Pointing out what the DHS actually said & didn't say. ...they got nothin' but nutty, scary internet chatter.seacoaster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:08 amDo you have a point? Is this all not within DHS’s remit to report out the threads it is seeing by and hearing?old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:28 pmConspiracy theory about conspiracy theories --seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:23 am Terrific; now we all might reap what the GOP has sown:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... s-n1276567
Officials were clear that they have no intelligence of a specific domestic terrorism plot. But DHS leaders say they believe security agencies were unprepared for the Jan. 6 riot in part because they paid too little attention to violent and extremist rhetoric on social media.
In an effort to avoid repeating that mistake, the department is trying to sound the alarm among local police agencies about the potential for political violence.
DHS issued a so-called awareness bulletin... discussed the security climate... heightened terrorism-related threat environment...
“Currently, DHS lacks specific or credible reporting indicating that violent extremists are planning to target specific events,” the spokesperson added.
...the agency has watched conspiracy theories about the 2020 election migrate from obscure internet forums to more mainstream ones, and “we are concerned about calls to violence.”
The goal is to build a warning system to detect the sort of posts that appeared to predict an attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 but were missed or ignored by law enforcement and intelligence agencies, officials said.
“DHS is focused on the nexus between violence and extremist ideologies,” the spokesman said. “DHS does not monitor posts or engagements from individual people — rather DHS is focused on identifying and evaluating narratives and disinformation that may incite violence.”
January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
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Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Apparently like the "nuthin" they got leading up to Jan 6.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:07 pmPointing out what the DHS actually said & didn't say. ...they got nothin' but nutty, scary internet chatter.seacoaster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:08 amDo you have a point? Is this all not within DHS’s remit to report out the threads it is seeing by and hearing?old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:28 pmConspiracy theory about conspiracy theories --seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:23 am Terrific; now we all might reap what the GOP has sown:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... s-n1276567
Officials were clear that they have no intelligence of a specific domestic terrorism plot. But DHS leaders say they believe security agencies were unprepared for the Jan. 6 riot in part because they paid too little attention to violent and extremist rhetoric on social media.
In an effort to avoid repeating that mistake, the department is trying to sound the alarm among local police agencies about the potential for political violence.
DHS issued a so-called awareness bulletin... discussed the security climate... heightened terrorism-related threat environment...
“Currently, DHS lacks specific or credible reporting indicating that violent extremists are planning to target specific events,” the spokesperson added.
...the agency has watched conspiracy theories about the 2020 election migrate from obscure internet forums to more mainstream ones, and “we are concerned about calls to violence.”
The goal is to build a warning system to detect the sort of posts that appeared to predict an attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 but were missed or ignored by law enforcement and intelligence agencies, officials said.
“DHS is focused on the nexus between violence and extremist ideologies,” the spokesman said. “DHS does not monitor posts or engagements from individual people — rather DHS is focused on identifying and evaluating narratives and disinformation that may incite violence.”
At what level does rising volume of violent rhetoric "chatter" cause an alarm to go off?
When should it?
After the outburst?
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Had the Capitol been adequately & competently policed on Jan 6th, it would nave remained nutty chatter & just another politically inspiredMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:22 pmApparently like the "nuthin" they got leading up to Jan 6.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:07 pmPointing out what the DHS actually said & didn't say. ...they got nothin' but nutty, scary internet chatter.seacoaster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:08 amDo you have a point? Is this all not within DHS’s remit to report out the threads it is seeing by and hearing?old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:28 pmConspiracy theory about conspiracy theories --seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:23 am Terrific; now we all might reap what the GOP has sown:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... s-n1276567
Officials were clear that they have no intelligence of a specific domestic terrorism plot. But DHS leaders say they believe security agencies were unprepared for the Jan. 6 riot in part because they paid too little attention to violent and extremist rhetoric on social media.
In an effort to avoid repeating that mistake, the department is trying to sound the alarm among local police agencies about the potential for political violence.
DHS issued a so-called awareness bulletin... discussed the security climate... heightened terrorism-related threat environment...
“Currently, DHS lacks specific or credible reporting indicating that violent extremists are planning to target specific events,” the spokesperson added.
...the agency has watched conspiracy theories about the 2020 election migrate from obscure internet forums to more mainstream ones, and “we are concerned about calls to violence.”
The goal is to build a warning system to detect the sort of posts that appeared to predict an attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 but were missed or ignored by law enforcement and intelligence agencies, officials said.
“DHS is focused on the nexus between violence and extremist ideologies,” the spokesman said. “DHS does not monitor posts or engagements from individual people — rather DHS is focused on identifying and evaluating narratives and disinformation that may incite violence.”
At what level does rising volume of violent rhetoric "chatter" cause an alarm to go off?
