January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?

[MDlaxfan76]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics ... index.html

America’s finest.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics ... index.html
Robertson and Fracker, two officers with Virginia's Rocky Mount Police Department, were charged with entering restricted grounds and violent entry or disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, according to federal court documents released January 13.
Robertson and Fracker -- off-duty at the time -- posed for a photo in front of a statue of a Revolutionary War general in the Capitol during the riot, with one making an obscene hand sign, according to the federal complaint.
The two appear to have been the first law enforcement officers charged with criminal violations related to the riots.
They shared the photo with colleagues, and Robertson later posted it online, court records say.
The photo was taken after the Capitol was in lockdown, court documents read.
Prosecutors also found a social media post from Robertson that says he was "f***ing PROUD" of the photo, according to the complaint.
The complaint says that Fracker, in his own social media post, acknowledged the photo of him inside the Capitol and wrote "sorry I hate freedom?"
Robertson told CNN affiliate WSET that Capitol Police officers gave them water and asked them to stay within roped areas.
"There was absolutely no indication that we were anything but welcome to check out certain places," Robertson told WSET. "We did not participate in any violence or property damage."
The complaint cites reports that Robertson claimed he had been escorted "in" by Capitol police and that he made social posts that he had "attacked the government."

So the point of this excerpt is...you credit their invention that they were simply invitees of the Capitol Police having a couple of nifty photo ops? Your wife shouldn't let you go out unsupervised man. Jeez.

Calm down. Breath deep. Providing the info CNN reported in an earlier article which is omitted in that link.
Cover your eyes if into hurts you. You can also read about others charged.

Hah! I'm plenty calm. That's another one of your cute bits: treat everyone like they are hysterical. The only thing that hurts is guys like you supporting criminals like Flynn and positing a different "reasonable" explanation for a bunch of criminals storming the Capitol and injuring Capitol cops.

Too bad you don't want to know more information before passing judgement. The legal system you work in does not function that way.
Did Robertson "storm the Capitol" ? Did Robertson hurt any cops ? Did MDLF76's brother-in-law ?

I don't need more information...exactly because I trust that the adversarial process, and the evaluation of the evidence will result in a proper disposition. Right now, the criminal defendants are soft-peddling their actions -- "Jeez, we were invited in, and took some fun pictures; what's the harm...." At this point, I find those little anecdotes to be less than credible.

Which is exactly why I asked Salty for his 'take' on this when he first posted their BS claims they were 'ushered in'. I didn't know what his take would be, so I asked.

It's obvious these a-holes deserve to be in jail, the only question to me is for how long. Obviously there's go to be a trial (or plea), which will determine the magnitude of the punishment, the extent of their crimes, but it really should be a no-brainer when I ask whether Salty's buying their BS.

That's the problem with this BS; sometimes things should be simple. But some folks always want to give the benefit of the doubt to right wing, white idiots and nut jobs . But not anyone else.

[seacoaster]

In my business, this is called a bad witness.

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/stat ... 5246186496

[Kismet]

In my business, this is called a bad witness.

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[PizzaSnake]

Speaking of bad faith, what's up with Mo's rally attire?

https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-law ... lly-2021-7

"I was warned on Monday" — January 4 — "that there might be risks associated with the next few days," Brooks told the Slate politics writer Jim Newell.

"And as a consequence of those warnings, I did not go to my condo," he added. "Instead, I slept on the floor of my office. And when I gave my speech at the Ellipse, I was wearing body armor.

"That's why I was wearing that nice little windbreaker. To cover up the body armor."

So, who exactly warned him? His co-conspirators?

[seacoaster]

Speaking of bad faith, what's up with Mo's rally attire?

https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-law ... lly-2021-7

"I was warned on Monday" — January 4 — "that there might be risks associated with the next few days," Brooks told the Slate politics writer Jim Newell.

"And as a consequence of those warnings, I did not go to my condo," he added. "Instead, I slept on the floor of my office. And when I gave my speech at the Ellipse, I was wearing body armor.

"That's why I was wearing that nice little windbreaker. To cover up the body armor."

So, who exactly warned him? His co-conspirators?

Another bad witness.

