Way too early rankings

[HooDat]

The final media poll from last year,

Division I Media Poll
Rank Team Points Prev
1 Virginia (14 - 4) 320 (16) 5
2 Maryland (15 - 1) 304 2
3 North Carolina (13 - 3) 288 1
4 Notre Dame (8 - 4) 264 4
5 Duke (14 - 3) 258 3
6 Rutgers (9 - 4) 239 9
7 Georgetown (13 - 3) 222 6
8 Loyola (10 - 6) 216 12
9 Denver (12 - 5) 172 7
10 Lehigh (10 - 2) 157 8
11 Syracuse (7 - 6) 154 10
12 Drexel (10 - 3) 153 11
13 Army (7 - 4) 110 13
14 Bryant (9 - 4) 99 19
15 Vermont (9 - 5) 93 15
16 High Point (8 - 6) 82 16
17 Villanova (7 - 5) 64 14
18 Navy (6 - 3) 42 17
19 Delaware (10 - 3) 28 18
20 Johns Hopkins (4 - 9) 24 20
20 Monmouth (8 - 3) 24 25

Arrow pointing up, relative to 2021
Arrow pointing down
No color = no significant change in either direction

Just one man's opinion. Not sure how many spots I'd move each team up or down, but this is about how I see last year's top 20 teams performing in 2022 relative to the final media poll of 2021. Based mostly on who each team loses/gains to graduation and transfers with a little bit of consideration toward incoming freshmen classes.

I like this way of viewing it. And agree with most of your shading - adding in MD's comment - the Hoo's should be shaded Red. But, with that said in my opinion - if you win it all, you start the next year at #1 until proven otherwise. As a fan, I prefer the underdog role, so I would rather the ranking come out with UVA at 4 or 5 rather than 1.

[Comeonman]

All great comments. Appreciate that. One poster asked for a Top 20. I’ll stick to my 10, but next 10 would be

11 Denver
12 Drexel
13 Cornell
14 Penn
15 Lehigh
16 John’s Hopkins
17 Navy
18 Villanova
19 Richmond
20 Ohio State

[lorin]

All great comments. Appreciate that. One poster asked for a Top 20. I’ll stick to my 10, but next 10 would be

11 Denver
12 Drexel
13 Cornell
14 Penn
15 Lehigh
16 John’s Hopkins
17 Navy
18 Villanova
19 Richmond
20 Ohio State

I would look out for Michigan , they have some really good freshmen coming in

[HooDat]

Marist may deserve some consideration for top-20 as well

[lorin]

Marist may deserve some consideration for top-20 as well

Why

[10stone5]

All great comments. Appreciate that. One poster asked for a Top 20. I’ll stick to my 10, but next 10 would be

11 Denver
12 Drexel
13 Cornell
14 Penn
15 Lehigh
16 John’s Hopkins
17 Navy
18 Villanova
19 Richmond
20 Ohio State

I’d look at one of the other CAAs for that 10-20 slot.
Tigers, Hens would be my bet.

[Neverplaydown]

Like Tigers. Every Starter back except one A Spot. Some quality transfers.
Not sure of impact of freshman, that has to play out. Anyone have any info on?
This team makes a run every few years, this is it.
Think CAA is between Tigers, Hens , Drexel, U Mass. Fairfield will be competitive, Hofstra looks like total Re Build.
Hope All CAA teams schedule tough out of conference games. Playing Bottom 15 teams means Zero.
This is Year CAA gets 2 teams in NCAA

[rolldodge]

G-town was exposed and brutally outclassed by UVA. Disciplined and well rounded team but clear differences in overall talent. Believe Hop has scheduled Gtown. Favor JHU in that matchup despite placing G-town slightly higher .

Sybil was a disorganized train wreck last year, holes but some good talents , Gait and Petro might get them back on track. Like to see them back on RU schedule .

I don't think the game against Virginia was a statistical representation of the difference between the teams. While the eventual NC winner was a more talented team, I think big game experience needs to also be taken into account -- both players and coaches. Thankfully, Georgetown seems to have (finally) vastly improved their OOC schedule next year (rumors are they will add Hopkins, Notre Dame, UNC, and Penn). That should make them battle tested by playoff time.

