All things CoronaVirus

[Brooklyn]

Curious that those two states are the exact two best economies in America.

Ahhhhh, whadda they know! Let’s live in poverty and crime! Yay Venezuela.

Yeah I'm sure those folks in Texass greatly appreciate the bail out they got from Democrat Obama.

[Brooklyn]

Texass governor pleads for out of staters to bail out his state again:


Greg Abbott begs out-of-state healthcare workers to please, just please, come mess with Texas


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8 ... with-Texas


There is a strange phenomenon underway, one that will surely generate a lot of inside-out headlines on Politico and be marked on Fox News by its absence. That phenomenon? States like Texas and Florida, where Republican governors have gone out of their way to prevent schools and local governments from requiring vaccines, masks, or tests, have—in a way that absolutely no one could have predicted—become hotbeds of infection.

Right now, most maps of the nation show Florida as the kind of unnaturally colored, heavily-infected appendage that can only be dealt with by amputation. Texas is more mottled, with only most of its many counties glowing at the blood-red maximum of community transmission. Even so, the hospitals in several areas are seeing a surge of new patients. So much so that, on Monday, Gov. Greg Abbott announced that was finally compelled to “take action to mitigate” increasing COVID-19 cases in Texas.

Is Abbott reducing the risk by allowing schools or local governments to institute mask mandates? No. Is he going to require vaccination before people can engage in the kind of activities most likely to spread the diseases? Not at all.

What Abbott is going to do is “utilize staffing agencies” to “provide medical personnel from out-of-state.” In other words, Abbott is going to toss a few “Please come to a state where we won’t let anyone tell you to put on a mask or get a shot” ads onto ZipRecruiter and Indeed. Abbott is also asking hospitals to hold off doing elective surgery while dealing with beds full of dying people, an action hospitals had already taken on their own. There. Crisis averted.

And with that done, Abbott has other things to do. Like go to court. Because as The Washington Post reports, Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins is seeking a restraining order on the grounds that Abbott’s anti-mandate mandate oversteps the authority of the governor’s office. And Jenkins is not the only one suing Abbott over his pro-virus stance.

For an example of just how different what Republicans are saying about vaccinations and COVID-19 when it comes to other people, and how they’re acting when it comes to putting their own necks on the line, it’s hard to do better than this.


Whether or not Abbott will be able to lure people down to a state where he’s promising that attempts to halt the virus will be fought using the full power of the governor’s office is an open question. What’s certain is that those workers are badly needed. The Harris Health System, which includes Houston, is reviving the worst memories from the worst days of the pandemic by erecting tents to deal with an overflow of patients. The area around Austin has just six open ICU beds for 2.4 million residents.

As ABC News reports, the hospitals in Houston are “like a war zone,” with one of the doctors there reporting on the horrific conditions inside area icus. "If people could see that, if laws allowed us to take cameras and plant them in the ICU. For you to see what I get to see, I'm certain more than 98% of people would say, 'I don't want that to happen to me. I'm going to do something simple like take a vaccine.'"

School districts in both Texas and Florida have already given their anti-masking governors a middle finger of defiance. And it must come as a shock to both men that some people will continue doing the right thing in the face of threats — even financial threats.

In addition to Judge Jenkins, Abbott is being sued by a child advocacy group who notes in their suit that: “One third of all new COVID-19 cases are in the states of Texas and Florida” and “Children are among the most vulnerable to the Delta variant of COVID-19.” They then note that not only are children the victims of Abbott’s actions, but Texas taxpayers will foot the bill for any school districts prosecuted for attempting to protect children. They’ll also be paying for the school closures sure to occur in districts that knuckle under to Abbott’s no-masks rule.

Over 50,000 Texans died from COVID-19 before the delta variant arrived. Hundreds more died over the winter when a purposely fragile power grid left them struggling in the cold and dark. Now Texas’ hospitals are overrun again, the children of Texas are under a dire threat, and Abbott is only biting down harder on his red pill, sticking hard to a position that’s generating things like this report from ABC News.

In a sign that the delta variant is affecting more children on a daily basis, an 11-month-old girl from the Houston area had to be airlifted to Temple because no pediatric hospitals in Houston would accept her as a transfer patient.

An infant in the throes of seizures had to be taken 150 miles away because every available slot in her area was already filled with desperately ill children. Rather than trying to protect those kids, Abbott is focused on protecting orders that endanger those kids.

Texas … is a red-hot mess. Emphasis on red. The question is how much longer the people there are going to keep accepting the idea that sacrificing their children to Greg Abbott’s presidential ambitions is a good idea.





No question that Abbott is a baby killer. Small wonder why right wingers defend him.

