Way too early rankings

[Comeonman]

Reading the Rutgers 2022 posts, I might as well broaden the debate on how good teams seem going into next spring. I’ll kick it off with:

1 Virginia
2 Maryland
3 Georgetown
4 Duke
5 Notre Dame
6 Loyola
7 North Carolina
8 Rutgers
9 Yale
10 Army

[Njlaxx11]

Reading the Rutgers 2022 posts, I might as well broaden the debate on how good teams seem going into next spring. I’ll kick it off with:

1 Virginia
2 Maryland
3 Georgetown
4 Duke
5 Notre Dame
6 Loyola
7 North Carolina
8 Rutgers
9 Yale
10 Army

georgetown at 3 seems a bit ambitious.

[Laxman23]

Great topic……allows for hope for everyone’s favorite team. Why not expand it to twenty??

[Laxman23]

Great topic……allows for hope for everyone’s favorite team. Why not expand it to twenty??

[10stone5]

Reading the Rutgers 2022 posts, I might as well broaden the debate on how good teams seem going into next spring. I’ll kick it off with:

1 Virginia
2 Maryland
3 Georgetown
4 Duke
5 Notre Dame
6 Loyola
7 North Carolina
8 Rutgers
9 Yale
10 Army

The final media poll from last year,

Division I Media Poll
Rank Team Points Prev
1 Virginia (14 - 4) 320 (16) 5
2 Maryland (15 - 1) 304 2
3 North Carolina (13 - 3) 288 1
4 Notre Dame (8 - 4) 264 4
5 Duke (14 - 3) 258 3
6 Rutgers (9 - 4) 239 9
7 Georgetown (13 - 3) 222 6
8 Loyola (10 - 6) 216 12
9 Denver (12 - 5) 172 7
10 Lehigh (10 - 2) 157 8
11 Syracuse (7 - 6) 154 10
12 Drexel (10 - 3) 153 11
13 Army (7 - 4) 110 13
14 Bryant (9 - 4) 99 19
15 Vermont (9 - 5) 93 15
16 High Point (8 - 6) 82 16
17 Villanova (7 - 5) 64 14
18 Navy (6 - 3) 42 17
19 Delaware (10 - 3) 28 18
20 Johns Hopkins (4 - 9) 24 20
20 Monmouth (8 - 3) 24 25

Loyola was the only team outside the top 10 (pre-tournament)
to make the NCAAs final eight.

[HopFan16]

The final media poll from last year,

Division I Media Poll
Rank Team Points Prev
1 Virginia (14 - 4) 320 (16) 5
2 Maryland (15 - 1) 304 2
3 North Carolina (13 - 3) 288 1
4 Notre Dame (8 - 4) 264 4
5 Duke (14 - 3) 258 3
6 Rutgers (9 - 4) 239 9
7 Georgetown (13 - 3) 222 6
8 Loyola (10 - 6) 216 12
9 Denver (12 - 5) 172 7
10 Lehigh (10 - 2) 157 8
11 Syracuse (7 - 6) 154 10
12 Drexel (10 - 3) 153 11
13 Army (7 - 4) 110 13
14 Bryant (9 - 4) 99 19
15 Vermont (9 - 5) 93 15
16 High Point (8 - 6) 82 16
17 Villanova (7 - 5) 64 14
18 Navy (6 - 3) 42 17
19 Delaware (10 - 3) 28 18
20 Johns Hopkins (4 - 9) 24 20
20 Monmouth (8 - 3) 24 25

Arrow pointing up, relative to 2021
Arrow pointing down
No color = no significant change in either direction

Just one man's opinion. Not sure how many spots I'd move each team up or down, but this is about how I see last year's top 20 teams performing in 2022 relative to the final media poll of 2021. Based mostly on who each team loses/gains to graduation and transfers with a little bit of consideration toward incoming freshmen classes.

[blue angels]

Reading the Rutgers 2022 posts, I might as well broaden the debate on how good teams seem going into next spring. I’ll kick it off with:

1 Virginia
2 Maryland
3 Georgetown
4 Duke
5 Notre Dame
6 Loyola
7 North Carolina
8 Rutgers
9 Yale
10 Army

georgetown at 3 seems a bit ambitious.

