All things CoronaVirus

[wgdsr]

Article says 95% of the patients do not need treatment. The remaining 5% deteriorate after 5-12 days due in part to the immune systems incorrect cytokine storm. This CD24 blocker appears to help the remaining 5%. If you can help 90% of that 5% that would be fantastic. At least that is how I interpreted it....

That's a good reading. Thanks.

However, the underlying reality is that close to all of the 5% are in the 5% for one reason. They failed to get vaxed.

Take the shot, and you'll have close to zero need for a Covid therapeutic.

nowhere close to all of the 5% are in the 5% for one reason. they're 80% adults vaxxed as a country. and seniors more than that.

[ggait]

The hospitalization rate for unvaxed is 39x higher than for vaxed.

The unvaxed basically are the 5% needing treatment are.

[Typical Lax Dad]

WWDD

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/18/asia/sin ... index.html

[Farfromgeneva]

WWDD

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/18/asia/sin ... index.html

Same country that whips kids for littering?

[Typical Lax Dad]

WWDD

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/18/asia/sin ... index.html

Same country that whips kids for littering?

Yep

[MDlaxfan76]

COVID: 90% of patients treated with new Israeli drug discharged in 5 days

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/co ... v0cCcJJ_Oc

That would certainly be very helpful if it plays out successfully in larger trails.

[MDlaxfan76]

Article says 95% of the patients do not need treatment. The remaining 5% deteriorate after 5-12 days due in part to the immune systems incorrect cytokine storm. This CD24 blocker appears to help the remaining 5%. If you can help 90% of that 5% that would be fantastic. At least that is how I interpreted it....

That's a good reading. Thanks.

However, the underlying reality is that close to all of the 5% are in the 5% for one reason. They failed to get vaxed.

Take the shot, and you'll have close to zero need for a Covid therapeutic.

nowhere close to all of the 5% are in the 5% for one reason. they're 80% adults vaxxed as a country. and seniors more than that.

I'm not able to parse your meaning with confidence.

80% means 20% not vaccinated, if seniors 90% then 10% not...who is getting most sick, vaccinated or unvaccinated?

Seems to me that we don't know for certain whether the 5% of this particular group are the unvaxxed or vaxxed, but we do know that in other groups, very few vaxxed are dying relative to the unvaxxed, much, much higher probability, if seriously sick that you were not vaccinated prior...seems like a pretty safe bet that the 5% is mostly if not all unvaxxed.

The math works just fine unless there are no unvaccinated people left...

[Brooklyn]

The hospitalization rate for unvaxed is 39x higher than for vaxed.

The unvaxed basically are the 5% needing treatment are.

The unvaxxed can use a little more of this:



https://i.imgur.com/oGRaNOs.png

[Farfromgeneva]

Dear Members of the Hobart and William Smith Community,

Even though it is technically still summer, as the first day of classes approaches, for those of us on the academic calendar, that is when it feels like autumn arrives. As the fall semester begins, I write to update you on various matters at the Colleges.

The pandemic and the COVID-19 delta variant continue to cast a long shadow over the world. Geneva has largely been spared the challenges that many other areas faced and continue to face. Nonetheless, it has required us to come up with a carefully considered approach to creating a safe campus space that supports both the community and individuals as each person considers what is best for themselves and for each other. The relatively high rate of vaccination locally and in New York State, along with the relatively small size of our college community and our strong ethos of mutual support, has led to our particular approach. Throughout this year, we have strongly encouraged and incentivized vaccination for our students and employees rather than forcing anyone to do so as a requirement for being a member of the community. This approach, to my mind, is consistent with the Colleges' general principle of relying on critical thinking and education of our community to achieve our goals, and is in keeping with our general liberal arts philosophy. I would not have taken this approach if I had not believed that we would be able to achieve a high vaccination rate, comparable to that of those schools that chose to use the approach of a mandate combined with exemptions. I have not been disappointed by the community's response. As of today, more than 96% of our students are vaccinated, and we continue to provide opportunities and support, including two upcoming on-campus vaccination clinics for additional members of the HWS and Geneva community to become vaccinated. We continue to stay vigilant regarding campus health and safety, including utilizing the tools of regular testing of unvaccinated students and currently an institution-wide masking requirement. Nonetheless, we are thrilled to be able to offer a significantly enhanced campus experience to our students and employees this year, including our full range of campus activities and increased mobility for our faculty, teams and others traveling in representation of the Colleges.

I have been thinking often over the past year about how to assist our community and our society to move beyond all-or-nothing thinking by developing the ability to respect gray areas and nuances, and toward the rejection of "if you're not with me, you're against me" approaches to difficult issues. Thanks to a generous gift from one of our alumnae, we are able to do more programmatically in this area: Dean of Students B.B. Barile and Vice President for Diversity Equity and Inclusion Khuram Hussain are jointly taking the lead on a project to move students toward the "gray" of open, adaptive and complex understandings of ourselves and our world. Our first-year students, along with their community assistants, will be introduced to a range of educational opportunities designed to support their capacity to engage across intellectual, cultural, racial and social differences and improve their abilities to both participate in constructive discourse and avoid unproductive conflict. These skills and dispositions are not only valuable for critical inquiry in college classrooms, but also essential for productive participation in wider campus and civic life.

