Conservative Ideology 2024: NOTHING BUT LIES AND FEARMONGERING

[Peter Brown]

Petey pumped this stock pretty hard, if I recall.

Feb 26 the stock was about 70, went to 83 on pandemic first wave, then dropped.

Sounds like she, too, like Petey, didn't sell on the high and instead rode it down.

I’m not sure I share with you my personal account trades. Have I? Are you familiar with my every investment decision? It certainly sounds like you are.

[old salt]

"Sen. Rand Paul revealed Wednesday that his wife bought stock in Gilead Sciences — which makes an antiviral drug used to treat covid-19 — on Feb. 26, 2020, before the threat from the coronavirus was fully understood by the public and before it was classified as a pandemic by the World Health Organization

BS. When I drove my wife to BWI on 1/18/20 to catch her snowbird flight to JAX, I told her I was glad we had a car in St Augustine, because she'd be driving home. We have long been over-invested in biotech, especially ILMN. I was planning to start divesting in ' 20, but decided to hold as soon as I saw the CCP building field hospitals & welding apt doors closed in Wuhan. It was insider info only if you had your head up your ass.

[seacoaster]

"Sen. Rand Paul revealed Wednesday that his wife bought stock in Gilead Sciences — which makes an antiviral drug used to treat covid-19 — on Feb. 26, 2020, before the threat from the coronavirus was fully understood by the public and before it was classified as a pandemic by the World Health Organization

BS. When I drove my wife to BWI on 1/18/20 to catch her snowbird flight to JAX, I told her I was glad we had a car in St Augustine, because she'd be driving home. We have long been over-invested in biotech, especially ILMN. I was planning to start divesting in ' 20, but decided to hold as soon as I saw the CCP building field hospitals & welding apt doors closed in Wuhan. It was insider info only if you had your head up your ass.

You may be right; I don't have the timeline. Like most Americans, I guess I was an ostrich, and really didn't understand that the coronavirus was the pandemic it would become until early- to mid-March. All your cute little rant shows is that there is a question of fact about why she made the purchase then, whether she was in the habit of purchasing life sciences issues, etc.

[MDlaxfan76]

Petey pumped this stock pretty hard, if I recall.

Feb 26 the stock was about 70, went to 83 on pandemic first wave, then dropped.

Sounds like she, too, like Petey, didn't sell on the high and instead rode it down.

I’m not sure I share with you my personal account trades. Have I? Are you familiar with my every investment decision? It certainly sounds like you are.

You told us about this stock over and over and over again, predicting astronomical highs that never materialized and kept on touting it as it fell...maybe you were BS'ng us (gee that wouldn't be new!) but if I recall correctly you told us you'd bought the stock at a particular price and were crowing about its immediate rise....and then kept telling us about it long after it fell, claiming it would return to ever new heights...just one of a slew of ridiculous predictions, establishing such as a clear signal to bet the other way the surer your claims...

[MDlaxfan76]

"Sen. Rand Paul revealed Wednesday that his wife bought stock in Gilead Sciences — which makes an antiviral drug used to treat covid-19 — on Feb. 26, 2020, before the threat from the coronavirus was fully understood by the public and before it was classified as a pandemic by the World Health Organization

BS. When I drove my wife to BWI on 1/18/20 to catch her snowbird flight to JAX, I told her I was glad we had a car in St Augustine, because she'd be driving home. We have long been over-invested in biotech, especially ILMN. I was planning to start divesting in ' 20, but decided to hold as soon as I saw the CCP building field hospitals & welding apt doors closed in Wuhan. It was insider info only if you had your head up your ass.

You may be right; I don't have the timeline. Like most Americans, I guess I was an ostrich, and really didn't understand that the coronavirus was the pandemic it would become until early- to mid-March. All your cute little rant shows is that there is a question of fact about why she made the purchase then, whether she was in the habit of purchasing life sciences issues, etc.

