All things CoronaVirus

[wgdsr]

In other news, 385,000 went to Lollapalooza without it turning into a super spreader (claimed).

The claim is well documented.

No masks, outside, all attendees required to furnish vax proof or neg test results.

So kinda like now Obama's big party was done. And probably not like how Sturgis is being done...

marlon said it was a mistake.

[ggait]

"Intl visitors" from where?

Reports were that Colombians flooded into FL in May to get free vax shots courtesy of the US government.

If the FL natives weren't going to take the shots, it is probably a good thing that someone showed up to take them. Also probably good for the home country that those people got vaxed.

But highly ironic given Ron D's whining about how Biden opened up the Covid floodgates along the border. And TBD if that Colombian influx might have juiced some Covid spreading.



On April 30, Florida ended its requirement that people prove state residence in order to get vaccinated. Suddenly in May, nearly 170,000 Colombians traveled to the U.S. — a 75% increase over the previous month. Mejía recalls nurses joking about it at Markham Park in Sunrise, where she got her Pfizer shots.

“Oof, the people who would vaccinate us would laugh and say, ‘Oh, some more Colombians are coming!" Mejía said. "They'd say, 'We just vaccinated I don’t know how many Colombians.'”

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/health/f ... index.html

that's just an amazing article.
-"rapid response"units running around fla.
-future "strike teams" deploying to long term care facilities. that honestly sounds awesome.
-an imbedded video from a mom suing on school masks, "it terrifies me".
-the obligatory ventilators have been requested, gov saying he doubts it, health services confirming but saying they were good anyway.

what more do you want? i have to say, this one is desantis 1, detractors 0. throwing in "rapid response" units and "strike teams"? you never had a chance.

Good to hear that he finally admits they have a very serious challenge.

Sounds like those measures could be helpful if actually executed well. But they're aimed merely at saving a life, not preventing the damage from a serious bout with the virus.

It may very help with the death rate; a positive for sure...which would be good for him politically.

However, prevention of spread remains the #1 way to beat the virus and on that he's miserable and continues to be.

... what is interesting is the fact that the state's vaxx rate is middle of the pack, not bottom of the cohort of states, like the other seriously challenged. Speculation is that the meaningful vaxx rate is not as good as is being advertised. It is noted that they vaccinated a lot of snow birds and international visitors. Their black citizens have the worst numbers of all their demographics.

are there numbers on the snow birds and intl visitors? would be interesting to know.

"Intl visitors" from where?

... where else - from International

Did you post a break down of vaccine uptake and hesitancy by race/income/political party affiliation? I don’t remember where I saw it.

the largest group was white republican males.

Wasn’t what I was looking for.

[dislaxxic]

[Farfromgeneva]

This is pretty funny.

Just don’t mock Margot Robbie dammit!

[Typical Lax Dad]

Maskhole is the best. Extremely clever all the way around.

[PizzaSnake]

Maskhole is the best. Extremely clever all the way around.

Funny but not amusing.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Maskhole is the best. Extremely clever all the way around.

Funny but not amusing.

Fact Cather is classic. “Do your own research”


“The cost of developing a single epidemic infectious disease vaccine from preclinical trials through to end of phase 2a is US$31–68 million (US$14–159 million range), assuming no risk of failure.”

[CU88]

HUGE VACCINE DAY.

918,000 doses administered.

Single biggest day in over a month.

[wgdsr]

HUGE VACCINE DAY.

918,000 doses administered.

Single biggest day in over a month.

i mean great news, could be some reporting lag, but the trends remain clear from last spring. get scared, adjust behavior.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/us/reno- ... index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/us/schoo ... index.html

People have rights to not be vaccinated, not to wear a mask and not social distance….teacher unions are the real problem.

[wgdsr]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/us/reno- ... index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/us/schoo ... index.html

People have rights to not be vaccinated, not to wear a mask and not social distance….teacher unions are the real problem.

sounds like principal brandon bringhurst says if you're vaxxed, you're good.
is he crossing union lines?

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/us/reno- ... index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/us/schoo ... index.html

People have rights to not be vaccinated, not to wear a mask and not social distance….teacher unions are the real problem.

sounds like principal brandon bringhurst says if you're vaxxed, you're good.
is he crossing union lines?

