All things CoronaVirus

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How many of your friends and family members have died of the Chinese Corona Virus?

0 people
45
64%
1 person.
10
14%
2 people.
3
4%
3 people.
5
7%
More.
7
10%
 
Total votes: 70

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Re: All things CoronaVirus

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DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:28 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:40 am Ivermectin: a systematic review from antiviral effects to COVID-19 complementary regimen

In this comprehensive systematic review, antiviral effects of ivermectin are summarized including in vitro and in vivo studies over the past 50 years. Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32533071/
If you are promoting ivermectin for “treating” COVID-19, you should be suspended or banned from this forum.

From the FDA:

There seems to be a growing interest in a drug called ivermectin to treat humans with COVID-19. Ivermectin is often used in the U.S. to treat or prevent parasites in animals. The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have required medical support and been hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses.

Here’s What You Need to Know about Ivermectin
FDA has not approved ivermectin for use in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans. Ivermectin tablets are approved at very specific doses for some parasitic worms, and there are topical (on the skin) formulations for head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. Ivermectin is not an anti-viral (a drug for treating viruses).
Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm.
If you have a prescription for ivermectin for an FDA-approved use, get it from a legitimate source and take it exactly as prescribed.
Never use medications intended for animals on yourself. Ivermectin preparations for animals are very different from those approved for humans.


https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer- ... t-covid-19

DocBarrister
Ban me? Perhaps you need to ban the NIH for posting the information on a public platform. :roll:
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers, Anti-Maskers, and Ivermectin Nuts are Killing People

Post by runrussellrun »

DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:39 am Sadly, ignorance and stupidity kills.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/30/politics ... index.html

Bernier, in fact, was the third conservative talk radio host who opined against masks and expressed skepticism about the vaccine to die from Covid-19 in recent weeks. Earlier this month Dick Farrel, a Florida-based talk radio host, passed away from the coronavirus. Just last week, Nashville-based host Phil Valentine, 65, died from the virus.

These deaths didn't have to happen. The three Covid-19 vaccines have each proven incredibly effective at lessening -- and almost eliminating -- hospitalizations and deaths of people who get the virus. The vaccines have been readily available for months, with many states and localities offering incentives -- financial and otherwise -- for those willing to get the shots.

Masking, in study after study after study, has proven to be -- along with social distancing -- our single best tool to prevent the rapid spread of the virus, up to and including the highly contagious Delta variant.

… The story of Wallace, who leaves behind a wife and three children with a fourth on the way in a month or so -- is particularly devastating. As the San Angelo (Texas) Standard-Times wrote of Wallace:

"'Caleb instead began taking tablets of ivermectin (an anti-parasitic medicine the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has since urged people not to take for COVID-19), high doses of Vitamin C, zinc aspirin, and an inhaler. By July 30, however, Caleb was taken by a relative to the emergency room at Shannon Medical Center.'"

That is a crushing loss. As are the deaths of Bernier, Farrel and Valentine. That they spread their anti-science views on masking and vaccinations only to die from the very virus they scoffed at makes their lives (and deaths) a tragedy of significant proportions.


Their ignorance and stupidity put them in their graves, and may also have killed some of their listeners.

Consider this a service message for some of the folks on this forum.

DocBarrister :?
What is the message being served?

Wear a mask?

which kind?

Get the vaxx?
Those noted educated in the shadows of Harvard and scum like Sakler hall (bigpharma Immunity, awesomer ) , would like our good medical folks on this forum a very easy question.

Has even just ONE person died from covid after receiving the Pfeizer vaxx ? Yes or no ?


so simple.......the reason why our health care system is lousy.....only the best. And they sure know it :lol: :lol:
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Re: All things CoronaVirus

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tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:48 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:28 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:40 am Ivermectin: a systematic review from antiviral effects to COVID-19 complementary regimen

In this comprehensive systematic review, antiviral effects of ivermectin are summarized including in vitro and in vivo studies over the past 50 years. Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32533071/
If you are promoting ivermectin for “treating” COVID-19, you should be suspended or banned from this forum.