Actually, there were a very few of us who were expressing concern about the pandemic, certainly as early as Feb 26...but very few. Salty's being straight on this, for him personally. He's definitely more attuned to foreign affairs than nearly anyone else on here, and many of us aren't exactly schlubs. I only had an inkling because my son was there and was warning our family...I didn't go out and buy biotech stocks though... But most people were clueless, and as you say, seacoaster, unless she had a pattern of being long in biotech, or a very savvy active investor generally, and just got 'lucky' with her timing, there is a very real question as to where her "insight" came.

We do know, now, that Senators were getting explicit, scary briefings at the time, whereas the position of the White House was a loud 'not to worry'...even as of Feb 26.

And it's also a very reasonable question as to why Paul didn't report it.
When did he know? Why didn't he report immediately, according to the law?

[Peter Brown]

Petey pumped this stock pretty hard, if I recall.

Feb 26 the stock was about 70, went to 83 on pandemic first wave, then dropped.

Sounds like she, too, like Petey, didn't sell on the high and instead rode it down.

I’m not sure I share with you my personal account trades. Have I? Are you familiar with my every investment decision? It certainly sounds like you are.

You told us about this stock over and over and over again, predicting astronomical highs that never materialized and kept on touting it as it fell...maybe you were BS'ng us (gee that wouldn't be new!) but if I recall correctly you told us you'd bought the stock at a particular price and were crowing about its immediate rise....and then kept telling us about it long after it fell, claiming it would return to ever new heights...just one of a slew of ridiculous predictions, establishing such as a clear signal to bet the other way the surer your claims...

Still locked and loaded. Bought more not that long ago.

https://academic.oup.com/jac/advance-ar ... 56/6345860

But you probably need to back off the internet. Jeebus the exaggerated anti Republican takes. Every second.

[MDlaxfan76]

Petey pumped this stock pretty hard, if I recall.

Feb 26 the stock was about 70, went to 83 on pandemic first wave, then dropped.

Sounds like she, too, like Petey, didn't sell on the high and instead rode it down.

I’m not sure I share with you my personal account trades. Have I? Are you familiar with my every investment decision? It certainly sounds like you are.

You told us about this stock over and over and over again, predicting astronomical highs that never materialized and kept on touting it as it fell...maybe you were BS'ng us (gee that wouldn't be new!) but if I recall correctly you told us you'd bought the stock at a particular price and were crowing about its immediate rise....and then kept telling us about it long after it fell, claiming it would return to ever new heights...just one of a slew of ridiculous predictions, establishing such as a clear signal to bet the other way the surer your claims...

Still locked and loaded. Bought more not that long ago.

https://academic.oup.com/jac/advance-ar ... 56/6345860

But you probably need to back off the internet. Jeebus the exaggerated anti Republican takes. Every second.

ok, so you rode it down and decided to hold (it did move up a little recently, but way off the peak when you were touting it to go to 300)...I guess that means you "didn't lose" money...like her?

[SCLaxAttack]

Petey pumped this stock pretty hard, if I recall.

Feb 26 the stock was about 70, went to 83 on pandemic first wave, then dropped.

Sounds like she, too, like Petey, didn't sell on the high and instead rode it down.

I’m not sure I share with you my personal account trades. Have I? Are you familiar with my every investment decision? It certainly sounds like you are.

You told us about this stock over and over and over again, predicting astronomical highs that never materialized and kept on touting it as it fell...maybe you were BS'ng us (gee that wouldn't be new!) but if I recall correctly you told us you'd bought the stock at a particular price and were crowing about its immediate rise....and then kept telling us about it long after it fell, claiming it would return to ever new heights...just one of a slew of ridiculous predictions, establishing such as a clear signal to bet the other way the surer your claims...

Still locked and loaded. Bought more not that long ago.

https://academic.oup.com/jac/advance-ar ... 56/6345860

But you probably need to back off the internet. Jeebus the exaggerated anti Republican takes. Every second.

ok, so you rode it down and decided to hold (it did move up a little recently, but way off the peak when you were touting it to go to 300)...I guess that means you "didn't lose" money...like her?

Typical troll reaction.

- I never said that. You've got some nerve telling me what I do or say.