Might be. Not sure. There is a segment of the population that usually sides with the common worker and not the out of touch higher up bosses/management. Until they need a babysitter. A vaccine and a masks isn’t asking for much. It beats staying at home.

[Brooklyn]

New COVID cases in US soar 700% week-over-week since July 1, CDC says


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-c ... hp&pc=U531


Since July 1, there's been a 700% increase in the week-over-week average of COVID-19 infections in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


The information was presented Friday at CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices meeting during a discussion of COVID-19 vaccine booster shots for immunocompromised patients.

"There's no doubt we're seeing a surge in cases now," said Dr. William Moss, a professor of epidemiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

The United States was at a low point in new cases in late June, with an average of about 10,000 a day. Today the average is closer to 125,000 a day, he said

"That’s when people in this country became really optimistic. The combination of the delta variant, susceptibility due to relatively low vaccination coverage, some relaxing of our public health measures, these all came together and we're seeing this wave," Moss said.

The delta variant is nearly twice as contagious as previous variants and there is some evidence of increased illness severity compared with previous strains in unvaccinated people, CDC epidemiologist Heather Scobie said at Friday's meeting.

Full vaccinated people infected with the delta variant can spread the virus to others but appear to be infectious for a shorter period of time than unvaccinated people infected with the variant, she said.

In the first 12 days of August, the United States reported more coronavirus cases than it did in all of July, according a USA TODAY analysis of Johns Hopkins University data.

That's 1.33 million cases. At this month's average rate, the country would report some 3.4 million cases, making it the fourth-worst month of the entire pandemic.

"There's bad news and there's less bad news," is how Andrew Noymer, a professor of population health at the University of California, Irvine, put it.

Because older people, who are at higher risk for severe disease and death, are now highly vaccinated, "100,000 cases today is less dire than 100,000 in December of 2020," he said.

That means cases are more concentrated in younger people, who are less likely to be vaccinated. Younger people are less likely to become severely ill "but this isn't a nothing burger," Noymer said. Hospitalizations are still high.

He looked up the numbers in his county a year ago and there were 722 people hospitalized for COVID-19. This week there are 497 hospitalizations in Orange County.

"We have a vaccine that works wonderfully now," he said, "so our peak shouldn't be five-sevenths as big as the previous summer."

The U.S. numbers parallel what was seen in the United Kingdom and in Israel when the extremely transmissible delta variant hit those nations, said Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease expert at the University of California, San Francisco.

"The only small comfort is that in areas of higher vaccination in our country, hospitalizations are not following the trend of cases to the same degree as in prior surges without vaccination," she said.

Immunity moving forward
CDC staff also presented data giving insight into the evolving pandemic. The available data shows the persistence of protective antibodies eight months after an infection and six months after the second shot of either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines and eight months after a single Johnson & Johnson shot.

That's not because natural infection is more protective but simply because vaccinations only began in December so there is very little data.

It appears vaccine effectiveness against infection with COVID-19 does wane over time, but how much and in whom isn't yet entirely clear.

Even so, protection against severe illness remains very high. For Pfizer, it is 97% and for Moderna it's 93%, CDC said.

There is some data emerging from Israel of more breakthrough infections among people vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine in January and February than in recent months.

There was a more than two-fold increased risk for breakthrough infections between people vaccinated in January versus those vaccinated in April, Israeli data showed.

The older the person, the more chance they would have an infection.

Scobie emphasized an infection is different from becoming severely ill or dying.

As of Aug. 2, among more than 164 million fully vaccinated people in the United States, there were 7,101 hospitalizations and 1,507 deaths.

Such severe or deadly breakthrough infections in vaccinated people were much more likely to occur in older people. CDC reported that 74% of those cases were in people over 65.

It's not clear if that's because people over 65 were first in line to be vaccinated and therefore their immunity might be waning over time, or if because of their age their immune systems are less robust.

Among people 18 and over, approximately 32% of all vaccinated breakthrough cases were in immunocompromised individuals, compared with approximately 11% of unvaccinated cases.