[seacoaster]

In my business, this is called a bad witness.

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/stat ... 5246186496

Exactly.

[PizzaSnake]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics ... index.html

America’s finest.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics ... index.html
Robertson and Fracker, two officers with Virginia's Rocky Mount Police Department, were charged with entering restricted grounds and violent entry or disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, according to federal court documents released January 13.
Robertson and Fracker -- off-duty at the time -- posed for a photo in front of a statue of a Revolutionary War general in the Capitol during the riot, with one making an obscene hand sign, according to the federal complaint.
The two appear to have been the first law enforcement officers charged with criminal violations related to the riots.
They shared the photo with colleagues, and Robertson later posted it online, court records say.
The photo was taken after the Capitol was in lockdown, court documents read.
Prosecutors also found a social media post from Robertson that says he was "f***ing PROUD" of the photo, according to the complaint.
The complaint says that Fracker, in his own social media post, acknowledged the photo of him inside the Capitol and wrote "sorry I hate freedom?"
Robertson told CNN affiliate WSET that Capitol Police officers gave them water and asked them to stay within roped areas.
"There was absolutely no indication that we were anything but welcome to check out certain places," Robertson told WSET. "We did not participate in any violence or property damage."
The complaint cites reports that Robertson claimed he had been escorted "in" by Capitol police and that he made social posts that he had "attacked the government."

So the point of this excerpt is...you credit their invention that they were simply invitees of the Capitol Police having a couple of nifty photo ops? Your wife shouldn't let you go out unsupervised man. Jeez.

Calm down. Breath deep. Providing the info CNN reported in an earlier article which is omitted in that link.
Cover your eyes if into hurts you. You can also read about others charged.

Hah! I'm plenty calm. That's another one of your cute bits: treat everyone like they are hysterical. The only thing that hurts is guys like you supporting criminals like Flynn and positing a different "reasonable" explanation for a bunch of criminals storming the Capitol and injuring Capitol cops.

Too bad you don't want to know more information before passing judgement. The legal system you work in does not function that way.
Did Robertson "storm the Capitol" ? Did Robertson hurt any cops ? Did MDLF76's brother-in-law ?

"The legal system you work in does not function that way."

Really? Familiar with the Federal rules of evidence?

Here's a helpful link...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre

[old salt]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics ... index.html

America’s finest.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics ... index.html
Robertson and Fracker, two officers with Virginia's Rocky Mount Police Department, were charged with entering restricted grounds and violent entry or disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, according to federal court documents released January 13.
Robertson and Fracker -- off-duty at the time -- posed for a photo in front of a statue of a Revolutionary War general in the Capitol during the riot, with one making an obscene hand sign, according to the federal complaint.
The two appear to have been the first law enforcement officers charged with criminal violations related to the riots.
They shared the photo with colleagues, and Robertson later posted it online, court records say.
The photo was taken after the Capitol was in lockdown, court documents read.
Prosecutors also found a social media post from Robertson that says he was "f***ing PROUD" of the photo, according to the complaint.
The complaint says that Fracker, in his own social media post, acknowledged the photo of him inside the Capitol and wrote "sorry I hate freedom?"
Robertson told CNN affiliate WSET that Capitol Police officers gave them water and asked them to stay within roped areas.
"There was absolutely no indication that we were anything but welcome to check out certain places," Robertson told WSET. "We did not participate in any violence or property damage."
The complaint cites reports that Robertson claimed he had been escorted "in" by Capitol police and that he made social posts that he had "attacked the government."

So the point of this excerpt is...you credit their invention that they were simply invitees of the Capitol Police having a couple of nifty photo ops? Your wife shouldn't let you go out unsupervised man. Jeez.

Calm down. Breath deep. Providing the info CNN reported in an earlier article which is omitted in that link.
Cover your eyes if into hurts you. You can also read about others charged.

Hah! I'm plenty calm. That's another one of your cute bits: treat everyone like they are hysterical. The only thing that hurts is guys like you supporting criminals like Flynn and positing a different "reasonable" explanation for a bunch of criminals storming the Capitol and injuring Capitol cops.

