January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?

[Peter Brown]

get back to us on extradition from UAE, Dubai, Saudi Arabia etc...

...who are close US allies, with US weapons sales & bases critical to their defense, who would be unlikely to withstand the pressure to return an accused to the US for trail, especially for trail on political, weak charges for a white collar crime. They'd advise Barrack to flee elsewhere.

I was going to point out the obvious here, but I got bored. Appreciate you taking one for the team.

[Peter Brown]

Secretly manipulating government policy on their behalf. The DOJ has him dead to rights on this

That is what lobbyists for foreign govts do. It is "secret" (how sinister) only because it is not registered.

...then there is influence peddling, as practiced by the unregistered Biden klan, which is apparently okie dokie.

Indeed. I see MD has already replied that ‘in no way have the Biden’s ever abused their positions of political influence’, so I guess I’ll just congratulate you OS again on pointing out some very sensible observations, which naturally some here can’t bother to reflect upon.

In any event, good post.

[Peter Brown]

get back to us on extradition from UAE, Dubai, Saudi Arabia etc...

...who are close US allies, with US weapons sales & bases critical to their defense, who would be unlikely to withstand the pressure to return an accused to the US for trail, especially for trail on political, weak charges for a white collar crime. They'd advise Barrack to flee elsewhere.

No extradition treaty (some "close allies" ...I forget, you think our actual allies are not...).

He was an agent for UAE. Secretly manipulating government policy on their behalf. The DOJ has him dead to rights on this...but how much more is there to squeeze from him?

You think these countries want the US to know what they did in payoffs, whether through the Inauguration, or other?

Highly motivated to cover it up.

There is a reasonable suspicion that the monetary dealings with the inauguration are very fishy. I would not be surprised if there are not future charges regarding those issues.

...so let's dummy up some FARA charges, so we can entrap him or squeeze him on something else. Hey, it worked on Popadop.

Agreed. As everyone else should too.

[Farfromgeneva]

get back to us on extradition from UAE, Dubai, Saudi Arabia etc...

...who are close US allies, with US weapons sales & bases critical to their defense, who would be unlikely to withstand the pressure to return an accused to the US for trail, especially for trail on political, weak charges for a white collar crime. They'd advise Barrack to flee elsewhere.

No extradition treaty (some "close allies" ...I forget, you think our actual allies are not...).

He was an agent for UAE. Secretly manipulating government policy on their behalf. The DOJ has him dead to rights on this...but how much more is there to squeeze from him?

You think these countries want the US to know what they did in payoffs, whether through the Inauguration, or other?

Highly motivated to cover it up.

There is a reasonable suspicion that the monetary dealings with the inauguration are very fishy. I would not be surprised if there are not future charges regarding those issues.

...so let's dummy up some FARA charges, so we can entrap him or squeeze him on something else. Hey, it worked on Popadop.

Read the Indictment, Salty, it is highly detailed with evidence.

But yeah, do expect more to come.

Seriously, do you really want to be aligned with these guys?
You'd have done serious time if you'd been caught doing half of this.

This is absolutely NOT Barracks shadiest activities in his professional life. Highly successful but I’m not surprised that people who have no idea about this guy are so quick to defend him. While professionally an asset manager mainly around real estate and related like casinos but twice as dirty as someone like Jack Abramhoff who I know a kid who worked for in the 2000s when I lived in DC (MIke Clarke he does equity research for FBR or somebody like that now in the DMV area after grad school at GE but was literally booking functions for Abramhoff when he was balls deep in corruption before getting jammed up).

[MDlaxfan76]

Well, sure, the guys who straight up say they're advocating on behalf of a foreign government and everyone knows they have a self-interest in the outcome...versus an actual traitor who pretends he's looking out for the US but is in reality getting paid to work for another country, who needs that secrecy in order to be successful in fooling others...

Do you consider Flynn a traitor for his work on behalf of Turkey ? Judge Sullivan apologized for doing so. Like Turkey -- Qatar, UAE & Saudi Arabia are critical allies in the mideast who host strategic US bases. The Trump admin successfully negotiated the end of the blockade of Qatar by the UAE & Saudi Arabia.

No, not necessarily a "traitor" for that, though dishonest yes ...had he continued to do so secretively once Trump was POTUS and Flynn DNI, yes, traitor. However, he's a traitor for other reasons, IMO.

But yes, Barrack is a traitor, sellout his country. Dishonest, greedy bastard too.

What else would you like me to call him?

[MDlaxfan76]

Secretly manipulating government policy on their behalf. The DOJ has him dead to rights on this

That is what lobbyists for foreign govts do. It is "secret" (how sinister) only because it is not registered.

...then there is influence peddling, as practiced by the unregistered Biden klan, which is apparently okie dokie.

Indeed. I see MD has already replied that ‘in no way have the Biden’s ever abused their positions of political influence’, so I guess I’ll just congratulate you OS again on pointing out some very sensible observations, which naturally some here can’t bother to reflect upon.

In any event, good post.

Petey, how about when you put quotes suggesting the words are actually mine, you do so accurately?
It's not really that hard.
And it's dishonest to misquote on purpose.

Indeed, I said quite the contrary.
I said that if the DOJ finds evidence of a crime by any of the Bidens, they should be prosecuted. I haven't seen it, but that doesn't mean that if there was, they wouldn't deserve to be prosecuted...maybe you're like Mike Lindell and have "secret evidence"?

BTW, Salty, how do you like Petey considering you part of "the team"???