From the FDA:

There seems to be a growing interest in a drug called ivermectin to treat humans with COVID-19. Ivermectin is often used in the U.S. to treat or prevent parasites in animals. The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have required medical support and been hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses.

Here’s What You Need to Know about Ivermectin
FDA has not approved ivermectin for use in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans. Ivermectin tablets are approved at very specific doses for some parasitic worms, and there are topical (on the skin) formulations for head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. Ivermectin is not an anti-viral (a drug for treating viruses).
Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm.
If you have a prescription for ivermectin for an FDA-approved use, get it from a legitimate source and take it exactly as prescribed.
Never use medications intended for animals on yourself. Ivermectin preparations for animals are very different from those approved for humans.


https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer- ... t-covid-19

DocBarrister
Ban me? Perhaps you need to ban the NIH for posting the information on a public platform. :roll:
Interesting ..........anyone gonna watch the sick spike lee joint film, comparing NYC "resolve", comparing 9/11 to covid, no mask, us vs them.

sick\

keep fanning the flames..
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Re: All things CoronaVirus

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tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:48 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:28 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:40 am Ivermectin: a systematic review from antiviral effects to COVID-19 complementary regimen

In this comprehensive systematic review, antiviral effects of ivermectin are summarized including in vitro and in vivo studies over the past 50 years. Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32533071/
If you are promoting ivermectin for “treating” COVID-19, you should be suspended or banned from this forum.

From the FDA:

There seems to be a growing interest in a drug called ivermectin to treat humans with COVID-19. Ivermectin is often used in the U.S. to treat or prevent parasites in animals. The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have required medical support and been hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses.

Here’s What You Need to Know about Ivermectin
FDA has not approved ivermectin for use in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans. Ivermectin tablets are approved at very specific doses for some parasitic worms, and there are topical (on the skin) formulations for head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. Ivermectin is not an anti-viral (a drug for treating viruses).
Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm.
If you have a prescription for ivermectin for an FDA-approved use, get it from a legitimate source and take it exactly as prescribed.
Never use medications intended for animals on yourself. Ivermectin preparations for animals are very different from those approved for humans.


https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer- ... t-covid-19

DocBarrister
Ban me? Perhaps you need to ban the NIH for posting the information on a public platform. :roll:
If you are posting articles on this forum about ivermectin without the warnings against using it for COVID-19, then you are effectively promoting it for COVID-19.

Just stop it.

People are getting hurt from the spread of such misinformation.

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Re: Anti-Vaxxers, Anti-Maskers, and Ivermectin Nuts are Killing People

Post by DocBarrister »

runrussellrun wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:50 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:39 am Sadly, ignorance and stupidity kills.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/30/politics ... index.html

Bernier, in fact, was the third conservative talk radio host who opined against masks and expressed skepticism about the vaccine to die from Covid-19 in recent weeks. Earlier this month Dick Farrel, a Florida-based talk radio host, passed away from the coronavirus. Just last week, Nashville-based host Phil Valentine, 65, died from the virus.

These deaths didn't have to happen. The three Covid-19 vaccines have each proven incredibly effective at lessening -- and almost eliminating -- hospitalizations and deaths of people who get the virus. The vaccines have been readily available for months, with many states and localities offering incentives -- financial and otherwise -- for those willing to get the shots.

Masking, in study after study after study, has proven to be -- along with social distancing -- our single best tool to prevent the rapid spread of the virus, up to and including the highly contagious Delta variant.

… The story of Wallace, who leaves behind a wife and three children with a fourth on the way in a month or so -- is particularly devastating. As the San Angelo (Texas) Standard-Times wrote of Wallace:

"'Caleb instead began taking tablets of ivermectin (an anti-parasitic medicine the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has since urged people not to take for COVID-19), high doses of Vitamin C, zinc aspirin, and an inhaler. By July 30, however, Caleb was taken by a relative to the emergency room at Shannon Medical Center.'"