When should it?
After the outburst?
ugly mob riot, without the arson & looting of private property.
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Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Thank you for your crystal ball. Sure. And then you’d have complained that “Pelosi” didn’t respect First Amendment rights. Either way, you find a way.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:21 pmHad the Capitol been adequately & competently policed on Jan 6th, it would nave remained nutty chatter & just another politically inspiredMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:22 pmApparently like the "nuthin" they got leading up to Jan 6.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:07 pmPointing out what the DHS actually said & didn't say. ...they got nothin' but nutty, scary internet chatter.seacoaster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:08 amDo you have a point? Is this all not within DHS’s remit to report out the threads it is seeing by and hearing?old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:28 pmConspiracy theory about conspiracy theories --seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:23 am Terrific; now we all might reap what the GOP has sown:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... s-n1276567
Officials were clear that they have no intelligence of a specific domestic terrorism plot. But DHS leaders say they believe security agencies were unprepared for the Jan. 6 riot in part because they paid too little attention to violent and extremist rhetoric on social media.
In an effort to avoid repeating that mistake, the department is trying to sound the alarm among local police agencies about the potential for political violence.
DHS issued a so-called awareness bulletin... discussed the security climate... heightened terrorism-related threat environment...
“Currently, DHS lacks specific or credible reporting indicating that violent extremists are planning to target specific events,” the spokesperson added.
...the agency has watched conspiracy theories about the 2020 election migrate from obscure internet forums to more mainstream ones, and “we are concerned about calls to violence.”
The goal is to build a warning system to detect the sort of posts that appeared to predict an attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 but were missed or ignored by law enforcement and intelligence agencies, officials said.
“DHS is focused on the nexus between violence and extremist ideologies,” the spokesman said. “DHS does not monitor posts or engagements from individual people — rather DHS is focused on identifying and evaluating narratives and disinformation that may incite violence.”
At what level does rising volume of violent rhetoric "chatter" cause an alarm to go off?
When should it?
After the outburst?
ugly mob riot, without the arson & looting of private property.
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Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
So what government building or citizens do we need to especially protect from this nutty chatter?old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:21 pmHad the Capitol been adequately & competently policed on Jan 6th, it would nave remained nutty chatter & just another politically inspiredMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:22 pmApparently like the "nuthin" they got leading up to Jan 6.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:07 pmPointing out what the DHS actually said & didn't say. ...they got nothin' but nutty, scary internet chatter.seacoaster wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:08 amDo you have a point? Is this all not within DHS’s remit to report out the threads it is seeing by and hearing?old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:28 pmConspiracy theory about conspiracy theories --seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:23 am Terrific; now we all might reap what the GOP has sown:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... s-n1276567
Officials were clear that they have no intelligence of a specific domestic terrorism plot. But DHS leaders say they believe security agencies were unprepared for the Jan. 6 riot in part because they paid too little attention to violent and extremist rhetoric on social media.
In an effort to avoid repeating that mistake, the department is trying to sound the alarm among local police agencies about the potential for political violence.
DHS issued a so-called awareness bulletin... discussed the security climate... heightened terrorism-related threat environment...
“Currently, DHS lacks specific or credible reporting indicating that violent extremists are planning to target specific events,” the spokesperson added.
...the agency has watched conspiracy theories about the 2020 election migrate from obscure internet forums to more mainstream ones, and “we are concerned about calls to violence.”
The goal is to build a warning system to detect the sort of posts that appeared to predict an attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 but were missed or ignored by law enforcement and intelligence agencies, officials said.
“DHS is focused on the nexus between violence and extremist ideologies,” the spokesman said. “DHS does not monitor posts or engagements from individual people — rather DHS is focused on identifying and evaluating narratives and disinformation that may incite violence.”
At what level does rising volume of violent rhetoric "chatter" cause an alarm to go off?
When should it?
After the outburst?
ugly mob riot, without the arson & looting of private property.
As you know, I disagree with your indictment of "competently policed" as the cause of the calamity, the insurrection against democracy that nearly succeeded (and would have had the DOJ caved, IMO)...I think that while there could have been more forces present and visible, it's not at all clear that would have prevented the violence, indeed for all we know, it might have been worse...
The cause of the calamity was driven by Trump and his sycophants, and all the idiots who supported him and the Big Lie. Pure and simple that's where fault lies. Any deflection from that reality is merely more air cover.
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I do find this attempt at a false equivalency of "politically inspired mob violence" between BLM and/or Antifa and an outright insurrection to be particularly offensive and quite wrong.
The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
The insurrection was entirely about partisan power, including at the expense of the fundamentals of democracy, the peaceful transfer of power through elections.