The CDC's advisory committee will meet again Aug. 24 to discuss incoming data about the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccines, enduring immunity and the possible need for booster doses.

The pandemic, said Noymer, appears far from over.

"We should say we’re in the throes of a pandemic, not that we’re in the middle of it," he said. "The middle of something implies that we’re halfway there, and I don’t know that that’s true."





Because of right wing stupidity and myth making the covid menace will not go away. Thousands more die or become debilitated and society suffers even greater loss of productivity.


Went shopping today and noticed that many food shelves were empty. Many aisles looked like they did last year when the covid crisis started to accelerate. At the pharmacy part of the store, you could not find rubbing alcohol or witch hazel as well as other important ointments. The confidence that we had about ending the crisis just a few months ago is over. People are scared, once again. All this thanks to those Republicans who don't give a shttt about anyone other than their selfish selves.

[Typical Lax Dad]

New COVID cases in US soar 700% week-over-week since July 1, CDC says


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-c ... hp&pc=U531


Since July 1, there's been a 700% increase in the week-over-week average of COVID-19 infections in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


The information was presented Friday at CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices meeting during a discussion of COVID-19 vaccine booster shots for immunocompromised patients.

"There's no doubt we're seeing a surge in cases now," said Dr. William Moss, a professor of epidemiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

The United States was at a low point in new cases in late June, with an average of about 10,000 a day. Today the average is closer to 125,000 a day, he said

"That’s when people in this country became really optimistic. The combination of the delta variant, susceptibility due to relatively low vaccination coverage, some relaxing of our public health measures, these all came together and we're seeing this wave," Moss said.

The delta variant is nearly twice as contagious as previous variants and there is some evidence of increased illness severity compared with previous strains in unvaccinated people, CDC epidemiologist Heather Scobie said at Friday's meeting.

Full vaccinated people infected with the delta variant can spread the virus to others but appear to be infectious for a shorter period of time than unvaccinated people infected with the variant, she said.

In the first 12 days of August, the United States reported more coronavirus cases than it did in all of July, according a USA TODAY analysis of Johns Hopkins University data.

That's 1.33 million cases. At this month's average rate, the country would report some 3.4 million cases, making it the fourth-worst month of the entire pandemic.

"There's bad news and there's less bad news," is how Andrew Noymer, a professor of population health at the University of California, Irvine, put it.

Because older people, who are at higher risk for severe disease and death, are now highly vaccinated, "100,000 cases today is less dire than 100,000 in December of 2020," he said.

That means cases are more concentrated in younger people, who are less likely to be vaccinated. Younger people are less likely to become severely ill "but this isn't a nothing burger," Noymer said. Hospitalizations are still high.

He looked up the numbers in his county a year ago and there were 722 people hospitalized for COVID-19. This week there are 497 hospitalizations in Orange County.

"We have a vaccine that works wonderfully now," he said, "so our peak shouldn't be five-sevenths as big as the previous summer."

The U.S. numbers parallel what was seen in the United Kingdom and in Israel when the extremely transmissible delta variant hit those nations, said Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease expert at the University of California, San Francisco.

"The only small comfort is that in areas of higher vaccination in our country, hospitalizations are not following the trend of cases to the same degree as in prior surges without vaccination," she said.

Immunity moving forward
CDC staff also presented data giving insight into the evolving pandemic. The available data shows the persistence of protective antibodies eight months after an infection and six months after the second shot of either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines and eight months after a single Johnson & Johnson shot.

That's not because natural infection is more protective but simply because vaccinations only began in December so there is very little data.

It appears vaccine effectiveness against infection with COVID-19 does wane over time, but how much and in whom isn't yet entirely clear.

Even so, protection against severe illness remains very high. For Pfizer, it is 97% and for Moderna it's 93%, CDC said.

There is some data emerging from Israel of more breakthrough infections among people vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine in January and February than in recent months.

There was a more than two-fold increased risk for breakthrough infections between people vaccinated in January versus those vaccinated in April, Israeli data showed.

The older the person, the more chance they would have an infection.

Scobie emphasized an infection is different from becoming severely ill or dying.