That is a crushing loss. As are the deaths of Bernier, Farrel and Valentine. That they spread their anti-science views on masking and vaccinations only to die from the very virus they scoffed at makes their lives (and deaths) a tragedy of significant proportions.


Their ignorance and stupidity put them in their graves, and may also have killed some of their listeners.

Consider this a service message for some of the folks on this forum.

DocBarrister :?
What is the message being served?

Wear a mask?

which kind?

Get the vaxx?
Those noted educated in the shadows of Harvard and scum like Sakler hall (bigpharma Immunity, awesomer ) , would like our good medical folks on this forum a very easy question.

Has even just ONE person died from covid after receiving the Pfeizer vaxx ? Yes or no ?


so simple.......the reason why our health care system is lousy.....only the best. And they sure know it :lol: :lol:
The message?

(1) Get the COVID-19 vaccine.

(2) Wear a mask in accordance with CDC guidance.

(3) Do NOT take ivermectin for COVID-19, or for any reason without a physician’s prescription.

(4) Stop being ignorant and stupid—stop listening to right-wing media.

(5) Do the above and LIVE.

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Re: Anti-Vaxxers, Anti-Maskers, and Ivermectin Nuts are Killing People

Post by runrussellrun »

DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:02 am
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:50 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:39 am Sadly, ignorance and stupidity kills.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/30/politics ... index.html

Bernier, in fact, was the third conservative talk radio host who opined against masks and expressed skepticism about the vaccine to die from Covid-19 in recent weeks. Earlier this month Dick Farrel, a Florida-based talk radio host, passed away from the coronavirus. Just last week, Nashville-based host Phil Valentine, 65, died from the virus.

These deaths didn't have to happen. The three Covid-19 vaccines have each proven incredibly effective at lessening -- and almost eliminating -- hospitalizations and deaths of people who get the virus. The vaccines have been readily available for months, with many states and localities offering incentives -- financial and otherwise -- for those willing to get the shots.

Masking, in study after study after study, has proven to be -- along with social distancing -- our single best tool to prevent the rapid spread of the virus, up to and including the highly contagious Delta variant.

… The story of Wallace, who leaves behind a wife and three children with a fourth on the way in a month or so -- is particularly devastating. As the San Angelo (Texas) Standard-Times wrote of Wallace:

"'Caleb instead began taking tablets of ivermectin (an anti-parasitic medicine the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has since urged people not to take for COVID-19), high doses of Vitamin C, zinc aspirin, and an inhaler. By July 30, however, Caleb was taken by a relative to the emergency room at Shannon Medical Center.'"

That is a crushing loss. As are the deaths of Bernier, Farrel and Valentine. That they spread their anti-science views on masking and vaccinations only to die from the very virus they scoffed at makes their lives (and deaths) a tragedy of significant proportions.


Their ignorance and stupidity put them in their graves, and may also have killed some of their listeners.

Consider this a service message for some of the folks on this forum.

DocBarrister :?
What is the message being served?

Wear a mask?

which kind?

Get the vaxx?
Those noted educated in the shadows of Harvard and scum like Sakler hall (bigpharma Immunity, awesomer ) , would like our good medical folks on this forum a very easy question.

Has even just ONE person died from covid after receiving the Pfeizer vaxx ? Yes or no ?


so simple.......the reason why our health care system is lousy.....only the best. And they sure know it :lol: :lol:
The message?

(1) Get the COVID-19 vaccine.

(2) Wear a mask in accordance with CDC guidance.

(3) Do NOT take ivermectin for COVID-19, or for any reason without a physician’s prescription.

(4) Stop being ignorant and stupid—stop listening to right-wing media.

(5) Do the above and LIVE.

DocBarrister
The only "right wing news" I ever read is from folks like you . Without your posts about "con" servatives, anti- whatevers, comes from you.

Infotainment ? Doc, seriously ? You think THIS guy watch TV, evah? Get some perception on whom you are around, their fella.