[jhu72]

This guy Andrew Sullivan, gay writer living in Provincetown MA, makes more sense in one day than the entire liberal establishment can in twelve lifetimes. His words will especially infuriate the know-it-all’s…know any?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... COVID.html

He’s absolutely correct on every angle. The government is not here to hold your hand you crybabies. And if you think the government will hold your hand when you need it most, grow the eff up.

“Government isn't there to hold your hand': Columnist Andrew Sullivan tells CNN that US is wrong to pursue 'illusory victory' over COVID and says kids are 18 times more likely to DROWN than die from virus”.

“He also argued: 'The most potent incentive for vaccination is to be brutally frank, a sharp rise in mortality rates. The more people know someone who has suffered and died, the more they are likely to take measures...In other words, call their bluff...Let it rip.'”

He’s correct.

Video: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/202 ... tv-vpx.cnn

... have seen his book. I follow Sullivan, like him a lot. He is a true conservative -- unlike you, unlike the Trumpnista.

[Brooklyn]

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:34 am
This guy Andrew Sullivan, gay writer living in Provincetown MA, makes more sense in one day than the entire liberal establishment can in twelve lifetimes. His words will especially infuriate the know-it-all’s…know any?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... COVID.html

He’s absolutely correct on every angle. The government is not here to hold your hand you crybabies. And if you think the government will hold your hand when you need it most, grow the eff up.

“Government isn't there to hold your hand'

Sullivan and Petey are like minded on this (and I'm sure on other) issue(s). Let's see them make a case as to why the military industrial complex and all the corporations in the USA shouldn't be beneficiaries of corporate welfare.

[tech37]

You tell ‘em Rand!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/ran ... index.html

You tell em Michael!

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... gr%5Etweet

[seacoaster]

Reap what the GOP sowed:

https://mobile.twitter.com/natalie_alli ... 8202548224

[jhu72]

It started as a virus but mutated into an IQ test

Small wonder why it has become such a problem in Florida and Texass.

Curious that those two states are the exact two best economies in America.

Ahhhhh, whadda they know! Let’s live in poverty and crime! Yay Venezuela.

... more bullsh*t. There is no ranking based on growth, or mix of parameters that have these two states both in the top 10, let alone #1 and #2. Best case I have seen is Texas #8 with Florida just outside the top 10 (Forbes). Most I have seen both out of the top 20 (based on a number of factors). WSJ, Forbes, USN, USA Today. I suspect your are quoting the Goebbels ranking.

[tech37]

Reap what the GOP sowed:

https://mobile.twitter.com/natalie_alli ... 8202548224

Yep, BOTH sides are off the hook...some of us can admit that.

[wgdsr]

You tell ‘em Rand!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/ran ... index.html

You tell em Michael!

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... gr%5Etweet

really too rich.
but masks.
what a national conversation we've been having.

[Typical Lax Dad]

You tell ‘em Rand!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/ran ... index.html

You tell em Michael!

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... gr%5Etweet

really too rich.
but masks.
what a national conversation we've been having.

“He made it clear to us he was not anti-mask.

“I'm not only not anti-mask, I'm saying wear it. I wear one. I owe it to the public to tell them what I know and don't know. This is where it has been very hard because in public health nothing is necessarily yes or no. It's not right or left,” said Osterholm.”

You can leave yours at home. I am doing any and everything I can to not be part of the problem….even if unknowingly. It’s about the kids.

[Typical Lax Dad]

You tell ‘em Rand!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/ran ... index.html

You tell em Michael!

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... gr%5Etweet

What does Roots Man say about wearing a mask? He’s not part of the establishment and thinks outside the box.

[tech37]

You tell ‘em Rand!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/ran ... index.html

You tell em Michael!

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... gr%5Etweet

really too rich.
but masks.
what a national conversation we've been having.

“He made it clear to us he was not anti-mask.

“I'm not only not anti-mask, I'm saying wear it. I wear one. I owe it to the public to tell them what I know and don't know. This is where it has been very hard because in public health nothing is necessarily yes or no. It's not right or left,” said Osterholm.”

I guess those qualifying lines kept him from being canceled by Big Tech.

[seacoaster]

Reap what the GOP sowed:

https://mobile.twitter.com/natalie_alli ... 8202548224

Yep, BOTH sides are off the hook...some of us can admit that.

No idea what you mean.

[Typical Lax Dad]

You tell ‘em Rand!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/ran ... index.html

You tell em Michael!

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... gr%5Etweet

really too rich.
but masks.
what a national conversation we've been having.

“He made it clear to us he was not anti-mask.

