Lax101 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:51 pm
Please don't compare SB to MD. For years MD got the best of the best in state kids. That has never been the case at SB. Appuzzo never considered SB whereas Cummings, Whittle, Stuckenburg etc dreamed of playing for MD since they were little. The best LI kids don't consider SB. That is a fact. That is why it is remarkable what JS does with that program. I don't think we are disagreeing very much. There is great talent everywhere - look at CN and Carney from Texas, CW from Florida, Izzy Scane from Michigan. A great recuitor finds those players. That being said LI kids bring an extra level of grit and determination when it comes to competing. Just watch the way Simpkins and Urbank battled during their 4 head to head games this year. They wanted to kill one another. Same is true of Schleicher and Tyrrell. You see it at the LI youth level, club, UA, college etc. Every coach knows it. Why do you think LI players are the first to get recruited. My friends daughters YJ team had about 18 players committed by the time the top MD club had 6. I'm not saying that was right but it just shows how college coaches view top LI talent. It takes a full team to win and players from around the country, but your odds of winning are certainly better when you have legit LI players in your starting line-up.
so much to disagree with here. yes YJ is a good program (not sure about the franchising, but that is a different conversation.)
Lax101 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:51 pm
That being said LI kids bring an extra level of grit and determination when it comes to competing.
Nope, that isn't localized to Long Island. Just not a true statement. you can pick your examples, and yes they are great, but that doesnt equate to all LI kids being super studs...Come on man...
Lax101 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:51 pm
You see it at the LI youth level, club, UA, college etc. Every coach knows it. Why do you think LI players are the first to get recruited. My friends daughters YJ team had about 18 players committed by the time the top MD club had 6. I'm not saying that was right but it just shows how college coaches view top LI talent. It takes a full team to win and players from around the country, but your odds of winning are certainly better when you have legit LI players in your starting line-up.
Wow, another generalized statement that just isnt true. YJ and Top Guns often get beat by clubs like Hero's, M&D, Capital, Skywalkers, etc. So, LI club level players are not necessarily the best. They are good and certain teams can be ranked at the top (YJ Spallina 2025) but in that specific example it is because some better non-LI clubs are HS aged only (Capital/Skywalkers). As I mentioned in my previous post, yes, there is a ease of recruiting that some coaches take focusing on LI. That didn't work well for Virginia Tech before Sung. That coach only recruited LI and didn't have grit or determination on the field, and of course, no significant wins.
Commitment numbers is again a false flag statement. We agree that LI girls get more looks than MD or PA girls, but that doesn't equate to quality of the player. It doesnt mean that the your odds of winning are better with LI players in your line up. That is silly....
My D's team, which is an OK team in D1, has 3 players out of 34 from Long Island. 2 are starters. Are you telling me that they would be significantly better if they only recruited more YJ and Top Gun players? If there were 15 LI gals, would they be a more gritty and determined team? Would they have better odds of winning?
I am sorry, but your good points devolved into LI rooting and chest pounding. I will agree that your comments about grit and determination are extremely important, but Long Island doesn't have the monopoly on those character/physical traits.