race that was always going to be a long shot for them in a deep-blue state — signals the growing normalization of crying fraud.

“This is baked into the playbook now,” said Michael Latner, an associate professor of political science at California Polytechnic Institute. As soon as the recall was official, he added, “you already started to see stories and individuals on social media claiming that, you know, they received five ballots or their uncle received five ballots.”

Some Republican leaders and strategists around the country worry that it is a losing message. While such claims may stoke up the base, leaders fear that repeatedly telling voters that the election is rigged and their votes will not count could have a suppressive effect, leading some potential Republican voters to stay home.

They point to the Senate runoff elections early this year in Georgia, where two Republican incumbents, Senators Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, were ousted by first-time Democratic challengers. Though the state had just voted Democratic in the presidential election for the first time in decades, the Senate races were seen as an even taller task for Democrats.

But in the months after the November general election, Mr. Trump fired off countless attacks against the legitimacy of the Georgia contests, floating conspiracy theories and castigating the Republican secretary of state and governor for not acquiescing to his desire to subvert the presidential election. When the runoffs came, more than 752,000 Georgians who had voted in November did not cast ballots, according to a review by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. More than half of those voters were from constituencies that lean toward Republican candidates, the review found.

“The person that they most admired in their conservative beliefs was telling them that their vote didn’t count,” said Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan of Georgia, a Republican, referring to Mr. Trump. “And then the next day he would tell him that the election was rigged, and then the next day he would tell them, ‘Why even show up?’ And they didn’t. And that alone was enough to swing the election to the Democrat side.”

“This whole notion about fraud and elections,” Mr. Duncan continued, “it’s a shiny object that quite honestly is about trying to save face and not own reality.”

Republican officials in California have performed a balancing act, trying to acknowledge their voters’ worries about fraud while ensuring that the same voters trust the state’s vote-by-mail system enough to cast a ballot. Party officials have promoted mail voting on social media, and have leaned on popular members of Republican leadership, including Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the minority leader, to cut videos preaching the security of voting by mail.

But some leading Republicans in the state have simultaneously denounced a bill passed by the State Legislature this month that would permanently enact a mail voting expansion that was introduced as an emergency measure in 2020. Republicans in the Legislature have continued to baselessly claim that mail voting invites fraud and that drop boxes remain unsecure.

“I can tell you story after story in my district,” State Senator Shannon Grove, a Republican from Bakersfield, said during a floor debate this month. She added that the Democrats who dominate the chamber would admit they had also heard complaints “if you guys were honest.”

The state Republican Party has also ramped up what it calls an election integrity operation, which aims to recruit more poll watchers and is directing voters to a hotline to send in complaints of fraud. The program, according to Jessica Millan Patterson, the chair of the state party, was designed to assure voters that the California election would be secure.

“My entire focus,” Ms. Patterson said in an interview, “is to build trust and faith within our process and make sure people are confident.” She added that she was not paying attention to the national conversation about voter fraud and that she was not worried about the Republican effort hurting turnout because “our No. 1 turnout operation is having Gavin Newsom as our governor every day.”

“I’ve always focused on California; everything outside of that is noise,” Ms. Patterson said. “We have to fix our own house before we can worry about what’s going on at the national level.”

Mr. Elder, the Republican challenger to Mr. Newsom who has claimed without evidence that there will be “shenanigans” in the voting process, has also set up a tip line for voters to offer evidence of fraud.

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A monthslong campaign. During his last days in office, President Donald J. Trump and his allies undertook an increasingly urgent effort to undermine the election results. That wide-ranging campaign included perpetuating false and thoroughly debunked claims of election fraud as well as pressing government officials for help.

Baseless claims of voter fraud. Although Mr. Trump’s allegations of a stolen election have died in the courts and election officials of both parties from every state have said there is no evidence of fraud, Republicans across the country continued to spread conspiracy theories. Those include 147 House Republicans who voted against certifying the election.

Intervention at the Justice Department. Rebuffed by ranking Republicans and cabinet officials like Attorney General William P. Barr, who stepped down weeks before his tenure was to end, Mr. Trump sought other avenues to peddle his unfounded claims. In a bid to advance his personal agenda, Mr. Trump plotted to oust the acting attorney general and pressed top officials to declare that the election was corrupt. His chief of staff pushed the department to investigate an array of outlandish and unfounded conspiracy theories that held that Mr. Trump had been the victor.

Pressuring state officials to 'find votes.' As the president continued to refuse to concede the election, his most loyal backers proclaimed Jan. 6, when Congress convened to formalize Mr. Biden's electoral victory, as a day of reckoning. On that day, Mr. Trump delivered an incendiary speech to thousands of his supporters hours before a mob of loyalists violently stormed the Capitol.

“We have a voter integrity board all set up — most of these are lawyers,” Mr. Elder said last week, according to CNN. “So when people hear things, they contact us. We’re going to file lawsuits in a timely fashion.”

The operations run by Mr. Elder and the California Republican Party closely resemble the one that the Trump campaign set up with the national G.O.P. during the 2020 campaign, which sought to recruit an “army” of poll watchers and prompted worries about intimidation of voters.

Some experts say that the rising popularity of such so-called election integrity operations risks further eroding trust in elections.

“The narrative that we need to build an electoral integrity force that is distinct from the state, and distinct from election officials, I think serves to undermine, and is designed to undermine, the credibility of professional election administrators,” Dr. Latner said.

These groups, he added, make it difficult “for election scientists and election administrators to work together and identify the real problems that we have with electoral integrity. Because there are real problems that need attention and need resources. They’re just not the ones that these people are complaining about.”

Mr. Elder initially staked out a position counter to those in his party who are focused on claims of fraud, telling a left-leaning editorial board over a month ago that President Biden had won fairly last year. But after his campaign began to garner attention, he quickly reversed his position, telling conservative radio interviewers last month, “No, I don’t.”
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