“I'm not only not anti-mask, I'm saying wear it. I wear one. I owe it to the public to tell them what I know and don't know. This is where it has been very hard because in public health nothing is necessarily yes or no. It's not right or left,” said Osterholm.”

I guess those qualifying lines kept him from being canceled by Big Tech.

I wonder why these guys are wearing the “good masks” while they have the cure? I had a couple of guys from Madagascar in my grad dorm. Good dudes.

[wgdsr]

You tell ‘em Rand!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/ran ... index.html

You tell em Michael!

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... gr%5Etweet

really too rich.
but masks.
what a national conversation we've been having.

“He made it clear to us he was not anti-mask.

“I'm not only not anti-mask, I'm saying wear it. I wear one. I owe it to the public to tell them what I know and don't know. This is where it has been very hard because in public health nothing is necessarily yes or no. It's not right or left,” said Osterholm.”

You can leave yours at home. I am doing any and everything I can to not be part of the problem….even if unknowingly. It’s about the kids.

osterholm's been mostly very good.
he is one voice in a sea of them. and this is not only kinda but exactly what i've been saying for a year.
now we're 7 months in to "squash the virus". mine have not come in the mail. what's the ramp up time?

cdc? was recommending public don't buy so conserved for healthcare early on in '21. have they flipped on that yet? have those suppliers i linked several weeks ago stayed in business as they can't get orders filled?

but we have infrastructure making its way thru. and "masks" if you care about others. i don't see a lot of tld's running around.

[Typical Lax Dad]

You tell ‘em Rand!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/ran ... index.html

You tell em Michael!

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... gr%5Etweet

really too rich.
but masks.
what a national conversation we've been having.

“He made it clear to us he was not anti-mask.

“I'm not only not anti-mask, I'm saying wear it. I wear one. I owe it to the public to tell them what I know and don't know. This is where it has been very hard because in public health nothing is necessarily yes or no. It's not right or left,” said Osterholm.”

You can leave yours at home. I am doing any and everything I can to not be part of the problem….even if unknowingly. It’s about the kids.

osterholm's been mostly very good.
he is one voice in a sea of them. and this is not only kinda but exactly what i've been saying for a year.
now we're 7 months in to "squash the virus". mine have not come in the mail. what's the ramp up time?

cdc? was recommending public don't buy so conserved for healthcare early on in '21. have they flipped on that yet? have those suppliers i linked several weeks ago stayed in business as they can't get orders filled?

but we have infrastructure making its way thru. and "masks" if you care about others. i don't see a lot of tld's running around.

I was raised right. Can’t speak for others. If you can’t stay away from other people, wearing a mask is the least a person could do. Get the best mask possible. It doesn’t take much effort. How many cases did we have in this country last March. Wear a good mask properly and you have a chance to reduce the risks. That’s good enough for me. I want kids back in school. I am willing to make a relatively small sacrifice. My life is fairly simple anyway.

You forgot we shipped a lot of PPE gear out under the old regime….had a chance to say “hold up, we may need those for Americans….not the folks in Madagascar”.

[wgdsr]

You tell ‘em Rand!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/ran ... index.html

You tell em Michael!

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... gr%5Etweet

really too rich.
but masks.
what a national conversation we've been having.

“He made it clear to us he was not anti-mask.

“I'm not only not anti-mask, I'm saying wear it. I wear one. I owe it to the public to tell them what I know and don't know. This is where it has been very hard because in public health nothing is necessarily yes or no. It's not right or left,” said Osterholm.”

You can leave yours at home. I am doing any and everything I can to not be part of the problem….even if unknowingly. It’s about the kids.

osterholm's been mostly very good.
he is one voice in a sea of them. and this is not only kinda but exactly what i've been saying for a year.
now we're 7 months in to "squash the virus". mine have not come in the mail. what's the ramp up time?

cdc? was recommending public don't buy so conserved for healthcare early on in '21. have they flipped on that yet? have those suppliers i linked several weeks ago stayed in business as they can't get orders filled?

but we have infrastructure making its way thru. and "masks" if you care about others. i don't see a lot of tld's running around.

I was raised right. Can’t speak for others. If you can’t stay away from other people, wearing a mask is the least a person could do. Get the best mask possible. It doesn’t take much effort. How many cases did we have in this country last March. Wear a good mask properly and you have a chance to reduce the risks. That’s good enough for me. I want kids back in school. I am willing to make a relatively small sacrifice. My life is fairly simple anyway.

You forgot we shipped a lot of PPE gear out under the old regime….had a chance to say “hold up, we may need those for Americans….not the folks in Madagascar”.

why are we talking about a year and a half ago? i'm talking about today. this year. what we can do. how many billions of masks would we need? what does shipping 10s or 100s of millions of masks out 1 1/2 years ago have to do with the price of eggs? and we've learned a lot since then, it had to be studied.

where is the national rhetoric and screaming on it, "masks" or "95 masks and here they come"? the last question is rhetorical.