Agreed on Georgetown......I also think Virginia is too high. Some key players from their Title run who were expected back are not on the Fall roster. Top 5 yes but not #1 at this juncture anyway.

[pcowlax]

Totally agree on Georgetown. A nice team with a small handful of good wins the past few years who was blown off the field when playing the first real top 5 team they had seen in several years. Ahead of Denver and Nova in the Big East? Maaybe. #3? Uh, no. 10-12? Probably ok.

[bananas]

Maryland
UVA
Duke
UNC
Notre Dame
Rutgers
Loyola
Georgetown
Denver
JHU

[Essexfenwick]

Hopkins was great at the end of last year and better than anyone UMD played in the tournament. If they pick up where they left off then they can beat anybody

[Essexfenwick]

Hopkins was great at the end of last year and better than anyone UMD played in the tournament. If they pick up where they left off then they can beat anybody

Other than UVA… thought that was in there.

[bananas]

10-20

Army
Yale
Syracuse
Cornell
Navy
Michigan
Delaware
Drexel
Bryant
Lehigh

[HopFan16]

Totally agree on Georgetown. A nice team with a small handful of good wins the past few years who was blown off the field when playing the first real top 5 team they had seen in several years. Ahead of Denver and Nova in the Big East? Maaybe. #3? Uh, no. 10-12? Probably ok.

If GTown is 12 then where is Cuse? 30?

I would not rank the Hoyas #3 but still believe they're firmly in the top 10. A quarterfinalist that loses Carraway yes but they're bringing in several impact transfers including an alpha defender in Bowen to pair next to Gibson Smith. They're set at goalie and FOGO and have a promising do-it-all middie in Dylan Hess for another three years. I think a couple other 2021 quarterfinalists will take bigger steps back in 2022 than they will.

[bananas]

1-10

Maryland
UVA
Duke
UNC
Notre Dame
Rutgers
Loyola
Georgetown
Denver
JHU


11-20
Army
Yale
Syracuse
Cornell
Navy
Michigan
Delaware
Drexel
Bryant
Lehigh

[MDlaxfan76]

The final media poll from last year,

Division I Media Poll
Rank Team Points Prev
1 Virginia (14 - 4) 320 (16) 5
2 Maryland (15 - 1) 304 2
3 North Carolina (13 - 3) 288 1
4 Notre Dame (8 - 4) 264 4
5 Duke (14 - 3) 258 3
6 Rutgers (9 - 4) 239 9
7 Georgetown (13 - 3) 222 6
8 Loyola (10 - 6) 216 12
9 Denver (12 - 5) 172 7
10 Lehigh (10 - 2) 157 8
11 Syracuse (7 - 6) 154 10
12 Drexel (10 - 3) 153 11
13 Army (7 - 4) 110 13
14 Bryant (9 - 4) 99 19
15 Vermont (9 - 5) 93 15
16 High Point (8 - 6) 82 16
17 Villanova (7 - 5) 64 14
18 Navy (6 - 3) 42 17
19 Delaware (10 - 3) 28 18
20 Johns Hopkins (4 - 9) 24 20
20 Monmouth (8 - 3) 24 25

Arrow pointing up, relative to 2021
Arrow pointing down
No color = no significant change in either direction

Just one man's opinion. Not sure how many spots I'd move each team up or down, but this is about how I see last year's top 20 teams performing in 2022 relative to the final media poll of 2021. Based mostly on who each team loses/gains to graduation and transfers with a little bit of consideration toward incoming freshmen classes.

Though I root for the Hoos, I'd think the odds are pretty high they won't repeat at #1, so I'd have them a red. I do think they could be in the hunt again though.

[Laxfan#1969]

Fun topic...I'll play...of course just an opinion like all the others

1 Virginia
2 Maryland
3 Duke
4 Loyola
5 ND
6 UNC
7 Army
8 Rutgers
9 Georgetown
10 Johns Hopkins


The next handful just outside the top 10 in no particular order - Lehigh, Denver, Navy, Syracuse, Drexel....

Random comments...