Uh, here's what you said and when you said it.

- Oops, better go all in. I bought it then and I bought some more.

Geez, it's getting more and more like you can't believe a word that guy says. (Sarcasm font bold, italicized, and at max size.)

[Farfromgeneva]

Rif; reading is fundamental:

"She also said Paul’s wife, Kelley, an author and former communications consultant, lost money on the investment, which she made with her own earnings. The purchase was of between $1,000 and $15,000 of stock in Gilead, which makes the antiviral drug known as remdesivir."

Boycott Stupid.

I find people who look for motivation behind authors to be really slow and about as cool as an enema while having the worst case of hemorrhoids ever.

[NattyBohChamps04]

I find people who look for motivation behind authors to be really slow and about as cool as an enema while having the worst case of hemorrhoids ever.

Petey: I like to debate the topic rather than the person, BUUUUUUT.....

[Farfromgeneva]

"Sen. Rand Paul revealed Wednesday that his wife bought stock in Gilead Sciences — which makes an antiviral drug used to treat covid-19 — on Feb. 26, 2020, before the threat from the coronavirus was fully understood by the public and before it was classified as a pandemic by the World Health Organization

BS. When I drove my wife to BWI on 1/18/20 to catch her snowbird flight to JAX, I told her I was glad we had a car in St Augustine, because she'd be driving home. We have long been over-invested in biotech, especially ILMN. I was planning to start divesting in ' 20, but decided to hold as soon as I saw the CCP building field hospitals & welding apt doors closed in Wuhan. It was insider info only if you had your head up your ass.

You may be right; I don't have the timeline. Like most Americans, I guess I was an ostrich, and really didn't understand that the coronavirus was the pandemic it would become until early- to mid-March. All your cute little rant shows is that there is a question of fact about why she made the purchase then, whether she was in the habit of purchasing life sciences issues, etc.

Actually, there were a very few of us who were expressing concern about the pandemic, certainly as early as Feb 26...but very few. Salty's being straight on this, for him personally. He's definitely more attuned to foreign affairs than nearly anyone else on here, and many of us aren't exactly schlubs. I only had an inkling because my son was there and was warning our family...I didn't go out and buy biotech stocks though... But most people were clueless, and as you say, seacoaster, unless she had a pattern of being long in biotech, or a very savvy active investor generally, and just got 'lucky' with her timing, there is a very real question as to where her "insight" came.

We do know, now, that Senators were getting explicit, scary briefings at the time, whereas the position of the White House was a loud 'not to worry'...even as of Feb 26.

And it's also a very reasonable question as to why Paul didn't report it.
When did he know? Why didn't he report immediately, according to the law?

They had some NY state hospitals on lockdown by then bc my mother went in a few weeks prior for her broken shoulder and by early March I was up when they found the dark spots on the MRI and wasn’t allowed into the hospital first week of March.

[MDlaxfan76]

"Sen. Rand Paul revealed Wednesday that his wife bought stock in Gilead Sciences — which makes an antiviral drug used to treat covid-19 — on Feb. 26, 2020, before the threat from the coronavirus was fully understood by the public and before it was classified as a pandemic by the World Health Organization

BS. When I drove my wife to BWI on 1/18/20 to catch her snowbird flight to JAX, I told her I was glad we had a car in St Augustine, because she'd be driving home. We have long been over-invested in biotech, especially ILMN. I was planning to start divesting in ' 20, but decided to hold as soon as I saw the CCP building field hospitals & welding apt doors closed in Wuhan. It was insider info only if you had your head up your ass.

You may be right; I don't have the timeline. Like most Americans, I guess I was an ostrich, and really didn't understand that the coronavirus was the pandemic it would become until early- to mid-March. All your cute little rant shows is that there is a question of fact about why she made the purchase then, whether she was in the habit of purchasing life sciences issues, etc.