Salty and I were discussing the fundamental difference between lobbying, which is open advocacy for known clients with interests before the US government, and those who secretly, dishonestly work for a foreign government with interests which may otherwise conflict with the policies of the USA.

One is honest and legal, the other is dishonest and illegal. And should be.
Substantive difference, not simply a matter of paperwork.

[Peter Brown]

Secretly manipulating government policy on their behalf. The DOJ has him dead to rights on this

That is what lobbyists for foreign govts do. It is "secret" (how sinister) only because it is not registered.

...then there is influence peddling, as practiced by the unregistered Biden klan, which is apparently okie dokie.

Indeed. I see MD has already replied that ‘in no way have the Biden’s ever abused their positions of political influence’, so I guess I’ll just congratulate you OS again on pointing out some very sensible observations, which naturally some here can’t bother to reflect upon.

In any event, good post.

Petey, how about when you put quotes suggesting the words are actually mine, you do so accurately?
It's not really that hard.
And it's dishonest to misquote on purpose.

Indeed, I said quite the contrary.
I said that if the DOJ finds evidence of a crime by any of the Bidens, they should be prosecuted. I haven't seen it, but that doesn't mean that if there was, they wouldn't deserve to be prosecuted...maybe you're like Mike Lindell and have "secret evidence"?

BTW, Salty, how do you like Petey considering you part of "the team"???

Salty and I were discussing the fundamental difference between lobbying, which is open advocacy for known clients with interests before the US government, and those who secretly, dishonestly work for a foreign government with interests which may otherwise conflict with the policies of the USA.

One is honest and legal, the other is dishonest and illegal. And should be.
Substantive difference, not simply a matter of paperwork.

Why do you need the DOJ to validate your own judgment as to what’s in front of your eyes? I think we can all see the issues regarding Hunter. I’d be absolutely floored if the DOJ went after him. You might not have noticed, but the DOJ seems a tad biased. In 2016, DOJ political giving went 97% to Democrats. If that doesn’t tell you what’s too obvious, I can’t help you.

OS writes posts with common sense (others here, decidedly less so ). That’s the only team reference.

[MDlaxfan76]

Yup, the 'law and order' and 'rule of law' folks at DOJ gave a significantly lower % to Trump than they did with other Republicans. Really no surprise there.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/politics ... index.html

I wonder what his nickname will be?

[MDlaxfan76]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/politics ... index.html

I wonder what his nickname will be?

something cutesy

Pleading out, and sincerely expressing remorse, will work out much better than battling these sorts of charges and evidence.

They should do serious time, but I'd throw away the key for anyone not remorseful.
And they better be convincing.

[jhu72]

Yup, the 'law and order' and 'rule of law' folks at DOJ gave a significantly lower % to Trump than they did with other Republicans. Really no surprise there.

like that should be a surprise. Forum members were not the only ones in the country that saw Trump for the lying, sociopath, POS he is, prior to his election.

[MDlaxfan76]

Yup, the 'law and order' and 'rule of law' folks at DOJ gave a significantly lower % to Trump than they did with other Republicans. Really no surprise there.

like that should be a surprise. Forum members were not the only ones in the country that saw Trump for the lying, sociopath, POS he is, prior to his election.

Exactly; they also saw him for the wannabe mob boss crook he is as well. They know the type.

[old salt]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/politics ... index.html

I wonder what his nickname will be?

" convict # _ _ _ _ _ _ " -- he assaulted a police officer, a violent crime.

[Farfromgeneva]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/politics ... index.html

I wonder what his nickname will be?

“The Pipe Cleaner”?

[CU88]

I biked down to The Mall this morning, and stopped at The Capitol. I guess I am not a r patriot, as I didn't attack the building or the police; nor did I take a crap on the grounds.

[cradleandshoot]

I biked down to The Mall this morning, and stopped at The Capitol. I guess I am not a r patriot, as I didn't attack the building or the police; nor did I take a crap on the grounds.

To bad you were not riding your bike in very liberal San Francisco. You could crap wherever you felt like it and nobody would even notice.

[Farfromgeneva]

When is the last time you been to SF? Seriously because my sisters been out there 30yrs. Just another clown comment.

[Peter Brown]

When is the last time you been to SF? Seriously because my sisters been out there 30yrs. Just another clown comment.

My brother lives in SF. Good enough, or do I need more?

Anyone with even a modest amount of money now has hired private security to be their own police force, since police don’t do anything any longer. Lawlessness in SF is simply now a fact of life, with homeless and mentally ill on every block, left to do whatever they want, further, the DA treats persons of color who are suspects as deserving of sympathy, not a swift kick in the arse.

Citizens don’t even report crime because they know even if the police show up, the DA rarely charges suspects, and even then, the DA treats the victims as suspects and the suspects as victims.

Chesa Boudin the DA is the living embodiment off how Democrats, when left unchecked, because lawless socialists, exposing every American family to violence and crime.

Vote them out,

[dislaxxic]

DID PAUL GOSAR TAKE ACTIONS ON BEHALF OF DONALD TRUMP THAT CONTRIBUTED TO ASHLI BABBITT’S DEATH?

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[SCLaxAttack]

DID PAUL GOSAR TAKE ACTIONS ON BEHALF OF DONALD TRUMP THAT CONTRIBUTED TO ASHLI BABBITT’S DEATH?

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Assuming they read it, I'm waiting for a few of our posters to claim this is actually McGovern's fault because he didn't table the request and, more importantly, because he's a democrat.