Noticed the ONLY question I asked of you, you ignored. Anyone who got the vaxx, die of covid......months after getting the 2nd shot ?

The indegonous folk that lived in the America's....that survived the various plagues that wiped out their population....did THEY need to get a vaxx, or did they develop natural "immunity" from surving.

Put another way, are you, apparently a medical doctor, going to make the scientific claim that those who GOT covid, with symptoms, testing POSITIVE...........really, really, need to get the vaxx?

What scientific basis has brought you to this conclusion?

YES......is the answer to my question . (vaxx people died of covid. Heck, they were gonna die anyway, right doc )
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Re: All things CoronaVirus

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DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:56 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:48 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:28 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:40 am Ivermectin: a systematic review from antiviral effects to COVID-19 complementary regimen

In this comprehensive systematic review, antiviral effects of ivermectin are summarized including in vitro and in vivo studies over the past 50 years. Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32533071/
If you are promoting ivermectin for “treating” COVID-19, you should be suspended or banned from this forum.

From the FDA:

There seems to be a growing interest in a drug called ivermectin to treat humans with COVID-19. Ivermectin is often used in the U.S. to treat or prevent parasites in animals. The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have required medical support and been hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses.

Here’s What You Need to Know about Ivermectin
FDA has not approved ivermectin for use in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans. Ivermectin tablets are approved at very specific doses for some parasitic worms, and there are topical (on the skin) formulations for head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. Ivermectin is not an anti-viral (a drug for treating viruses).
Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm.
If you have a prescription for ivermectin for an FDA-approved use, get it from a legitimate source and take it exactly as prescribed.
Never use medications intended for animals on yourself. Ivermectin preparations for animals are very different from those approved for humans.


https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer- ... t-covid-19

DocBarrister
Ban me? Perhaps you need to ban the NIH for posting the information on a public platform. :roll:
If you are posting articles on this forum about ivermectin without the warnings against using it for COVID-19, then you are effectively promoting it for COVID-19.

Just stop it.

People are getting hurt from the spread of such misinformation.

DocBarrister
Not sure why he won’t endorse Roots Tonic but he will endorse Ivermectin?
“I wish you would!”
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Re: All things CoronaVirus

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:50 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:56 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:48 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:28 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:40 am Ivermectin: a systematic review from antiviral effects to COVID-19 complementary regimen

In this comprehensive systematic review, antiviral effects of ivermectin are summarized including in vitro and in vivo studies over the past 50 years. Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32533071/
If you are promoting ivermectin for “treating” COVID-19, you should be suspended or banned from this forum.

From the FDA:

There seems to be a growing interest in a drug called ivermectin to treat humans with COVID-19. Ivermectin is often used in the U.S. to treat or prevent parasites in animals. The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have required medical support and been hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses.

Here’s What You Need to Know about Ivermectin
FDA has not approved ivermectin for use in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans. Ivermectin tablets are approved at very specific doses for some parasitic worms, and there are topical (on the skin) formulations for head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. Ivermectin is not an anti-viral (a drug for treating viruses).
Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm.
If you have a prescription for ivermectin for an FDA-approved use, get it from a legitimate source and take it exactly as prescribed.
Never use medications intended for animals on yourself. Ivermectin preparations for animals are very different from those approved for humans.


https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer- ... t-covid-19

DocBarrister
Ban me? Perhaps you need to ban the NIH for posting the information on a public platform. :roll:
If you are posting articles on this forum about ivermectin without the warnings against using it for COVID-19, then you are effectively promoting it for COVID-19.

Just stop it.

People are getting hurt from the spread of such misinformation.

DocBarrister
Not sure why he won’t endorse Roots Tonic but he will endorse Ivermectin?
Brett hasn't recommended Roots Tonic...yet?
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Re: All things CoronaVirus

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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:16 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:50 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:56 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:48 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:28 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:40 am Ivermectin: a systematic review from antiviral effects to COVID-19 complementary regimen

In this comprehensive systematic review, antiviral effects of ivermectin are summarized including in vitro and in vivo studies over the past 50 years. Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32533071/
If you are promoting ivermectin for “treating” COVID-19, you should be suspended or banned from this forum.