Actually, there were a very few of us who were expressing concern about the pandemic, certainly as early as Feb 26...but very few. Salty's being straight on this, for him personally. He's definitely more attuned to foreign affairs than nearly anyone else on here, and many of us aren't exactly schlubs. I only had an inkling because my son was there and was warning our family...I didn't go out and buy biotech stocks though... But most people were clueless, and as you say, seacoaster, unless she had a pattern of being long in biotech, or a very savvy active investor generally, and just got 'lucky' with her timing, there is a very real question as to where her "insight" came.

We do know, now, that Senators were getting explicit, scary briefings at the time, whereas the position of the White House was a loud 'not to worry'...even as of Feb 26.

And it's also a very reasonable question as to why Paul didn't report it.
When did he know? Why didn't he report immediately, according to the law?

They had some NY state hospitals on lockdown by then bc my mother went in a few weeks prior for her broken shoulder and by early March I was up when they found the dark spots on the MRI and wasn’t allowed into the hospital first week of March.

Things changed quite a bit in a just a week and thereon.

[Farfromgeneva]

"Sen. Rand Paul revealed Wednesday that his wife bought stock in Gilead Sciences — which makes an antiviral drug used to treat covid-19 — on Feb. 26, 2020, before the threat from the coronavirus was fully understood by the public and before it was classified as a pandemic by the World Health Organization

BS. When I drove my wife to BWI on 1/18/20 to catch her snowbird flight to JAX, I told her I was glad we had a car in St Augustine, because she'd be driving home. We have long been over-invested in biotech, especially ILMN. I was planning to start divesting in ' 20, but decided to hold as soon as I saw the CCP building field hospitals & welding apt doors closed in Wuhan. It was insider info only if you had your head up your ass.

You may be right; I don't have the timeline. Like most Americans, I guess I was an ostrich, and really didn't understand that the coronavirus was the pandemic it would become until early- to mid-March. All your cute little rant shows is that there is a question of fact about why she made the purchase then, whether she was in the habit of purchasing life sciences issues, etc.

Actually, there were a very few of us who were expressing concern about the pandemic, certainly as early as Feb 26...but very few. Salty's being straight on this, for him personally. He's definitely more attuned to foreign affairs than nearly anyone else on here, and many of us aren't exactly schlubs. I only had an inkling because my son was there and was warning our family...I didn't go out and buy biotech stocks though... But most people were clueless, and as you say, seacoaster, unless she had a pattern of being long in biotech, or a very savvy active investor generally, and just got 'lucky' with her timing, there is a very real question as to where her "insight" came.

We do know, now, that Senators were getting explicit, scary briefings at the time, whereas the position of the White House was a loud 'not to worry'...even as of Feb 26.

And it's also a very reasonable question as to why Paul didn't report it.
When did he know? Why didn't he report immediately, according to the law?

They had some NY state hospitals on lockdown by then bc my mother went in a few weeks prior for her broken shoulder and by early March I was up when they found the dark spots on the MRI and wasn’t allowed into the hospital first week of March.

Things changed quite a bit in a just a week and thereon.

The entire spring and early summer is kind of hard for me to process as I was driving back and forth from Atlanta to Binghamton every few weeks into June. By the time I could come up for air from all that BS we were into summer and it was all mixed up with politics by then and a lot of social unrest picked up as well so I wasn’t really sitting around my home or office paying attention to it all as much and far more micro focused.

[MDlaxfan76]

"Sen. Rand Paul revealed Wednesday that his wife bought stock in Gilead Sciences — which makes an antiviral drug used to treat covid-19 — on Feb. 26, 2020, before the threat from the coronavirus was fully understood by the public and before it was classified as a pandemic by the World Health Organization

BS. When I drove my wife to BWI on 1/18/20 to catch her snowbird flight to JAX, I told her I was glad we had a car in St Augustine, because she'd be driving home. We have long been over-invested in biotech, especially ILMN. I was planning to start divesting in ' 20, but decided to hold as soon as I saw the CCP building field hospitals & welding apt doors closed in Wuhan. It was insider info only if you had your head up your ass.