Too bad you don't want to know more information before passing judgement. The legal system you work in does not function that way.
Did Robertson "storm the Capitol" ? Did Robertson hurt any cops ? Did MDLF76's brother-in-law ?

"The legal system you work in does not function that way."

Really? Familiar with the Federal rules of evidence?

Here's a helpful link...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre

You are making my point. I'd like to see the evidence before joining the lynch mob.

[MDlaxfan76]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics ... index.html

America’s finest.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics ... index.html
Robertson and Fracker, two officers with Virginia's Rocky Mount Police Department, were charged with entering restricted grounds and violent entry or disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, according to federal court documents released January 13.
Robertson and Fracker -- off-duty at the time -- posed for a photo in front of a statue of a Revolutionary War general in the Capitol during the riot, with one making an obscene hand sign, according to the federal complaint.
The two appear to have been the first law enforcement officers charged with criminal violations related to the riots.
They shared the photo with colleagues, and Robertson later posted it online, court records say.
The photo was taken after the Capitol was in lockdown, court documents read.
Prosecutors also found a social media post from Robertson that says he was "f***ing PROUD" of the photo, according to the complaint.
The complaint says that Fracker, in his own social media post, acknowledged the photo of him inside the Capitol and wrote "sorry I hate freedom?"
Robertson told CNN affiliate WSET that Capitol Police officers gave them water and asked them to stay within roped areas.
"There was absolutely no indication that we were anything but welcome to check out certain places," Robertson told WSET. "We did not participate in any violence or property damage."
The complaint cites reports that Robertson claimed he had been escorted "in" by Capitol police and that he made social posts that he had "attacked the government."

So the point of this excerpt is...you credit their invention that they were simply invitees of the Capitol Police having a couple of nifty photo ops? Your wife shouldn't let you go out unsupervised man. Jeez.

Calm down. Breath deep. Providing the info CNN reported in an earlier article which is omitted in that link.
Cover your eyes if into hurts you. You can also read about others charged.

Hah! I'm plenty calm. That's another one of your cute bits: treat everyone like they are hysterical. The only thing that hurts is guys like you supporting criminals like Flynn and positing a different "reasonable" explanation for a bunch of criminals storming the Capitol and injuring Capitol cops.

Too bad you don't want to know more information before passing judgement. The legal system you work in does not function that way.
Did Robertson "storm the Capitol" ? Did Robertson hurt any cops ? Did MDLF76's brother-in-law ?

"The legal system you work in does not function that way."

Really? Familiar with the Federal rules of evidence?

Here's a helpful link...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre

You are making my point. I'd like to see the evidence before joining the lynch mob.

My brother-in-law (according to him) never went through any broken doors or windows, never entered the Capitol building, knew that would be illegal, and when he learned what had gone down (claims he didn't know at the time despite being on the Capitol steps) he was horrified that people violently fought the police, breached the Capitol, threatened those inside. And he didn't brag about it on social media.

That said, he did enter the grounds and IMO is therefore guilty of criminal trespass. Still thinks the election was rigged.

Not sure how much I believe of his story, could he really have been so naive? Maybe.

I'm all aboard on differential penalties...Which means that these guys definitely deserve punishment, the only question, Salty, is how much. IMO, definitely felony level.

[PizzaSnake]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics ... index.html

America’s finest.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics ... index.html
Robertson and Fracker, two officers with Virginia's Rocky Mount Police Department, were charged with entering restricted grounds and violent entry or disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, according to federal court documents released January 13.
Robertson and Fracker -- off-duty at the time -- posed for a photo in front of a statue of a Revolutionary War general in the Capitol during the riot, with one making an obscene hand sign, according to the federal complaint.
The two appear to have been the first law enforcement officers charged with criminal violations related to the riots.
They shared the photo with colleagues, and Robertson later posted it online, court records say.
The photo was taken after the Capitol was in lockdown, court documents read.
Prosecutors also found a social media post from Robertson that says he was "f***ing PROUD" of the photo, according to the complaint.
The complaint says that Fracker, in his own social media post, acknowledged the photo of him inside the Capitol and wrote "sorry I hate freedom?"
Robertson told CNN affiliate WSET that Capitol Police officers gave them water and asked them to stay within roped areas.
"There was absolutely no indication that we were anything but welcome to check out certain places," Robertson told WSET. "We did not participate in any violence or property damage."
The complaint cites reports that Robertson claimed he had been escorted "in" by Capitol police and that he made social posts that he had "attacked the government."

