LarryGamLax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:25 am
DMac wrote the following :
"You going to tell me that the wlax you watch college girls play today isn't much closer to what you saw when
the WPLL introduced us to their version of the game? Possession clock, play on, kicking the ball, 3v3 on the draw?
Someone just woke up one day and said let's start playing this way in the college wlax game? Why the changes, where did they come from? You bet the WPLL had a big influence on the game we see the college wlaxers playing today. If that path isn't clear to you, I can't help you with it."
The path wasn't clear and you were correct in stating that you couldn't help me...so I did it myself. I was fairly sure about how rules are implemented in Women's Lax, but a little research made it Crystal clear.
To the point...WPLL, established in Feb. 2018 and played in June of 2018. They closed operations in August of 2020.
The following rules changes...Possession(or Shot Clock), Play-On, 3v3 Draw, Kicking Ball during groundballs and scrums...were passed by the rules committee in 2015 and implemented in 2017.
The WPLL had NOTHING to do with the changes that came to the sport...NOTHING, NADA, ZERO!
You posted this nearly six hours after aubartolomei's post and my recognizing and acknowledging that I was wrong about the WPLL being the league the new college rules came from so there was no need for the research or the NOTHING, NADA, ZERO. What I was right about is that the rule(s) changes came from pro women's lacrosse albeit the UWLX and not the WPLL. I clearly stated "my bad" as I was confused about what league the changes had come from. Truth be told I had kind of forgotten about the UWLX, what I hadn't forgotten though was the game I saw played by this league and my commenting at the time that I hope college wlax adopts these rules and plays this kind of wlax...and they pretty much have. So there, that's all cleared up now.
Now I am going to address your most incendiary and insulting comment, and it might get me suspended...but so be it.
DMac wrote this gem : "For one who espouses the promoting of women's sports you certainly aren't doing a very good job of that here, from insinuating (if not accusing) that players are put in positions because of color, to every reason in the world why a pro wlax league just isn't marketable.
You want to question my commitment to Women's athletics, you better go get some help because you alone ain't going to be enough. That's your opinion, okay. You want to challenge me about my view on the viability of a Women's Pro Lacrosse League? No problem, because again that's your opinion.
Not I, or anyone else, has ever questioned your commitment to women's athletics. What you clearly see in what you quoted from my post is that I said you certainly aren't doing a very good job of that here and you're not. Your first post about AU pro wlax, "Women's Pro Lacrosse...Dead Man Walking" (btw, a feminist might not like the way you worded that...jus' sayin'). You hiring a promoter of women's athletics with that kind of attitude/message about a venture into pro wlax? I'm not. Oh, and I don't need any help, I'm a big boy who can fight his own battles.
YOU ARE IN NO POSITION TO CHALLENGE ME about what I said about race and this sport!!
Oh, but I am. You cried wolf in Wood's case and questioned why she was playing where she was and suggested it was because of her color. I said at the time that I'd like to think she plays at the position she does because that's what she's best at and can most help a team from there. Turns out I was dead nuts right (this gal is not an O player...no doubt good enough to be in HS but not at this level), her color had nothing to do with where she was playing. NOTHING, NADA, ZERO. I didn't make that stuff up. I could reel off story after story about how it was when I first got involved and how it is now. Like I know that one of the AU Pro Lacrosse players dropped the N word a few years ago and now she is celebrated on the field. I had to grit my freakin teeth every time she scored because she NEVER paid the price for her transgression. I guess AU must have closed their eyes on this one when it came to that Mission Statement.
I have had more great experiences in this sport than bad, HOWEVER, I am not going to act like all has been great. I'm not going to pull the Sgt Schultz routine("I sawww Nothing, I heard Nothing) when I have a chance and a duty to speak out. You don't like it? Then put me on your Foe list and you don't have to read my Black thoughts.
Been around this game since the early '60s, was one of the unwashed masses who infiltrated the rich, elitist, white boy's game. You think I didn't experience the unwelcoming attitude of that crowd and their seeing themselves as the special chosen ones, you've got another guess coming. While we might have a long way to go with our racism issues in this country, I do believe we're heading in the right direction and making great strides (I lived through the 60s...and not as an infant...I've seen great progress and so have you). Crying wolf aint gonna help nuthin', brotha. Call it out and tell it like it is but I watched Wood play nearly every minute of every game, was blown away by her and have no question about whether or not her color had anything to do with where she was playing. I found your comment to be antagonistic and intentionally looking to stir up a little controversy. I guess it worked but that's not to say I don't see it as being out of line.
Aint no reason for any suspensions here...no flags gonna be thrown, no reason for it. Please, spare me the Foe list and Black thoughts thing, you know me much better than that.