You may be right; I don't have the timeline. Like most Americans, I guess I was an ostrich, and really didn't understand that the coronavirus was the pandemic it would become until early- to mid-March. All your cute little rant shows is that there is a question of fact about why she made the purchase then, whether she was in the habit of purchasing life sciences issues, etc.

Actually, there were a very few of us who were expressing concern about the pandemic, certainly as early as Feb 26...but very few. Salty's being straight on this, for him personally. He's definitely more attuned to foreign affairs than nearly anyone else on here, and many of us aren't exactly schlubs. I only had an inkling because my son was there and was warning our family...I didn't go out and buy biotech stocks though... But most people were clueless, and as you say, seacoaster, unless she had a pattern of being long in biotech, or a very savvy active investor generally, and just got 'lucky' with her timing, there is a very real question as to where her "insight" came.

We do know, now, that Senators were getting explicit, scary briefings at the time, whereas the position of the White House was a loud 'not to worry'...even as of Feb 26.

And it's also a very reasonable question as to why Paul didn't report it.
When did he know? Why didn't he report immediately, according to the law?

They had some NY state hospitals on lockdown by then bc my mother went in a few weeks prior for her broken shoulder and by early March I was up when they found the dark spots on the MRI and wasn’t allowed into the hospital first week of March.

Things changed quite a bit in a just a week and thereon.

The entire spring and early summer is kind of hard for me to process as I was driving back and forth from Atlanta to Binghamton every few weeks into June. By the time I could come up for air from all that BS we were into summer and it was all mixed up with politics by then and a lot of social unrest picked up as well so I wasn’t really sitting around my home or office paying attention to it all as much and far more micro focused.

Very, very understandable.

[dislaxxic]

Cancel THIS female dog, too!

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[Farfromgeneva]

I find people who look for motivation behind authors to be really slow and about as cool as an enema while having the worst case of hemorrhoids ever.

Petey: I like to debate the topic rather than the person, BUUUUUUT.....

I’m not Petey? Closer to an albino Irishman from upstate NY who thought I was middle class until I saw the larger world. The other is a silver spoon person who hasn’t played sports and has things taken care of their entire life and lives in an income tax free state and bloviates while obscuring honest dialogue.

[NattyBohChamps04]

I find people who look for motivation behind authors to be really slow and about as cool as an enema while having the worst case of hemorrhoids ever.

Petey: I like to debate the topic rather than the person, BUUUUUUT.....

I’m not Petey? Closer to an albino Irishman from upstate NY who thought I was middle class until I saw the larger world. The other is a silver spoon person who hasn’t played sports and has things taken care of their entire life and lives in an income tax free state and bloviates while obscuring honest dialogue.

Understood, I was simply commenting on Mr. Brown's propensity to state that he would rather debate the topic instead of the person, then in the same breath go on a rant about the messenger / author.

[Peter Brown]

I find people who look for motivation behind authors to be really slow and about as cool as an enema while having the worst case of hemorrhoids ever.

Petey: I like to debate the topic rather than the person, BUUUUUUT.....

I’m not Petey? Closer to an albino Irishman from upstate NY who thought I was middle class until I saw the larger world. The other is a silver spoon person who hasn’t played sports and has things taken care of their entire life and lives in an income tax free state and bloviates while obscuring honest dialogue.

Understood, I was simply commenting on Mr. Brown's propensity to state that he would rather debate the topic instead of the person, then in the same breath go on a rant about the messenger / author.

Not that I expect the left chattering seal clappers to know better, but there’s like eight universes difference between a certifiably dishonest story told by a certifiably demented hack like Millhiser, and the original post, which was an honest question posed by someone here about a legitimate topic.

[RedFromMI]

And we have only your word about any ‘certifiable’ qualities in Millhiser’s tale.

No real evidence of course. Has DeSantis made a public denial?

The argument PB is asking does not pass muster…

[seacoaster]

Do these sorts of GOP crazies not understand that they are damaging democracy? If so, why do they not care?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -machines/

"A bizarre security breach of a rural Colorado county’s voting system has in a matter of days escalated into a criminal probe of the clerk’s office, a ban on the county’s existing election equipment, and heightened partisan divides over election-fraud claims.