So the point of this excerpt is...you credit their invention that they were simply invitees of the Capitol Police having a couple of nifty photo ops? Your wife shouldn't let you go out unsupervised man. Jeez.

Calm down. Breath deep. Providing the info CNN reported in an earlier article which is omitted in that link.
Cover your eyes if into hurts you. You can also read about others charged.

Hah! I'm plenty calm. That's another one of your cute bits: treat everyone like they are hysterical. The only thing that hurts is guys like you supporting criminals like Flynn and positing a different "reasonable" explanation for a bunch of criminals storming the Capitol and injuring Capitol cops.

Too bad you don't want to know more information before passing judgement. The legal system you work in does not function that way.
Did Robertson "storm the Capitol" ? Did Robertson hurt any cops ? Did MDLF76's brother-in-law ?

"The legal system you work in does not function that way."

Really? Familiar with the Federal rules of evidence?

Here's a helpful link...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre

You are making my point. I'd like to see the evidence before joining the lynch mob.

No, you are making mine. First read the rules of evidence and get an idea about the barriers to actually getting things recognized as evidence by the court. Doesn't mean they don't exist or aren't probative, just that they often cannot be entered into evidence.

Having said that, what is recognized by the court is often an incomplete set of facts. You might "know more information" as you say above, but that isn't "how the legal system functions" to paraphrase your comment above.

I saw, via live reporting, what those people did. Now, unless you think that is all a vast conspiracy and that those were actors or anitifa, or some such other delusional BS, it is clear on the face of it what they are guilty of. However, that is not how the system works. How it works is whether or not the prosecutor can amass enough evidence to get one of two things to occur: the defendant "folds" and accepts a plea, or the jury is convinced "beyond a reasonable doubt" (a very high standard.

I said it before: I think you feign this obtuseness you demonstrate. If not, heaven help us if there are more like you in the military.

P.S. Unless you are on the jury you will never "see" the evidence.

[old salt]

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I saw, via live reporting, what those people did. Now, unless you think that is all a vast conspiracy and that those were actors or anitifa, or some such other delusional BS, it is clear on the face of it what they are guilty of.

I said it before: I think you feign this obtuseness you demonstrate. If not, heaven help us if there are more like you in the military.

Did you see those 2 in a video ? What were they doing ?
Take heart. There's evidence that [Ready, Fire, Aim] is alive & well in the military. We need more JAG officers like LT DeSantis.

[old salt]

My brother-in-law (according to him) never went through any broken doors or windows, never entered the Capitol building, knew that would be illegal, and when he learned what had gone down (claims he didn't know at the time despite being on the Capitol steps) he was horrified that people violently fought the police, breached the Capitol, threatened those inside. And he didn't brag about it on social media.

That said, he did enter the grounds and IMO is therefore guilty of criminal trespass. Still thinks the election was rigged.

Not sure how much I believe of his story, could he really have been so naive? Maybe.

I'm all aboard on differential penalties...Which means that these guys definitely deserve punishment, the only question, Salty, is how much. IMO, definitely felony level.

Indiana Grandma got off with probation.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-ca ... 2ba3fa57d6

Ubiquitous FloridaMan got 8 mos.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/1 ... nce-500149
While the Capitol cases are now spread among 20 judges who retain broad discretion in sentencing, federal law instructs them “to avoid unwarranted sentence disparities among defendants with similar records who have been found guilty of similar conduct.

”Defense lawyers have told POLITICO that prosecutors appear to be distinguishing between defendants who went into the Senate chamber and those who paraded through the nearby hallways. Prosecutors have insisted that those who went onto the Senate floor plead guilty to a felony if they wish to cut a deal, while the feds are accepting misdemeanor guilty pleas from others who did not.

The diff = FloridaMan entered the Senate chamber, Indy MAGAGranny stayed in the hallway,
according to msnbc legal talking heads who said a fed sentencing consensus is being established.