As of Aug. 2, among more than 164 million fully vaccinated people in the United States, there were 7,101 hospitalizations and 1,507 deaths.

Such severe or deadly breakthrough infections in vaccinated people were much more likely to occur in older people. CDC reported that 74% of those cases were in people over 65.

It's not clear if that's because people over 65 were first in line to be vaccinated and therefore their immunity might be waning over time, or if because of their age their immune systems are less robust.

Among people 18 and over, approximately 32% of all vaccinated breakthrough cases were in immunocompromised individuals, compared with approximately 11% of unvaccinated cases.

The CDC's advisory committee will meet again Aug. 24 to discuss incoming data about the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccines, enduring immunity and the possible need for booster doses.

The pandemic, said Noymer, appears far from over.

"We should say we’re in the throes of a pandemic, not that we’re in the middle of it," he said. "The middle of something implies that we’re halfway there, and I don’t know that that’s true."





Because of right wing stupidity and myth making the covid menace will not go away. Thousands more die or become debilitated and society suffers even greater loss of productivity.


Went shopping today and noticed that many food shelves were empty. Many aisles looked like they did last year when the covid crisis started to accelerate. At the pharmacy part of the store, you could not find rubbing alcohol or witch hazel as well as other important ointments. The confidence that we had about ending the crisis just a few months ago is over. People are scared, once again. All this thanks to those Republicans who don't give a shttt about anyone other than their selfish selves.

Like I was afraid of, we may have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/13/us/teach ... index.html

Teachers need hazard pay.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/us/cobb- ... index.html

[wgdsr]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/us/reno- ... index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/us/schoo ... index.html

People have rights to not be vaccinated, not to wear a mask and not social distance….teacher unions are the real problem.

sounds like principal brandon bringhurst says if you're vaxxed, you're good.
is he crossing union lines?

Might be. Not sure. There is a segment of the population that usually sides with the common worker and not the out of touch higher up bosses/management. Until they need a babysitter. A vaccine and a masks isn’t asking for much. It beats staying at home.

you forgot social distancing and washing hands. i can see how you did that, though.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/us/reno- ... index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/us/schoo ... index.html

People have rights to not be vaccinated, not to wear a mask and not social distance….teacher unions are the real problem.

sounds like principal brandon bringhurst says if you're vaxxed, you're good.
is he crossing union lines?

Might be. Not sure. There is a segment of the population that usually sides with the common worker and not the out of touch higher up bosses/management. Until they need a babysitter. A vaccine and a masks isn’t asking for much. It beats staying at home.

you forgot social distancing and washing hands. i can see how you did that, though.

Yes…those two things also. If putting a mask on my kids will get them in the building, I might put two on them…. You letting someone spend the day in your house if they tell you they have covid? I am not. Even if they have a mask on.

[wgdsr]

New COVID cases in US soar 700% week-over-week since July 1, CDC says


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-c ... hp&pc=U531


Since July 1, there's been a 700% increase in the week-over-week average of COVID-19 infections in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


The information was presented Friday at CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices meeting during a discussion of COVID-19 vaccine booster shots for immunocompromised patients.

"There's no doubt we're seeing a surge in cases now," said Dr. William Moss, a professor of epidemiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

The United States was at a low point in new cases in late June, with an average of about 10,000 a day. Today the average is closer to 125,000 a day, he said

"That’s when people in this country became really optimistic. The combination of the delta variant, susceptibility due to relatively low vaccination coverage, some relaxing of our public health measures, these all came together and we're seeing this wave," Moss said.

The delta variant is nearly twice as contagious as previous variants and there is some evidence of increased illness severity compared with previous strains in unvaccinated people, CDC epidemiologist Heather Scobie said at Friday's meeting.

Full vaccinated people infected with the delta variant can spread the virus to others but appear to be infectious for a shorter period of time than unvaccinated people infected with the variant, she said.

In the first 12 days of August, the United States reported more coronavirus cases than it did in all of July, according a USA TODAY analysis of Johns Hopkins University data.

That's 1.33 million cases. At this month's average rate, the country would report some 3.4 million cases, making it the fourth-worst month of the entire pandemic.