From the FDA:

There seems to be a growing interest in a drug called ivermectin to treat humans with COVID-19. Ivermectin is often used in the U.S. to treat or prevent parasites in animals. The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have required medical support and been hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses.

Here’s What You Need to Know about Ivermectin
FDA has not approved ivermectin for use in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans. Ivermectin tablets are approved at very specific doses for some parasitic worms, and there are topical (on the skin) formulations for head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. Ivermectin is not an anti-viral (a drug for treating viruses).
Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm.
If you have a prescription for ivermectin for an FDA-approved use, get it from a legitimate source and take it exactly as prescribed.
Never use medications intended for animals on yourself. Ivermectin preparations for animals are very different from those approved for humans.


https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer- ... t-covid-19

DocBarrister
Ban me? Perhaps you need to ban the NIH for posting the information on a public platform. :roll:
If you are posting articles on this forum about ivermectin without the warnings against using it for COVID-19, then you are effectively promoting it for COVID-19.

Just stop it.

People are getting hurt from the spread of such misinformation.

DocBarrister
Not sure why he won’t endorse Roots Tonic but he will endorse Ivermectin?
Brett hasn't recommended Roots Tonic...yet?
Thousands swear by Roots Tonic and, unlike Ivermectin, it has no connection to the medical establishment…..these guys should be all over it.
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sweet sixteen

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Just STOP it.

Stop the lies on this website.

16

sixteen

That is how many people that I know that GOT vaccined with covid shots.

16 people, I know, that got vaccinated .....that are Trump supporters. 15 Whites, 1 hispanic.

You folks going after whom, with your lies?

What benefit are you all providing with this US vs THEM fake stuff? You feel superiour?

Time for some more banning...........BAN. BAN\
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Someone woke up?
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:35 am Someone woke up?
Anecdotes have value. Is his point that we should try to avoid absolute language? I guess I was taught that at elementary school. It’s a commonality that has to be navigated in this environment. Or not one can choose to stomp their feet and make a argument based on a elementary school concept but it sort of ignores the rules on the ground here as we’ve observed experiential (like said persons own anecdote as proof to scream ironically). Or we can choose to yell and be angry at an environment we can’t change and selfishly demand it turn the way we want it to.
Harvard University, out
University of Utah, in

I am going to get a 4.0 in damage.

(Afan jealous he didn’t do this first)
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Re: All things CoronaVirus

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Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:40 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:35 am Someone woke up?
Anecdotes have value. Is his point that we should try to avoid absolute language? I guess I was taught that at elementary school. It’s a commonality that has to be navigated in this environment. Or not one can choose to stomp their feet and make a argument based on a elementary school concept but it sort of ignores the rules on the ground here as we’ve observed experiential (like said persons own anecdote as proof to scream ironically). Or we can choose to yell and be angry at an environment we can’t change and selfishly demand it turn the way we want it to.
I dunno whether that's his point or not. Tough to parse meaning.

But shouting, ranting, ain't gonna persuade anyone.

I guess the "lies" accusation is what disturbs me. Is it a lie that unvaccinated are way, way more likely to contract and have adverse outcomes than the vaccinated? News to me.

Or is it that some of the loudest anti-vax voices happen to also have been hard core Trumpists? Certainly not all Trump voters are anti-vax, but there's a hard core that overlaps pretty darn significantly. Heck, some of them even booed Trump himself when he made a half-hearted comment about getting vaccinated (after all, the vaccine development would be a positive accomplishment during his Admin).

