Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

[old salt]

AP reporting :

Afghan evacuation raises concerns about child trafficking

By MATTHEW LEE - AP Diplomatic Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. officials are looking into reports that in the frantic evacuation of desperate Afghans from Kabul, older men were admitted together with young girls they claimed as “brides” or otherwise sexually abused.

U.S. officials at intake centers in the United Arab Emirates and in Wisconsin have identified numerous incidents in which Afghan girls have been presented to authorities as the “wives” of much older men. While child marriage is not uncommon in Afghanistan, the U.S. has strict policies against human trafficking that include prosecutions for offenders and sanctions for countries that don't crack down on it.

One internal document seen by The Associated Press says the State Department has sought “urgent guidance” from other agencies after purported child brides were brought to Fort McCoy in Wisconsin. Another document, described to the AP by officials familiar with it, says Afghan girls at a transit site in Abu Dhabi have alleged they have been raped by older men they were forced to marry in order to escape Afghanistan.

The State Department had no immediate comment on the documents or the veracity of the details in them. Officials say that they take all such allegations seriously but that many of them are anecdotal and difficult to prove, particularly amid the crush of Afghan evacuees at multiple locations in the Middle East, Europe and the United States.

An Aug. 27 situation report sent to all U.S. embassies and consulates abroad as well as military command centers in Florida points to potential issues involving young girls and older men, some of whom claim to have more than one wife at Fort McCoy, a sprawling 60,000-acre (243-square-kilometer) Army base in Wisconsin. Relevant portions of the document, titled "Afghanistan Task Force SitRep No. 63," were obtained by the AP.

“Intake staff at Fort McCoy reported multiple cases of minor females who presented as ‘married’ to adult Afghan men, as well as polygamous families," the document says. “Department of State has requested urgent guidance.”

There was no immediate indication from the military or from the departments of homeland security and health and human services, which run the facility, that such guidance had been received.

At the same time, U.S. officials in the United Arab Emirates have expressed similar concerns, sending a diplomatic cable to Washington warning that some young Afghan girls had been forced into marriages in order to escape Afghanistan after the Taliban takeover.

Officials familiar with the cable say it describes allegations by several girls at the Humanitarian City in Abu Dhabi that they had been sexually assaulted by their “husbands” and seeks guidance on how to handle such cases. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss internal communications.

Copyright 2021 The Associated Press.

[old salt]

On FNC : LtGen Kieth Kellogg, VP Pence's National Security Advisor on Trump's Afghan plan :

...developed since Feb 2017. We finally had a plan that was a workable plan. It was not a perfect plan, but it was workable. Over 16 mos ago we put this plan in place, that would ensure that we had a peaceful solution through a series of gates for getting out of Afghanistan. The last gate was a govt of reconciliation between the Taliban & the Ghani govt, which was supported by 2.500 US troops, several thousand paramilitaries supported by the CIA under Gina Haspel. We would have left air power in place, kept Bagram air base open & we would have had a peaceful solution.

That should all be verifiable in internal records & communications.

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex ... hp&pc=U531

Yeah those Taliban folks, much beloved by some posters on this forum, have a special "welcome home" greeting for these former Afghan pilots. I'm glad we are done there. i did notice the Chicoms are cumming in their britches waiting to move into Bagram AFB, excuse me, Osama Bin Laden AFB. I wonder why brain damaged Joe left a single building standing there? They should have needed Fred Flintstone to clear off all the Barney Rubble that use to be an airfield. One pass with the B52s should have done the job. The Chicoms gotta be loving dementia Joe right now. Hey Joe, what time is it again?

https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/why- ... 0f5d3f7ff5

Maybe the Chicoms can be allowed to call it Chairman Mao AFB?

[jhu72]

... shame Trump had no balls. Trump and Pence advisors might of had some influence if they had been allowed to conduct a normal transition. This is all lipstick on a pig.

[cradleandshoot]

... shame Trump had no balls. Trump and Pence advisors might of had some influence if they had been allowed to conduct a normal transition. This is all lipstick on a pig.

Just wondering Doc, did Joe ask you to give advice to the new leaders in Afghanistan? You are after all highly qualified to do so. Are the Taliban advocates for your climate change agenda? They seem to expend a lot of energy blowing people and buildings up. Maybe brain damaged Joe will offer them a deal to convert all our vehicles he left over there to electric. That should sooth the savage beast in the FLP turnip crowd.

[cradleandshoot]

... shame Trump had no balls. Trump and Pence advisors might of had some influence if they had been allowed to conduct a normal transition. This is all lipstick on a pig.

... shame Trump had no balls.

Acting just like a liberal he was...

[Brooklyn]

Salty,

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss internal communications.

We got quite a lot of that under Bush when he was "justifying" his imperialistic invasions. When pressed to present actual evidence of these claims the Bush regime couldn't find any evidence. Don't hold your breath waiting for any "proof" of these.