[Typical Lax Dad]

You tell ‘em Rand!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/ran ... index.html

You tell em Michael!

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... gr%5Etweet

really too rich.
but masks.
what a national conversation we've been having.

“He made it clear to us he was not anti-mask.

“I'm not only not anti-mask, I'm saying wear it. I wear one. I owe it to the public to tell them what I know and don't know. This is where it has been very hard because in public health nothing is necessarily yes or no. It's not right or left,” said Osterholm.”

You can leave yours at home. I am doing any and everything I can to not be part of the problem….even if unknowingly. It’s about the kids.

osterholm's been mostly very good.
he is one voice in a sea of them. and this is not only kinda but exactly what i've been saying for a year.
now we're 7 months in to "squash the virus". mine have not come in the mail. what's the ramp up time?

cdc? was recommending public don't buy so conserved for healthcare early on in '21. have they flipped on that yet? have those suppliers i linked several weeks ago stayed in business as they can't get orders filled?

but we have infrastructure making its way thru. and "masks" if you care about others. i don't see a lot of tld's running around.

I was raised right. Can’t speak for others. If you can’t stay away from other people, wearing a mask is the least a person could do. Get the best mask possible. It doesn’t take much effort. How many cases did we have in this country last March. Wear a good mask properly and you have a chance to reduce the risks. That’s good enough for me. I want kids back in school. I am willing to make a relatively small sacrifice. My life is fairly simple anyway.

You forgot we shipped a lot of PPE gear out under the old regime….had a chance to say “hold up, we may need those for Americans….not the folks in Madagascar”.

why are we talking about a year and a half ago? i'm talking about today. this year. what we can do. how many billions of masks would we need? what does shipping 10s or 100s of millions of masks out 1 1/2 years ago have to do with the price of eggs? and we've learned a lot since then, it had to be studied.

where is the national rhetoric and screaming on it, "masks" or "95 masks and here they come"? the last question is rhetorical.

I thought there was a reference to Fauci saying we don’t need masks. I don’t know what the distribution logistics are today. I am going to go back to Home Depot today and buy two more boxes for the hell of it. Can send some to friends and family like I have done in the past. Anything that I can do to not be part of the problem, I am doing it.

[Peter Brown]

You tell ‘em Rand!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/ran ... index.html

You tell em Michael!

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... gr%5Etweet

really too rich.
but masks.
what a national conversation we've been having.

“He made it clear to us he was not anti-mask.

“I'm not only not anti-mask, I'm saying wear it. I wear one. I owe it to the public to tell them what I know and don't know. This is where it has been very hard because in public health nothing is necessarily yes or no. It's not right or left,” said Osterholm.”

You can leave yours at home. I am doing any and everything I can to not be part of the problem….even if unknowingly. It’s about the kids.

osterholm's been mostly very good.
he is one voice in a sea of them. and this is not only kinda but exactly what i've been saying for a year.
now we're 7 months in to "squash the virus". mine have not come in the mail. what's the ramp up time?

cdc? was recommending public don't buy so conserved for healthcare early on in '21. have they flipped on that yet? have those suppliers i linked several weeks ago stayed in business as they can't get orders filled?

but we have infrastructure making its way thru. and "masks" if you care about others. i don't see a lot of tld's running around.

I was raised right. Can’t speak for others. If you can’t stay away from other people, wearing a mask is the least a person could do. Get the best mask possible. It doesn’t take much effort. How many cases did we have in this country last March. Wear a good mask properly and you have a chance to reduce the risks. That’s good enough for me. I want kids back in school. I am willing to make a relatively small sacrifice. My life is fairly simple anyway.

You forgot we shipped a lot of PPE gear out under the old regime….had a chance to say “hold up, we may need those for Americans….not the folks in Madagascar”.

why are we talking about a year and a half ago? i'm talking about today. this year. what we can do. how many billions of masks would we need? what does shipping 10s or 100s of millions of masks out 1 1/2 years ago have to do with the price of eggs? and we've learned a lot since then, it had to be studied.

where is the national rhetoric and screaming on it, "masks" or "95 masks and here they come"? the last question is rhetorical.

I thought there was a reference to Fauci saying we don’t need masks. I don’t know what the distribution logistics are today. I am going to go back to Home Depot today and buy two more boxes for the hell of it. Can send some to friends and family like I have done in the past. Anything that I can do to not be part of the problem, I am doing it.

Supply hoarding isn’t a problem?

[Typical Lax Dad]