Another such meeting point has been enabled by a new fund, the Stern Family Forum, created by Honorary Trustee Herbert J. Stern ’58, P’03, LL.D. ’74 and Trustee Samuel A. Stern ’03. Proceeds from this endowed fund will give our new Provost and Dean of Faculty Sarah Kirk, in conjunction with Professor of Philosophy Eric Barnes who is also the head of our Debate Team, and other steering committee members, the means to support one or more annual institutional forums that will enable constructive campus discourse on substantive topics. I’m grateful for our alums, parents and other supporters who make so many things possible for our students and community members.

The local, state and national political scenes continue to hold many points of relevance for higher education, much of which could serve as worthy topics for such campus discussions. Other topics seem straightforward in requiring our community's support. Earlier this week, I joined with the other New York Six Presidents in calling for the Federal Government to commit to doubling Pell grants. Our group has also advocated strongly for reducing barriers to international students, as they significantly enrich the culture of our campuses, and we hope to welcome more from a wide variety of nations to the Colleges in the years to come.

We made several exciting announcements over the summer that show the forward direction that the Colleges are taking. I am very excited about our new Master of Science in Management and Certificate in Management postgraduate opportunities and am eager to welcome our first class of master's students to campus next week. My deep thanks to Professor of Economics Tom Drennen for developing these initiatives and for agreeing to direct our new management program. This new program creates the possibility for motivated students to complete both a Bachelor's and a Master's degree within four years, thus adding significant value to the HWS experience. In addition, our announcement of adding 12 new and renewed sports over the next five years, along with the launching of varsity E-sports this fall, has been met with a high level of anticipation and enthusiasm by alums and prospective students alike. We continue to work on additional initiatives to add value, depth and enjoyment to the HWS experience.

As we prepare for a semester of both fun and serious activities, classes and events, we hope to see many alums and parents here on campus over the coming months. We look forward to welcoming you for Homecoming and Family Weekend Sept. 24-26, for an athletics or other school event, or just for a stop-by while you are in the area enjoying all that the Finger Lakes region has to offer. We will also be back out on the road over the months to come, for both alum receptions and other get-togethers and for our admissions team to visit high schools and college fairs across the country. And we are continuing to prepare for the 2022 Bicentennial of Hobart College, with announcements to follow of salient times to visit campus for festivities.

As I begin my third year at the Colleges, it is truly hard to believe how much has happened since I first arrived in the summer of 2019. Throughout both the high and low points, the HWS community has been inspiring and encouraging. Thank you for your continued support and caring.

Sincerely,

Joyce P. Jacobsen
President

[CU88]

Thursday just in: +1.02M doses reported administered, including 562K newly vaccinated. First 1M day reported in nearly seven weeks! 31% week-over week increase in the daily average of people completing their vaccine series, maximizing their protection against Delta.

[PizzaSnake]

FFF, any idea how representative is this photo for GA?

[Farfromgeneva]

FFF, any idea how representative is this photo for GA?

I don’t see it. Atlanta is geographical spread out like a Texas city so probably down by state Capitol I guess. This isn’t rampant all over the city for sure.

Much more focused on this lady trying to take down my kids school to protect her business interested wrapped around a bad but well intentioned decision during Covid a pretext for the assault on our community at the moment admittedly though.

Got a message the other day from daughters 2nd grade teacher about her mask slipping below her nose. We discussed it with her and have others if that wire is busted or warped now. Naturally taking after her mother she immediately started crying victim style like her mother until I settled her down explaining we were just discussing it and how to address it and then played ground ball scrum lacrosse with her to change her disposition. Nobody in our school district has said a word externally or in PTA about this being any type of controversial position though.

[wgdsr]

Article says 95% of the patients do not need treatment. The remaining 5% deteriorate after 5-12 days due in part to the immune systems incorrect cytokine storm. This CD24 blocker appears to help the remaining 5%. If you can help 90% of that 5% that would be fantastic. At least that is how I interpreted it....

That's a good reading. Thanks.

However, the underlying reality is that close to all of the 5% are in the 5% for one reason. They failed to get vaxed.

Take the shot, and you'll have close to zero need for a Covid therapeutic.

nowhere close to all of the 5% are in the 5% for one reason. they're 80% adults vaxxed as a country. and seniors more than that.

I'm not able to parse your meaning with confidence.

80% means 20% not vaccinated, if seniors 90% then 10% not...who is getting most sick, vaccinated or unvaccinated?

Seems to me that we don't know for certain whether the 5% of this particular group are the unvaxxed or vaxxed, but we do know that in other groups, very few vaxxed are dying relative to the unvaxxed, much, much higher probability, if seriously sick that you were not vaccinated prior...seems like a pretty safe bet that the 5% is mostly if not all unvaxxed.