The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
The insurrection was entirely about partisan power, including at the expense of the fundamentals of democracy, the peaceful transfer of power through elections.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
...which DC street will Mayor Bowser convert to "STOP THE STEEL" square.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:10 am The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
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Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
The one adjacent to “STOP THE STUPID AVENUE”.old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:54 am...which DC street will Mayor Bowser convert to "STOP THE STEEL" square.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:10 am The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
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Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:54 am...which DC street will Mayor Bowser convert to "STOP THE STEEL" square.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:10 am The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
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Do you really believe this nonsensical post is funny or makes a valid point or are you just trying to get under others' skin?old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:54 am...which DC street will Mayor Bowser convert to "STOP THE STEEL" square.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:10 am The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
BLM and Antifa are not about, nor motivated by, partisan power. I'm a Republican and I, like Mitt Romney, support the message of BLM; I'm also anti-fascist, and anti-white supremacy...and yeah, I'm a Republican. I don't support violent means to achieve these objectives, and I'm a Republican...the Republican aspect isn't related to any of these views.
The Insurrection was explicitly about partisan power. Pure and simple, nothing else.
Now, underlying that extreme effort to achieve partisan power are also some pretty gross ideological views and, thus, it was also, at least for many of the participants, an expression of anger and resentment about the loss, or perceived loss, or just the potential for loss, of white supremacist privileges. Yup.
But the specific effort was about partisan power. Anti-democracy.
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Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
If a street name changes but a man is afraid to walk down said city streets did the name really change?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:16 pmold salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:54 am...which DC street will Mayor Bowser convert to "STOP THE STEEL" square.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:10 am The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
FarfromG c 2021
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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It’s just dumb except to a certain type of person. What’s funny is his hourglass running out. That was good.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:25 pmDo you really believe this nonsensical post is funny or makes a valid point or are you just trying to get under others' skin?old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:54 am...which DC street will Mayor Bowser convert to "STOP THE STEEL" square.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:10 am The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
BLM and Antifa are not about, nor motivated by, partisan power. I'm a Republican and I, like Mitt Romney, support the message of BLM; I'm also anti-fascist, and anti-white supremacy...and yeah, I'm a Republican. I don't support violent means to achieve these objectives, and I'm a Republican...the Republican aspect isn't related to any of these views.
The Insurrection was explicitly about partisan power. Pure and simple, nothing else.
Now, underlying that extreme effort to achieve partisan power are also some pretty gross ideological views and, thus, it was also, at least for many of the participants, an expression of anger and resentment about the loss, or perceived loss, or just the potential for loss, of white supremacist privileges. Yup.
But the specific effort was about partisan power. Anti-democracy.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Now JD Vance is to the rescue.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:09 pmIt’s just dumb except to a certain type of person. What’s funny is his hourglass running out. That was good.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:25 pmDo you really believe this nonsensical post is funny or makes a valid point or are you just trying to get under others' skin?old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:54 am...which DC street will Mayor Bowser convert to "STOP THE STEEL" square.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:10 am The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
BLM and Antifa are not about, nor motivated by, partisan power. I'm a Republican and I, like Mitt Romney, support the message of BLM; I'm also anti-fascist, and anti-white supremacy...and yeah, I'm a Republican. I don't support violent means to achieve these objectives, and I'm a Republican...the Republican aspect isn't related to any of these views.
The Insurrection was explicitly about partisan power. Pure and simple, nothing else.
Now, underlying that extreme effort to achieve partisan power are also some pretty gross ideological views and, thus, it was also, at least for many of the participants, an expression of anger and resentment about the loss, or perceived loss, or just the potential for loss, of white supremacist privileges. Yup.
But the specific effort was about partisan power. Anti-democracy.
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Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Is that this guy?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:17 pmNow JD Vance is to the rescue.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:09 pmIt’s just dumb except to a certain type of person. What’s funny is his hourglass running out. That was good.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:25 pmDo you really believe this nonsensical post is funny or makes a valid point or are you just trying to get under others' skin?old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:54 am...which DC street will Mayor Bowser convert to "STOP THE STEEL" square.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:10 am The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
BLM and Antifa are not about, nor motivated by, partisan power. I'm a Republican and I, like Mitt Romney, support the message of BLM; I'm also anti-fascist, and anti-white supremacy...and yeah, I'm a Republican. I don't support violent means to achieve these objectives, and I'm a Republican...the Republican aspect isn't related to any of these views.
The Insurrection was explicitly about partisan power. Pure and simple, nothing else.
Now, underlying that extreme effort to achieve partisan power are also some pretty gross ideological views and, thus, it was also, at least for many of the participants, an expression of anger and resentment about the loss, or perceived loss, or just the potential for loss, of white supremacist privileges. Yup.