"There's bad news and there's less bad news," is how Andrew Noymer, a professor of population health at the University of California, Irvine, put it.

Because older people, who are at higher risk for severe disease and death, are now highly vaccinated, "100,000 cases today is less dire than 100,000 in December of 2020," he said.

That means cases are more concentrated in younger people, who are less likely to be vaccinated. Younger people are less likely to become severely ill "but this isn't a nothing burger," Noymer said. Hospitalizations are still high.

He looked up the numbers in his county a year ago and there were 722 people hospitalized for COVID-19. This week there are 497 hospitalizations in Orange County.

"We have a vaccine that works wonderfully now," he said, "so our peak shouldn't be five-sevenths as big as the previous summer."

The U.S. numbers parallel what was seen in the United Kingdom and in Israel when the extremely transmissible delta variant hit those nations, said Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease expert at the University of California, San Francisco.

"The only small comfort is that in areas of higher vaccination in our country, hospitalizations are not following the trend of cases to the same degree as in prior surges without vaccination," she said.

Immunity moving forward
CDC staff also presented data giving insight into the evolving pandemic. The available data shows the persistence of protective antibodies eight months after an infection and six months after the second shot of either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines and eight months after a single Johnson & Johnson shot.

That's not because natural infection is more protective but simply because vaccinations only began in December so there is very little data.

It appears vaccine effectiveness against infection with COVID-19 does wane over time, but how much and in whom isn't yet entirely clear.

Even so, protection against severe illness remains very high. For Pfizer, it is 97% and for Moderna it's 93%, CDC said.

There is some data emerging from Israel of more breakthrough infections among people vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine in January and February than in recent months.

There was a more than two-fold increased risk for breakthrough infections between people vaccinated in January versus those vaccinated in April, Israeli data showed.

The older the person, the more chance they would have an infection.

Scobie emphasized an infection is different from becoming severely ill or dying.

As of Aug. 2, among more than 164 million fully vaccinated people in the United States, there were 7,101 hospitalizations and 1,507 deaths.

Such severe or deadly breakthrough infections in vaccinated people were much more likely to occur in older people. CDC reported that 74% of those cases were in people over 65.

It's not clear if that's because people over 65 were first in line to be vaccinated and therefore their immunity might be waning over time, or if because of their age their immune systems are less robust.

Among people 18 and over, approximately 32% of all vaccinated breakthrough cases were in immunocompromised individuals, compared with approximately 11% of unvaccinated cases.

The CDC's advisory committee will meet again Aug. 24 to discuss incoming data about the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccines, enduring immunity and the possible need for booster doses.

The pandemic, said Noymer, appears far from over.

"We should say we’re in the throes of a pandemic, not that we’re in the middle of it," he said. "The middle of something implies that we’re halfway there, and I don’t know that that’s true."





Because of right wing stupidity and myth making the covid menace will not go away. Thousands more die or become debilitated and society suffers even greater loss of productivity.


Went shopping today and noticed that many food shelves were empty. Many aisles looked like they did last year when the covid crisis started to accelerate. At the pharmacy part of the store, you could not find rubbing alcohol or witch hazel as well as other important ointments. The confidence that we had about ending the crisis just a few months ago is over. People are scared, once again. All this thanks to those Republicans who don't give a shttt about anyone other than their selfish selves.

Like I was afraid of, we may have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

what should have been done differently?

[wgdsr]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/us/reno- ... index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/us/schoo ... index.html

People have rights to not be vaccinated, not to wear a mask and not social distance….teacher unions are the real problem.

sounds like principal brandon bringhurst says if you're vaxxed, you're good.
is he crossing union lines?

Might be. Not sure. There is a segment of the population that usually sides with the common worker and not the out of touch higher up bosses/management. Until they need a babysitter. A vaccine and a masks isn’t asking for much. It beats staying at home.

you forgot social distancing and washing hands. i can see how you did that, though.

Yes…those two things also. If putting a mask on my kids will get them in the building, I might put two on them…. You letting someone spend the day in your house if they tell you they have covid? I am not. Even if they have a mask on.

what does putting a "mask" on have to do with letting someone spend the day in my house if they tell me they have covid?