[Brooklyn]

cradle,

Yeah those Taliban folks, much beloved by some posters on this forum, have a special "welcome home" greeting for these former Afghan pilots.

Assuming those stories are true, they are similar to the love shown to Vietnam era draft dodgers. While so many on the pro war far right hated them for escaping the draft, those critics have had no problem with Israeli and Russian draft dodgers coming here illegally to escape conscription in their lands. Double standards, much

[youthathletics]

cradle,

Yeah those Taliban folks, much beloved by some posters on this forum, have a special "welcome home" greeting for these former Afghan pilots.

Assuming those stories are true, they are similar to the love shown to Vietnam era draft dodgers. While so many on the pro war far right hated them for escaping the draft, those critics have had no problem with Israeli and Russian draft dodgers coming here illegally to escape conscription in their lands. Double standards, much

Similiar.....yea Americans killed Americans. GMAFB. Same for women.....Brooklyn seems to be pro murder if you do not align with certain beliefs. Well done....you make Michael Moore look like a far right wing nut.

[cradleandshoot]

cradle,

Yeah those Taliban folks, much beloved by some posters on this forum, have a special "welcome home" greeting for these former Afghan pilots.

Assuming those stories are true, they are similar to the love shown to Vietnam era draft dodgers. While so many on the pro war far right hated them for escaping the draft, those critics have had no problem with Israeli and Russian draft dodgers coming here illegally to escape conscription in their lands. Double standards, much

Similiar.....yea Americans killed Americans. GMAFB. Same for women.....Brooklyn seems to be pro murder if you do not align with certain beliefs. Well done....you make Michael Moore look like a far right wing nut.

+1 I remember all those draft dodgers being dragged out of their houses and being decapitated on the streets of America. It was a shameful episode in our history. How soon we forget. Good thing the blimp is here to remind all Americans of the hallucinations that still rattle around in his brain.

[Brooklyn]

Calm down children. As always, the right wing attack machine engages in its gang up warfare when they cannot come up with any substantive discussion. No surprise.

________________________


Bottom line is that while they are crying over the Taliban easy victory to restore their government, criminals who betrayed their country are coming to America. They will take away jobs from Americans, many going on welfare, many more into subsidized housing, and guess who will pay the bill.

[Typical Lax Dad]

cradle,

Yeah those Taliban folks, much beloved by some posters on this forum, have a special "welcome home" greeting for these former Afghan pilots.

Assuming those stories are true, they are similar to the love shown to Vietnam era draft dodgers. While so many on the pro war far right hated them for escaping the draft, those critics have had no problem with Israeli and Russian draft dodgers coming here illegally to escape conscription in their lands. Double standards, much

Similiar.....yea Americans killed Americans. GMAFB. Same for women.....Brooklyn seems to be pro murder if you do not align with certain beliefs. Well done....you make Michael Moore look like a far right wing nut.

https://eji.org/reports/targeting-black-veterans/

Yea…..they did.

[youthathletics]

cradle,

Yeah those Taliban folks, much beloved by some posters on this forum, have a special "welcome home" greeting for these former Afghan pilots.

Assuming those stories are true, they are similar to the love shown to Vietnam era draft dodgers. While so many on the pro war far right hated them for escaping the draft, those critics have had no problem with Israeli and Russian draft dodgers coming here illegally to escape conscription in their lands. Double standards, much

Similiar.....yea Americans killed Americans. GMAFB. Same for women.....Brooklyn seems to be pro murder if you do not align with certain beliefs. Well done....you make Michael Moore look like a far right wing nut.

https://eji.org/reports/targeting-black-veterans/

Yea…..they did.

Context TLD, context.

[Typical Lax Dad]

cradle,

Yeah those Taliban folks, much beloved by some posters on this forum, have a special "welcome home" greeting for these former Afghan pilots.

Assuming those stories are true, they are similar to the love shown to Vietnam era draft dodgers. While so many on the pro war far right hated them for escaping the draft, those critics have had no problem with Israeli and Russian draft dodgers coming here illegally to escape conscription in their lands. Double standards, much

Similiar.....yea Americans killed Americans. GMAFB. Same for women.....Brooklyn seems to be pro murder if you do not align with certain beliefs. Well done....you make Michael Moore look like a far right wing nut.

https://eji.org/reports/targeting-black-veterans/

Yea…..they did.

Context TLD, context.

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. I wonder what the Taliban tab will cost Biden? We should just NEVER confuse it for ransom.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know.

We holding some Afghan money?

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know.

We holding some Afghan money?

Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash?

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know.

We holding some Afghan money?

Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash?

Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.

[Farfromgeneva]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know.

We holding some Afghan money?

Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash?

Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.

Trust me he knows that in the game of life

[old salt]

The Blackhawks are useless to the Taliban. They can't maintain or operate them. Pay ransom to ship them back to CT & let Sen Blumenthal explain what a good deal it was for US taxpayers to buy them for the Afghans, rather than the used Russian helos they already knew how to fly & maintain.