But the specific effort was about partisan power. Anti-democracy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hkQQGsOegv0
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Classic!Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:20 pmIs that this guy?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:17 pmNow JD Vance is to the rescue.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:09 pmIt’s just dumb except to a certain type of person. What’s funny is his hourglass running out. That was good.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:25 pmDo you really believe this nonsensical post is funny or makes a valid point or are you just trying to get under others' skin?old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:54 am...which DC street will Mayor Bowser convert to "STOP THE STEEL" square.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:10 am The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
BLM and Antifa are not about, nor motivated by, partisan power. I'm a Republican and I, like Mitt Romney, support the message of BLM; I'm also anti-fascist, and anti-white supremacy...and yeah, I'm a Republican. I don't support violent means to achieve these objectives, and I'm a Republican...the Republican aspect isn't related to any of these views.
The Insurrection was explicitly about partisan power. Pure and simple, nothing else.
Now, underlying that extreme effort to achieve partisan power are also some pretty gross ideological views and, thus, it was also, at least for many of the participants, an expression of anger and resentment about the loss, or perceived loss, or just the potential for loss, of white supremacist privileges. Yup.
But the specific effort was about partisan power. Anti-democracy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hkQQGsOegv0
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This looks familiar! He needs to put his feet up on the desk!!
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Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
How about Antifa Alley ? If the MAGAQ Patriots are going to match BLM & Antifa, they need to up their game, add arson & looting, & kill a cop like David Dorn.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:25 pmDo you really believe this nonsensical post is funny or makes a valid point or are you just trying to get under others' skin?old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:54 am...which DC street will Mayor Bowser convert to "STOP THE STEEL" square.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:10 am The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
BLM and Antifa are not about, nor motivated by, partisan power.
Equal justice for all :
blm rioters charges dropped
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Funny thing about DC is the alley and diagonal streets were designed to create Sub communities. A friend who lived in tenleytown was a dc history buff and lived it in his backyard where only in the 2000s did folks start putting back fences up, previously weekends were like neighborhood cookouts. So the alley system is already designed with social organizational intent but it failed eventually.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Or the reverse, maybe Antifa needs to attack the Capitol, try to kill all the MAGA Senators and Representatives and track down all their toady enablers; meanwhile BLM can focus on Mara Lago etc.old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:44 pmHow about Antifa Alley ? If the MAGAQ Patriots are going to match BLM & Antifa, they need to up their game, add arson & looting, & kill a cop like David Dorn.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:25 pmDo you really believe this nonsensical post is funny or makes a valid point or are you just trying to get under others' skin?old salt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:54 am...which DC street will Mayor Bowser convert to "STOP THE STEEL" square.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:10 am The issues that BLM and Antifa are motivated by are not about partisan power.
They may find more support from the members of one political party than another, but they're not about partisan power.
BLM and Antifa are not about, nor motivated by, partisan power.
Equal justice for all :
blm rioters charges dropped
And then declare the Democrats the victors in all State races. Make it about partisan power.
This stuff you are posting Salty is really offensive.
I guess that's your intent.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
DON’T IGNORE WHAT TREVOR MCFADDEN HAS TO SAY ABOUT JANUARY 6
McFadden is a judge that Orange Cheeto appointed...
McFadden is a judge that Orange Cheeto appointed...
..McFadden based his decision on this point in part on separation of powers (the basis for some of his decisions that have been deemed pro-Trump) and presumption of regularity, as well as basic facts. He deemed reasonable the possibility that prosecutors viewed Griffin’s leadership role to be more important to prosecute. He suggested he might sentence Griffin (if he were found guilty) leniently based on a comparison with similarly situated protestors against Kavanugh. But he also based his decision on the notion that Griffin’s threats of violence (raised in a detention challenge conducted before Michael Sherwin departed) could pose a genuine concern to the government.
McFadden is not treating this investigation as a witch hunt against people with right wing views.
But at the same time, McFadden has deviated from his colleagues’ more alarmist language to refer to January 6. At least twice in hearings (including on this Griffin challenge), McFadden admonished an AUSA who referred to January 6 as an insurrection. Have you charged anyone with insurrection, McFadden rightly asked. In a court room, these are not empty terms. They are also names of crimes. And DOJ needs to be careful not to accuse these defendants of crimes that — for whatever reason — they haven’t charged.
It’s not that McFadden thinks January 6 was not serious. In the same Hale-Cusanelli hearing, he described, “Obviously, the January 6th riot was a serious and sui generis threat to our country’s body politic.” But thus far (he has not presided over any of the six cases that have been sentenced yet), he has adopted a more moderate tone in discussing the event.
"The purpose of writing is to inflate weak ideas, obscure poor reasoning, and inhibit clarity. With a little practice, writing can be an intimidating and impenetrable fog." - Calvin, to Hobbes