Footage that showed passwords related to the county’s voting systems was surreptitiously recorded during a May security update and published last week on a far-right blog, Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold (D) said Thursday. Griswold determined Mesa County cannot use its existing equipment for its November election.

Griswold alleged Mesa County Clerk Tina M. Peters (R) allowed the breach. A spokesperson for Mesa County confirmed a criminal probe headed by the 21st Judicial District Attorney’s Office was underway but said it was still in the early stages.

During a Thursday news conference, Griswold said Peters falsely passed off a man as a county employee and misled her office about his background check status. Days before the breach, she said Peters directed her staff to turn off the video surveillance of the voting machines, which she said has remained off until just recently.

“To be very clear; Mesa County Clerk and Recorder allowed a security breach and — by all evidence at this point — assisted it,” Griswold told reporters Thursday.

Peters did not respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment Thursday but released a statement earlier this week saying her constituents had voiced concerns about election integrity: “I have told them I will do everything in my power to protect their vote.”

Peters has spent the past several days in South Dakota at the “Cyber Symposium” held by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, one of the most ardent allegers of election fraud. (Lindell is being sued for defamation by Dominion Voting Systems, the company that manufactures Mesa County’s equipment.) In a keynote speech at the event Tuesday, Peters said Griswold’s investigation of her office was politically motivated.

“We would be a big jewel in our governor and our secretary of state’s crown to take over my office and control the way you vote,” Peters said, according to a recording of her speech.

The situation in Mesa County is the latest instance of how debunked claims of fraud in the 2020 election continue to ripple through the country, down to the level of local politics.

Griswold on Thursday said her office’s investigation — separate from the criminal probe recently announced by Mesa County District Attorney David Rubinstein — was about integrity, not politics.

“I think it is extremely concerning that an elected official from the state of Colorado is actively working to undermine confidence and spread misinformation about our award-wining voting system,” Griswold said.

The security breach did not affect any past elections nor will it impact future ones, on account of the roughly 40 pieces of voting equipment being decertified, Griswold said. Mesa County will be responsible for the cost of completely replacing its election equipment by the end of the month or rely on hand-counted ballots.

Colorado is widely credited as having the gold-standard for election security after implementing virtually all of the recommended protocols following Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Larry Norden, who directs the Election Reform Program at the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law, said Colorado invests in risk-limiting audits, multifactor authentication and testing before and after elections to ensure accuracy.

“If there was a [security breach] they would catch it — but you don’t want to be in that situation if you don’t have to be,” Norden told The Post. “You prefer the systems work right the first time.”

Griswold said the leaked passwords can only be used on a physical piece of equipment in the Mesa County Clerk’s Office; various authentications and safeguards make it unlikely a random person with the passwords could have meddled with the machines.

“Nobody has the keys to the castle,” she said. She conceded that it was not implausible a “bad actor” who somehow had access to both the passwords and the physical machines could compromise the security of the equipment.

Dominion’s lawsuits against Trump allies can move forward after judge rejects arguments

After Griswold’s office learned of the breach, her investigators found an unauthorized person had been allowed into the May meeting where the secure software update was taking place. By county rules, the seven attendees are restricted to state civil servants, county employees and representatives from Dominion Voting Systems, the equipment and software manufacturer.

Peters had previously pushed for the update, known as a trusted build, to be public, which Griswold rebuffed. Griswold said the man’s presence was a violation of the rules, which Peters helped him evade.

Matt Crane, a Republican who heads the County Clerks Association and formerly served as Arapahoe County Clerk, blasted the situation in Mesa County as a “solo, intentional and selfish act.”

“We’ve heard people say that this is heroic. To be clear. There is nothing heroic or honorable about what happened in Mesa County,” Crane said while standing alongside Griswold on Thursday.

Still, he called any calls for Peters’s resignation premature: “Ultimately, it’s up to the people of Mesa County.”

Peters, who was elected in 2018, survived a 2020 recall effort. She is up for reelection in 2022."