How much jail time should your brother-in-law get for still thinking the election was rigged ?
He doesn't need to post it on social media. He can just tell you.

[PizzaSnake]

{edited down to the personal attack to save page space}

I saw, via live reporting, what those people did. Now, unless you think that is all a vast conspiracy and that those were actors or anitifa, or some such other delusional BS, it is clear on the face of it what they are guilty of.

I said it before: I think you feign this obtuseness you demonstrate. If not, heaven help us if there are more like you in the military.

Did you see those 2 in a video ? What were they doing ?
Take heart. There's evidence that [Ready, Fire, Aim] is alive & well in the military. We need more JAG officers like LT DeSantis.

Personal attack? So you are or are not feigning the demonstrated obtuseness?

[old salt]

{edited down to the personal attack to save page space}

I saw, via live reporting, what those people did. Now, unless you think that is all a vast conspiracy and that those were actors or anitifa, or some such other delusional BS, it is clear on the face of it what they are guilty of.

I said it before: I think you feign this obtuseness you demonstrate. If not, heaven help us if there are more like you in the military.

Did you see those 2 in a video ? What were they doing ?
Take heart. There's evidence that [Ready, Fire, Aim] is alive & well in the military. We need more JAG officers like LT DeSantis.

Personal attack? So you are or are not feigning the demonstrated obtuseness?

What feigned obtuseness ? I posted what I've found on other Jan 6th sentences. I'm attempting to reconcile the Jan 6th felony charge for Robertson with the misdemeanor charge for the Indy MAGAGrandma. What did Robertson do to obstruct that Granny did not ? Did Granny get downgraded to a misdemeanor because she copped a plea ? That didn't work for FLman. There's a seeming disparity, unless there's more evidence on Robertson that's not being reported, thus my quest to learn more. Is he being charged with felony obstruction because of his lack of remorse or because of what he actually did on Jan 6th ? Those Jan 6th charges were filed before the subsequent gun charges, which may well warrant incarceration, or not, based on the evidence & a trial.

[Kismet]

{edited down to the personal attack to save page space}

I saw, via live reporting, what those people did. Now, unless you think that is all a vast conspiracy and that those were actors or anitifa, or some such other delusional BS, it is clear on the face of it what they are guilty of.

I said it before: I think you feign this obtuseness you demonstrate. If not, heaven help us if there are more like you in the military.

Did you see those 2 in a video ? What were they doing ?
Take heart. There's evidence that [Ready, Fire, Aim] is alive & well in the military. We need more JAG officers like LT DeSantis.

Personal attack? So you are or are not feigning the demonstrated obtuseness?

What feigned obtuseness ? I posted what I've found on other Jan 6th sentences. I'm attempting to reconcile the Jan 6th felony charge for Robertson with the misdemeanor charge for the Indy MAGAGrandma. What did Robertson do to obstruct that Granny did not ? Did Granny get downgraded to a misdemeanor because she copped a plea ? That didn't work for FLman. There's a seeming disparity, unless there's more evidence on Robertson that's not being reported, thus my quest to learn more. Is he being charged with felony obstruction because of his lack of remorse or because of what he actually did on Jan 6th ? Those Jan 6th charges were filed before the subsequent gun charges, which may well warrant incarceration, or not, based on the evidence & a trial.

Perhaps ask Robertson's lawyers as they are entitled to see all of the prosecutors' evidence before trial. The fact that they don't seem to be making the same case as some of the others might inform all of us that your suspicions might not be the case. Seems to me that given all of his shenanigans with regard to violating terms of bail appear to validate the assertions made by prosecutors and sustained by the judge.

If you really want to know, volunteer to be in the jury pool - after all you're retired with some free time aren't you.

[seacoaster]

Jordan's "answer" to the question, "Did you speak to the [Moron] on January 6" is even better transcribed:

https://twitter.com/bheater/status/1420 ... 00/photo/1

And you guys pick on President Biden's speech impediment.