I think with a couple guys getting healthy, Loyola is gonna be really tough

The ACC will be loaded as always...

I think Rutgers has a very good core of talent returning...but they will need the new portal pieces to work to stick here IMO

Georgetown will be good...but want to see them get some higher profile wins early in the year OOC

Will Hopkins build off their late season push...I would guess yes

Army is gonna be good...very tough team always...watch out for them...

[Laxfan#1969]

Fun topic...I'll play...of course just an opinion like all the others

1 Virginia
2 Maryland
3 Duke
4 Loyola
5 ND
6 UNC
7 Army
8 Rutgers
9 Georgetown
10 Johns Hopkins


The next handful just outside the top 10 in no particular order - Lehigh, Denver, Navy, Syracuse, Drexel....

Random comments...

I think with a couple guys getting healthy, Loyola is gonna be really tough

The ACC will be loaded as always...

I think Rutgers has a very good core of talent returning...but they will need the new portal pieces to work to stick here IMO

Georgetown will be good...but want to see them get some higher profile wins early in the year OOC

Will Hopkins build off their late season push...I would guess yes

Army is gonna be good...very tough team always...watch out for them...

Oops...I forgot Yale...they're in there somewhere

[pcowlax]

Totally agree on Georgetown. A nice team with a small handful of good wins the past few years who was blown off the field when playing the first real top 5 team they had seen in several years. Ahead of Denver and Nova in the Big East? Maaybe. #3? Uh, no. 10-12? Probably ok.

If GTown is 12 then where is Cuse? 30?

I would not rank the Hoyas #3 but still believe they're firmly in the top 10. A quarterfinalist that loses Carraway yes but they're bringing in several impact transfers including an alpha defender in Bowen to pair next to Gibson Smith. They're set at goalie and FOGO and have a promising do-it-all middie in Dylan Hess for another three years. I think a couple other 2021 quarterfinalists will take bigger steps back in 2022 than they will.

Well, the set of 10-12 does include 10 as well as 12. Cuse? 15? A quarterfinal who no one outside of a homer who watched a lot of lacrosse actually thought was one of the top 8 teams. Bowen is great, a better player than Carraway perhaps. I’m not trying to project tournament results but rather actual abilities, who beats who. If you think G’Town would be favored head to head on a neutral field vs all but 5 teams? Well, we disagree and the Vegas odds, such as they are for lacrosse, would disagree with you too.

[HopFan16]

Totally agree on Georgetown. A nice team with a small handful of good wins the past few years who was blown off the field when playing the first real top 5 team they had seen in several years. Ahead of Denver and Nova in the Big East? Maaybe. #3? Uh, no. 10-12? Probably ok.

If GTown is 12 then where is Cuse? 30?

I would not rank the Hoyas #3 but still believe they're firmly in the top 10. A quarterfinalist that loses Carraway yes but they're bringing in several impact transfers including an alpha defender in Bowen to pair next to Gibson Smith. They're set at goalie and FOGO and have a promising do-it-all middie in Dylan Hess for another three years. I think a couple other 2021 quarterfinalists will take bigger steps back in 2022 than they will.

Well, the set of 10-12 does include 10 as well as 12. Cuse? 15? A quarterfinal who no one outside of a homer who watched a lot of lacrosse actually thought was one of the top 8 teams. Bowen is great, a better player than Carraway perhaps. I’m not trying to project tournament results but rather actual abilities, who beats who. If you think G’Town would be favored head to head on a neutral field vs all but 5 teams? Well, we disagree and the Vegas odds, such as they are for lacrosse, would disagree with you too.

Well I didn't necessarily say they should be 6, but 10-12 feels to low to me. Off the top of my head, 7-9 feels right. Let's say 8. I absolutely do think they will—and should—be favored on a neutral field vs. everyone 9 and below.

[bananas]

G-town was exposed and brutally outclassed by UVA. Disciplined and well rounded team but clear differences in overall talent. Believe Hop has scheduled Gtown. Favor JHU in that matchup despite placing G-town slightly higher .

Sybil was a disorganized train wreck last year, holes but some good talents , Gait and Petro might get them back on track. Like to see them back on RU schedule .