The addition of Bowen along with the return of McElroy, Smith, Mazzone, Donaldson, Tominovich, Geddes, Godine, and Hess gives them arguably the best defense in the country. Offensively, they need to replace a lot of points from Carraway, and while they picked up some guys with big potential upsides in the transfer market, they are not "sure things". So will remain to be seen who steps up for 2022 on the offensive end of the field.

I agree that #3 is too high for Georgetown, but putting them outside of top 10 is reactionary. Like HopFan16, I think that 8 is a fair preseason assessment -- with definite room for growth.

[wgdsr]

The final media poll from last year,

Division I Media Poll
Rank Team Points Prev
1 Virginia (14 - 4) 320 (16) 5
2 Maryland (15 - 1) 304 2
3 North Carolina (13 - 3) 288 1
4 Notre Dame (8 - 4) 264 4
5 Duke (14 - 3) 258 3
6 Rutgers (9 - 4) 239 9
7 Georgetown (13 - 3) 222 6
8 Loyola (10 - 6) 216 12
9 Denver (12 - 5) 172 7
10 Lehigh (10 - 2) 157 8
11 Syracuse (7 - 6) 154 10
12 Drexel (10 - 3) 153 11
13 Army (7 - 4) 110 13
14 Bryant (9 - 4) 99 19
15 Vermont (9 - 5) 93 15
16 High Point (8 - 6) 82 16
17 Villanova (7 - 5) 64 14
18 Navy (6 - 3) 42 17
19 Delaware (10 - 3) 28 18
20 Johns Hopkins (4 - 9) 24 20
20 Monmouth (8 - 3) 24 25

Arrow pointing up, relative to 2021
Arrow pointing down
No color = no significant change in either direction

Just one man's opinion. Not sure how many spots I'd move each team up or down, but this is about how I see last year's top 20 teams performing in 2022 relative to the final media poll of 2021. Based mostly on who each team loses/gains to graduation and transfers with a little bit of consideration toward incoming freshmen classes.

I like this way of viewing it. And agree with most of your shading - adding in MD's comment - the Hoo's should be shaded Red. But, with that said in my opinion - if you win it all, you start the next year at #1 until proven otherwise. As a fan, I prefer the underdog role, so I would rather the ranking come out with UVA at 4 or 5 rather than 1.

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don't care hoo you put anywhere else, this works out fine. given it's not likely in pre-season polls, maybe they can drop the traditional opener vs loyola and get there.

[HooDat]

Marist may deserve some consideration for top-20 as well

Why

Coach Keagan is doing some pretty good things there, with the limited time they actually got to play last year, they showed well. Of course this assumes they get out of the COVID purgatory they found themselves in last year.

[HooDat]

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don't care hoo you put anywhere else, this works out fine. given it's not likely in pre-season polls, maybe they can drop the traditional opener vs loyola and get there.

works for me!

[InsiderRoll]

Marist may deserve some consideration for top-20 as well

Why

Coach Keagan is doing some pretty good things there, with the limited time they actually got to play last year, they showed well. Of course this assumes they get out of the COVID purgatory they found themselves in last year.

Keegan has done a fine job, but honestly a program like Marist doesn’t belong in a preseason poll. If they run the table and steal a win or play a top 15 team close then they can and should absolutely play their way in. But that is about the ceiling of that program, and Keegan has hit it.

[houndace1]

The final media poll from last year,

Division I Media Poll
Rank Team Points Prev
1 Virginia (14 - 4) 320 (16) 5
2 Maryland (15 - 1) 304 2
3 North Carolina (13 - 3) 288 1
4 Notre Dame (8 - 4) 264 4
5 Duke (14 - 3) 258 3
6 Rutgers (9 - 4) 239 9
7 Georgetown (13 - 3) 222 6
8 Loyola (10 - 6) 216 12
9 Denver (12 - 5) 172 7
10 Lehigh (10 - 2) 157 8
11 Syracuse (7 - 6) 154 10
12 Drexel (10 - 3) 153 11
13 Army (7 - 4) 110 13
14 Bryant (9 - 4) 99 19
15 Vermont (9 - 5) 93 15
16 High Point (8 - 6) 82 16
17 Villanova (7 - 5) 64 14
18 Navy (6 - 3) 42 17
19 Delaware (10 - 3) 28 18
20 Johns Hopkins (4 - 9) 24 20
20 Monmouth (8 - 3) 24 25

Arrow pointing up, relative to 2021
Arrow pointing down
No color = no significant change in either direction

Just one man's opinion. Not sure how many spots I'd move each team up or down, but this is about how I see last year's top 20 teams performing in 2022 relative to the final media poll of 2021. Based mostly on who each team loses/gains to graduation and transfers with a little bit of consideration toward incoming freshmen classes.