[MDlaxfan76]

My brother-in-law (according to him) never went through any broken doors or windows, never entered the Capitol building, knew that would be illegal, and when he learned what had gone down (claims he didn't know at the time despite being on the Capitol steps) he was horrified that people violently fought the police, breached the Capitol, threatened those inside. And he didn't brag about it on social media.

That said, he did enter the grounds and IMO is therefore guilty of criminal trespass. Still thinks the election was rigged.

Not sure how much I believe of his story, could he really have been so naive? Maybe.

I'm all aboard on differential penalties...Which means that these guys definitely deserve punishment, the only question, Salty, is how much. IMO, definitely felony level.

Indiana Grandma got off with probation.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-ca ... 2ba3fa57d6

Ubiquitous FloridaMan got 8 mos.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/1 ... nce-500149
While the Capitol cases are now spread among 20 judges who retain broad discretion in sentencing, federal law instructs them “to avoid unwarranted sentence disparities among defendants with similar records who have been found guilty of similar conduct.

”Defense lawyers have told POLITICO that prosecutors appear to be distinguishing between defendants who went into the Senate chamber and those who paraded through the nearby hallways. Prosecutors have insisted that those who went onto the Senate floor plead guilty to a felony if they wish to cut a deal, while the feds are accepting misdemeanor guilty pleas from others who did not.

The diff = FloridaMan entered the Senate chamber, Indy MAGAGranny stayed in the hallway,
according to msnbc legal talking heads who said a fed sentencing consensus is being established.

How much jail time should your brother-in-law get for still thinking the election was rigged ?
He doesn't need to post it on social media. He can just tell you.

So, minimum 8 months?

re brother-in-law, for not going into the Capitol, not being violent? Just trespass on Capitol grounds?
Misdemeanor and fine...which, however, would be devastating to his work. So I'm hoping he's one of the thousands such who is never charged.

If, however, he'd breached the building and/or been violent, or both, felony and time. Reduced time if believably remorseful and plea.

[youthathletics]

My brother-in-law (according to him) never went through any broken doors or windows, never entered the Capitol building, knew that would be illegal, and when he learned what had gone down (claims he didn't know at the time despite being on the Capitol steps) he was horrified that people violently fought the police, breached the Capitol, threatened those inside. And he didn't brag about it on social media.

That said, he did enter the grounds and IMO is therefore guilty of criminal trespass. Still thinks the election was rigged.

Not sure how much I believe of his story, could he really have been so naive? Maybe.

I'm all aboard on differential penalties...Which means that these guys definitely deserve punishment, the only question, Salty, is how much. IMO, definitely felony level.

Did you report him to the authorities, since you question his story?

[seacoaster]

My brother-in-law (according to him) never went through any broken doors or windows, never entered the Capitol building, knew that would be illegal, and when he learned what had gone down (claims he didn't know at the time despite being on the Capitol steps) he was horrified that people violently fought the police, breached the Capitol, threatened those inside. And he didn't brag about it on social media.

That said, he did enter the grounds and IMO is therefore guilty of criminal trespass. Still thinks the election was rigged.

Not sure how much I believe of his story, could he really have been so naive? Maybe.

I'm all aboard on differential penalties...Which means that these guys definitely deserve punishment, the only question, Salty, is how much. IMO, definitely felony level.

Did you report him to the authorities, since you question his story?

I did. I dropped a dime on MD's B-in-L as a service to him and his spouse. Pro bono. I'm that kind of guy.

[youthathletics]

My brother-in-law (according to him) never went through any broken doors or windows, never entered the Capitol building, knew that would be illegal, and when he learned what had gone down (claims he didn't know at the time despite being on the Capitol steps) he was horrified that people violently fought the police, breached the Capitol, threatened those inside. And he didn't brag about it on social media.

That said, he did enter the grounds and IMO is therefore guilty of criminal trespass. Still thinks the election was rigged.

Not sure how much I believe of his story, could he really have been so naive? Maybe.

I'm all aboard on differential penalties...Which means that these guys definitely deserve punishment, the only question, Salty, is how much. IMO, definitely felony level.

Did you report him to the authorities, since you question his story?

I did. I dropped a dime on MD's B-in-L as a service to him and his spouse. Pro bono. I'm that kind of guy.

You hitting the malbec already?