The math works just fine unless there are no unvaccinated people left...

bart posted an article yesterday:

An interesting take on the data for waning efficacy in Israel.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/ ... vaccinated

imbedded in the article is a link to the israeli dashboard. not simple to skip around, particularly when it goes to hebrew (which i'm not fluent in, english is tough enough) and doesn't give you an easy option to google translate.
from the article, ~60% of severe cases in hospitals are vaccinated.
from the israeli dashboard -- seriously ill has jumped to 599 in the last couple days. total hospitalized has jumped from upper 800s to 1039 in 2 days.

other categories of illness/in hospital are slightly ill, mild and medium. this would be largely the group that checks out every 1-5+ days if i had to guess. and then rotates as the seriously and critically ill fight longer.

another article on the 59%, and other info:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08 ... feat-delta

[Typical Lax Dad]

Article says 95% of the patients do not need treatment. The remaining 5% deteriorate after 5-12 days due in part to the immune systems incorrect cytokine storm. This CD24 blocker appears to help the remaining 5%. If you can help 90% of that 5% that would be fantastic. At least that is how I interpreted it....

That's a good reading. Thanks.

However, the underlying reality is that close to all of the 5% are in the 5% for one reason. They failed to get vaxed.

Take the shot, and you'll have close to zero need for a Covid therapeutic.

nowhere close to all of the 5% are in the 5% for one reason. they're 80% adults vaxxed as a country. and seniors more than that.

I'm not able to parse your meaning with confidence.

80% means 20% not vaccinated, if seniors 90% then 10% not...who is getting most sick, vaccinated or unvaccinated?

Seems to me that we don't know for certain whether the 5% of this particular group are the unvaxxed or vaxxed, but we do know that in other groups, very few vaxxed are dying relative to the unvaxxed, much, much higher probability, if seriously sick that you were not vaccinated prior...seems like a pretty safe bet that the 5% is mostly if not all unvaxxed.

The math works just fine unless there are no unvaccinated people left...

bart posted an article yesterday:

An interesting take on the data for waning efficacy in Israel.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/ ... vaccinated

imbedded in the article is a link to the israeli dashboard. not simple to skip around, particularly when it goes to hebrew (which i'm not fluent in, english is tough enough) and doesn't give you an easy option to google translate.
from the article, ~60% of severe cases in hospitals are vaccinated.
from the israeli dashboard -- seriously ill has jumped to 599 in the last couple days. total hospitalized has jumped from upper 800s to 1039 in 2 days.

other categories of illness/in hospital are slightly ill, mild and medium. this would be largely the group that checks out every 1-5+ days if i had to guess. and then rotates as the seriously and critically ill fight longer.

another article on the 59%, and other info:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08 ... feat-delta

Staying away from people comes first but we don’t want to do that.

[wgdsr]

at least football is outdoors.

[Typical Lax Dad]

at least football is outdoors.

We can choose to reduce risk, if not eliminate risk. Lots of things we do is by choice. Not necessity. But my lifestyle is fairly simple. I don’t need much nor do I have much of a need to be served or entertained. Anyway….we will get through it.

[wgdsr]

at least football is outdoors.

We can choose to reduce risk, if not eliminate risk. Lots of things we do is by choice. Not necessity. But my lifestyle is fairly simple. I don’t need much nor do I have much of a need to be served or entertained. Anyway….we will get through it.

you say that like there's not another variant around the corner.
savings has jumped the last year and a half. at some point will have to blow it on something.

imma wait 'til we get the fence sitters, then start pumping monoclonals.

[Typical Lax Dad]

at least football is outdoors.

We can choose to reduce risk, if not eliminate risk. Lots of things we do is by choice. Not necessity. But my lifestyle is fairly simple. I don’t need much nor do I have much of a need to be served or entertained. Anyway….we will get through it.

you say that like there's not another variant around the corner.
savings has jumped the last year and a half. at some point will have to blow it on something.

imma wait 'til we get the fence sitters, then start pumping monoclonals.

I say it like there is another variant around the corner.

[wgdsr]

at least football is outdoors.

We can choose to reduce risk, if not eliminate risk. Lots of things we do is by choice. Not necessity. But my lifestyle is fairly simple. I don’t need much nor do I have much of a need to be served or entertained. Anyway….we will get through it.

you say that like there's not another variant around the corner.
savings has jumped the last year and a half. at some point will have to blow it on something.

imma wait 'til we get the fence sitters, then start pumping monoclonals.

I say it like there is another variant around the corner.

exactly. this is fun. why didn't you tell me to start doing this ages ago?

[Typical Lax Dad]

at least football is outdoors.

We can choose to reduce risk, if not eliminate risk. Lots of things we do is by choice. Not necessity. But my lifestyle is fairly simple. I don’t need much nor do I have much of a need to be served or entertained. Anyway….we will get through it.

you say that like there's not another variant around the corner.
savings has jumped the last year and a half. at some point will have to blow it on something.

imma wait 'til we get the fence sitters, then start pumping monoclonals.

I say it like there is another variant around the corner.

exactly. this is fun. why didn't you tell me to start doing this ages ago?

Nobody thought of it.