Of course, it ain't just hard core anti-govt, anti-experts, Trumpists who have been resisting getting vaccinated...just some of the loudest.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:35 am Someone woke up?
Sshuuuuusshhhh. [whispering] Maybe he just stirred a little, has flipped the pillow to the cooler side, and will return to his slumber. [/whispering]
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SCLaxAttack wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:44 pm This shouldn't surprise anyone:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/corona ... 96898.html
It certainly doesn't. It goes to show that the numbers can be (and likely have been manipulated)...to show whatever the Gov't leadership wants.

These right wing leaders aren't the only politicians that will do anything to promote an agenda.
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers, Anti-Maskers, and Ivermectin Nuts are Killing People

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DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:02 am The message?

(1) Get the COVID-19 vaccine.

(2) Wear a mask in accordance with CDC guidance.

(3) Do NOT take ivermectin for COVID-19, or for any reason without a physician’s prescription.

(4) Stop being ignorant and stupid—stop listening to right-wing media.

(5) Do the above and LIVE.

DocBarrister
:roll: OK genius... show us where anyone on this board has "promoted" or suggested anyone take IVM without a physician's prescription!

What I posted this morning is information found on the public NIH Library of Medicine site. It's not political and is obviously considered relevant or the NIH would not have posted it. You better let your buddy Fauci know right away so he can cancel it! :lol:
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers, Anti-Maskers, and Ivermectin Nuts are Killing People

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tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:22 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:02 am The message?

(1) Get the COVID-19 vaccine.

(2) Wear a mask in accordance with CDC guidance.

(3) Do NOT take ivermectin for COVID-19, or for any reason without a physician’s prescription.

(4) Stop being ignorant and stupid—stop listening to right-wing media.

(5) Do the above and LIVE.

DocBarrister
:roll: OK genius... show us where anyone on this board has "promoted" or suggested anyone take IVM without a physician's prescription!

What I posted this morning is information found on the public NIH Library of Medicine site. It's not political and is obviously considered relevant or the NIH would not have posted it. You better let your buddy Fauci know right away so he can cancel it! :lol:
:D It's an opinion article by two people, not a study, it's not endorsed by anyone much less the FDA. And the FDA has explicitly warned against off-label usage and specifically said there's no evidence of appropriateness for Covid. In other words, "Don't prescribe it, docs"... Sheesh.

Yes, are are promoting ivermectin's usage when you try to pawn this stuff off as meaning more than it does.
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers, Anti-Maskers, and Ivermectin Nuts are Killing People

Post by tech37 »

MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:59 pm
tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:22 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:02 am The message?

(1) Get the COVID-19 vaccine.

(2) Wear a mask in accordance with CDC guidance.

(3) Do NOT take ivermectin for COVID-19, or for any reason without a physician’s prescription.

(4) Stop being ignorant and stupid—stop listening to right-wing media.

(5) Do the above and LIVE.

DocBarrister
:roll: OK genius... show us where anyone on this board has "promoted" or suggested anyone take IVM without a physician's prescription!

What I posted this morning is information found on the public NIH Library of Medicine site. It's not political and is obviously considered relevant or the NIH would not have posted it. You better let your buddy Fauci know right away so he can cancel it! :lol:
:D It's an opinion article by two people, not a study, it's not endorsed by anyone much less the FDA. And the FDA has explicitly warned against off-label usage and specifically said there's no evidence of appropriateness for Covid. In other words, "Don't prescribe it, docs"... Sheesh.

Yes, are are promoting ivermectin's usage when you try to pawn this stuff off as meaning more than it does.
Wrong. The IVM information on the NIH site is an abstract.

An abstract is a short statement about your paper designed to give the reader a complete, yet concise, understanding of your paper's research and findings.

Abstracts are designed to highlight key points from major sections of the paper and to explain what the paper includes. Effective abstracts provide sufficient details to expedite classifying the paper as relevant (or not) to readers' clinical work or research interests.

Opinion? :roll: This is not the NYT, it's the NIH. Also, I have never tried to pawn any stuff off "as meaning more than it does." Why do you lie about it? I post information I find relevant. If it upsets you, stop reading.
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