I like this way of viewing it. And agree with most of your shading - adding in MD's comment - the Hoo's should be shaded Red. But, with that said in my opinion - if you win it all, you start the next year at #1 until proven otherwise. As a fan, I prefer the underdog role, so I would rather the ranking come out with UVA at 4 or 5 rather than 1.

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don't care hoo you put anywhere else, this works out fine. given it's not likely in pre-season polls, maybe they can drop the traditional opener vs loyola and get there.

This is the first game for next year I believe for both schools, same as always. Given the track record this is more of a test for loyola to play well considering that uva is just too DAMN good

[Big Dog]

All great comments. Appreciate that. One poster asked for a Top 20. I’ll stick to my 10, but next 10 would be

11 Denver
12 Drexel
13 Cornell
14 Penn
15 Lehigh
16 John’s Hopkins
17 Navy
18 Villanova
19 Richmond
20 Ohio State

Big demerits for the apostrophe.

[Farfromgeneva]

I’m biased but despite the disaster that 21 was for OSU they look like they could be up around the 3rd best team, figuring maybe RU/Hop/OSU will fight for that order. It’s possible that could translate into a 9-13 area. More specifically they basically bring back all their scorers except LeClair and really targeted their needs pretty well. Admittedly I’m not sure about the close d but goalie was a weakness and they have Caton Johnson now. Jason Knox has the potential to be a 50 goal scorer and will give them at least 35-40 if he’s focused which has to be maintained with him. That attack is going to be pretty big with two 6’3-6’4” kids on it. Think 5/6 top scorers return. Drew Blanchard is pretty under the radar but Ignacio and he could be a nasty two headed monster at FO. Don’t know how good Mendoza (lafayette, 23gbs, 10CT as a FR) and Gallagher will be but they performed at their prior stops.

Seems very rifle shot and on point. Could be a bounce back year for them.

[HopFan16]

Think 5/6 top scorers return.

Only 4/6 return, since Mitchell transferred.

They also lose Terefenko, who IMO was their most valuable player. Gone too are two starters on defense, Henrick and Wenz.

Faceoffs will be solid, offense should be ok with Jack Myers, Reid, and Knox, though LeClaire is a big loss. The defense probably less so.

I didn't love the way they ended the year, nor do I love all the assistant coach turnover they've had recently and so many guys in the portal—many of them underclassmen.

I agree that the conference is likely to be something of a crapshoot behind Maryland but right now, for me, OSU is probably bringing up the rear in the B1G.

[Tonyp2566]

Marist may deserve some consideration for top-20 as well

Why

They’ve only lost 3 players from the team that trounced Army 2 season ago.

[redfoxalum]

Marist may deserve some consideration for top-20 as well

Why

They’ve only lost 3 players from the team that trounced Army 2 season ago.

Unfortunately, Peyton Smith was one of those players who've graduated. Extremely small sample size from last season, but facing off at a 40% clip against MAAC competition won't be good enough to crack the top 20 as the ooc opponents figure to have better fogos overall. Like Smith, the Freshman fogo Bedell hails from North Carolina and is highly regarded by Greg Gurenlian. If fogo and ssdm are significantly better in 2022, Marist could be a top 15-20 caliber squad, the top 6 on offense are very talented and all seniors or redshirt seniors.

[lorin]

Marist may deserve some consideration for top-20 as well

Why

They’ve only lost 3 players from the team that trounced Army 2 season ago.

Boy I hope you guys play Army this year.

[Comeonman]

Big demerits for the apostrophe.
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I figured someone who call me on that. Spellcheck screwed me, but mea culpa for not proofreading. My apologies.